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Pacman Jones is in the news again for a couple of different reasons. One is a purely football matter, well, almost, because anything to do with our new cornerback is always shaped by what happens with his off the field problems. In this particular case, the details of Pacman’s new contract with the Cowboys have been revealed by Todd Archer.   As expected, Pacman will be playing for minor ducats unless he can reach some significant incentive clauses or if he remains on the team through the 2011 season.

Jones' base salaries total $4.7 million in the first three years of the deal, but there's a huge bump in 2011. Provided he is reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, Jones will earn a $700,000 base salary this year, but he will not receive any signing bonus. The base salaries in 2009-11 are $1 million, $3 million and $7.25 million.

He has March roster bonuses worth $250,000 and $255,000 due in 2009 and ’10 and a $345,000 reporting bonus in 2010. He also has $250,000 workout bonuses in 2009 and 2010.

So for three years his base salary will never top $3 million. And that $3 million is not until the 2010 season. All in all, that’s a very cheap contract for a guy of Pacman’s talent. I can’t find anything to complain about with that contract structure. The 2011 season is the key season in terms of Pacman finally being paid like a top-flight NFL CB. By that time, we will surely know if he’s turned the corner and decided to straighten out his life or if he hasn’t the Cowboys will surely have cut ties with him along the way. If Pacman meets some quality-of-play goals in the first two years then his salary can make the big leap to the 2011 level a year early.

If he is named to two Pro Bowls or intercepts seven passes in any two of the first three seasons and participates in 65 percent of the snaps, his base salary would jump up to the 2011 franchise tender.

I think Jerry and Co. did a pretty good job of restructuring this contract. His base salaries are very low and his roster bonuses are also very low meaning the Cowboys can get out of the situation should anything go wrong along the way.

But speaking of things going wrong, there’s the other story about Pacman that has hit the news today. It has to do with the shooting at the Las Vegas strip club, of course, and it has to do with the alleged shooter in that case, Arvin Edwards, pointing the finger back at Jones. 

Jones told police Edwards extorted $15,000 from him, telling him he needed to pay for "services rendered."

"I definitely didn't receive no $15,000," Edwards said. "I definitely didn't extort nobody out of no money."

Instead, Edwards said Jones "paid somebody to shoot that club up.  Now, if he wants to tell on somebody he needs to tell on himself and tell them what he actually done."

Basically, Edwards is saying that Pacman knows who the shooter was in that incident and that it was part of his posse. He’s calling Pacman a liar and said Jones is using him as a scapegoat to protect himself from implication in the crime. This is what I was referring to when I said the Cowboys are going to have to wade through some mud to make the Pacman deal happen and pay off on the field. Now, a guy who is facing felony charges is likely to say anything to place the blame elsewhere, so you have to take that with a grain of salt, but it 's still is a very unseemly news story involving a new Dallas Cowboys player. Like all things with Pacman, we’ll just have to see how it plays out and what Roger Goodell ultimately ends up deciding.

John Czarnacki thinks that Goodell will eventually end up reinstating Pacman. As long as he doesn’t find trouble over the next couple of months. 

7. When will Roger Goodell reinstate Pacman Jones?

If Pacman doesn't get in trouble in the next few months, Pacman should be on the field when the Cowboys open training camp. With Pacman and rookie cornerback Mike Jenkins joining Terence Newman in the secondary, the Cowboys probably will be favored over the Giants in the NFC East.

You might as well extend that phrase to the next few years because the Cowboys will be on edge over that time hoping that their risk ends up with a big reward.

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I love that contract.

And frankly, if that isn’t enough to motivate Pacman to fly straight, then there’s just no hope for him.

You can't have Thunder without Lightning.

by Nelson... on May 1, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Low risk

I think it is reasonable. Very low risk for the Cowboys and structured such that the Cowboys aren’t promising anything except a chance to play.

by bluewolf021 on May 1, 2008 11:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I particularly like

... the fact that Jerry loaded up on DB help in the draft as insurance against Pacman screwing it up again.

We’re covered with or without him.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on May 1, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this lastest news will be enough

for Goodell to to keep Pacman suspended. Remember, its not about whether this Edwards character is right or wrong or whether Pacman is ever charged again with another crime, its about public perception and I think Goodell will never reinstate Pacman until a very long period of time passes without any mention of him in the news relating to any criminal activity.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 1, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

I agree that it’s not good. In terms of the reinstatement decision, for Goodell to deny him, I think it needs to be more than some guy (who, as Grizz said, has nothing to lose) mouthing off. Frankly, that is proof of nothing and it’s not even persuasive. Unless this guy will has some kind of proof to somehow back up what he’s saying, or if Pacman commits some kind of affirmatively bad act (which, for all we know, may have already happened), he’ll get reinstated.

However, if Pacman is telling Goodell or others that he paid this guy extortion money and that turns out not to be true, that’s going to hurt his chances for sure. Anything showing dishonesty on Pacman’s part in this process is going to hurt his chances significantly. It just has to be more than he said – he said.

by grapejoos on May 1, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there doesn't have to be proof

because there wasn’t any proof before regarding all 6 arrests which was the impetus to his suspensions. Like I’ve said a million times, if Pacman is going to make the NFL look bad in the public eye, proof or no proof, he’ll never get reinstated.

