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Amendola sounds like the real deal!

Everything you guys have said from training camp about this kid so far has sounded good.  With Hurd also sounding great, and the rest -- It sounds like our receiver depth will not be too much a problem this year.  I could seriously see Hurd having a breakout year, and Amendola sounds like he's doing very well already -- I hope he gets some playing time!  I was sorry to see Terry Glenn have to go, but it's definitely exciting to see some of these younger guys coming up!

[UPDATE] I deleted a significant number of comments on this thread. They got personal, and I'm not interested in reading commentary where people attack each other, it's boring. I'm here to talk about Cowboys football and I think most of the other people are, too. Telling me how much smarter you are than another commenter or how good your predictions are or how bad the other guys are and all that other back and forth that only interests the three guys who were engaged in it doesn't really accomplish the goal of talking Cowboys football. This is a warning, if you can't talk to the other people on this board with respect - or at minimum with courtesy - then you won't be commenting here for long. Check yourselves, and if a lot of your comments were deleted, that should tell you something.

By the way, great thread hakrjak . I would say that Stanback has every physical tool to be a big time WR in this league, but it remains to be seen if he can start feeling natural at the position and really understanding the nuances of WR play. He needs to be more consistent, too. He can look great in practice then make mistakes. But Stanback will be on the team and will probably be #5. Amendola looks like a kid with a future. He's quick and elusive and he has good hands. He's been impressive in camp without a doubt. He reminds me of Sam Hurd in his first year, not physically, but someone who just comes to camp and starts catching the ball and making plays. He runs great routes and has a knack for getting open. If I had to make a decision on him right now, I would keep him as the 6th and worry about the numbers elsewhere. But fortunately, we get the preseason to watch him and make a further evaluation. Let's see what he does against live competition. And Stanback, too. [END UPDATE]

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Yea i def hope he snags a roster spot..

he’d be proving a lot of ppl wrong… and a lot of people right.. haha

I was sorry to see Terry Glenn have to go, but it’s definitely exciting to see some of these younger guys coming up!

+1….

The last time the Gmen won the Superbowl.. Dallas won three of the next 5

by eMBe3 on Jul 28, 2008 10:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

with Glenn gone, he has a great shot

at making the team, however, he won’t see much action during the regular season unless we get a slew of unforseen injuries.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 28, 2008 10:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TG

TG doesn’t appear to be hot commodity.. Lamont Jordan didn’t last a day as a FA.

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 28, 2008 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats because he's damaged goods

and all the other teams know that. If he wasn’t, he’d still be a Cowboy because he’s that good when healthy.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 29, 2008 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

All those people still wishing TG was here, let’s them now he isn’t healthy..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 29, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really excited about this receiving corps

Would like to see some 4WR sets. I know Witten and Felix will scoop up a bunch of passes off the wide outs, but the team can easily justify keeping 6WRs on the roster.

Like Rodney Hannah, Amendola might be showing too much to sneak him on the PS.
That’s a good thing!

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 28, 2008 10:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

4 wide sets

I think it was on Lunch Break today they were saying they’ve seen some sets with Felix on one side, Witten on the other, and TO in the slot. What a way to mix things up. Between Felix, Witten and Bennett (and Curtis) along with all the WRs, we can give so many different looks and formations to give defenses fits trying to match up with us. Try to put a LB on Felix and he’ll beat him every time. Garrett’s creative juices just must be overflowing…

by scottmaui on Jul 29, 2008 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cowboys definitely need to get the Cat

involved in the passing game because he’s at his best in open space.

I trust Garrett will find many ways.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 29, 2008 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

el gato

El gato vs a Linebacker on a route, I’ll take El gato every time.

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 29, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 29, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was in college

hopefully he’ll carry over that success to the NFL. I always thought he was just a smaller version of Darren McFadden which is why I thought trading up for McFadden was stupid because you get basically the same player at #22.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 29, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said it once

and ill say it again El gato will have a better NFL career then DMAC

What the French?! Toast!

by thebigham on Jul 29, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no doubt

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 29, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amedola makes the active roster no question about it

especially now that TG is gone.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Jul 29, 2008 10:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

Jefferson might have something to say about that.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 29, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Active roster!!

