Jerry confirms trade still possible
by Boyzfan94 on Jul 21, 2008 7:47 PM CDT
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If you didn't see Jerry Jones being interviewed this past weekend, he confirmed a trade during camp is a distinct possibility. Said the Cowboys were over stocked in some positions and would be open to talk player trades.
If I had to guess who could be traded it would be Spears followed by Ellis.
Where?
Miami ofcourse.
They are short one experienced DE when they traded Taylor to the Redskins. I would'nt at all be surprised it one of these players were traded their.
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Who would you say we would trade for
if it is Miami?
"Out of need springs desire, and out of desire springs the energy and the will to win."
by DaveTroll on Jul 21, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
i mean i guess if they believe in spencer(which i do) but right now in this league you cant have too many pass rushers.. idk i just dont see anything happening. I wouldnt want to mess with this core until they win when it counts
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Jul 21, 2008 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see Spears being traded to Miami, hatcher is ready to take over his spot
And Spears wont be resign after this year.
I also could see Oglesby traded too
by Deke on Jul 21, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if Spears would get traded,
we’d see Rat go back to end, and it would mean the team was real confident in Tank at NT. Not something I would mind seeing. I also wouldn’t be shocked to see some of the DB or WR “depth” sent out of town.
by Mandmeisterx on Jul 21, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spears wouldn't be traded to Mia
After the parting shots he made upon Bill’s departure.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
by BudLight on Jul 22, 2008 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody take Hatcher straight up for Ted Ginn?
That’s a DE Parcells likes.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 22, 2008 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
How can you say he sucks, but yet rave about Stanback?
I would take Ginn in heartbeat for hatcher.. No Hesitation..
Move Rat to LE, Tank at NT, Canty-DONE
Ginn is a faster Terry Glenn..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn will be nothing more than a punt returner
and certainly nothing special like Hester. He’ll turn out to be a bust considering where he was selected in the draft.
His receiving skills have a lot to be desired, to me he’s a fast guy and nothing more.
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by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if he stays in MIA
He’s Santonio Holmes with better speed…if he’s in the right system I think he’ll flourish
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by TheJeezus on Jul 22, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please..Ginn isn't half the receiver
that Holmes is. As a matter of fact, both Holmes and Gonzalez are much better receivers than Ginn who was one of the most overrated receivers to ever come out of college in a long time.
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by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on what exactly?
One year as a pro lining up on the same side of the ball as Cleo Lemon, Marty Booker and Jesse Chatman? Speed receivers need threats around them in order to thrive. Otherwise all they see is safety help over the top. See, Santana Moss.
"Will the Rangers ever win...past July?" - Peter Schmidt
by TheJeezus on Jul 22, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
based upon what I saw of him at OSU
it was crystal clear to me that Holmes and Gonzalez were the better receivers in that offense.
Guys like Ginn are always overrated because scouts and teams are infatuated with speed, but that alone won’t get you far at all in the NFL.
Just ask guys like Troy Williamson and Alexander Wright. older Cowboys fans should remember that draft bust from Auburn.
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by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
Just write the guy off without even giving him oppurtunity. Just from what I saw last year, he is no Troy Williamson. Troy can’t see..
I would be willing to take a chance on him and give up Hatcher, like I said no hesitation.. You place that guy in the slot and he kills for us..
Santanio Holmes and Anthonly Gonzalez are both good WR’s, so saying he is behind them at WR really isn’t making a statement..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you'll be eating those words this year
Hatcher is primed for a breakout year. No way would I trade him for a project receiver, that’s what Ginn is, a project who needs alot of work, he’s horrible running routes. Right now he’s nothing more than a kick returner at best..
by Deke on Jul 22, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said Deke
trading Hatcher for Ginn would be one of the dumbest moves Jerry could ever do, simply asinine if you ask me.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I think hatcher is a above average DE who hasn’t shown he can prefrom as a starter..
If they both had break out years, I think Ginn’s year would give his team a better chance to win then Hatcher.
You are talking about a back-up like he is an All-Pro.. Hilarious..
trading Hatcher for Ginn would be one of the dumbest moves Jerry could ever do, simply asinine if you ask me.
Calm Down I didn’t say trade him for MB3..
There is no way Miami would trade Ginn for a back-up DE in 3-4..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to trade Spears, I could along with that
Hatcher played pass rushing defensive end in the nickel, thats a four man line, not end in the 3-4. The kid came from Grambling, not exactly the hot bed for elite players. The kid has all the measureables, a high character guy and a ton of upside, he’s shown flashes of it in games last year, this is his third year and I believe he will be a major factor this year, he will push Spears for his starting job at defensive end in the 3-4.
Ginn has along way to go to beany kind of receiver and was thee dumbest Miami pick of the draft last year. Way to ealrly to draft him when they had alot more pressing needs, like Quarterback.
by Deke on Jul 22, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jumping for Joy
If we could trade Spears and 4th for Ginn, maybe even a 3rd.
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parcells and Co. probably agree with you
about Ginn being drafted too high. That’s why I thought they might put him on the trading block for one of Dallas’ lineman. Room for Ratliff to start would be a plus, and Sparano hasn’t gone after one of his old OL yet.
Don’t go off of Ginn’s draft status. Go off of what he can do for this Cowboys’ offense.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 22, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure Ginn could make our team
unless TG doesn’t play. I like Hurd, Austin and Stanback much more than Ginn.
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by Terry on Jul 23, 2008 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how?
I would take Ginn over Stanback..
If we got Ginn, I think the team would realase Glenn..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he'd be gone.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 23, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks to me like the same kind of WR as T.Glenn.
Both smallish, fast. Terry though has great hands, but Ginn is more adept at the return game. Oh and younger. Very much so.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 22, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but we don't really need returners
with jones and jones (assuming reinstatement) we should have a much better return game already, and there’s other guys who can also do it well so it isn’t really an issue of depth.
by scottmaui on Jul 23, 2008 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but his returning would be a bonus.
His speed on the outside is a necessity if Glenn can’t hold up and Austin can’t beat out Crayton. Those are two big ifs, though.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 23, 2008 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
Man Ginn is so stiff and un-natural. He doenst have good feet or hips. He’s not quick at all just stupid fast.
Honestly I think he’s playin the wrong sport. I think if he was trained right he could be an olympic sprinter. But right now he’s just a fast guy playin football.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 23, 2008 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He sure looked quick at Ohio State...
Easy to criticize a guy in his 1st year in the league with garbage QB.
I think he can get it done and I would be willing to trade hatcher to see it get done.. Won’t happen, Miami isn’t trading him for that small of a price tag.
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Hatcher and McQ or Proctor they might.
They need help on that OL.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 23, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stiff
He doesnt even make one step cuts.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 23, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said GloryDayz
I’m glad to see somebody sees that Ginn isn’t as good as advertised.
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by Terry on Jul 23, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Sounds like another person who really hasn’t watched Ginn to me..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've watched Ginn plenty
just not impressed with him as a WR, only as a return guy. Never saw him do much in college other than run by slow CBs and in the NFL there are no slow CBs, so you better know how to get open and not just rely on your speed.
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by Terry on Jul 23, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn
I seen him do both..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really? because his route running stinks
so explain to me how did anything in college other than simply run by CBs?
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by Terry on Jul 23, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
He did more then just run by CB’s, but if you only watch sportscenter you would think that is all he can do..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, I watched almost every
OSU game when Ginn played so you better come up with a better argument than that cause its pretty pathetic.
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by Terry on Jul 24, 2008 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you say so..
I guess we will just have to wait for him to play this season.. I feel bad for Ginn his Qb situation is horrible.
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 24, 2008 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the real question for the purposes of this debate
is if you think he’s enough of an upgrade as a #2 (or even #3) WR to justify a trade. I haven’t seen a lot out of him as a pro, but considering this team needs a good speed WR, I think he’d be hard to pass up. \
But wasn’t he a top 10 draft pick? His contract must be huge.
by grapejoos on Jul 23, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not bad..
Signed a five-year, $19.6 million contract
Crayton’s deal four-year, $14 million
Depending on Austin’s progression he could be our #2. He has good hands.
