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Jerry confirms trade still possible

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If you didn't see Jerry Jones being interviewed this past weekend, he confirmed a trade during camp is a distinct possibility.  Said the Cowboys were over stocked in some positions and would be open to talk player trades.

If I had to guess who could be traded it would be Spears followed by Ellis. 

Where?

Miami ofcourse.

They are short one experienced DE when they traded Taylor to the Redskins. I would'nt at all be surprised it one of these players were traded their. 

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Who would you say we would trade for

if it is Miami?

"Out of need springs desire, and out of desire springs the energy and the will to win."

by DaveTroll on Jul 21, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

really?

i mean i guess if they believe in spencer(which i do) but right now in this league you cant have too many pass rushers.. idk i just dont see anything happening. I wouldnt want to mess with this core until they win when it counts

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Jul 21, 2008 8:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I could see Spears being traded to Miami, hatcher is ready to take over his spot

And Spears wont be resign after this year.

I also could see Oglesby traded too

by Deke on Jul 21, 2008 8:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I think if Spears would get traded,

we’d see Rat go back to end, and it would mean the team was real confident in Tank at NT. Not something I would mind seeing. I also wouldn’t be shocked to see some of the DB or WR “depth” sent out of town.

by Mandmeisterx on Jul 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Spears wouldn't be traded to Mia

After the parting shots he made upon Bill’s departure.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739

by BudLight on Jul 22, 2008 7:32 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Anybody take Hatcher straight up for Ted Ginn?

That’s a DE Parcells likes.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Bigrigga31 on Jul 22, 2008 9:16 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I disagree

How can you say he sucks, but yet rave about Stanback?

I would take Ginn in heartbeat for hatcher.. No Hesitation..

Move Rat to LE, Tank at NT, Canty-DONE

Ginn is a faster Terry Glenn..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ginn will be nothing more than a punt returner

and certainly nothing special like Hester. He’ll turn out to be a bust considering where he was selected in the draft.

His receiving skills have a lot to be desired, to me he’s a fast guy and nothing more.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 12:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Only if he stays in MIA

He’s Santonio Holmes with better speed…if he’s in the right system I think he’ll flourish

"Will the Rangers ever win...past July?" - Peter Schmidt

by TheJeezus on Jul 22, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

please..Ginn isn't half the receiver

that Holmes is. As a matter of fact, both Holmes and Gonzalez are much better receivers than Ginn who was one of the most overrated receivers to ever come out of college in a long time.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Based on what exactly?

One year as a pro lining up on the same side of the ball as Cleo Lemon, Marty Booker and Jesse Chatman? Speed receivers need threats around them in order to thrive. Otherwise all they see is safety help over the top. See, Santana Moss.

"Will the Rangers ever win...past July?" - Peter Schmidt

by TheJeezus on Jul 22, 2008 1:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Agreed

Miami reached on Ginn big time in the draft, but he hasn’t had enough of a chance to show whether or not he’ll be a productive NFL receiver yet. He’s certainly a speed guy, but some speed guys have productive careers.

by grapejoos on Jul 22, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

one guy

Had Cleo Lemon throwing him the ball and other Big Ben..

Give Ginn time to develop and is going to be a really good 2.

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 2:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

based upon what I saw of him at OSU

it was crystal clear to me that Holmes and Gonzalez were the better receivers in that offense.

Guys like Ginn are always overrated because scouts and teams are infatuated with speed, but that alone won’t get you far at all in the NFL.

Just ask guys like Troy Williamson and Alexander Wright. older Cowboys fans should remember that draft bust from Auburn.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 3:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

nice

Just write the guy off without even giving him oppurtunity. Just from what I saw last year, he is no Troy Williamson. Troy can’t see..

I would be willing to take a chance on him and give up Hatcher, like I said no hesitation.. You place that guy in the slot and he kills for us..

Santanio Holmes and Anthonly Gonzalez are both good WR’s, so saying he is behind them at WR really isn’t making a statement..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 3:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

you'll be eating those words this year

Hatcher is primed for a breakout year. No way would I trade him for a project receiver, that’s what Ginn is, a project who needs alot of work, he’s horrible running routes. Right now he’s nothing more than a kick returner at best..

by Deke on Jul 22, 2008 3:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

well said Deke

trading Hatcher for Ginn would be one of the dumbest moves Jerry could ever do, simply asinine if you ask me.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 4:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I disagree

I think hatcher is a above average DE who hasn’t shown he can prefrom as a starter..

