Dallas Cowboys sign Marion Barber to seven year deal
by Brandon W
on May 20, 2008 3:03 PM CDT
The Cowboys and running back Marion Barber have come to terms on a seven-year, $45 million deal, with $16 million guaranteed, according to agent Drew Rosenhaus. Barber will earn $21 million over first three years of the deal.
This is a GREAT deal, for both sides. Barber now has long term security with the Cowboys and doesn't have to worry about whether the team is committed to him or not. Jerry Jones is able to keep a top running back for a decent price as well. 7 years is a long time for a running back, but it helps to spread that money around.
Ok boys, who's next to sign?
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Holy cow, busy day
To be honest, this is a bit surprising. It seemed like the two sides were pretty far apart on numbers.
by BudLight on May 20, 2008 3:10 PM CDT 0 recs
Wow
So is the opt out of the CBA forcing deals to get done today?
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by APerfectStar on May 20, 2008 3:12 PM CDT 0 recs
I keep hearing that
Don’t know how many of you guys are Ticket listeners but they keep mentioning that they had to get the deals done b/c of a deadline since they owners opted out, but they haven’t explained what the deadline is or anything about it.
by cgolden on
May 20, 2008 3:36 PM CDT
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Just saw it on espn
Mort is talking about it
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on May 20, 2008 3:12 PM CDT 0 recs
7 years....
wow, that is a long contract considering the Barbarian’s style of running. I’m glad they got something done.
by bluewolf021 on May 20, 2008 3:12 PM CDT 0 recs
Yeah
Doesnt mean the team has to keep him that long though…
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on
May 20, 2008 3:13 PM CDT
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Hmmm, is Hamlin next?
Things come in three’s you know. That would be QUITE a day!
by John Boy on May 20, 2008 3:14 PM CDT 0 recs
That is a ton of money for a part time runner
But I’m sure Stephen is going to gather a ton of that money into 2010 and make a lot of the following years very low-risk.
And before y’all lynch me for besmirching MB3, let me say that I am elated that we get to keep him. Next to Demarcus Ware, who I might be gay for, Barber is my favorite player in the NFL. I’m just not so sure if keeping him is the smartest decision on a financial level.
by BudLight on May 20, 2008 3:15 PM CDT 0 recs
No doubt they front loaded both contracts
especially Newman.
by Boyzfan94 on
May 20, 2008 3:54 PM CDT
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He'll be here for 3 years only
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by Longhorn on May 20, 2008 3:16 PM CDT 0 recs
So very Disappointing
I am so disappointed with this move. A franchise contract for a part-time running back who is good but not great, and eminently replaceable. Poor, poor allocation of scarce resources: a first round draft pick AND a huge deal spent on the running back position?! The Cowboys could have gotten 90% of the running back production without spending a first round pick and a ton of $$$$.
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Damn I’m frustrated. This has a significant negative impact on our ability to sign Canty and Hamlin, two players who I believe are far more critical to the success of the Cowboys than MB3 and much harder to replace. I think I’ll have to drink some beers this evening. Well, at least I’ll have a few months to blow off my frustration so I can start cheering for Barber again.
The Newman signing rocks though.
by Cowboy Louie on May 20, 2008 3:36 PM CDT 0 recs
Louie - wrong post
All contract concerns are to be posted on the thread that outlines the Newman signing . . . Capology 101 is being taught on that thread by Boyzfan94. . .lol.
Just kidding – although, you do owe me 22 mil, BoyzFan
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by JerrodWheeler on
May 20, 2008 3:42 PM CDT
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I agree in part
but I was all for MB3 and less for Newman. I’m sure they front loaded the heck out of both contracts and both are probably more like 3 or 4 year deals. After that, I’m sure the contract goes up like crazy.
by Boyzfan94 on
May 20, 2008 3:57 PM CDT
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How do you front load and have the contract balloon in the latter years?
am I misunderstanding the concept?
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by JerrodWheeler on
May 20, 2008 4:00 PM CDT
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bigger signing bonuses
up front and less amount per year on the contract. Keeps the base salary down.
Just a theory, but if MB3’s deal is more like a 4 year deal that would pave the way for Choice to replace him since that will be the end of his rookie contract.
by Boyzfan94 on
May 20, 2008 4:03 PM CDT
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I think you have to give the Jones
the benefit of the doubt. They have proven to get quality players at very reasonable deals and I know Jerry has learned about messing around with the salary cap. I seriously doubt we’ll see MB3 running here in 4 years and I have no doubt the deal front loads the $$ and gives the boys every option to cut their losses should injury or declining play occur. We’ll sign Hamlin and Canty next, wait and see.
by Billito on May 20, 2008 3:40 PM CDT 0 recs
You do
They have done a great job of managing the cap and keeping this team together.
I don’t think they would have signed this deal if they thought it meant they couldn’t keep Canty or Hamlin. Hamlin is a huge key but he’s also in line for a huge payday. Somehow I think all of the deals will get done.
There is a master plan at work, and the goal of that plan is to give this team a core capable of winning the Super Bowl until TO retires, essentially. The framework is in place. Who knows how much longer we’ll be able to keep a roster this good together, but to have 13 pro bowlers last year (say what you will), not lose any, add 2 first round picks, AND add Zach Thomas and Pacman Jones to the team, with very little cap room to play with, is pretty impressive.
by grapejoos on
May 20, 2008 6:31 PM CDT
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I agree, our little dynasty run
over the next few years is falling into place.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
May 20, 2008 6:54 PM CDT
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Great job Jerry
Get it done!!
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by Mullin on May 20, 2008 4:00 PM CDT 0 recs
chica chica yeah
it’s about time, but yes!
My popcorn's ready!
by CowboyBawler4 on May 20, 2008 4:01 PM CDT 0 recs
Choice to replace MB3 in 4 years it's shaking out
by Boyzfan94 on
May 20, 2008 4:05 PM CDT
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I'll be surprised if Choice is here in 4 years
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by JerrodWheeler on
May 20, 2008 4:06 PM CDT
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We'll have the opportunity to draft someone else between now and then
I don’t think Choice will get the opportunity to really show his abilities in whole unless Barber gets hurt for an extended period of time. Four years from now – We’ll more than likely have a new backfield all together.
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by JerrodWheeler on
May 20, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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well....if we were going to sign anybody....these two were essential...
MBIII’s contract falls right in line with what i predicted, albeit I had him signing for 6 years 36-39 with the same 16 million bonus….the 7th year equates to the same monies…I’m sure the length of this deal had alot to do with the structuring….as i’m sure it has to be a cap friendly 4 year deal in reality.
.I also figured Newman would get 6 years 48-50 million….which was right on…22.5 mil bonus leads me to think it’s more on the lines of a 3 year extention in reality…with much of the bonus paid in the first three years….which is true with the 3 year 21 million in first three years…..’with the last three being cap diluting years…..
Overall good day…..lol….this may have swung my thoughts of moving to DFW….woooohooo..
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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by BoyzRback on May 20, 2008 4:03 PM CDT 0 recs
next up...
got to be hamlin, followed by canty. And I don’t know when, but I hope they’ll sign a veteran #2 WR. Crayton needs to be a #3.
by g8tgod on May 20, 2008 4:14 PM CDT 0 recs
Unless you can get some cap savings. . .
I’d play Hamlin on the Franchise Tag. Guarantees he plays at market value and gives us another year to evaluate the players in the backfield. If Henry is a target to potentially move to Safety. . .If RW finally steps up to expectations. . .if Courtney Brown improves as a second year Safety – let alone a second year NFL player. . .if Watkins takes a huge step forward. . .
There are several scenarios that might not require a long term deal on Hamlin. Then again – with another year in the can, you have more knowledge about your need to have him here longer term. Just my thinking.
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by JerrodWheeler on
May 20, 2008 4:23 PM CDT
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Great Moves
Marion will earn his money. The guy is going to get 20 Carriers a game.. Choice will not see the field unless he is needed and this fine with me…
Hamlin may have to wait until next year..
I wonder what type of money Canty wants.
"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"
by Wmillion on
May 20, 2008 4:34 PM CDT
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if MB3 gets 20 carries a game
he’ll burn out by December. If the Cowboys coaches are smart, he’ll only average 15-17 touches per game and allow the youngins get some PT, thats why we drafted them, not to sit on the bench.
We need MB3 fresh for the playoff run.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
May 20, 2008 6:07 PM CDT
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We will see
I don’t pay a guy that kind of money to hold him back..
