NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys day one wrap-up
Whew, what a day. Has a NFL draft ever gone by so quickly? I really like the new streamlined format; it makes the action happen much faster and keeps you glued to the TV.
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good analysis
i obviously disagree with you on Bennett because he was probably BPA, there was no WR to take, S would have been a severe reach at that point….i think that was a smart, logical, solid and a very Antonio Gatesian pick…
just got ownaged
by Longhorn on Apr 26, 2008 11:03 PM CDT 0 recs
I don't know
I’m warming up to Bennett, but I think Dan Connor was the BPA. And all I keep hearing about the 3-4 is how you can never have enough LBs.
Now, with Bennett, I think that puts an end to any FB speculation. Bennett will probably play a hybrid TE/FB role, and I have enough faith in Garrett to believe that it could be a great addition to our offense.
by accidental innuendo on
Apr 27, 2008 12:14 AM CDT
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No complaints here..
blog ran smooth all day for me – when I wasn’t outside doing yardwork, that is.
Excellent job keeping everyone informed as usual. Looking forward to seeing the new Jones boy take it to the house a few times next season!
by Pete222 on Apr 26, 2008 11:03 PM CDT 0 recs
sorry i missed it
had to be out all day so I missed the live action, but it sounds like a good day. A good complementary back and a solid corner, both who will be able to contribute immediately—maybe they’ll both get a ring on their rookie years!
by scottmaui on Apr 26, 2008 11:06 PM CDT 0 recs
great draft
I love the draft plain and simple. We got the RB we targeted, we got a CB who I just knew wasn’t going to be there and we got TE who can split wide and catch TD’s in the red zone.. 6’6” with a 39 inch vert. Man I love it..
We all knew how much Tony Loves to throw to the TE, let the gates comparsions begin..
I wanted a Wr in the second, but on second thought, if you draft wr in the 2nd round you are nearly pressed to what he can do. I think we really need to see what our younger guys can do 1st before we draft a WR high. I know they didn’t perform last year, but we all knew WR is the toughest position to adapt too..
I would like for us to bring in Z from Notre dame to play safety.
I understand the Mendhall and Jones, debate, but for our team Jones is a better compliment..
I say we once this all plays out we will be happy with Felix.
by Wmillion on Apr 26, 2008 11:24 PM CDT 0 recs
My brother is an aggie
So he rates Bennett pretty highly. Watching the A&M games this year, I think that Coach Fran really underutilized Bennett in the offense, so you really can’t tell what kind of player he is just by the numbers. A&M used him more as a run blocker than a true tight end, but I think that he’ll be a threat that teams can’t ignore.
Not a bad draft for us this year so far, if I were grading it I’d give it a high B+ or a low A-.
by sprprsnmn on Apr 26, 2008 11:24 PM CDT 0 recs
good info
sprprsnmn
great post the more i hear the about Bennett, the more i am gettin exicted. You can run a lot of plays out of 2 TE sets, especially with being one being a Pro-Bowler and other being a 6’6” athlete…
by Wmillion on Apr 26, 2008 11:34 PM CDT 0 recs
BTB is amazing.
I didn’t know how good I had it until it was down for a couple days. I’ve been reading everyday since about halfway through the regular season and posting regularly for the past couple months. I think the site is run beautifly and the people on here are tight too. I might not agree with everyone, but the diverse opinions make it fun. I’ve always been a HUGE Cowboys fan, but I feel more connected than ever with BTB. Good job guys. Especially Grizz, Brandon and Tuna.
Bourn to Run!
by jsams on Apr 26, 2008 11:42 PM CDT 0 recs
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The open threads kinda lagged when the comments passed the 100+ mark. Of course, I also had a FoxSports page open that had live draft updates, so that likely contributed to the lagging as well. But it’s a minor complaint, since I love how the page automatically refreshes after every new comment. I hated having to hit the refresh button all the time on game day threads with the old site.
