Is Romo for real is the question....

by pint glass on Jun 22, 2008 12:36 PM CDT

I hear a lot of smack coming out of dallas saying NY will be dangerous if Eli is for real......what? Umm, the last time I checked it was Romo who hasn't yet won a single playoff game, let alone the super bowl. It was Romo who starred in "The Bobble", and it was Eli who outplayed Romo in the playoff game that so broke y'alls heart. So is Romo for real??? I'm not so sure.

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The bobble is a red herring. He bobbled a ball as the holder, not as the QB. Did Eli ever hold? I don’t think so. As for play, look at the stats – Eli did not outplay Romo. And when you are comparing individuals in a team sport, you have to look at individual statistics. By your measure, since Eli’s team won the Super Bowl, he’s now better than his brother and Tom Brady. Pass the hookah, bro. I want me some of that.

You can revise history all you like. The Giants won with a fantastic defensive game plan, great determination and near-perfect execution, not the play of Eli Manning.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 22, 2008 3:59 PM CDT 0 recs

Right and Wrong

They did win with great D but the D played well the whole year. It wasnt until Eli stopped turning the ball over that they started waxing mofo’s. You obviously didnt watch all of the G-men’s playoff games then

by pint glass on Jun 22, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up 0 recs

I don't have anything against the Giants per se

They played well down the stretch and won the Super Bowl. They earned it. But Eli didn’t win it. Not even close. Good, he didn’t lose it. Is that the best yo have to offer? What about the other two games durting the seaon when Romo’s team won? Does that stop counting? Please. Watch a little football and stop already. It’s embarrassing.

Eli may or may not have turned a corner. Through mid-season the media and the fans wanted his head. His defense wins the Super Bowl and now he’s Montana? He may still turn out to be a great QB, but you have zero basis for that now, unless yo want to tell me that Dilfer was better than Marino because Marino didn’t win the big oen. I’m all ears, G-man.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 22, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

yup

Eli earned my respect because he did win the SB and he did prove he could play well under pressure, well enough to win with a great defense, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s an elite QB yet. He still has to prove he can be consistent through the season, and if this experience really moves him to the next level. It may, but it’s too early to say.

by scottmaui on Jun 22, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

And one more, half pint

their QB ratings were both 132 for the game and Romo passed for more yards. What other metric are you using?

It’s a team sport. If you want to find yourself a hero on the NYG team, I’d look at the D Coord and defensive line…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 22, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

+1 dunkman

Giants HAD a great defense and that’s what won the Super Bowl for them (that’s actually what carried their team and got them to the Super Bowl). I would take 9 other QBs before I picked Eli Manning to be on my team.

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Tony Romo
4. Carson Palmer
5. Drew Brees
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Matt Hassleback
9. David Garrard
10. Eli Manning

Oh by the way, Eli’s QB rating was 25th this year (73.9). Here are some notable names that had a better QB rating than Manning:

Kurt Warner
Jay Cutler
Matt Shaub
Chad Pennington
Joey Harrington
Brian Griese
Kyle Boller

by calebsmith on Jun 22, 2008 4:52 PM CDT 0 recs

+1

I think your top 10 list is dead on..

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 22, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up 0 recs

Stop getting caught up in the numbers

and use your eyeballs. Eli proved to be an elite QB this postseason. And your top 10? Its laughable. Your a typical Dallas fan, all about the numbers and not the results.

by pint glass on Jun 22, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up 0 recs

Keep telling yourself that

And maybe you’ll believe it Pint. Numbers mean nothing, riiiiight.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jun 22, 2008 8:03 PM CDT up 0 recs

I used my eyes. Romo's team won two out of three last season

Was Eli on IR for those? Dude, your TEAM won the SB, but that doesn’t mean that everyone on the roster is headed to Canton.

Enjoy the feeling, but stop trying to turn Eli into Peyton.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 22, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up 0 recs

And by your measure

he’s better than Brady and Favre, right? Seriously, you have no good argumetns, so you lay it all back on your team winnig the SB. It’s not enough. Marino was better than Dilfer. Period.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 22, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

I did not say he was better than brady/farve/marino did I?

I said he was an elite QB. And my question was whether Romo is for real. Everybody wants to say he is because of his “numbers” but i say baloney, how does he play when its all on the line; and he plays average at best. period.

by pint glass on Jun 23, 2008 6:21 AM CDT up 0 recs

loser....can't wait til Dallas sweeps the G-men again in this regular season...

G-men will not make the playoffs….count on it.

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Jun 23, 2008 6:22 AM CDT up 0 recs

Half pint your logic is all over the map so let me try one more time

Romo was better than Eli two games during the season. In one game (playoffs) they were the same (identical QB rating, similar yards and completion percentage). Your rationale that Eli was better then is based on the Giants winning the game, not on statistical or other merits (since there aren’t any others). If you use that measure – winning in the playoffs means one QB is superior to the other – then you have said Eli is better than Romo, Favre and Brady. It’s your logic, not mine.