They don’t do that with any other franchise back..
"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"
by Wmillion on
May 20, 2008 6:41 PM CDT
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MB3 isn't like any other franchise back
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by Terry on
May 20, 2008 6:55 PM CDT
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Every running back is different..
I just don’t see him only getting 15 carriers a game…
He wanted to get played like a top back , he got paid, and he will be expected to carry the mail like one..
LJ, LT, Sjackson, etc.. all get 20 carriers a game.
"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"
by Wmillion on
May 20, 2008 8:27 PM CDT
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those guys don't run as hard
and tough as MB3. If he gets 20 carries a game he’ll be useless to us in December and January and he’ll only play a few more years.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
May 20, 2008 9:47 PM CDT
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Choice is going to get carries
don’t worry about that.
by Boyzfan94 on
May 20, 2008 6:15 PM CDT
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I am not so sure
What is his niche?
If he gets more then 3 carriers a game I will be suprised.
"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"
by Wmillion on
May 20, 2008 6:42 PM CDT
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This guy is going to see alot of touches
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on
May 20, 2008 7:42 PM CDT
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love that picture.......wooo hoooo...
MBIII 15-18 carries a game…
Felix Jones 8-15 carries a game
Choice 3-5 carries a game
Look for more of a ball controlled 55% pass- 45% rush sequence from Garrett this year.,...I’m sure they’d like to keep Romo under 30 passes a game…A big reason we got Bennett at TE…expect about 30-35 rushing plays per game with Barber getting about 18, Jones 12, and Choice possibly 5 per…....
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on
May 20, 2008 8:34 PM CDT
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it's possible
Rb’s defintely get nicked. Even LT a guy who has been healthy finally got nicked. We will be ready..
"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"
by Wmillion on
May 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT
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I agree, Hamlin's chances not looking too good
As far as getting a long term deal right now. He should have told his agent to take the original offer, if they weren’t that far apart as reported. I have to think his agent is a moron who saw what the Raiders gave Gibril Wilson and was blinded by the $$$. I think they leave him franchised this season and then reassess the situation later. He’s not going to hold out with over $4 mil at stake.
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by APerfectStar on
May 20, 2008 4:55 PM CDT
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+1
Not this season anyway, but I thought MB3 didn’t have a chance either so…lol. Well see, but the odds are he will have to wait until after the season.
by Boyzfan94 on
May 20, 2008 6:17 PM CDT
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Hamlin is going to get paid
The question is where. Dallas is in a good situation with him and Canty. They will play here for a reasonable rate on the “Romo plan” – show you’re the real deal, and you’ll get rewarded. If the Cowboys can’t afford him, someone will.
Personally, I think our safeties may change a lot. If Roy returns to form, who knows, we may be set at SS. If Pacman gets reinstated, we can seriously consider moving Henry to FS (and Hamlin to SS). And keep in mind those two kids in Watkins and Brown, who just might be something.
Canty has us in a tighter spot in terms of need, but thankfully run-stuffing 3-4 DEs aren’t all that pricey/sexy in comparison.
by grapejoos on
May 20, 2008 6:36 PM CDT
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Great Day! all around
I’m super happy for my man MB3. I’m glad he’ll live out the rest of his career a Cowboy. Thats the way it should be.
by quincyyyyy on May 20, 2008 6:19 PM CDT 0 recs
well...
this will finally put to bed those silly MB3 and T-New are leaving after this year rumors….
this also reaffirms that MB3’s contract demands weren’t outrageous….he pretty much got the money he was looking for….
this also reaffirms something that i hate to admit…drew rosenhaus is damn good at his job….
this should also make people think twice about complaining about players asking for more money when they’ve already signed a contract….the owners had a contract….a binding contract…guess what? they opted out of it….
i’m very pleased with the MB3 signing. he’s only been a spectacular player for us and beat out a back many of us thought was the back of the future…..he works hard, keeps his nose clean and is a great teammate….i’m glad we have him and I’m glad he got paid…
by Tuna Helper on May 20, 2008 6:49 PM CDT 0 recs
no question that Jones family and Rosenhaus
are developing a very good relationship.
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by Terry on
May 20, 2008 6:57 PM CDT
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which is great news with TO due up soon.....TO will play for a Dallas discount....