Please, give me a break, an undrafted receiver who has a lot to learn about the position. Production in college doesn’t always translate to the NFL. The scrap yard is full of receivers that have alot more size speed and talent. He wont see alot , if any action this year. I dont see him being active this year. If the cowboys bring in a veteran receiver, which I think they will, he’ll be hard pressed to make the 53 man roster.

by Deke on Jul 29, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only way Cowboys bring in a vet WR

is if Austin and Hurd fail to step up in the preseason which I think they will.

Any street FA will not offer more than Austin or Hurd anyway, we’d have to trade for a good vet receiver which is highly doubtful.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 29, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

VET

What Vet do you bring in? No VET’s worth brining in, we did ok with the current roster last year..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 29, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is what I figured..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 29, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

we are rolling with what we have. Forget about a veteran WR coming in.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Jul 29, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what about Austin?

A walk on undrafted FA from a small college. Monmouth University were I attended. A smaller school than Texas Tech where Amendola attended. So how can you say it can’t happen. Amendola possess that speed and quickness you want in the slot. I don’t see any other WR currently on this roster that has it, besides maybe Stanbach, but he is raw and is not as polished as Amedola.

Amedola may be the closest thing to TG we have at this point. I’m not saying he is the vertical threat as TG or even as fast, but he is small and quick like TG. We need a slot WR like that. We are carrying six WRs on the roster like last season and it will look like this:

TO
Crayton
Austin
Hurd
Stanbach
Amendola

Bank on it!

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Jul 29, 2008 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he continues to impress, Amendola may have to make the roster

to avoid losing him to waivers. Then, maybe Dallas can slip Jefferson onto the PS. I think with the comparisons to Wes Welker and the impact he had on the Pats last year, and the attention Danny’s been garnering since joining the team, other clubs may already have their eye on him.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 29, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very true

It maybe same thing we had to do with Hurd and Austin..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 29, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, no way he makes it through to the PS

The pub has been too good on him alone, apart from any Welker comparisons. I question the guy too, but everything I read is good route, good cut, good catch.

by grapejoos on Jul 29, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Plus wade really likes the kid too!
He said that danny “Catches everything thrown his way”
No way you’re sneaking him onto the PS….He’ll make the active roster

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Jul 30, 2008 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if he hangs around the bottom of the 53

and only is in the 45 active game day guys, he’ll at least get to get on the field some as much as Stanback did last year. Because of his unique qualities though and experience at WR, Amendola may get more action.

Question for anybody: During Preseason, is everybody active at the games?

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Jul 31, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe so

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he may see more

Stanback didn’t get more action due to injury.

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am carpooling with a Texan fan who must have been smokin' crack

The guy I carpool with is a Texans fan, we have been carpooling for about 2 1/2 weeks now and for the most part he is not a hater of dallas but not a fan either. Yesterday leaving work I was talking about the idea that Dallas is not in a unique position if we lose our No 1 receiver, that in fact a number of teams would be in trouble if that happened to them. My coworker then says that dallas does not have a very good receiving corps and that the Texans have a better one; and that Andre Johnson is a better WR than owens by a mile. Now, I have not once said a bad thing about the Texans, I have avoided the cliche cowboy fan response of bringing up superbowl victiories or playoff apperances. I told him whether or not you think that the corps are better than the Texans it still does not change the point that if you lose your No. 1 then your team will struggle. This is the point where I think he was just trying to provoke me the whole time or he was smoking crack; I asked him “well, what about the TE position?” He responds, the Texans have a better TE than Dallas; he had to be high or was just trying to provoke me, right?

by cowboy78 on Jul 29, 2008 3:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

your friend is a moron

I really don’t know how else to say it, unless he is just trying to really piss you off.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 29, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, that's ludicrous

Andre Johnson is the most underrated #1 WR in the NFL, he is top 5, so I don’t think drugs are required for a homer to say he is better than TO (that said, Johnson can’t stay healthy).

