The new benchmark for Canty signing ??

by BoyzRback on Jul 22, 2008 6:26 PM CDT Comment 21 comments

ok.....The ONLY player left that should be extended sometime soon, in the upcoming months is restricted free agent -DE Chris Canty, who I personally believe is our best D Lineman right now, and has shown many flashes of excellence, has remained relatively healthy, and still has much upside to become a Trevor Pryce, Richard Seymour type impact rush end in our system. I was figuring possibly a little bit more than we gave Ratliff to extend....but a very similiar DE just signed a whopping extension that very well will have an effect Jerry's and Stephen's negotiating leverage.........here's a link to the new contract signed by San Diego's 3-4 DE Louis Castillo, 43.1 million / 18 in bonuses over 5 years.......who I think is a tremendous talent, and still only 24 years old.....but he's missed 13 games over the past 2 seasons.....and STILL got this contract...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8096fa47&template=with-video&confirm=true

.It only makes me wonder what Canty's demands will be now in light of this recent signing of comparable talent.....I say Canty gets signed to a 5 year / 35 million dollar contract......15 million bonus.........only time will tell............

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That's a good guess

Castillo’s new contract will probably be the template for Canty’s new deal. If Dallas waits too long his asking price could go even higher.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jul 22, 2008 6:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Man

Maybe those numbers are realistic, but pretty mind-blowing. Castillo is very highly regarded, much moreso than Canty, but the numbers you mentioned are probably about right for the next tier down. I like Canty a lot, but I would not commit $7m/year to the guy for 5 years based on his current body of work. Put him on the Thanksgiving extension plan.

by grapejoos on Jul 22, 2008 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

The increase in pay for these players reminds me of the of the housing in California from 03-06. Just crazy..
He has been disruptive, but not ready to give him that type of money..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Question?

Would you rather have Ware & Spears or Merriman & Castillo?

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hard to say

I guess I would have to say Merriman & Castillo because I think Castillo is much better than Spears, but it’s hard to know how much of those SD guys is football talent vs. pharmaceutical enhancement (both have been punished for steroid use, and I don’t buy any steroid story about innocently trying to recover from injury).

That said, I think Ware is the best LB in the entire NFL, so it’s a very difficult choice. He’s almost worth Merriman & Castillo alone to me.

by grapejoos on Jul 23, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I tend to believe Castillo

I dont believe Merriman’s story, but Castilo sent a letter out to all the General managers before the draft about the incident and if I’m not mistaken, Castillo was recovering from a knee injury and had doctor prescribed steriods for his knee to help recovery at the time.

by Deke on Jul 23, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Castillo did handle it the right way

But I’m generally jaded as to the whole “I used steroids to recover from injury” excuse (see Andy Pettite, Castillo, many others). For one, it’s a nice way to admit to a little wrong when you may have done something worse (and people will praise you for being honest!). For another, one of the primary benefits of steroids from a performance enhancement standpoint is in the way they boost your body’s ability to recover from fatigue/injury.

But in any event, all else being equal and with Spears as our current DE, I’d swap Ware for Merriman and Castillo with a gun to my head.

by grapejoos on Jul 23, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think

I would go Merriman and Castillo- Merriman isn’t far behind Ware, but like you I question if was the Juice that made him good..

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

can I have a third choice

I’d take Ware and castillo.

by Deke on Jul 23, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I take the 3rd option

Castillo is a stud, but injury prone. Spears has been realtively depdendable the injury front.

Snatching Canty in the 4th round was huge.

Ware, Castillo, and Canty -Nice.

"You can't win until you're not afraid to lose"

by Wmillion on Jul 23, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hell yeah!

Both of those guys have had questionable steroid status. Spears ain’t that bad. He’s kinda funny in interviews too!

Besides, I’d rather have Ware than BOTH Merriman & Castillo!

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 23, 2008 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I remember

Screaming for Castillo at the spot we took Spears in.

by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jul 23, 2008 1:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that would have been way too high

for Castillo, especially with the steroid issue. He was a late first, early second rd talent in 2005, taking him with the 20th pick would be reaching IMO.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 and it looks like a good pick now and Spears looks bad, but back then Spears was considered a much better prospect.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 23, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

I don’t think anyone would have been shocked to see him go somewhere in the range where Ware was taken. I know that the plan was to take Ware or Merriman and hope Spears slid to us at 20.

by Mandmeisterx on Jul 23, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I remember

the draft talk that year had us taking Spears at 11. Lame.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 23, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no regrets

Canty”s gonna get taken care of, im not ready to put Spears out to pasture yet(he was a beast at LSU), this could be his breakout year.
i never saw Spears get took out by a running back,like merriman(maurice-jones drew),im taken Ware & Spears right now.

by bleedn blu on Jul 23, 2008 6:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs