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Terry Glenn takes another step back from the ledge

Calvin Watkins reports some movement in the TG situation (since the previous equilibrium). Glenn has rehired his agent and is talking with the Cowboys again, and Jerry is sounding quite amenable.

Wide receiver Terry Glenn is speaking with Dallas Cowboys officials again in the hopes of returning.

Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones said he's spoken to Glenn and his agent, James Gould.

"Terry is someone I have a lot of interest in," Jones said Friday night. "We worked well together last year. We will sit down here and look at how he fits and what we can do with him as a player this year."

[...]

Glenn... has reached out to Jones and spoken with wide receivers coach Ray Sherman.

The Cowboys hope to settle the Glenn situation by training camp in late July, so Jones said it ends any search for a veteran wide out.

Seems like it's almost become cw in the media that Glenn is unlikely to return with this contract dispute, but I never really bought that. It always seemed like negotiating tactics to me. It's natural TG wants to try to get as much as he can (especially if he thinks this is his last year), including not having to take the risk of re-injury on himself. And his frustration if he felt like the deal was actually different from what he expected when he went to sign the papers. So he expressed his frustration in the media and tried to play hard to get.

But as Timmy Mac says, "He's clearly come to the realization that he has precious little leverage against the Cowboys and isn't going to help himself by negotiating via the media."

And maybe Jerry knows something about his knee that we don't know, but if it were really a deal breaker they would probably just cut him already. So it seems most likely that they're just looking at the known risk of his knee prognosis and making a calculated bet.

Maybe Glenn will just sign the split contract, or maybe Jerry will offer a compromise that gives him a bit more. (Jerry's the one with the leverage, so as nice as he talks I definitely don't see Glenn getting his full contract). But I think the most likely scenario has Glenn wearing the star for the season. 

After all, even if he could get a contract somewhere else, which is questionable, why would he want to go anywhere else when, 1. he knows this offense, and 2. he would have a way better shot to get a ring here than anywhere else he might play.

Meanwhile, Jerry and everyone else in the known sports world has been looking for the #2 receiver to work opposite T.O.—if Glenn can't or doesn't play. But if he can and does play... it's a moot point, and Jerry already has his receiver. 

How good can Glenn be? T-New has his opinion:

Rob (Dallas): Who has been the toughest receiver for you to cover so far in your career? 

 Terence Newman: (1:38 PM ET ) Terry Glenn. 

[...]

Rob (Boston): Terry Glenn? Really? You're just saying that. 

 Terence Newman: (1:41 PM ET ) Nah, he's one of the toughest receivers I have ever faced. He comes out of his breaks better than anybody in the league. He has cat-like quickness. He just understands the game. 

Coming from one of the best cover corners in the league, that is high praise indeed. And even if he is "just saying it" as a teammate to some extent, he's still saying it for a reason. Because he really believes in Glenn's ability, and wants him on his team for their Superbowl run.

There is no question in my mind that if his knee holds up and he's able to perform anywhere close to his previous level, Glenn is a damn potent weapon, and really exactly what we need to complete this offense. Try to double T.O. and see how Romo->TG can slice you apart!

So to me it seems likely that Glenn will play, and the bigger unknown than the contract situation is the knee situation. And that will remain an unknown for every single play for every game for the whole season. Until it gives out, or hasn't (hopefully) at the end of the season.

And on that subject, Watkins offers this little tidbit at the end:

[...] Doctors told Glenn he needs microfracture surgery, but the receiver said an MRI taken a few weeks ago revealed his knee is fine.

"Fine." Is that the official technical medical prognosis, lol? Glenn saying his own knee is "fine" even as an interpretation of an MRI only goes so far, given the nature of his injury, but still, it is encouraging. And it seems to me Jerry wouldn't even be sending these kinds of signals—"Terry is someone I have a lot of interest in"—unless he has faith that the knee has a decent chance of holding up. Granted, half a mil he's risking is peanuts in his world, but so is the 1.24 mil difference the dispute is over. 

If and when he does play, I think they will tend to use Glenn cautiously. Even though he'll be the #2 receiver, he won't be an every down receiver. He'll be used when the situation or matchup is most advantageous. They'll want to ensure as much as possible that he can go the duration, and I think they'll also want to give Hurd and Austin plenty of chances to gain experience and step up. But having Glenn there as a veteran receiver along with T.O. to help mentor them and set an example can only be good for them in the long term. I'm really excited to see what the younger receivers can do, but I will sure take Glenn in there to the fullest extent he can do it.

I can see a scenario that is both best for this year having the depth of an elite veteran receiver working across from T.O. with two dynamic third-year receivers to back him up, and best for the future as well, as the youngsters learn in the presence of dual greatness and the veterans help guide the transition to the next generation.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I really hope that Terry Glenn has a productive season with the Dallas Cowboys, and goes out (if it is his last season) earning a ring. Only time will tell, but with this news, that seems a little more likely.

ps - check out this discussion (via DC Fanatic) between Galloway and Ed Werder on the subject of Joe Horn. Informative and amusing. At the end after all this discussion Werder finally says, "I still think the best solution is Terry Glenn." Galloway obviously disagrees, but when pressed he has to admit he'd rather have Terry Glenn than Joe Horn. 

 

Poll
Terry Glenn in 2008 season
Doesn't play at all
1 votes
Plays for someone other than the Cowboys
2 votes
Plays less than 8 games for the Cowboys
12 votes
Plays more than 8 games but less than the full season for the Cowboys
8 votes
Plays the full season for the Cowboys
1 votes
Gets a superbowl ring with the Cowboys
14 votes

38 votes | Poll has closed

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i hope glenn comes back with dallas

cuz thats just another old receiver that they can add to their already old WR’s. Giants DB’s shut down dallas’ receivers all day long in the playoff game and they will do the same in 2008. Buy some butter and powdered cheese and get your popcorn ready.

by pint glass on Jun 28, 2008 7:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh we'll have our popcorn ready alright!

already old? You can only be referring T.O. Widely regarded as at least the #2 WR in the league (behind only Moss, which is even arguable), and even at 34 is considered more fit than most players. I’ll take him over Burress and Toomer any day, and so would any coach in the league.

Giants DB’s shut down Dallas’ receivers all day long in the playoff game? Kinda funny, when you look at the actual stats. Eli had 163 yards passing, Romo had 201. Toomer had 80 yards, Witten had 81. Smith had 48 yards, Owens had 49. Boss had 19, Glenn had 30. Burress had 5 yards, Crayton had 27. Plus the Crayton drop and hesitation, and the TO overthrow, were both self-induced mistakes, not the Giants shutting anything down. The Giants ended up with the points which is what really counts, but specifically in regards to the passing game, the reality is that the Cowboys shut the Giants down as much than the other way around.

And they really shut them down good in both regular season games, right? When the Boys put up 67 points on them in two games? lol.

With Adam Jones and Jenkins added in the secondary instead of Reeves and Nate Jones, methinks the Gnats are the ones having a hard time in the air this year.

by scottmaui on Jun 28, 2008 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is great analysis

I agree with your point that the Cowboys must feel that there is a 50% chance or better that Glenn can play effectively this season or he’d be gone already.

Is the Joe Horn deal a deliberate leak to encourage Glenn to get off the dime? You have to wonder.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 28, 2008 7:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My thinking

my gut says it is right at 50 otherwise they wouldn’t have asked for him to sign the waiver. As for the Giants corners they didn’t shut anyone down we beat ourselves by dropping balls we shouldn’t have dropped.

Your pass rush is what carried you, not that patch work Defensive secondary, you will be exposed without Strahan and Wilson. You lost your best D-lineman and your best safety, you need to worry about who is going to step in for those guys.

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 28, 2008 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just ignore this tired troll

All he has are lame, chest pounding arguements trying to stir up the blog.

For this post, I have to say TG is now the enigma of the upcoming season. Nobody knows if he will play with Dallas and/or how effective he will be. For me, the best case scenario would be that he signs and starts but then Hurd and Austin come out of the gates so fast that we suddenly have a logjam at WR and can use TG on passing downs only.

by Billito on Jun 28, 2008 12:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree, Blogger Formerly Known as King

He knows very little about his own team, let alone others. My guess is that he sits in his parents’ basement playing Madden 2000 and thinks he’s seeing real games.

I think that would be the best case scenario. Use Glenn situationally and allow the young players to see the field. My guess is one of the three – Hurd, Miles or Stanback will step forward. Hurd has already shown the ability to make tough catches in pressure situations, so he’s my lead dog. Miles has the strength and speed, so he’s got the potential. And Stanback is supposed to be crazy in the open field. SAhould be an interesting ride. Crayton probably chaffed a great deal from his sub-par play in the playoffs and I think he’ll come out with a determination that will serve the offense well.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 28, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, ideal situation

it would be an ideal situation to have glenn healthy and able to play productively while having Crayton continue to improve and have Hurd and/or Austin (or even Stanback, although I think that’s less likely this year) have a breakout season and end up with a logjam at the position. Can you imagine a 5-wide set of TO, TG, Crayton, Hurd, Austin? the potential mismatches…

and there’s always Polk and Amendola, although if Glenn is on the roster one or both of them probably isn’t…

by scottmaui on Jun 28, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good post Scott

I think Glenn will sign, and will be used sparingly throughout the year. The whole Joe Horn thing makes sense as a bargaining move by Jerry to get Glenn back to the negotiating table.

I still feel good about the receivers group even if Glenn can’t make it. TO, Witten and Crayton with Hurd, Austin (hopefully), and Stanback. The Cowboys can stash Amendola, Bradford, and/or Jefferson on the PS. Plus 2 guys not mentioned: Felix Jones can catch, and Pacman might get a chance to show what he can do on offense. There are a lot of options on the current roster.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jun 28, 2008 4:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I also think the Cowboys think Glenn is a better than 50% chance. They could think he’s a 100% sure thing and it’s still a smart business move for them, as long as they don’t think another team would pay him more guaranteed money.

I’m not so sure we can stash Amendola on the practice squad. The second coming of Welker will be too much for some team to resist, though if he were really the second coming of Welker, he wouldn’t be headed to the PS.

I think Austin will be the young WR who steps up to be a regular contributor this year, just a gut feeling. He has the assets you can’t learn. You can learn to catch and run routes better, and it sounds like he has.

by grapejoos on Jun 28, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mahalo both

I was just going to post the same thing about Amendola. Not sure he would last on the PS, or get snatched up by another team. After all the initial excitement about Amendola from that first OTA week, he’s one guy that I’d like to have in the pipe for 2-3 years down the road.

Plus there’s Daniel Polk, who seems to have potential as well.

by scottmaui on Jun 28, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Amendola is not going to make the PS, but I haven’t heard much about him in OTA’s or Mini-Camp

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 28, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Amendola is going to make the active roster

From Jerry’s comments this is probably why he thinks Terry doesn’t fit in anymore. Amendoala and players like Austin are making Jerry realize there are other players on this team that will make a impact this season. TG is only going tie up a roster spot and hurt the development of the other WRs. Time to cut the cord on TG and let these young guys play. IMO, TG is cut with in the next two weeks.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Jun 30, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's out if Glenn signs?

Right now we’ve got Owens, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, Stanback and Amendola (if we were to keep 6 wideouts). Assuming we sign Glenn, and he makes it through training camp, who do you cut?

With the uncertainty around Glenn’s knee I can’t see us going into the season with only 5 WRs on the roster so I think only one of the guys listed above is in jeopardy. Owens, Crayton and Hurd are locks so that would mean parting ways with Austin, Stanback or Amendola.

If Amendola has a good camp there’s no way you’ll be able to stash him on the practice squad.

The Red Ball Express will be rolling this year!

by BulletBob on Jun 29, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

don't forget Daniel Polk

Amendola is a pet cat, but Polk is going to be fighting for that last spot as well. Basically it seems like both of them are going to be fighting for Stanback’s spot, but given how high the coaches seem to be on Stanback’s potential, sadly I think if Glenn makes the Roster it is unlikely either of them does. And you’re right, I don’t think Amendola lasts on the practice squad.

by scottmaui on Jun 29, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Bradford and Jefferson have the edge over Polk, if any of them make the roster. Out of all the undrafted WR’s, he seems to have the longest odds against making it. But he’d be a prime candidate for the PS if the coaching staff likes him.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jun 30, 2008 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amendola is the odd man out for sure

no way he beats out Austin or Stanback, just won’t happen.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 29, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would be mad

If we cut either one for him..

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 29, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless Glenn is out or

there is a serious injury in camp of one of them, the 6 WRs WILL be T.O., TG, Crayton, Hurd, Austin and Stanback.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 29, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

The Boy’s would be hard pressed to keep 7 WR’s.

TO, Crayton, Glenn, Hurd, Stanback, Austin is six.

For Amendola to make it, he’d have to beat out Austin or get the 6th spot due to injury.

He’d also have to excel on ST. I just don’t see him making it. I know a lot of guys like him because of his underdog status and the similarities to Welker. But, if he was as good as Welker, he would have been drafted. I think if he impresses during pre-season he will get put on PS. It’s a risk, but what else can the team do.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jun 30, 2008 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

special teams

in another year Amendola might have had an extra shot to make the roster because of his punt return skills, but with the addition of Adam Jones, we just went from okay to excellent at that position. Amendola has also returned some kickoffs, I think, but there we have Felix Jones and Jenkins. And we still have Crayton and Austin as backups, who aren’t home run threats, but are decent and experienced. And I don’t really know how else he could make a contribution on special teams that would add much to his value above other players.

Hurd and Austin are already pretty much a lock, as the team isn’t going to abandon them after putting two years into them just when they are expected to really start contributing, and when they have both shown substantial development.

So if Glenn plays, then unless Stanback stumbles badly, or Amendola really really shines as a receiver at camp to the degree that the ‘Boys just can’t bear parting with him and wedge in a 7th receiver, something I agree they would be hard pressed to do, I just don’t see it happening.

My bet is he ends up on the PS. And maybe the team will downplay his abilities and say how disappointed they are with him, that he just barely made the PS, and hope they can fool everybody else into not taking him out from under them ;-)

by scottmaui on Jun 30, 2008 3:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TG is out

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Jun 30, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

poll

kinda late but I added a poll for entertainment value…

by scottmaui on Jun 29, 2008 5:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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