If they both had break out years, I think Ginn’s year would give his team a better chance to win then Hatcher.

You are talking about a back-up like he is an All-Pro.. Hilarious..

trading Hatcher for Ginn would be one of the dumbest moves Jerry could ever do, simply asinine if you ask me.

Calm Down I didn’t say trade him for MB3..

There is no way Miami would trade Ginn for a back-up DE in 3-4..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 4:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If you want to trade Spears, I could along with that

Hatcher played pass rushing defensive end in the nickel, thats a four man line, not end in the 3-4. The kid came from Grambling, not exactly the hot bed for elite players. The kid has all the measureables, a high character guy and a ton of upside, he’s shown flashes of it in games last year, this is his third year and I believe he will be a major factor this year, he will push Spears for his starting job at defensive end in the 3-4.

Ginn has along way to go to beany kind of receiver and was thee dumbest Miami pick of the draft last year. Way to ealrly to draft him when they had alot more pressing needs, like Quarterback.

by Deke on Jul 22, 2008 4:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Jumping for Joy

If we could trade Spears and 4th for Ginn, maybe even a 3rd.

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 4:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Parcells and Co. probably agree with you

about Ginn being drafted too high. That’s why I thought they might put him on the trading block for one of Dallas’ lineman. Room for Ratliff to start would be a plus, and Sparano hasn’t gone after one of his old OL yet.

Don’t go off of Ginn’s draft status. Go off of what he can do for this Cowboys’ offense.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Bigrigga31 on Jul 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm not sure Ginn could make our team

unless TG doesn’t play. I like Hurd, Austin and Stanback much more than Ginn.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 23, 2008 8:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

how?

I would take Ginn over Stanback..

If we got Ginn, I think the team would realase Glenn..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 9:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

release

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 9:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He looks to me like the same kind of WR as T.Glenn.

Both smallish, fast. Terry though has great hands, but Ginn is more adept at the return game. Oh and younger. Very much so.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Bigrigga31 on Jul 22, 2008 7:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

but we don't really need returners

with jones and jones (assuming reinstatement) we should have a much better return game already, and there’s other guys who can also do it well so it isn’t really an issue of depth.

by scottmaui on Jul 23, 2008 2:07 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

No, but his returning would be a bonus.

His speed on the outside is a necessity if Glenn can’t hold up and Austin can’t beat out Crayton. Those are two big ifs, though.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Bigrigga31 on Jul 23, 2008 2:13 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Thank you.

Man Ginn is so stiff and un-natural. He doenst have good feet or hips. He’s not quick at all just stupid fast.

Honestly I think he’s playin the wrong sport. I think if he was trained right he could be an olympic sprinter. But right now he’s just a fast guy playin football.

by GloryDayz88 on Jul 23, 2008 8:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He sure looked quick at Ohio State...

Easy to criticize a guy in his 1st year in the league with garbage QB.

I think he can get it done and I would be willing to trade hatcher to see it get done.. Won’t happen, Miami isn’t trading him for that small of a price tag.

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 9:47 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

For Hatcher and McQ or Proctor they might.

They need help on that OL.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Bigrigga31 on Jul 23, 2008 9:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Stiff

He doesnt even make one step cuts.

by GloryDayz88 on Jul 23, 2008 10:44 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

well said GloryDayz

I’m glad to see somebody sees that Ginn isn’t as good as advertised.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 23, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

LOL

Sounds like another person who really hasn’t watched Ginn to me..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 3:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I've watched Ginn plenty

just not impressed with him as a WR, only as a return guy. Never saw him do much in college other than run by slow CBs and in the NFL there are no slow CBs, so you better know how to get open and not just rely on your speed.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ginn

I seen him do both..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 4:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ginn

I have seen him do both.

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

really? because his route running stinks

so explain to me how did anything in college other than simply run by CBs?

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 23, 2008 4:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Because

He did more then just run by CB’s, but if you only watch sportscenter you would think that is all he can do..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

haha

Great Argument!!! lol

he rounds off cuts, even during his returns…..he will never be able to get open without relying on his speed…....Never!

by slash on Jul 24, 2008 12:30 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

dude, I watched almost every

OSU game when Ginn played so you better come up with a better argument than that cause its pretty pathetic.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 24, 2008 7:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If you say so..

I guess we will just have to wait for him to play this season.. I feel bad for Ginn his Qb situation is horrible.