But to say their TE is better than Witten is insane. Gates is the only other TE with an argument there (with all due respect to Gonzo, Dallas Clark, Winslow, etc)

by grapejoos on Jul 29, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have a point

A small clarification, the point that I thought he was high was when the topic of TE came up, not WR. I could see from a certain stand point that if Andre Johnson stayed healthy and in a different system then he could be comprable to TO but I do not believe that he better or much better than TO. TO had very good years with a QB like Garcia, he is a special WR that makes the offence better; I am not sure that Dre is at that level.

by cowboy78 on Jul 29, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dre Johnson

Dre is physically gifted, but not in the same Class as TO. He has two 1000 yd seasons, and his best year for TD’s was 8.. TO eight 1000 yds seasons and 16 TD’s in his best year. Not close..

Witten vs Owen Daniels not a debate..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 29, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was trying to provoke you or it was a joke, IMO

He started off with a very debatable statement that Johnson was better than TO. I don’t think so, but I could see how a Texan fan would think that.

The statement that the Texans have a better TE is too outrageous to take seriously. Either he’s trying to rile you up, make a joke, or he’s very ignorant on the subject and not even worth debating.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jul 29, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I checked with Dr. Phil on this one

it’s a clear case of “Franchise Envy”. DO NOT attempt to help this guy. He needs a trained professional.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 30, 2008 6:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fit the bill

Amendola sounds like he could fit right in, he seems to be the one makn the most noise.thats cool,thats the way to make the squad.
yeah, if coach Garret decides to open the offense up with more 4 wide sets, we will be tough to stop!

by bleedn blu on Jul 29, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

bring up cliche's

we can always talk about SB titles & playoff apperances, cause it”s fact. Nobody can take that away from Cowboy fans.
dont worry you”ll always have the last word, especially with a team that has never won anything to talk about.
he wont want to carpool with u once the season starts.

by bleedn blu on Jul 29, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

True

But I try to keep the facts relevant to the topic at hand and avoid use the SBs and Playoffs as a crutch or one-size-fits-all answer to the haterade. Besides, I follow the credo of “Embrace the Hate”.

by cowboy78 on Jul 29, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

Maybe my coworker was just in pain due to the fact that they do not have a very stellar offense and could be another mediorcre year for the Texans. My one Texans shot for the day is to share a comment from Ticket 760 show yesterday afternoon when Jim-Bob said that Shaub is made of glass and the QB competition between the two is not a real battle but more of a pillow fight.

by cowboy78 on Jul 29, 2008 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love

Amendola! As a Tech fan he was incredible! Best hands I’ve ever seen, clutch catches throughout his career! Never hurt, best route runner since Welker at TTU.

by oneman6tools on Jul 29, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

on the radio the said he has knack for going over the middle

I love it..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 29, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome!

I feel like if there is an injury or something and the guy gets a chance to play—he’s going to really impress us. I can’t wait to see him in a pre-season game! It’s going to be sweet seeing him in the slot.

- Hakrjak

by hakrjak on Jul 30, 2008 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jason garrett will run a new 9wr set and the nfl will be changed forever…..

I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....

by hashishkabob on Jul 31, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

illegal formation?

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus there would be an illegal man downfield..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geez guys

I think it’s pretty obvious he was joking around

by WB3forMB3 on Jul 31, 2008 5:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they got that

but remember, when a guy has “hasish” in his screen name, you can never assume anything…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 31, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or the alternate spelling... hashish

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Jul 31, 2008 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4-wide

TO left side, Hurd right side, Austin in the right slot, Amendola right slot, and Witten at TE. Not a team in the league that has the personnel to cover that..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 1, 2008 12:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

3WRs heavy on one side? Cool.

Then they should throw a HB screen out to Felix on TO’s side while the other WRs clear out!

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 1, 2008 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes sir, that would be the deal..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 1, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amendola is elusive...

I’ve noticed that he doesn’t tip his routes, this enables him to get position on CB’s, even those as good as Adam Jones. He brings a good skills set to the game, and could push his way into the #4 spot ahead of Austin. I’ve watched enough video on this guy to see that he is never out of position and makes opponents with superior ability look foolish at times. Only time will tell….

by SmittyCityMo on Aug 2, 2008 12:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he'll be lucky to make the team

he won’t be pushing anyone this season.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 2, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take that bet Terry

At this point he’s ahead of Stanbach.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 2, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!! that funny Boyz, really funny

Just like Newman was going to be franchised and Spencer will start this season.