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For that money
He’d have to crack the #2. He can do it.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 23, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he does not have good hands
what the hell are you going on??? his hands are very inconsistent and unreliable…I watched every college game he played in…..HE DOES NOT have good hands….....every aspect of your argument is a lie, not that i think you’re trying to lie, you just haven’t seen him play besides his highlight reels on youtube…..
and the Terry Glenn with better speed comparison is the worst comparison I have ever seen…....that’s like saying Brady Quinn is a white Michael Vick…...Glenn Runs great routes, has impeccable hands and is very consistent and is also a playmaker at WR…..all of which Ginn sucks at…...and to be a playmaker, you have to be consistent at it somewhat….in the NFL I can’t see Ginn even getting open enough to be a playmaker…....Remember the 1/20 times Ginn is open, he’s not automatically getting a reception..the QB will still have to pass up all his reads and throw it to him
by slash on Jul 24, 2008 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, since you're the big Ginn expert
what would you think if the Boys did make a deal to acquire him?
Don’t you think he could provide some of that “wow” that JJ covets? Don’t you think he would compete with Austin for the speed threat that Glenn may not be able to offer.
No other WR on this Cowboys team has speed. If Glenn doesn’t come back, it’s all up to Austin. Think about what Ginn, Jr. can add to this team—how it is now. He’s got a year under his belt, maybe he learned a trick or two.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 24, 2008 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
slash, you're dead on correct
Ginn=bust
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by Terry on Jul 24, 2008 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn
I watched a ton of OSU games I noticed speed, quickness, and good hands. Your opionon may differ, but it really doesn’t matter to me. I would take him in heartbeat for Hatcher.
Terry Glenn with better speed comparison is the worst comparison I have ever seen
Terry Glenn was the same type of player coming out of Ohio State. Ginn is faster, good kick/punt returner, and Glenn was more polished as a WR. Seems pretty simple to me. At this point I would rather have Ginn then Glenn. I don’t think Glenn will ever be healthy again.. Hope I am wrong, but that is what my gut says.
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 24, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All this Ginn Talk is moot
There isn’t any info available that Miami is even looking to get rid of him..
by Deke on Jul 24, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm out here in Big Ten country.
I watched Ginn in person against Iowa. And he didnt have feet like Anthony Gonzales or even Antonio Pittman
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 23, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Antonio Pittman.> LOL
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by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WGyrgqOKZLg
He sure looks quick to me. I don’t know a good punt returner who isn’t quick.. Pac-man, Hester, Cribbs, these guys are all quick..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you wouldn't be a good scout
LOOK AT HIS CUTS
by slash on Jul 24, 2008 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A good scout?
I don’t want to be a scout, I have GM skills..
Please don’t act like all scouts agree and always get it right. So the scout comment means nothing…
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 24, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big 10 is Big competition
Ginn is more than just some speed guy. He can flat out fly. He’s a long-strider not a juker. You can do so much with him: returns, reverses, slot routes, flank him out opposite T.O.
He’d challenge for a starting job here. If not, there’s tons of ways to utilize his abilities.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 23, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude....you just described Felix Jones....move on already....
we’re in need of a vet receiver…not some smallish project like Ginn…...although I’d surely take him as a swap for Carp, Spears, or Kosier….Ginn has more upside than Austin or Hurd….but…....he’s 3 years away from being anything special.
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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by BoyzRback on Jul 24, 2008 5:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all want a Vet
Teams just aren’t going to trade away the Vet. I think TO and Moss have scared teams away from giving up a big time WR.
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 24, 2008 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see Miami giving up any draft picks either.....
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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by BoyzRback on Jul 21, 2008 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good point.
If he thought it would fly, I think he would have traded Jason Taylor’s left nut for a 7th round pick. Tuna has one thing on his mind and that’s rebuild, which he thinks is best suited to be done through the draft.
by Mandmeisterx on Jul 21, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could trade Ellis and Spears to detroit, cincy, or phoenix.
for the usual suspects. We could throw in a draft pick if needed.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 21, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ellis
I think he is more valuable then what we would get in return, if we traded him..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 21, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
He’s proven he can bring the pressure in Wade’s system and there’s not a lot of teams that use this system. Up until 2 seasons ago he’s been solid, but not anything great as a DE. We would get very little from anybody. Definitely not MIA, who just shipped off an older player for future draft picks.
