is amazing…as are Shiner’s beers

Joos, I agree: Fat Tire is one of the best beers out there. Up until recently, they were not selling it east of the Mississippi. However, I can now find it in selected areas around Milwaukee, WI. Seems New Belgium Brewing Co is doing a slow rollout eastward. They also have a few other less popular, but equally tasty beers.

Fat Tire was available in Chicago in early 2008. Someone from here in WI was heading down that way, so I got a case. I couldn’t believe my lucky stars: my favorite team ready to make a playoff run and my favorite beer, all merging into one glorious Sunday. Alas, the Giants spoiled the day.

Even though it’s gross if you get it at the downtown mainstays (seriously, wtf is up with the cheez wiz, I don’t care if it’s the traditional way, actual cheese is so much better), I give Philly kudos for the concept.

A couple of friends of mine have a loft in Chinatown in Philly, it seems like a decent place to live. But with my sports team allegiances (Cowboys, Braves, Capitals) I really, really hate every Philly team but the 76ers.

Are you saying Philly isn’t a winer?

It wasn’t just a few fans that were booing when Michael Irvin was carried off on a stretcher. It was the large majority. That is an unbelievable lack of class. I cannot imagine that happening at the football stadiums I frequent in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Arizona, etc. There are other examples of very poor behavior, and that jail was not placed in the Vet on accident. Perhaps it is an East Coast thing, but by Midwestern standards, Philly fans are scum. The fact that they are dedicated scum makes no difference. I despise them above all others.

700 Level, you seem like a decent guy (or perhaps gal). But it will take many more of you, and years of good fan behavior in general to change my opinion of Philly fans….not that you will care about my opinion, but since you are visiting our blog I thought I’d share it.

I’m going to just say it: Dallas fans are pretty fair-weather (in terms of the city as a whole). Loving the Cowboys is an honored tradition there, but when the Cowboys are good, it elevates to a whole new level of insanity (I was there last weekend and on Sunday night like every local station had a 30 minute show about OTAs).

Philly has seriously dedicated fans. They’re so tortured that they’re truly insufferable (and sorry, this is not some base generalization based on them booing Irvin’s injury and Santa Claus, I endured an NHL playoff series this year against the Flyers where the entire arena chanted “F* Ovechkin” for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON), but their dedication cannot be questioned. I admire that about Philly fans. But the dedication combined with frustration leads to lashing out against opposing players and fans that really makes the city and its fans look bad. Philly has a lot of great fans (whom I respect very much), but it has more rude, obnoxious, violent, and classless fans than any other city, and that’s just a fact. I’m not saying all stereotypes are based on truth, and I know Philly fans (good and bad) are tired of getting smeared with that brush, but there is a reason why fans in every other sports market in America believe this particular one to be true. I realize this is the result of having consistently good teams that can’t get over the championship hump, and I know that’s extremely frustrating (Cowboys fans, imagine the last 2 years stretched out over 48), but it’s not an excuse.

All that said, I would love for the Cowboys to have had the playoff success (limited though it may be) that the Eagles have had this decade. But have all the fun with the 11 year thing that you can this year, because we all know it’s coming to an end this postseason.

You are saying the grand scheme not in the last 6-7 years..

I hear you, I can admit Philly fans are pretty dedicated.

Dallas might be the most hated team in football though.

As a person that was certain the Boys would beat the Giants in the playoffs, can’t argue that. Expectations are getting a little out of control, but winning a playoff game isn’t too much to ask.

I’m curious, do you honestly think the Cowboys won’t win a single playoff game this year? I’m not sure what to make of the Eagles this year. They always scare me and are always a threat but they just give McNabb no help and he gets hurt every year now. How has DeSean Jackson looked in OTAs?

I think that a championship would be a great thing for Philly. Look at Red Sox fans – they won one and all of the existential angst melted away. Then they they won a bunch more and the whole city is insufferable in the opposite direction.

I think Philly just needs a championship because it’s simply wrong that an entire generation of great sports fans could go their entire lives without a championship.

The Phillies have a shot this year, I think. As long as it’s not the Eagles or Flyers, I can deal.

Nothing says opposing fans can’t have a contentious chat without things getting ugly.

I understand your position on TO. I hated him before he was a Cowboy, and he definitely screwed the Eagles over like few players have ever done. I don’t know that Reid and higher ups handled him the right way, but the Eagles are no-nonsense to a fault at times. At least they’re consistent.

I’m not going to label Romo a choker because he wasn’t able to beat the Giants D. A couple of guys named Brett Favre and Tom Brady were undone by the same defense in a similar manner, and I don’t think they’re chokers. I think the Seattle game was more of a “choke” situation, but I don’t hold it against Romo because he never should have been holding in the first place (and the team should have gotten that 1st down). That said, Romo made some mental mistakes in the Giants game, and I think he’ll improve them. I also think he’ll get more help from his receivers when TO is healthy/Crayton catches the damn ball.

I unfortunately must agree that if the Boys don’t win a playoff game again (unless it’s due to a Romo injury…knock on wood), heads will roll. Then again pretty much every Cowboys fan knows Wade is gone after this year no matter what happens.

By the way, I don’t think McNabb is a choker. You can fairly criticize him for the Super Bowl loss, I guess, but it’s not like they lost to the Giants or something. I think Philly fans are actually way too hard on the guy. The one year he had a truly good WR to throw to, they almost won the Super Bowl (and I know TO was out for the playoffs, but still). The way Philly has penny-pinched at the WR position is kind of tragic. And I definitely still feel for McNabb over the TO thing. That wasn’t fair.

I kind of hoped McNabb would have left Philly, just to get appreciated elsewhere (and not facing him twice a year would be ok with me too).

Romo is the exact opposite of a choker, there isn’t a qb in the league I’d rather have under center with the game on the line than Romo. He’s like they say, as cool as the other side of the pillow.

Just because he failed to win his first 2 playoff games means nothing. It took Aikman 4 seasons to win his first and Manning 6 seasons, I guess those guys are chokers too, huh?

Was his lack of urgency in the two minute drill. It was like he thought he had all day to march down the field to score, and just ran out of time.