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on
May 20, 2008 8:38 PM CDT
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Also no doubt
that Rosenhaus did a great job for Barber. A lot of agents couldn’t have got him that money, though I don’t think it’s unfair. He’s proven more than Turner, so he should get paid more (BTW, that Turner/Ryan backfield in ATL is pretty pricey!)
by grapejoos on
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We are doing it Right
They say it is not always the guys you bring in, but the guys you don’t let get away…
I think we are good hands with the JONES family, built for the future.
"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"
by Wmillion on May 20, 2008 6:54 PM CDT 0 recs
The Most Important Thing About The MB3 Signing...
... is that I can now purchase my authentic Dallas Cowboys Marion Barber III jersey now!!!
Woo-Hoo!!!
"Jerry Jones offers more second chances than a tent revival." -- Kevin Sherrington, The Dallas Morning News
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by silverblue5 on May 20, 2008 7:39 PM CDT 0 recs
lol...silver.....it's awesome news....knowing our RB position is finally locked in for the next 4 years at least...
I’ll already have authentic Romo and Witten jerseys..I’m going to be getting my Felix Jones real soon….TO if he resigns as well.
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on
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Hey Boyz...
got a hottie friend in Dallas (Garland area), and I wanna visit her in da fall. Lemme know what you learn when you move to the DFW region.
sorry, that was a non-football comment, but it did have to do with Dallas, right?
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by silverblue5 on
May 20, 2008 9:45 PM CDT
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oh yeah...I'll have to do a lil cock block on ya...toss me her # ?....lol
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on
May 21, 2008 5:47 AM CDT
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HA! Should've been wiser in selecting my words -- LOL!!!
Meant in terms of directions, where Garland is located, how close it is to Texas Stadium, etc.
Every time I hear that term - “cock block ” - it cracks me up. That’s eff’n hilarious.
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by silverblue5 on
May 21, 2008 8:46 AM CDT
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Love both signings
And it makes me like the Felix Jones pick even more.
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by jsams on May 20, 2008 8:07 PM CDT 0 recs
The Cat and The Barbarian on the field at the same time.....damage will be done.
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on May 20, 2008 8:42 PM CDT 0 recs
I can see the shift in emphasis towards the running game, what do y'all think
Which is going to give the offense a more balanced attack. Take some pressure off Romo, and the passing game.
1) Houck is back
2) Locked up Barber
3) Drafted 2 really good rookies, and picked up a nice UDFA in Lattimore
4) Locked up Adams, to go along with Gurode and Bigg
5) Drafted Free and Marten last year, should give us good depth
6) Now have 2 TE’s who can block and also beat most LB’s in coverage
7) I think McQ will be able to beat out Kosier with Houck’s coaching, that’s going to give Dallas one of the biggest O-lines in the league.
8) Cricket looks like the best true FB we’ve had since Moose
Just my 2 cents
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by APerfectStar on May 20, 2008 10:00 PM CDT 0 recs
I totally disagree
Even though we drafted Jones and Choice, the Cowboys will always be a passing team first and foremost so long as Garrett is the OC and Romo is the QB.
I’m just hoping our running game is more successful than last season in terms of yds per carry.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
May 21, 2008 7:21 AM CDT
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And I'm hoping Tom's mention of Houck returning...
... means the Cowboys will bring back the effective type of run blocking that Dallas consistently executed during the Triplets era.
I’d love to see Bigg pullin’ more on sweeps a la Larry Allen.
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by silverblue5 on
May 21, 2008 8:49 AM CDT
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Maybe I should have been clearer
I don’t think the Cowboys are going to emphasize the run over the pass. I just meant the offense will be more balanced between rushing and passing. It’s fun to watch Romo light up the opponents, but at the same time, the team needs to be able to rely on the running game. Even the Patriots ran the ball more than Dallas last year.
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by APerfectStar on
May 21, 2008 4:04 PM CDT
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I think it will be 60/40 pass/run ratio
which for a passing team is very well balanced.
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by Terry on
May 21, 2008 4:16 PM CDT
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true
When u have Julius Jones averaging 3.6 yds a carry, you have to air it out..
"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"
by Wmillion on
May 22, 2008 12:35 AM CDT
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