Kirwan goes out on a limb and calls it … a tie.

I’d agree with that. But if I were forced to choose a side, I’d have to give the edge to Manning

Romo is 9-1 when passing for over 300 yards. That incredible. Eli and the Giants were not very good until the last few games of the season and the playoffs. They peaked at the right time that’s all. Many of those games it was the defense, not Eli that won it for them. Despite the last minute TD in the first half of our playoff game with the Giants, Eli wasn’t very good. I believe he threw for a mediocre 150 yards that game. The defense and missed opportunities won that game for the Giants, not Eli.

During the season Eli was average or just plain bad . Romo, a undrafted FA has clearly been the better QB over the last year and a half. Throw the Super bowl out the window. Clearly, the defense carried the Giants during the end of the season, playoffs and the Superbowl. When Eli was expected to do too much he was inconsistent and bad.

If anyone heard Keyshawn on Serius Radio the other day he said he would take Romo over Eli despite the Superbowl win. He pointed out some of the same reasons I just did.

I look at it from two perspectives: historical and future. Who has accomplished more to this point in his career? Manning, hands down. Quarterbacks are judged to a great degree by their rings. Conversly, who would you want to quarterback your ballclub for the next 5-10 years? Romo, hands down.

If I could have one quarterback in the league with the ball down six with less than two minutes I’d take Romo. Everytime. If it was 4th and 10 and I needed a first down to keep a big drive alive, I’d choose Romo to make the play.

Although if you were down 3 and needed a field goal, you wouldn’t want him taking the snap.
But I agree with Louie, Romo’s got a brighter future than Eli. Although until he gets a ring, Eli will always (correctly) get the nod.

So Romo is not as good, equally good, and better than Eli? C’mon now. We know how you really feel. I don’t think anyone here would trade Romo for Eli, but I could be wrong.

I think Eli took a big step forward last year, but I don’t know how it will translate going forward. He has to be more confident now, but confidence was not his only issue. He’s a streaky player, so it will be good for NYG if he can become more consistent. Still, they just do not have that dominant a team right now, and they lost their best player this offseason.

NYG are to be taken seriously, but so is every NFC East team, as usual. I have no idea how the teams will finish, but all will be good if healthy.

Because he has a ring? So Trent Dilfer was a better quarterback than Dan Marino??

And what was Eli’s playoff record before last year?

winning the superbowl. I would call holding the opposing team to 14 points winning the supperbowl though. It was the Giants defense that won the superbowl. Not Manning. He’ll fall flat on his face this year, and I’ll just sit back and laugh at all the mediots who couldn’t wait to jump on his band wagon.

Eli’s TEAM played better, but not Eli. He was fine, but nothing spectacular.His QB rating was the same as Tony’s. And Kirwan is coy but in typical fashion, stupid, “Well, if you like stats… ” BS. Romo isn’t throwing at a carnival. He’s competing in the NFL and putting up the numbers.

Winning in the playoffs does not suddenly confer special status. Too many one-hit wonders for me to buy that. It’s play. All the time. Everything that matters says Romo is the better QB, and the only reason we’re talking about this are injuries to TO and Glenn, and brain cramps by guys like Crayton and Reeves.

Interesting points being made here but it made me wonder – if Romo continues to light it up in the regular season but can’t put it together when it counts, we have another Marino on our hands. But if he wins just one ring and flames out the rest of his career…...well I think I’d take that one ring over a decade of Miami-like heartache.

I’m more inclined to believe Eli has gotten over that hump and will be a more consistent QB but he has to win a few games this year in the last 5mins to make it real.

I have to agree with the basic analysis that Romo is a better regular season QB and Eli a better playoff QB, based on what they have proven so far. But I would still choose Tony. Here’s the long version…

Eli has proven he can get to and win the superbowl, under intense pressure and in dramatic fashion. He may not have won the games without a really good defense and other elements, but he also avoided making any major mistakes, which is just as important as making big plays. He stayed mentally composed and made the plays he needed to make to lead his team to victory.

While the blame for the Cowboys’ loss may be fairly spread around (O-line, Reeves, Crayton, TO’s ankle, etc. etc.), the fact is, Tony Romo made some serious mental errors at the end of that game. Basically, he should have thrown the ball away when he was out of the pocket to avoid the sack, and not thrown it away when he was in the pocket and avoid a grounding penalty. Those were pure mental errors. I looked to me like Romo actually got flustered at the end of the game, and lost his focus and leadership because he feared losing and felt it slipping away, and that fulfilled itself, even though they still had a shot to the last play. Those plays alone didn’t cost the game, but they put the team in a more difficult position to make the plays it needed to win, and affected the composure of the whole team. He didn’t exhibit the leadership to really execute in that do or die situation.

