Not a Horn of Plenty

by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on Jun 30, 2008 12:07 PM CDT

From my local paper, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

Despite veteran wide receiver Joe Horn wanting to be traded, Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff said there is nothing doing on that front. Horn's agent has been cleared to gauge interest in Horn with other teams but, as of now, there are no takers.

The Dallas Cowboys, who could be in need of a veteran wide receiver if Terry Glenn (knee) isn't medically cleared, were one of the teams queried by Horn's agent, but there hasn't been any talk between Dallas and Atlanta about a deal.

"I've made no contact with Dallas or they with me," Dimitroff said in a text message.

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I was going to spend some time thoroughly trashing this article, but I just didn’t have the patience to do it. Maybe you guys can do it for me in the comments.

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MB3, fantasy stud?

Outlook: Barber is going to be a stud this year. He will fall to the end of the first round, but he might have more upside than Clinton Portis, Frank Gore and Larry Johnson based on the offense he plays in and his past performance. If Barber is there starting at No. 7 overall in the first round, think about drafting him in that spot.

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Rosenberg's article makes no sense

why would Goodell wince if the Cowboys win with Pacman because it’s his decision to reinstatement him or not. If he doesn’t want him playing in the league, he won’t reinstatement him, however if he does, he should perfectly fine with whatever achievements Pacman accomplishes on the field.

BTW, the Cat will steal many carries from MB3 this season, so I’m not sure his fantasy value will be any higher this season.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 30, 2008 12:40 PM CDT 0 recs

MB3

Marion in my estimation will go for 1200-1400 yds and 12+ TD’S., and 15-20 catches for 150 yds.
That should have him in the 1st round in most 12 round drafts.

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 30, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up 0 recs

I'm going to predict a little less for MB3

Because of the Cat, I’ll go with 1,000-1,200 yds and 10-12 TDs rushing, with 250 yds and 3 TDs receiving.

I personally think he’s 2nd rd material in most fantasy leagues.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 30, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up 0 recs

ok

One thing with a RB who is in offense that moves the ball is the cheapy TD. He could be close to 20 TD’s, becaue he is the goal line back.

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 30, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up 0 recs

If the Cowboys were a running team

I would tend to agree, but the Cowboys throw too much for MB3 to get monster stats. The Cowboys fantasy stars will be Romo, T.O., Witten and Folk and I’m hoping their D as well.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jun 30, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up 0 recs

true

I got Marion in the 8-10 range for RB’s..

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 30, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

+1

I’m a fantasy guru and that’s about right were his numbers should fall. Maybe a little less yards and about 12-15 TD’s. If Felix Jones comes on it could be less. Felix could get 7 to10 TD’s himself.

LT and Peterson will battle it out for the top spot in Fantasy Football. If I had the #1 pick I would probably go with Peterson. I’m not impressed with San Diego’s OL and receivers which means more pressure on LT to produce. He is another year older also. The Vikings OL is very good and Peterson is a stud.

MB3 should be a 2nd round pick, but some will take him in the first round depending on how many teams in a league and the lineups configurations.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Jun 30, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think you still have to go LT first overall

The primary objective with a first round pick is to get a sure thing. AD could get hurt, and his production was very erratic last year when healthy. You need a guy that will get you 10 points every week if you are picking 1st overall, and LT will give you that every time.

An argument can be made for Peterson, and I’m sure Peterson will have bigger games, but I think you gotta go with the durability and consistency of LT.

by grapejoos on Jun 30, 2008 10:01 PM CDT up 0 recs

+1

LT for sure, he doesn’t share carriers, and you can pencil LT in for 50+ catches..

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 30, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think LT is going to be sharing more this year

than he ever has. He is getting older and he is going to break down. This may have been a sign last season. Peterson plays behind a better OL and in a weaker conference. I’ll take Peterson if I have the #1 pick.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Jul 1, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up 0 recs

LT

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/sortableStatsTeam?div=NFL&stype=defense&stable=rushing&stat=rushYdsGm&dir=ascending&season=regular

LT plays against 28th, 30th, 31st worst Rush D’s in the league, plus who will he be sharing carries with? Put it down LT 1400+ yds Rushing 15+td, 50+ Catches..

DONE.

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jul 1, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up 0 recs

yeah, last year

this year is a whole different year. Those teams might be a lot better on defense. You can’t go by last season stats. San Diego plays in a tougher conference. There is no debating that.

Peterson is going to surpass LT on TD’s this season mark it down!

Peterson is going to have 1800+ yards and 20+ TD’s this season. He will be the #1 RB in fantasy.

DONE.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Jul 1, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up 0 recs

I sure hope your right

Peterson was my keeper in my keeper league :)

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jul 1, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

I agree

this will be a more diverse offense, and likely more effective overall.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 30, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think Bubble Butt will get too much time as a slot receiver and STer

to carry the rock any more than 10 carries a game on average (but prolly 8). I expect Barber to get about 18 carries a game. Barber will prolly average 5 ypc. I’ll bump him up 0.2 due to Hudson Houck’s improvements on the o-line. So Barber will probably end up with around 1400 yards and about 17 tds, but probably with less receiving yards due to Bubble Butt.

by quincyyyyy on Jun 30, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up 0 recs

I think the author is just trying to draw some traffic

from reliable cowboy’s fans and haters. Who would read it if it was about the Bills?

by BigE on Jun 30, 2008 1:16 PM CDT 0 recs

It appears that Fox writer is from Detroit

The guy is probably just jealous. Those Lions fans are a sorry bunch. I feel more sorry for the guy than mad.

by quincyyyyy on Jun 30, 2008 1:41 PM CDT 0 recs

Yeah, he used to write for the Free Press.

"Jerry Jones offers more second chances than a tent revival." -- Kevin Sherrington, The Dallas Morning News

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by silverblue5 on Jun 30, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up 0 recs

This is why I hate "general sports" columnists...

There’s just too much info in sports to be an expert of everything. There’s not enough time to keep on top of every team, every player, every new development, every trend, etc.

So what do they do? They fish for obvious generalities, rehash them and blow them out of proportion. They don’t have time to properly research every article or column they write (God forbid they have a little journalistic integrity). Instead, they take what little nuggets of truth (or speculation) they gleam from the 15 minutes they watched of PTI the night before in a bar with the sound turned off, and turn it into 2000 words ready for Monday’s morning edition.

This is why general sports columnists are becoming more and more sparse … at least via print or traditional media. In today’s world, why would I shell out 35 cents for the morning paper to read some jackass’ opinion about a subject I’m more knowledgeable than him about? How much is this dude going to know about the merits of having a receiving halfback in a West Coast offense, or whether the NFL should abandon the “force out” reception rule, when he was reporting on Croatian figure skaters the week before? No one has that much free time to keep abreast on so many issues.

Instead, I can sit my keester at home, log onto my favorite blogs, read the opinions of dudes not unlike myself who obsess over the tiniest details of their favorite teams, players and sports. Instead of suffering through the “Reader’s Digest” or “US Weekly” version of events, I can converse with like-minded individuals who know just as much as I do, if not more, than the subject they report.

Bottom line: general sports columnists are stretched out too thin to the point where they are no longer qualified to attribute themselves as an expert in ANY subject.

by no1cowboysfan on Jun 30, 2008 2:34 PM CDT 0 recs

Mercy, that was quite a rant

by no1cowboysfan on Jun 30, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up 0 recs

Seriously

Sounds like someone with no material and needed to produce a story. Why doesn’t someone do a piece on Vick and what he is up to, I would be intersted in that.

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 30, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up 0 recs

But really really true

they hit a deadlione and regurge something Cowherd said…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 30, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up 0 recs

Barber will be better than last year

Until the “rookie” proves he can protect the ball and keep Romo’s grass stains to a minimum, look for Barber to shoulder more of the load (including recepts) than last year.

by Doomsday on Jun 30, 2008 3:33 PM CDT 0 recs

THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS

And Jerry has signed lot of guys with questionable character.

HOWEVER, Dallas is the only team not to have had a player arrested since Profootball Talk started its “days without an arrest meter.” So have we signed some guys others would touch – yes. But once on the roster, niether they nor or other guys have gotten into trouble.

So does Jerry have a magic system? No. But up until now he has had an effective one.

by 325424 on Jun 30, 2008 7:15 PM CDT 0 recs

Do you have the link

to Days without an Arrest Meter?

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 30, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

Days without an arrest

http://www.profootballtalk.com/
Then click on Turd Watch
then “Police blotter” for a list
or “Standings” if you want to keep score

by CounterEMF on Jun 30, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up 0 recs

Seems like they haven't been keeping score for long...

KC has a 0 in the standings, but I’m pretty sure Jared Allen was arrested for DUI within the last 2 years when with them.

by grapejoos on Jun 30, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up 0 recs

But seriously

P/A Jones has never been a locker room issue. EVER. Zach is all class. TO is now a team leader. Tank left no bitter taste in anyone’s mouth in Chicago, so who exactly is about to ‘splode? It’s a lame story line. These guys are not a danger to themselves or others…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jun 30, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up 0 recs

It's even bigger than that

The Cowboys haven’t just kept their noses clean – they have taken malcontents and troublemakers from other teams and made them model citizens. So far, the Cowboys have actually been a net positive in terms of lawless behavior over the past couple of years if you credit them for keeping Tank (and hopefully Pacman) on the straight and narrow. TO was no criminal, but in many ways his transformation is the most remarkable.

by grapejoos on Jun 30, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up 0 recs

yes sir

The true Dallas fans know what is going on…

"Why everything that's supposed to be bad, Make me feel so good?"

by Wmillion on Jun 30, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up 0 recs

+1

that’s a great point. Dallas gets a bad rap because we are willing to take trouble players-whether locker room or personal life-but the results have been nothing but positive in recent years, and a net plus for the league.

by scottmaui on Jul 1, 2008 11:45 PM CDT up 0 recs