Eli is not elite.No one besides you and other terminally ill homers think he is. He had five good games. In the same number of starts, Romo is significantly better than Eli. I can’t predict what Eli will become. He might in fact become a great QB and last season was his start point. Romo similarly could rise or fall. But right now you have nothing, nada, to support your claims except a deep and unreasoning man-love for Eli. He may talk like Goober Pyle, but I’m pretty sure he’s straight so good luck with that.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 23, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

haha

i love the post, but i dont have man-love for anybody

by pint glass on Jun 24, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up 0 recs

Questin Pint?

I haven’t heard anything about Mario manningham, what’s the word? How has he looked this off-season?

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 24, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

he's looked good from what I've read

by pint glass on Jun 26, 2008 5:55 PM CDT up 0 recs

How well did Eli play when "its all on the line" before last year?

Eli may have improved his smarts last year in the postseason, but he had a reputation for being a bad postseason QB before last season. Romo hasn’t won a playoff game yet, nobody is denying that, but I don’t think Eli would have fared nearly as well in the face of that withering pass pressure (which I fully admit was better than Dallas’). You could make the same argument that Eli is better than Favre and Brady, who also succumbed to the Giants’ defensive pressure. It would be equally silly.

You can believe all you want, but Eli is still the same guy that put up a QB rating below 70 in 7 of 16 regular season games last year (including 5 of the last 7 games, two of which were below 34).

Romo had 4 sub-70 games last year in the regular season, 3 of which came after TO was injured (and they won the other, against Buffalo). Romo is also 0-2 in the playoffs, but he hasn’t played poorly in either game. Frankly, if Crayton played well when it was all on the line, the Cowboys would have moved on last year.

by grapejoos on Jun 24, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

Asante Samuel

If that over hyped and overrated cornerback had actually caught the interception that Eli had thrown, RIGHT TO HIM, then this would be a moot point.

And the incredible play in that last drive? A great escape by Eli followed by a hopeful hail mary pass, that Tyree made the catch of his life on.

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by Brandon Worley on Jun 22, 2008 7:35 PM CDT 0 recs

well, in asante samuel’s defense

his hands are probably the reason why he is playing DB

by Zak on Jun 22, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up 0 recs

Pathetic

Its no fun when you have a dumb troll. No challenge to smack them down at all.
Talk about a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

by burmafrd1944 on Jun 22, 2008 9:56 PM CDT 0 recs

c'mon dude

come up with something better than dumb troll, thats lame. So where is all your wits when it comes to this post?

by pint glass on Jun 23, 2008 6:17 AM CDT 0 recs

You should be on the Giants blog

trying to breathe some life into that dead site. How easy is it to go on a cowboys blog and get everyone riled up with your innane argument that Eli is elite? I guess Trent Dilfer was elite too since his team won a SB.

Look, the Giants are the champs and nothing can change that but that doesn´t take away the fact that you are a douche.

by Billito on Jun 23, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up 0 recs

i'm a douche just b/c i bring up a topic

that you cant stomach? Typical cowgirls fan.

by pint glass on Jun 23, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up 0 recs

No, you´re a douche

because you come onto a cowboys blog and throw out inflammatory comments because your team´s blog sucks and nobody posts on it. You know that until the season starts we have to live with the playoff loss from last year so you come on like a knucklehead saying idiotic things like “Eli is elite”. Then, when we give back logical arguements that you have no answer to, you say things like ¨typical cowgirls fan¨ because you have no logic and no arguements. Add this all together and we come up with you=douche. Now please go cuddle with your Eli doll and leave us alone.

by Billito on Jun 24, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up 0 recs

well he's 10 times better than Eli

and thats on a bad day.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 23, 2008 8:44 AM CDT 0 recs

you are not worth any more effort

Why waste any more time on a loser like you?

by burmafrd1944 on Jun 23, 2008 10:14 AM CDT 0 recs

i'm not the loser, your cowboys

are the losers that havent won a playoff game in 13 years. G-mens playoff record over the last 13 years is like 8-4 or s/t like that. So watch who your calling a loser

by pint glass on Jun 23, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up 0 recs

Go somewhere else

You are an immature, non-thinking homer and you probably have stayed up past your bedtime.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 23, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

Unfortunately, You Are Right

Romo is the one who has to prove himself. Not Eli anymore.

I think Eli’s light went on last year and he emerged from his brother’s shadow.

Having said that, let’s level the playing field a bit here since Romo hasn’t started nearly as many games as Eli. So I would think it is also fair to say that when you compare Eli and Romo at the same point in their starting careers, Romo clearly is the better QB, statistically and from observation.

Again, though, Romo is the one with everything to prove.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Jun 29, 2008 11:49 AM CDT 0 recs

Can't argue with that

And that is probably the right way to think about it. Eli didn’t win in his first couple of trips to the playoffs; in one game he was awful, in another he was pretty good. Romo has had a couple of decent to pretty good playoff games, but neither good enough for victory. At the very least, Romo was undone by the same defense that took down Favre and Brady in great years.

Once Romo has lost more playoff games than Eli, then fair criticism can begin.

by grapejoos on Jun 29, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up 0 recs