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by APerfectStar on Jul 21, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
what was it? 12 sacks in half the season
what he does for Ware on the other side can’t be undervalued…....plus Spencer will be fresh off the bench and with the experience will be just that much better whenever he gets the starting spot
by slash on Jul 24, 2008 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we really need another WR despite what other people say
if T.O. goes down our offense goes down. That wasn’t any more clear than last year. losing Ellis would suck, but it would be worth it. You have to pay the piper if you want another star receiver.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 21, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i kinda want another WR
I mean if we can afford it…...people think we’re a SB contender now? then put R.Williams or C.Johnson on the other side of T.O
TO
Williams/Ocho Cinco
Crayton
Witten
Bennett
Barber
Felix
Best O-line in the league = A lot of weapons for Tony Romo lol
and that offense with our defense = SB champions
if we can trade our 2nd rounder for one of them, then do it…a possible SB another Pro Bowl WR could bring us is worth more than the latest 2nd round pick and we could trade back up with our extra picks….
whether we need one or not isn’t the question, it’s how much better are we with another Pro Bowl WR opposite T.O and Crayton back in the Slot where he belongs….
by slash on Jul 24, 2008 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are naming
Guys who aren’t available. You might as well say you want Moss.
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by Wmillion on Jul 24, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ellis is too critical.
I dont want to see him invovled in any trade. Even for Chad.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 22, 2008 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about those young cb's?
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 21, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
huh ???? NO CB's or Ellis would be traded, especially now that Taylor is off the market....
Ball or Oglesby wouldn’t warrant anything worthy of trade value….a 7th ?? maybe.
Spears (2nd), Kosier (4th-5th), Carp (2nd-3rd), and Roy (3rd-4th) are the only tradable players on this team I wouldn’t be upset losing right now, that can be replaced by equal or better talent.
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Jul 21, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats funny
I think I would trade all 4 of those dudes you just named for an impact reciever.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 23, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spears and Henry for Ted Ginn, Jr.
Parcells didn’t draft him and he would rather shore the defense up with some vets. He knows Jerry wants a flanker that can fly.
Spears’ and Henry’s contracts are trade friendly enough and Miami has holes at both of these positions.
Parcells may want an OL, too. Maybe Proctor, McQuistan or even Columbo (which would suck; he’s my favorite).
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 21, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
geeez...you work for Miami ??........no way that would ever happen..
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Jul 21, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, some sort of combo
probably a lesser CB because I think the Dallas staff already has plans for Henry for this year. But those are his lineman. I’m surprised Sporano hasn’t tried to bring any of his guys over yet. Kosier even?
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 21, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
columbo
could be trade bait, if don’t plan on signing him, so we could get something in return. At the same time, I don’t see Jerry trading a tackle who was a force, when he is building a team to win now..
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 21, 2008 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially not with Taylor in DC now
We need Columbo (and Kosier).
by grapejoos on Jul 22, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miami has two second round picks in 2009 as a result
of the trade with the Redskins. They could use one to trade for Spears or Ellis. Honestly, I don’t think Spears is worth a #2, maybe a 3rd or 4th round
Ellis may not be worth more that either.
If Taylor was traded for a 2nd and 6th round pick than Ellis is worth nothing more than a 3rd or 4th round pick in 2009.
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by Boyzfan94 on Jul 21, 2008 10:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ellis was a top 10 pass rusher
Who played great run D last year. He should be worth more than a third.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Stuff-You-Need-Brett-Favre-action-figure-bench?urn=nfl,93739
by BudLight on Jul 22, 2008 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHOULD..
...be, but he doesn’t merit that much…he’s in his 30’s, and wants a new contract
if jason taylor (defensive MVP a few years back) only gets a 2nd and a 5th, no way Ellis (or Spears) get anything better than a 3rd, and that’s in the IDEAL world
by vy til i die on Jul 22, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not that..
miami wanted picks redskins needed a DE. Miami took what they could get not saying they couldnt get a 1st for JT but at this moment no one was offering
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by thebigham on Jul 22, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way, not at his age
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by Boyzfan94 on Jul 22, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If..
You think he has 3 good seasons left in him then he is worth a 3rd.
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has maybe one more season left
He won’t be on this team after the season. If he does, it will be as a backup or role player only. This season his plays will be cut down with Spencer getting more. Spencer will be the main guy as the season progresses and most definitely next season.
Might as well trade Ellis while we can get something for him.
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by Boyzfan94 on Jul 23, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember also he is a UFA after the 2009 season
and he won’t be getting an extension.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
by Boyzfan94 on Jul 23, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
his role player career begins this season.
Does Spencer have that frohawk still?
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 23, 2008 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody's tradin for Spears
when they know they can have him for free next year.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 23, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
double post..not sure how that happened..lol
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by Boyzfan94 on Jul 21, 2008 10:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I say we stand pat
And see if somebody shakes loose during camp. If not then lets roll the way we are.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 22, 2008 6:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pass rush pressure beats having WRs every time
The Rams have had the best WR tandem for years and yet have done little since the SB. The Giants won with a lesser receiving corps than Dallas has today usingt pass pressure and a solid running game. The Ravens won by leaving the whole offense on the bus. If the team wants a good regular season record, trade for Boldin. If they want a ring, keep Ellis and develop a young guy.
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by dunkman on Jul 22, 2008 6:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Spears, possibly, Ellis, no way
Carpenter another definite possibility.
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by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 7:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
problem
With Carpenter is he behind a guy who can go down anytime with another concussion..
We really aren’t that deep at ILB.
"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"
by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i'd be surprised if Carp was moved
I think he’s gonna get every chance to be Zach’s successor starting this year. The coaching staff should be making an effort to rotate him in more.
I highly doubt Ellis would be traded. He doesn’t seem to be a name that would stir up trade talks.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 22, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burnett is better and should be Thomas' successor
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by Terry on Jul 22, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Who is Bradie James back-up?
I don’t think we can trade Carp and get more then a 4th.. I think we are better off keeping him. If we could get a 2nd for him though, I would say do it.I just think trading Carp makes us thin at inside. Don’t know much about the rookies though, Can either one move inside if needed?
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by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. Burnett is Bradie's backup.
Carp is Zach’s. Both Burnett and Bradie will probably have the radio’s in their helmets, signifying that their LB spots are the DEF’s playcallers. Wasn’t Burnett doing that for the Nickel and Dime last year too? Think so.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 22, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bradie James go.
If Kevin Burnett has a real good camp, James could be shipped down the road as well. They’re going to have to make a decision on Burnett this year. He could be in for a big payday elsewhere.
by Mandmeisterx on Jul 22, 2008 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No way Bradie James get traded
He doesn’t get the glory, but he’s critical to the way the defense works. He’s definitely a core player.Plus he’s gotten a long term contract already.
Spears is the only guy that makes sense to trade. He’s still got some value, his contract is up next season, and there are 2 guys on the roster that can take over his spot (Ratliff, Hatcher). On offense I could only see one of the back up linemen being offered up, and their value is negligible.
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by APerfectStar on Jul 22, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradie's here to stay as long as anybody on this D.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 22, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WRs Williams or Bouldin
are the only players I’d be interested in trading for this year if you could swing a deal that made sense. These are two guys who could step up and be your #1 if TO gets hurt and that’s what we really need as insurance this year and a transition into the future when TO hangs ‘em up.
What would you give up for either of these guys? Next year’s number 1? Current players?+
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by BulletBob on Jul 22, 2008 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't give up anything more than a 3rd rder for Roy Williams-WR
He’ll be a free agent in 8 months, unless we have a deal in place during trade….Boldin I’d give a 1st rounder for….plus a player…either Carp, Roy, Spears, or Kosier
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by BoyzRback on Jul 22, 2008 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
trade a 1st
For Roy or Boldin, like you said with Roy deal would need to be in place.
I would trade a 2nd Rounder and Carp, also, they both could use Linebackers..
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by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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