Back to the draft picks. 100% on board with the first two. I really didn’t give the TE position much thought and I know nothing about Bennett other than what the other guys here have posted, but I’ll give the pick (and him) the benefit of the doubt. Maybe we’ll see some 2 TE sets down the road.
All in all, an excellent day. I feel we got exactly what we needed to fill two glaring holes. And assuming Pacman is reinstated and flies straight, that could make our defense that much closer to lethal.
You can't have Thunder without Lightning.
by Nelson... on Apr 26, 2008 11:49 PM CDT 0 recs
The more I think about it
the more excited I am about Bennett’s potential and consequently us taking him there.
I was hoping for a WR with that pick but once I got past the stigma of the TE label I started to like the idea of a guy that a few inches taller and 35 pounds heavier than a M. Kelley and yet is just as fast when you look at 40 times and has displayed great playmaking ability as told by those who have seem him play..
Plus, Wade seemed drive home that Bennett is not seen as a backup as TMac mentions on the dmn blog http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/.
We all know its about way more than just 40 times and athletic ability but if it works out he could be even better weapon for the offense than any WR we would have taken at that spot.
I know it’s a bunch of “If’’s” but I guess that’s a lot of what this time of year is all about.
I’m pretty please with day one.
by ajspop on Apr 26, 2008 11:57 PM CDT 0 recs
great point here guys ...thanks ajspop
he could be even better weapon for the offense than any WR we would have taken at that spot.
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
by BoyzRback on
Apr 27, 2008 7:14 AM CDT
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I haven't anyone suggest this
But I’ve heard that Bennett is a good run blocker and quite fast… Could he be converted to a full-back?
by hiafex on Apr 26, 2008 11:57 PM CDT 0 recs
If anything
He would be a HB. He’s so tall and has a high center of gravity, I’m not sure he could ever get low enough to clear out linebackers.
by GhettoBear04 on
Apr 27, 2008 12:09 AM CDT
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As I pointed out above
It could be a hybrid TE/FB position, but Cricket will probably remain our bona fide FB.
by accidental innuendo on
Apr 27, 2008 12:15 AM CDT
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Don't Understand Yall's Issues with Bennett...
He was terribly under-utilized and the A&M coaching staff under Fran was awful…
He’s big, physical, extremely athletic. Huge hands. Moves really well… He’s going to be a serious weapon in the red zone and across the middle moving the chains… He’s already an above-average blocker, and he’s got the potential to be really strong in that area of the game.
None of the receivers other than Bubba Caldwell are worth a damn at this point. And I really think the upside with Bennett outweighs what you’d get with Caldwell…
Some of you really would rather have had Manningham, Doucet, or Bubba? Yikes…
I probably would have taken Mendenhall at 22, but Felix does complement Barber extremely well, and as long as Barber is resigned and brought back, I really don’t see this pick coming back to haunt us, so no big deal…
Jenkins is probably the most ready of all the CBs to step in now and play immediately, so that’s a great value pick at 25…
Wanna see another DB, NT, and OL on Day 2… Only receiver left I like at all is Bubba Caldwell. So if he drops to 91 or wherever we’re at, I’d give him a long look…
by N41D on Apr 27, 2008 12:15 AM CDT 0 recs
There's some pretty cool stuff up
At dallascowboys.com, but the war room call to Bennett is by far the best. The transcript would looks something like this:
Jerry: Hey Martellus?
Martellus: Hey, Jerry Jones!?
Background: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
His family just freaks out and Jerry and Wade just sit back and enjoy. I loved it.
by dieselT8 on Apr 27, 2008 12:16 AM CDT 0 recs
So hilarious
I just watched this too. So awesome. You gotta love a guy that’s THAT excited to be a Cowboy.
by grapejoos on
Apr 27, 2008 5:53 PM CDT
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He is no way going to be able to really be a H back due to his height. You have to be quicker and more agile to block speedy LBs and he is just not going to be able to do it.