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 24, 2008 9:17 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I think the real question for the purposes of this debate

is if you think he’s enough of an upgrade as a #2 (or even #3) WR to justify a trade. I haven’t seen a lot out of him as a pro, but considering this team needs a good speed WR, I think he’d be hard to pass up. \

But wasn’t he a top 10 draft pick? His contract must be huge.

by grapejoos on Jul 23, 2008 8:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Not bad..

Signed a five-year, $19.6 million contract

Crayton’s deal four-year, $14 million

Depending on Austin’s progression he could be our #2. He has good hands.

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 8:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

For that money

He’d have to crack the #2. He can do it.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Bigrigga31 on Jul 23, 2008 8:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

he does not have good hands

what the hell are you going on??? his hands are very inconsistent and unreliable…I watched every college game he played in…..HE DOES NOT have good hands….....every aspect of your argument is a lie, not that i think you’re trying to lie, you just haven’t seen him play besides his highlight reels on youtube…..

and the Terry Glenn with better speed comparison is the worst comparison I have ever seen…....that’s like saying Brady Quinn is a white Michael Vick…...Glenn Runs great routes, has impeccable hands and is very consistent and is also a playmaker at WR…..all of which Ginn sucks at…...and to be a playmaker, you have to be consistent at it somewhat….in the NFL I can’t see Ginn even getting open enough to be a playmaker…....Remember the 1/20 times Ginn is open, he’s not automatically getting a reception..the QB will still have to pass up all his reads and throw it to him

by slash on Jul 24, 2008 12:41 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well, since you're the big Ginn expert

what would you think if the Boys did make a deal to acquire him?

Don’t you think he could provide some of that “wow” that JJ covets? Don’t you think he would compete with Austin for the speed threat that Glenn may not be able to offer.

No other WR on this Cowboys team has speed. If Glenn doesn’t come back, it’s all up to Austin. Think about what Ginn, Jr. can add to this team—how it is now. He’s got a year under his belt, maybe he learned a trick or two.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Bigrigga31 on Jul 24, 2008 1:17 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ginn

I watched a ton of OSU games I noticed speed, quickness, and good hands. Your opionon may differ, but it really doesn’t matter to me. I would take him in heartbeat for Hatcher.

Terry Glenn with better speed comparison is the worst comparison I have ever seen

Terry Glenn was the same type of player coming out of Ohio State. Ginn is faster, good kick/punt returner, and Glenn was more polished as a WR. Seems pretty simple to me. At this point I would rather have Ginn then Glenn. I don’t think Glenn will ever be healthy again.. Hope I am wrong, but that is what my gut says.

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 24, 2008 9:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

All this Ginn Talk is moot

There isn’t any info available that Miami is even looking to get rid of him..

by Deke on Jul 24, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm out here in Big Ten country.

I watched Ginn in person against Iowa. And he didnt have feet like Anthony Gonzales or even Antonio Pittman

by GloryDayz88 on Jul 23, 2008 5:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Antonio Pittman.> LOL

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 5:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ginn

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WGyrgqOKZLg

He sure looks quick to me. I don’t know a good punt returner who isn’t quick.. Pac-man, Hester, Cribbs, these guys are all quick..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 6:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

A good scout?

I don’t want to be a scout, I have GM skills..

Please don’t act like all scouts agree and always get it right. So the scout comment means nothing…

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 24, 2008 9:23 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Big 10 is Big competition

Ginn is more than just some speed guy. He can flat out fly. He’s a long-strider not a juker. You can do so much with him: returns, reverses, slot routes, flank him out opposite T.O.

He’d challenge for a starting job here. If not, there’s tons of ways to utilize his abilities.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Bigrigga31 on Jul 23, 2008 8:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

dude....you just described Felix Jones....move on already....

we’re in need of a vet receiver…not some smallish project like Ginn…...although I’d surely take him as a swap for Carp, Spears, or Kosier….Ginn has more upside than Austin or Hurd….but…....he’s 3 years away from being anything special.

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Jul 24, 2008 5:51 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

We all want a Vet

Teams just aren’t going to trade away the Vet. I think TO and Moss have scared teams away from giving up a big time WR.

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 24, 2008 9:25 AM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I don't see Miami giving up any draft picks either.....

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Jul 21, 2008 9:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Very good point.

If he thought it would fly, I think he would have traded Jason Taylor’s left nut for a 7th round pick. Tuna has one thing on his mind and that’s rebuild, which he thinks is best suited to be done through the draft.

by Mandmeisterx on Jul 21, 2008 9:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

LOL

That #38 sure can hit!

by Bigrigga31 on Jul 21, 2008 10:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs