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Darren Woodson has some commentary on Roy Williams that’s pretty interesting. He suggests that in Roy’s early years, he and the coaches would not put Roy in positions where he had to cover.

Said Woodson: "When I played, there was no way I was going to let Roy go out there and cover. No way Zimmer was going to allow it, either."

I’d guess that Woodson is over-simplifying here, there’s no way a safety can play almost every defensive down and not be forced into some tough coverage situations. But the point is probably that Roy was protected whenever possible, letting him concentrate on what he does best. We know what that was.

"Roy does his best coming downhill. I've never seen a better big-time game-changer in my entire career," Woodson said.

The Roy Williams that was effective in Dallas was the guy who caused havoc and struck fear into the offensive skill players. His game-changing hits, the momentum-swingers, the turnover-makers, were a welcome site on the Cowboys defense. Those plays have been much less visible over the past few years. Since he’ll never be a good cover guy - his hips are stiff and he doesn’t read the ball in the air well - the Cowboys tried again last year to protect him in coverage by sliding him to linebacker in obvious passing situations. I don’t think he gets beat in coverage as badly as has been suggested, but he’s never going to make his money there, either. Even though Woodson thinks he can still improve.

"If he concentrates and focuses, and accepts the challenge, he can cover."

But even Woodson admitted, "I think his focus is still on wanting to be the big hitter."

Well, if that is where his focus is then it’s a problem. Not because it distracts from his already meager coverage skills, but because it says he’s concentrating on the thing that actually does make him valuable, and still not succeeding. He’s making tackles in run support and after pass catches, but for him to be a special player, he has to do more. He has to make the big plays. The plays he used to make which seem to have disappeared from his contributions.

Roy’s complained about the defensive scheme but Woodson still thinks he can succeed.

"I don't think [this defense] is a career-killer," Woodson added. "I do think you'll see a better Roy Williams."

Roy needs to play angry this season. Maybe with all this talk about him, he’ll play with a chip on his shoulder. As long as it’s not a wide receiver on his shoulder. We know that won’t end up pretty.

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Terry Glenn wants everybody to know that he wanted to practice in this week’s OTA’s but the Cowboys shot down that idea. In text message form, Glenn offered this:

"Let's just say I showed up Tuesday for meetings and ... ," Glenn said. "Ur gonna have to do the math. I'm not going against management in the media. But I want people to know I'm not practicing, not by my choice."

The Cowboys are just being prudent; Jerry wants Glenn during the season, not just for OTA’s and training camp.

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Here is Pacman’s agent on the recent problems with the Las Vegas casino.

"We've informed the league and it is my sincere hope that it has no impact on the reinstatement process,'' Arora said.

Sincere hope? Yuck, this should have been knocked out earlier. The NFL says:

… NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said "We are aware of it, and we are looking into it."

And what happened that it got this far?

"We've been in constant communication with the district attorney's office about giving us some time to pay back the debt," Arora told Werder. "The only delay was we tried to liquidate assets on behalf of Adam to raise the money since he wasn't receiving a salary and it took longer than expected. The debt will be paid within the next few days.''

Amazing how those assets can be liquidated and be ready for payment just a couple of days after the bad news hits the news.

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Terry Glenn

If he is healthy, that is a HUGE plus

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on May 23, 2008 1:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Mosely dropped this interesting little tid-bit in one of his blog postings
In a column I’m working on for tomorrow, I’ll try to explain what went wrong for Williams and how he’s lost favor in the team’s locker room. There are rumblings that the Cowboys might cut him after training camp, but I think he’ll play through the season. But unless something changes, I don’t think Williams will be a Cowboy in 2009.

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Thats the first I have heard of that. Where are these rumblings coming from that he speaks of, within or outside the organization? I am thinking within the organization, because he doesn’t just say “cut” he specifically said “cut after training camp”. Interesting.

by quincyyyyy on May 23, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting...

but the rumblings are probably him reading the various blogs. I think Roy has some trade value, so cutting him seems unlikely.

by ChrisRichey on May 23, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roy's Issues

I suspect that Roy’s weaknesses have been compounded since Woody retired because (1) the secondary used to cover for his weaknesses, and then it flipped to Roy trying to cover up other’s weaknesses; (2) the NFL continues to become more of a passing league each year; and (3) teams began to directly target Roy, culminating with Sean Payton’s Saints completely exposing him.

However, at least as important is his indifferent attitude toward game preparation and staying in top physical condition. Cowboy fans can forgive a lot if we think our guy is giving it 100%. But when we see a guy’s performance going downhill each year, while at the same time his attitude is one of complacency…..well, you get the situation we now have. It doesn’t help that he tends to blame others either.

Nevertheless, hope spring eternal, especially this time of year. I continue to hold out a small bit of hope that Roy will improve a bit in 2008 as opposed to continuing his downhill slide.

by Cowboy Louie on May 23, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well Said Louie

I agree with all of the above.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on May 23, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go Woody

Woodson’s opinion is right on the money. Glad he has Roy’s back in the media. I’m with Grizz on this one, let’s hope Roy comes out with a giant chip on his shoulder and starts knocking the spit out of people again.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on May 23, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Williams

I think one of the problems with Roy is that the league has changed the rules on him since he started playing. I’m not just talking about the horsecollar tackles either. Roy used to put the fear of God in opposing players, and even if they caught the pass, they wouldn’t be catching the next one. A player Roy Williams hit would be down for a while, catching his breath, and he’d be afraid to step on that side of the field again.

Now that the NFL is fining or flagging players who make “vicious” hits, Roy is trying not to get suspended. Then you take away his signature move, the horsecollar, and now he’s just a dog with more bark than bite.

I say bite ‘em Roy. Let the league fine you. The defense should take up a collection each game to pay for any fines Roy might receive during the game, and then just unleash the beast that was. Make people have to get an MRI after each game. Bring it on.

How Bout Them Cowboys!

by sprprsnmn on May 23, 2008 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well they won't just fine him

they’ll suspend him, and it won’t be for just one game like last year it will be for multiple games.


Make people have to get an MRI after each game.

That is a very unfortunate statement. Roy almost ended Musa Smith’s career with his tactics. You should never wish injury on another player. You should never wish to end the hopes, dreams, and livelihood of someone else. I know Roy doesn’t care, but its unsettling there are Cowboys fans who share that sentiment.

by quincyyyyy on May 23, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roy is trying to make a tackle

To say he is trying to end someone’s career is a big assumption on your part.

I will agree with you on a couple things (I’m sure you are in shock)

I don’t want to see him horse collar anymore, it is a dangerous way to bring someone down.
I don’t want him to get suspended, and I don’t want to see 15 yard personal foul penalties.
I don’t think many fans want to see a player get seriously injured, but I’d still like to see them get up off the turf really slowly and have it in the back of their mind for the rest of the game.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on May 23, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

They changed the Rules on a guy who has been tackling like that for years.. It is natural, for him to change something so natural is going to take time. One thing about that tackle is your aren’t going to any extra yards, there is no dragging the defender with that tackle.

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on May 23, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry but that is B.S.

Roy is not a dumb old dog, he can learn new tricks. This rule has been on the books for a couple of years now. Anybody is perfectly capable of changing if they really want to. Its not hard to learn a new way of tackling if you are COMMITTED, which Roy certainly isn’t. In fact he had to have a private discussion with his coaches about his commitment.

by quincyyyyy on May 23, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

So it easy to learn a new way of tackling? The guy has effectively tackled that way since High School. You wonder why he was missing tackles? He is trying to work that out..

You would fall in to the hater category. That is fine, you are entitled to your own opionon, but there is no reasoning with someone who falls in that category..

I am not going to say Roy is great in every facet of the game, but he helps our team win.

What makes you say he is not commited? There are a lot of quality players in the NFL who skip there teams off-season workouts.

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on May 23, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmmm....
What makes you say he is not commited? There are a lot of quality players in the NFL who skip there teams off-season workouts.

Maybe the fact he had to have a private conversation with his coaches regarding his commitment to the team might be a good indication of his lack of commitment.

by quincyyyyy on May 23, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm
“The communication was not there last year,” Williams said. “We recognized the problem, and we talked about it. And we’re going to move forward now. We have a better understanding.”

Sounds like miscommunication, not a lack of commitment.. Like u said it was a private converstation..

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on May 23, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like Roy is using a euphemism
Defensive coordinator Brian Stewart and safeties coach Brett Maxie summoned Pro Bowl strong safety Roy Williams to Valley Ranch for a meeting Friday to talk about his commitment to the Cowboys.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/cowboys/stories/051108dnspocowlede.3a26947.html

by quincyyyyy on May 23, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is

He wouldn’t need to tackle that way if he wasn’t taking a bad angle on the ball 99% of the time.

by ChrisRichey on May 24, 2008 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you say so...

Either way he was making solo tackles in the open field.. There was no complaining of missed tackles then. Roy got his hands on you, and it was wrap.

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on May 24, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pacman's Problems

Whatever they say it will be on their minds when thinking about Pacman’s reinstatement. I fear he is going to be a disaster!

Maybe he and Charles Barkley can work out a payment plan together!

http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/cowboyscorner/

by BillZe on May 23, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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