Sorry but to be honest I think Jerrah screwed this one up. there is NO way he is going to get any more passes thrown his way then Fasano did. Even with Crayton as the other WR. Romo is going to go to TO first then Witten or Crayton- the other TE will ALWAYS be at best 4th except for designed plays. Wade can talk all he wants but there is not going to be a change to the Offense= after all why would you mess with one that broke records?
by burmafrd1944 on Apr 27, 2008 12:17 AM CDT 0 recs
So then...
you agree there is no point in drafting a WR with the 2nd round pick. Because there’s no way a rookie WR beats out Crayton, especially not from this class.
by GhettoBear04 on
Apr 27, 2008 12:33 AM CDT
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I agree with that, didn't really want WR either
But Dallas could have taken DaJuan Morgan, the 2nd to 3rd highest rated safety on every board I’ve seen.
Hope Bennett turns out to be another Tony Gonzales, but I’m not holding my breath.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on
Apr 27, 2008 1:07 AM CDT
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marcellus - comedian, blocker, helmet-knocker-offer
sorry if someone posted this earlier, but this video of Tellus and Joey Thomas is pretty interesting, and funny. I can see why he’s “well-quoted”.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TqFsKVEYOlc
Of all things given the timing now, he starts off responding to a question about being a team leader by saying “I’m a gangster, I’m real thug-like, I carry a gun around, so if anybody gives me any problems I’m shootin’.” What? Great. But it turns out he has a very dry sense of humor that cracked me up several times. He’s being interviewed because he’s a team leader. So along with his freakish athleticism, we have a leader here.
And he talks about not being a pass target because of the run offense, but developing as a blocker instead. It seems like this might end up making a more well-rounded player, because he has the frame and athleticism to naturally be a great target, but he’s been in a system that has developed the blocking aspect of his game. he may also turn out to be somewhat of a sleeper as an offensive weapon, and thus a great value, just because he hasn’t had a chance to really show it.
and as for blocking, check out the last play of this highlight reel (watch rest for great catches and yards after), where he just crushes the poor guy he’s blocking:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5P0ljixzaGY
and for YAC, the second to last play is a fun one. he runs around one guy, through the second, and the knocks the helmet off a third. there’s another (though tiny) angle here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8AAgF6i9ukE
reading about him here at btb and then seeing the way he moves in these clips, I am exciting that he could be a real serious weapon and playmaker.
(by the way, just heard ESPN say something about F. Jones in the system with MB3 being an “impact offensive player in his rookie year.” sounds good to me.)
by scottmaui on Apr 27, 2008 1:15 AM CDT 0 recs
John Clayton gave Cowboys Day 1 picks a thumbs up
Beside KC, and Balt (if you like Joe Flacco), Miami, and Pittsburgh, Dallas is also listed as a Day 1 winner. I would rank us second only to KC but what do I know.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Apr 27, 2008 1:29 AM CDT 0 recs
Match up the back up RB
in week 14th. Rashard Mendenhall Vs. Felix Jones.
I agree with Grizz. I would have taken Mendenhall but I understand the Jones pick.
by coolaid on Apr 27, 2008 1:50 AM CDT 0 recs
improving
it occurs to me that the boys have improved at several positions so far this off-season, and diminished at none. Zach Thomas is a good improvement over Ayodele. Adam Jones (assuming he plays) and Jenkins are a huge upgrade from Nate Jones and Jacques Reeves. Felix is likely a big boost over Julius. And Bennett has a strong potential to be a bigger contributor than Fasano. All the other positions are the same.
(Did anyone notice that we replaced two Joneses with other Joneses in the same positions?)
Seems like Jerry is doing a good job to me! We had one of the top 5 teams in the league last year, and of course only time will tell, but because of his trades and picks it seems likely that we’ll be significantly stronger in several important areas, and weaker in none. I’m liking it.
