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It's the offseason and Greg Ellis is talking

 

Greg Ellis just needs to employ a self-imposed gag order during the offseason. The last couple of years it was all the stuff about his contract and not fitting into the Cowboys 3-4 system. Now, he’s talking about another player not being comfortable in Wade Phillips’ 3-4 system. Here’s what Greg had to say about Roy Williams in an interview today. 

"Roy told me in training camp, he said, 'Greg this defense does not fit me. I don’t fit in well with this defense at all,' " Ellis said. "Obviously, it came to be true just like he said. He doesn’t fit what’s going on here in Dallas right now. Maybe this year, if they decide to keep him for this season Wade and them would kind of adjust some things to fit him better."

In truth, the part about Roy not being comfortable in Wade’s system is no big deal. I don’t know why that’s causing such a stir since Roy said the exact same thing in an interview last week. 

"I'm going to have to get comfortable in the system," [Roy Williams] said. "It's not easy with the coaching change. You're used to one thing and then you have to adjust to another playing style."

So he was just repeating what Roy already said and Greg was doing it in a defense of Roy. But dropping the "if they decide to keep him for this season" is not really something you want to say about a teammate. But we know that Roy isn’t going anywhere for this season, Dallas just doesn’t have the personnel at safety to do that. Then Ellis went further by saying:

"The bothersome thing for me as Roy’s friend and his teammate, I hate the criticism he is getting," Ellis said. "I hate the fact how he is kind of isolating himself from the team."

Now he’s making it sound like Roy is bailing out on his team and not interacting with the rest of the guys. That’s not really something you want to say about a teammate in public. It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, that stuff that should stay in the clubhouse.

When Ellis was called about it later, he did offer this defense of his comments:

"Everybody is saying they need to get rid of him, they need to trade him. I think he gets a bad rap," Ellis said by phone. "One thing you can’t say I said about Roy is that he should be traded or let go. I think he should stay my teammate. When someone asks me a question, it’s my job to be on Roy’s side and that’s what I was doing. I don’t think he should go anywhere. He should stay here."

Greg, do yourself a favor. If you want to discuss your own problems with the Cowboys organization like you did the last few years, that’s one thing. But dragging your teammate into it is probably something better left alone.

Hat tip to quincyyyyy for posting this in a FanPost. 

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any confrimation on roy losing 30 pounds this off-season?

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"

by Wmillion on May 8, 2008 11:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't been able to find a confirmation on that

Saw the rumors but never saw an article confirming. If anybody has found one please post it and let us know.

by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on May 8, 2008 11:37 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN.

I know I heard it on Sportscenter about 7-10 days ago. I have looked all over ESPN and Youtube for the video.. It was a special on his off-season work out..

I will keep trying..

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"

by Wmillion on May 9, 2008 8:43 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

-1

just got ownaged

by Longhorn on May 9, 2008 12:39 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We have the personel
But we know that Roy isn’t going anywhere for this season, Dallas just doesn’t have the personnel at safety to do that

I’ll have to disagree with that statement. We have the personnel if we moved Hamlin to SS and Watkins to FS or move Henry to FS now that we have depth at CB. There is really no such thing as a SS and FS anymore. You need two safeties with cover skills. Roy is a dinosaur in today’s NFL.
I think by us not releasing Roy has more to do with his cap ramifications, not whether we have the personnel to fill his position. I’m so sick of Roy making excuses. I can’t wait until the day he is released, because in all honesty he is a liability on this defense.

by Boyzfan94 on May 9, 2008 1:07 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The funny thing is

that Roy’s decline started long before Wade was here so him not fitting in doesn’t make sense.

by Boyzfan94 on May 9, 2008 1:16 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

weak spot

roy may be the biggest weakness on the team now. he’s widely perceived that way. seems like from what wade said earlier he thinks the new depth at corner will help relieve the pressure on roy and hopes he gets his hit back, and my sense is that they intend to start him. but locker rooms leaking this kind of stuff don’t help instill confidence, that’s for sure. ellis would be wise to say less. good to have options if need be.

by scottmaui on May 9, 2008 1:46 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Keep Ellis away from the HBO crew

You would think a vet like Ellis would know better than to say something about a teammate that could be taken the wrong way. Now he’s trying to backpedal out of it. Ellis just needs to channel Duane Thomas when it comes to the media.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on May 9, 2008 2:36 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe he thought that he could motivate him or something. I guarantee you he isn’t the only one on the team that thinks that way.

by Zak on May 9, 2008 12:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe so

But he’s the only guy throwing Roy under the bus in public. It’s just unnecessary to do it. Now I see it’s one of the lead stories on Sportscenter. This is the kind of bs drama the media just feeds off of.
It doesn’t help Roy or the team.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on May 9, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ellis isn't saying anything more negative

than anyone else on this blog so whats the big deal. I’m sure Roy reads the bashing of himself on blogs such as this one so whats the difference if he hears it from a teammate?

