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Cowboys cornerback duo top-5 in NFL?

 

A while ago our very own BTB-regular 5Blings had a FanPost about the teams with the best corners in the league. Today Clark Judge took on DeAngelo Hall’s assertion that he and Nnamdi Asomugha are the best duo of corners in the league. Typical Hall, that guy is always promoting himself – and overrating himself. So Judge presented five teams who might have a better duo of corners and the Cowboys made the list. Even though we made the list, there wasn’t a whole lot of praise for Terence Newman and Pacman Jones (I guess they’re also assuming that Jones will supplant Anthony Henry). Take this quote for instance

"Newman is a good, solid corner," said an AFC player personnel director, "but I don't consider him special. Pacman has special qualities, but he's a ding-a-ling. He's a better player than Bly, but he will take the same chances. Yes, he makes spectacular plays, but he also gives up big plays."

Eh, I consider Newman pretty special. I try not to engage in homerism but in this case I don’t think I am. Newman can cover anybody in this league and although he doesn’t make a lot of interceptions, he rarely gets beat, either. Remember that stretch a couple of years ago when he went for a season-and-a-half of not giving up a TD? That’s pretty special. And how about the time he shutdown Steve Smith so badly that Smith got thrown out of the game in frustration.

Now, with Pacman, it’s still up in the air. He has the natural talent to be as good as most, but we just have to see him do it consistently.

But back to Newman. Maybe that AFC player personnel director should check out this article about Newman that Brandon posted yesterday.

But Terence Newman can match any of these cornerbacks step-for-step, play-for-play. This is a very special football player. The ardent football follower knows him.

‘Nuff said.

*Disclaimer: I'm waiting for Adam "Pacman" Jones to come out and say for himself that he doesn't want to be called Pacman anymore. Until he says it, I'm not listening to reports that he wants that. He said in the Michael Irivn interview that he didn't mind it because that's the nickname his momma gave him. If he says he doesn't want the name Pacman, I really want to call him Donkey Kong Jones instead because I loved that game as a kid and it sounds funny. But I'll go with whatever he wants, i guess.

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Dr. Z isn’t feeling us. 

Dallas is the winter-book favorite. The Cowboys are loading up with all sorts of fancy names -- Zach Thomas, who has already carved out a place for himself in Miami's Hall of Fame, 'Pacman' Jones, whose pardon from the league office seems to be coming an inch at a time. Marion Barber got a new contract that stunned him by its magnificence. So did cornerback Terence Newman. They even gave Terrell Owens enough money to make him happy.

This is their year, right? Sorry, but I just don't feel it.

Who does he feel? The Vikings. I can’t go with that, Tarvaris Jackson is not leading them to the Super Bowl this year.

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This sums up about as succintly as possible my feelings about Chris Canty and Marcus Spears. 

[Chris] Canty blossomed as a run stopper and even showed a little pass-rush prowess last season and is viewed by the staff as a critical piece of the team’s front seven, likely more so than Marcus Spears, who was drafted three rounds before Canty in 2005.

That’s the difference. Spears does an OK job of holding the point of attack against the run, but he rarely makes the tackle and even more rarely puts pressure on the QB. I just think we can do better.

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consider that A. Jones isn't even the #2 yet

and hasn’t played in a year, I think this is all premature, but as long as we’re speculating, it might be interesting to broaden the question a bit—which team has the best trio or quad of corners in the league? Any other team have four corners with as much talent as our top four?

by scottmaui on Jun 20, 2008 6:20 PM CDT   0 recs

co-sign

Another blogger from that article made that same point..

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 20, 2008 9:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That AFC personnel director doesn't think Newman's special?

What would make him think that? Honestly, someone answer that question. Tell me why Newman is not a special corner, and back it up.

by ctrain7379 on Jun 20, 2008 7:06 PM CDT   0 recs

Dude, the same guy

Compared Adam Jones to Dre Bly. What does that tell you about the value of his opinion?

It’s worthless.

by no1cowboysfan on Jun 20, 2008 8:42 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Spears is a leader

We need leaders on the team.

by obiru on Jun 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT   0 recs

Newman is great in coverage...

But he isn’t a playmaker like several other CBs around the league…

I’m assuming by ‘not viewing him as special’ the AFC scouting director is knocking him for having brick hands and a lack of INTs…

by N41D on Jun 20, 2008 10:17 PM CDT   0 recs

In the past

teams could avoid the man and pass to the side Newman was not on – N. Jones, Reeves, a wounded Henry, whomever. This season they’ll either pass to his side or face another quality DB. At that point we’ll stop hearing that Newman isn’t a top tier CB.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 20, 2008 11:16 PM CDT   0 recs

+1

I can’t wait to see this… and throw in a solid front 7 putting Wade’s style of pressure.

Let the fun begin!

Tar Heels football will surprise this year

by DalaiLuke on Jun 20, 2008 11:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I rank Judge as a step below Prisco in my top moron CBS writer's list.

Why is he quoting an AFC player personnel guy when it comes to Newman? What a schmuck. Doesn’t have the sense to ask anyone in the NFC who actually watches Newman regularly.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jun 20, 2008 11:21 PM CDT   0 recs

Dr. Z

Doesn’t know s^%t

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Jun 21, 2008 1:09 PM CDT   0 recs

It's all about not WANTING the Cowboys to win

when you base your prediction on “I have this feeling…” Beyond Dallas, in the NFC you would have to look at NYG, Philly, Seattle, Tampa Bay and Green Bay before you pick a team with an apprentice QB.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 21, 2008 4:26 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dr. Z does know his s&%$

He knows what he is talking about. His weekly column is one of the few worth reading. He has also been a strong advocate for getting Chuck Howley and Cliff Harris in the Hall of Fame, so I don’t think it is fair to say he has an Anti-Cowboys bias. The silver lining is that he is usually wrong in his early Super Bowl picks

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Jun 21, 2008 7:00 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

That's what I meant

:)

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Jun 21, 2008 10:11 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe he "has this feeling" because he doesn't want to jinx us...

Maybe it’s his secret love of the Cowboys, and his wish to motivate the team with a bit of bulletin board material… Maybe it’s a conspiracy… maybe…

Tar Heels football will surprise this year

by DalaiLuke on Jun 23, 2008 9:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

T New

It was my understanding that when they interviewed potential HC’s and DC’s post Parcells al of them indicated that TNew was the best player on the defense and the most important guy on the field defensively.

I think few would argue that DWare has supplanted him, but still I think that says something.

Not sure if that makes him special per se. I would support the notion that only Deion and a handful of guys over time are special (in the same breath that I would support the notion that Emmet, Barry, Walter, Earl, etc were truly special) but I think it certainly makes him a guy who can be a defensive lynchpin.

and sorry I cant provide backup of that quote about TNew. I recall reading it a year ago…..

by 325424 on Jun 22, 2008 9:31 AM CDT   0 recs

Not just that Numbers

but the fact that Jerry and crew willingly paid him at the top end tells you what the current HC (who knows a little something about defenses) and management think of him.

Sometimes I think to some of these guys “special” means a high level of risk taking on the field. When the rest of your secondary is solid, a team can take some calculated risks in hopes of a high payoff – blitzing, jumping routes, etc. When you’re the best player back there and the pass rush has to be more conservative, you have to be more cautious.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 22, 2008 10:17 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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