There is the risk/reward thing with Pacman. It is a risk. But it seems a very big upside if it does work out with a relatively small downside if it doesn’t. (And as an aside, along with the pure football business of it in hopefully getting a great corner, it also happens to feed Jerry’s penchant for being in the news.)
by scottmaui on Apr 27, 2008 2:27 AM CDT 0 recs
I still
don’t like the idea of Crayton being our 2nd receiver…
And the secret sources in Cincinnati get the last laugh....
by miles on
Apr 27, 2008 2:30 AM CDT
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that is one area we could use improvement still
for sure, but we had one of the most explosive passing games last year with the same receivers, and with how this offense works, Jones catching out of the backfield and Bennett in two tight end sets or split out in the slot complements and takes some pressure off the receiving corps. it terms of value, GhettoBear04 made a good point in the last thread that Bennett may provide more value to the passing game than any receiver available at that point. I think I agree.
All but the best receivers take time to develop to even second receiver capacity, and even if we drafted a receiver this year, I doubt any of them could have replaced crayton anyway. the only way he isn’t the second receiver is a) Glenn is able to play another season, or b) we make a trade for a veteran.
Hurd, Austin and Stanback all have some decent potential, too, and are as likely to make an immediate impact as a rookie wr.
as far as Glenn coming back and playing at a high level, I’m not counting on it, but jerry is talking like he’s planning on it, and he knows more than we do. it is possible.
by scottmaui on
Apr 27, 2008 5:07 AM CDT
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(Did anyone notice that we replaced two Joneses with other Joneses in the same positions?)
Yes :D
You can't have Thunder without Lightning.
by Nelson... on
Apr 27, 2008 7:59 AM CDT
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the one Jones that needed to be replaced, but wasn't
that would be JERRY!!!!
by Deke on
Apr 27, 2008 8:02 AM CDT
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ANOTHER Big Miss at RB
I felt a sickening feeling as JJ passed up Steven Jackson ultimately for Julius Jones. And I had that exact same feeling today when he passed Mendenhall for Felix Jones. All this garbage about Jones being a better ‘complement’ to Barber makes me even sicker. Every player in the NFL is one play away from the end of his career. You take the best player available at the position you’re targeting… PERIOD! Mendenhall is head and shoulders above Jones (literally and figuratively). Jerry was locked in on Jones and didn’t adjust when a superior running back fell in his lap. I can’t believe all the garbage in the comments about Jones being the right pick. Jones certainly LOOKED like the right pick at 22 coming into the draft, but when Mendenhall fell, Mendenhall became the right pick.
Jones over Mendenhall? Horrible. Jenkins? Great move up. Bennett. WHO? Overall, C- grade for the Cowboys. Two more wasted 1st and 2nd round picks in the JJ tenure (a la Spears, Carp, and Julius Jones).
My first post in months. And I’m pissed.
Ol Hickory
by ol hickory on Apr 27, 2008 3:21 AM CDT 0 recs
short-term vs. long-term?
seem folks are pretty split and think it is one of the best picks or one of the biggest mistakes.
for me it seems like a short-term vs. long-term perspective.
Jones was probably the better short-term pick, but Mendenhall may have been the better long-term pick.
But I think Dennis Dillon says it well:
There’s a common denominator there. The Cowboys no longer are in rebuilding mode; they clearly are a team that could - no, make that should - contend for the Super Bowl next season. So they went for players who can make immediate contributions.
If winning the Superbowl nexd year is the goal, I think Jones is probably the better pick.