It is what it is, so whats the big deal.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 9, 2008 9:14 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know about you Terry

But I give a lot more credence to what people say about me that I actually know, interact with, people I consider friends that I do some random person on the Internet. And with sports and teammates, that is usually ratcheted up even more. I don’t think this is that big of a deal but I’m not going to pretend that what we say about Roy has remotely close to the impact on him that things that are said by those who are close to him would. It’s not even in the same ballpark.

by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on May 9, 2008 9:31 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, I disagree because from the sounds of it

it doesn’t sound like Roy is being that great of a teammate by isolating himself from the team off the field.

BTW, how do you Ellis and Roy are even friends? Thats a pretty big presumption on your part. I’ve played and coached on many teams and not all teammates are friends and hang out with each off the field. In reality, you are never going to have every player get along with each other or like each other. So long as they can get along on the field is all that really matters.

IMO, what a fan says and what a teammate says regarding a player is in the same ballpark.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 9, 2008 9:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know they're friends because Greg said so.
“The bothersome thing for me as Roy’s friend and his teammate, I hate the criticism he is getting,” Ellis said.

by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on May 9, 2008 9:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If that is true, then I really don't see

anything that can be construed as negativity in what he said. Just doesn’t make sense to me why he can’t talk about another teammate if its not negative.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 9, 2008 9:50 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fans and teammates are in the same ballpark? Really?

Would it be different if this was Wade Phillips talking? This is the first time (I am aware of) anyone other than Roy on the team has acknowledged the struggles he’s been going through. I think it’s significant. It’s not anything we didn’t know before, but the cracks in Roy’s stature with this team are starting to be visible.

by grapejoos on May 9, 2008 9:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ditto

I love to write on here as way to cheer, rant, talk about all things Cowboy, but I never delude myself enough to think my comments have the slightest impact on anyone from the team.

To compare what we say on the Blog, to what a professional teammate and friend says on a radio broadcast is ridiculous.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on May 9, 2008 7:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Great points.

"I thought that was bull," Washington said. "What is he 6-13? That's just frustration. He overreacted." - Wash on Sexson

by Longhorn on May 9, 2008 5:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously?

If one of you guys called me an idiot, I’d shrug it off. If my friends or family called me an idiot, that would sting.

Roy’s response to any of us would be, “Have you ever played pro football? No? Then shut up” but when Ellis, who I believe is the longest serving Cowboy at this point, and I think he was a team captain last year, says it, I have to think that is going to get Roy’s attention.

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on May 9, 2008 9:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, but fans are indirectly

paying for Roy’s salary, if it wasn’t for us, Jerry couldn’t pay him as much as he does. I think what fans think of players obviously is important.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 9, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Greg wants to Help

Tell him to get the QB even more this year.. QB pressure is the cure for holes in the secondary.. Ask the Giants…

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"

by Wmillion on May 9, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in like 12 games (?) he got like 13 sacks

you really couldn’t expect him to get even more pressure on the QB than he already has.

by quincyyyyy on May 9, 2008 10:38 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I sure can

I want him to play 16 games and get like 17 sacks and while he is doing it teach Spencer how to do it!! :)

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"

by Wmillion on May 9, 2008 11:15 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ellis talking

I just wish Ellis would go one year with his mouth closed. Can’t the Biscut speak for himself. I wish JJ would have a clause in Ellis’s contract that would penalize him financially for whining and crying.

by TeamStrike on May 9, 2008 11:27 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hope not

or the cowboys pass rush will suck

"I thought that was bull," Washington said. "What is he 6-13? That's just frustration. He overreacted." - Wash on Sexson

by Longhorn on May 9, 2008 6:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Capt Caveman

I like the thought of getting him on the field at the WILB. I assume he’ll be fighting for playing time with not only Zach but also Kevin Burnett who was Akin’s backup last year. That’s one crowded position. My question is who will backup Brady James?

by BigE on May 9, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ummm.. Greg

Please keep your mouth shut

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on May 9, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

-1

"I thought that was bull," Washington said. "What is he 6-13? That's just frustration. He overreacted." - Wash on Sexson

by Longhorn on May 9, 2008 6:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Greg

I think Jerry is going to let this season play out, if Greg doesn’t show signs of slowing down he will be back..

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"

by Wmillion on May 9, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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