Pacman will have to live like a hermit and keep out of the public eye (unless its in a positve way) for a while before the commish will consider his reinstatement.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 1, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It may not require proof in the legal sense

but it has to be more than a guy saying Jones did it in order to plead down. Goodell will probably wait to see where this goes before deciding, but I doubt he’s going to base his decision solely on the word of Edwards.

But if nothing else, it points out the wisdom of getting two good CBs in the draft and structuring both the trade and the contract to minimize the impact on the team.

by dunkman on May 1, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm, arrests are different

If you get arrested, that means a police officer thinks he has probable cause. That’s different. I do think another arrest would certainly mean no reinstatement.

When I say proof, I mean something corroborating the statements of another criminal just saying “Pacman said this, Pacman said that.”

If Pacman DOES SOMETHING to make the NFL look bad, then I generally agree (such as getting arrested, saying bad things in the media, or lying about his past actions). Goodell isn’t going to keep him suspended if he’s minding his own business and some stranger is saying bad things about him. Surely even you can’t think that someone merely saying something about you, with no support, should not result in suspension/denial of reinstatement.

by grapejoos on May 1, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW (re: Edwards)

I just read the story Grizz linked about this Edwards guy. This guy, charged with 3 counts of attempted murder, is saying that Jones picked him out of a lineup because the real shooter is in Jones’ posse in Atlanta, and Jones picked Edwards to avoid any link between himself and the shootings. He then claims that Jones did order the shootings and paid the guy in Atlanta for them. He denies that Jones paid him any extortion money. Then, he says Pacman is lying to get reinstated and make millions, and claims that he has no reason to lie.

Now, this guy could be telling the truth. It’s impossible to know for sure, though figuring out whether Pacman did actually pay someone $15k (and if that person is Edwards) would be the closest thing to proof that there will be. But this guy has an enormous incentive to lie, and his story isn’t all that compelling to me. He’s trying to finger an anonymous member of Jones’ posse as the real shooter and deny the extortion. Meanwhile, the Vegas police did a thorough investigation and decided this guy was their suspect. I guarantee that to do that, they had more evidence than Pacman Jones of all people, who himself might have been implicated, picking him out of a lineup.

Police sometimes make mistakes, and it’s possible that this guy is telling the truth (whether about his lack of involvement or Pacman’s active involvement). But really, unless he can show that he wasn’t the shooter or if proof comes out showing Jones didn’t pay him like he said (Pacman’s biggest potential exposure here), there is no reason to believe he is anything but a defendant trying to blame a media villain for his own actions. I have seen and worked on enough cases of mistaken identity and police misconduct to give a guy like Edwards more benefit of the doubt than most would, and I’m just not buying it right now.

by grapejoos on May 1, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bottom line is that Goodell will wait to see

how this whole situation shakes out before he reinstates Pacman.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 1, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably

He’ll at least wait until there’s been a little probing of these claims and he’s satisfied as to whether they are true or not. Who knows how long it’ll take to fully shake out, especially if this Edwards guy doesn’t take a plea.

by grapejoos on May 1, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

He will want to avoid reinstating only to suspend again. For life.

by dunkman on May 1, 2008 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever

we get the Titans 4th round pick next year.

by quincyyyyy on May 1, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Different Topic

This site got me hooked on the idea of the WR from Okla. St. Bowman. Did anyone pick him up?

by dchesse on May 1, 2008 1:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

can't trust him

my three words regarding Pacman Jones…

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by silverblue5 on May 1, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

umm

that ad on the top right is quite disturbing.

just got ownaged

by Longhorn on May 1, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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Tar Heels football will surprise this year

by DalaiLuke on May 1, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

k

just didn’t know this blog was sponsored by gay chubby dating…

just got ownaged

by Longhorn on May 1, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They were in the wrong place

They usually only advertise on the Eagles site…

by dunkman on May 2, 2008 5:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy does have reason for lieing

He is being charged with counts of muder. That is plenty of reason for him to be coming out wiht false accusations.

by Romo9 on May 1, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice contract Jerry

Well done.

As far as Pacman being re-instated, I think Goodell lets him back in. Yes, the 15K payoff story stinks, but there has to be corroborating proof for Goodell to rule against Pacman. A guy who is facing a long term prison sentence isn’t a reliable witness on his own.

Worst case, Pacman doesn’t get back in, Cowboys dump him, we get another 4th rounder in 2009.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on May 1, 2008 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I also think he'll be reinstated.

Unless something concrete appears, or Pacman craps the bed in the next few months, we should see him wearing the star at training camp. Remember, a year suspension is HUGE – he lost a HUGE paycheck already. If the Cowboys can demonstrate a strong support network, that will only further his chances. This guy’s accusations will not mean much by themselves.

Tar Heels football will surprise this year

by DalaiLuke on May 1, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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