by scottmaui on
Apr 27, 2008 5:15 AM CDT
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I cant follow that logic
I get the fact that its good to draft a player in the first two rounds that can help you win now, but when there’s a running back on the board that is rated as one of the top three coming out left on the board, a guy that can carry the load, a lead type back and could be on the field 80% of the time, where is the logic that a complementory back is the better pick, a guy that would be on the fielld 20% of the time, Jerry said as much that Jones isn’t a 20 to 25 carry back, then why would you draft a complementory back in the first round!!!. This is what I’ve said alot, about Jerry, he gets fixated on a player, thats what he did with Jones, and no one was going to tell him Mendenhall was the better pick. Nobody thought out of all the top three, Mendenhall would land right in our lap, this is another in a long list of poor decisions by Jerry Jones. Mendenhall should of been the pick at 22 over a complementory back, we aready have a complementory back in barber. I could not believe my ears when Jerry mentioned that Mendenhall with the ability to be an every down back was a factor in the dumb reasoning for NOT taking him at 22… How much more dumb logic like this do people need to see that Jerry is draft challenged and a complete idiot as a GM….Pittsburgh will be sending Jerry thank you cards for the next ten years before every draft
Jenkins was a great pick at 25, this a a big time cover corner, second best in this draft IMO, shocked he slipped to us there at 22 and was still there at 25 for us to ove up and get him. With the Pac-rat onboard, Jenkins wont be pressed into being a starter right off, he'll have a year to learn under newman and Henry, with the ability to play special teams and get some time in dime situations to get his feet wet. He's going to be a good one.
How does bennett help us this year, a guy that would be lucky to see the field 5% of the time, if that. Dont give me he's a value at that pick, value is a player that can contribute in certain situation, like a pressure player off the edge, Bennett will be inactive most of the year, that wont help us this year, he's a project. Caldwell should of been the pick at 61, You cant count on Glenn be playing a big role, one tweak of that knee and he's done for the year. This team showed late in the season and in the playoffs that if T.O is not 100%, then this team lacks wide receiver speed to stretch the field, thats why Caldwell would be the perfect choice and the replacement for Glenn, I give this draft after the first day C-, Dallas left two better prospects on the board, Again!!
by Deke on
Apr 27, 2008 6:57 AM CDT
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Ol Hickory I couldn’t agree more with you. This reminds me of the draft two years ago. We took a team’s second best linebacker (Carpenter) and now we take a team’s second best back (Jones). And now Jerry Jones is trading away today’s pick. Jerry is a total ass.
by bullitt on
Apr 27, 2008 11:07 AM CDT
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I like Jones
I think Felix Jones was the perfect pick for the Cowboys. He adds depth and makes the team even stronger than they were with Julius Jones. Good pick!
by BillZe on Apr 27, 2008 7:44 AM CDT 0 recs
Slower computers can't handle too many thread comments
I know some of you complained about lagging threads
My modern Core 2 Duo computer can handle lots of comments on this blog, but my laptop (which is not that old) cannot open a post with 200+ comments within a reasonable amount of time.
As with other blogs that get a lot of comments, I recommend opening new threads when the number of comments reaches a certain point.
by Semblance on Apr 27, 2008 8:05 AM CDT 0 recs
I agree
The thread really becomes bogged down after about 125 comments and things lockup. I have a new notebook, 3.4ghz with 2gigs of ram and the thread and site becomes completely unresponsive and unmanageable to navagate at times. I dont think its just a problem with older computers
by Deke on
Apr 27, 2008 8:11 AM CDT
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what browser / operating system are you running?
I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation
by clockwerks on
Apr 27, 2008 10:35 AM CDT
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RB
I continue to hear about Felix Jones being a short term solution.. Marion Barber is 24 he has at least 5 years left in that body, if healthy.. So we can have this combo for the next 5 years. 5 years in the NFL is not short term. I can live with the barbarian and explosive back who can can hit the home run on any carry and catch the ball well out of the backfield. I think his ability to catch the ball well out the backfield may have been one of the deciding factors…
by Wmillion on Apr 27, 2008 8:33 AM CDT 0 recs
Day two is about to start
Where is everyone at—-still in bed????
WAKE UP PEOPLE, LETS GET THIS SHOW THE ROAD!!!!!!!
by Deke on Apr 27, 2008 8:46 AM CDT 0 recs
I am coming around to Bennett
If he played at Miami he might have been a first rounder.
Also, an interesting development, we might not be using the FB as much as we thought we would, or as much as Grizz would want.
by quincyyyyy on Apr 27, 2008 9:45 AM CDT 0 recs
All of the ESPN "Talking Sports-Heads" are second-guessing JJ's choice of Felix Jones
That for me is a reason to believe that it is an excellent choice!
Wharter
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