Now, he did make some good plays, like the scrambling shuttle pass to 82 was a great play and would have been a highlight if they’d won, and the pass to Crayton was actually on target if he hadn’t hesitated. If Crayton had caught that pass, something that was out of Romo’s control, the Cowboys would have won, and none of this would be a question. But he didn’t, and it is.

And actually, going back the year before, the missed hold was a mental error as well. While it wasn’t at the QB position, so it doesn’t exactly reflect on his QB abilities, but it does raise questions about his general mental discipline in the most clutch of situations.

We’ve seen him in the regular season lead the team in tremendous last-minute game-winning drives, and usually he seems to thrive under pressure. But none of those were do or die season ending situations. It seems like maybe when it doesn’t mean everything he’s able to stay relaxed and stay focused, but he has yet to show that he can totally hold it together and execute when it is all on the line.

Eli, on the other hand, started his hot streak on the last game of the regular season, and has yet shown that he can be consistent throughout the season.

If I had to bet, I think this sb win will give Eli the confidence to become more consistent and a more reliable leader in the regular season.

And if I had to bet, I think Romo has what it takes to come through in clutch situations in the playoffs and take his team all the way to win the SB.

The truth of both may be revealed this season.

And whatever happens this season, I think we have set up a divisional battle between these two potentially great quarterbacks that will last and entertain us for years.

If I had to choose at this point, I think honestly without just being a homer, I would still choose Romo, because I think he has a bigger upside. I think Eli has the potential to be a great quarterback, but even with his superbowl win, I think he’s more likely to be a really solid quarterback but not necessarily an all-time great. Romo, based on his regular season stats and his general skills and playmaking ability, I think has more potential to be an all-time elite quarterback, one of the best to play the game. Hopefully he’ll prove that to us this year.

Tony is better in the regular season and Eli in the post? On their body of work? There’s not nearly enough evidence. Tony starts a partial season and gets his team to the playoffs, starts a full season and sets records, wins the division, etc. I don’t now and never will buy that playoff games are so dramatically different for a guy who scrambles around the pocket and throws a TD or has a miserable performance (Bills game) and still pulls out the win is suddenly “choking” because someone flipped the calendar.

As for Eli, I think he’s fine, but not special. His coaching staff cut the game plan back considerably so that he would not be throwing the deep balls that crushed his confidence all season. They gave him fewer reads and shorter routes and it worked really well. Those are training wheels. Whether he can ride the bike without them, when the D slips or can’t put together stops, remains to be seen.

It’s the math of small numbers and in no way represents Romo’s ability.We might as well argue which rooks are goining to end up in the HOF. Give them both some time. We’ll all know in about 5 years how to label them. You guys want Eli? I can promise you, he strings together three or four bad games (as he did only a few games before December, which no one remembers) , the NYG fans will gift wrap him for you.

Comes down to the playoff game last year. There’s been a lot of arguments for both sides, but I’ll make my point short.

Romo was the better QB all season, Eli flat out average. The playoff game was there for Dallas to take. He made the plays to win. Was it his fault Crayton drops critical passes? No.
Was it his fault Reeves can’t cover his man at the end of the 1st half? No. Was it his fault Flo gets a BS personal foul for blocking Strahan after Romo converts a long 3rd down with a beauty of a pass? No. His mistakes at the very end of the game are not enough to convince me that he’s to blame for the loss, as he shouldn’t have been in that position to begin with based on his play. Not to mention the perfect pass to Crayton in the corner that would have won the game despite all the other breakdowns, I’m not blaming Crayton for that one, but if he reads the coverage the same as Romo and finishes the route who knows.
Take away that win from Eli and give it to Romo if you are counting strictly QB play and suddenly the win-loss ratio up to that point is Romo 1-1 and Eli 1-3.

I don’t see Eli as “clutch”, if anything he’s wildly inconsistent. His WR’s made some incredible plays for him, Tyree should have been the MVP for catching that overthrown pass.

This comparison is so ridiculous, I’m surprised anyone here is giving it legs. Romo is a much better QB, period. I can’t wait until playoff time this season so he can throw the stupid “can’t win a playoff game” moniker (after a whopping 2 starts) off his back and into his detractors faces.