Stanback is an absolute lock to make the team and will the #1 receiver on this team after T.O. retires.

Amendola might a #3 receiver someday, maybe.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 2, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 totally agree with Terry here....

Stanback was “redshirted” last year…..He also HAS played WR previously in high school and college, so this is not so much a “project” as you so dubiously like to state every time you try to discredit his projected capabilities ..Go ask James Hardy, Ted Ginn, Jr., Devon Thomas, etc. etc. etc. etc….how much further along are they over a guy like Stanback who’s already been in aa NFL system for a year now…..NONE of those mentioned WR’s are ahead of Stanback in route reading, running, or recognition of Defensive schemes or blitz packages….so give up on that nonsense already…............
Stanback IS bigger, faster, stronger than this “feel good” story Danny Boy….......And would be more useful on special teams than some “Rudy” wanna be trying to be a gunner on kickoffs…..To think Stanback will be cut or placed on the practice squad is way off base….and your obviously caught up in the journalist hype of a guy that I hope makes it as well….but don’t think for one second this “UNDRAFTED” rookie, that played in a gimmick offense has the upper hand on any of last years holdovers…....He may beat out Mike Jefferson for a 6th WR spot IF we keep that many, but he is clearly inferior to Stanback when it comes to upside and athletic ability. Wes Welker comparisons are only going to get you so far…..We don’t need a 180 lb “slot” guy right now….Adam Jones and especially Felix “The Cat” Jones will be the players utilized in that role long before good ‘ole Danny Boy will ever sniff the playing field. You can “bank on that”.
And for you to continue to compare Stanback to “Matt Jones” is simply imbasilic….There is absolutely NO comparison whatsoever, besides the obvious QB title held their final years in college…He is obviously more in line with a Hines Ward comparison as far as body structure and athletic attributes…....He’s not some lanky, akward running speed freak like Matt Jones…......He’s a slasher with speed and power, that would have excelled in college if left at WR, but was so far superior in athletism to his other options at QB for UWashington, he was transfered back to QB…..Matt Jones was a joke of a QB at Arkansas, an option guy, with limited QB skills….

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 2, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personally

I think James Hardy is going to be a star.

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's my point...You "think" he is going to be a star....I think, Terry thinks, heck even Jerry Jones thinks Stanback is going to be a star....there you have it...

Yet playing in Wisconsin’s offensive system puts him light years behind mostly all other WR’s of this draft class…..He did not run ONE pro style route his entire career in college…..yet…..you “think” he’s going to be a star…..going off of measurables, blog sites, and hearsay…...he’s a stud….....now prove he can learn an NFL pro style offensive playbook, and run refined routes over the next 3 years, and you might have something there…...isn’t drafting on projection great ?....

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 2, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one problem..

..if you’re talking about Hardy..uhhhh..he went to Indiana

by vy til i die on Aug 3, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my bad........mind fart...

and yes…he was disiplined, missed playing time, and was a problem child on campus…....took his show on the road and is off to a great start…...problems will follow….he’s got Burress type talent, and will do well…..if he keeps his nose clean…

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 3, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he doesn't stop sticking guns in people faces

He might be playing for a different league, TPL-the prison league

by Deke on Aug 2, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.....not off to a stellar beginning to stardom...

he had issues in college…and was red flagged by me…I’m happy we didn’t select him in the 2nd…........let’s put it that way…..

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 2, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that

Did he get suspended? I don’t think so, he will be fine..

We can all make predictions, but I would take him over Bennett in heartbeat, I think Curtis should be the #2.

Amendola is not a head of Stanback..

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked hardy but like I said before the draft

he was very immature and I thought he should of stayed in school another year. He has alot to learn about the receiver position and about growing up

by Deke on Aug 2, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

excuse me, what?!

“Stanback IS bigger, faster, stronger than this "feel good" story Danny Boy……....And would be more useful on special teams than some "Rudy" wanna be trying to be a gunner on kickoffs….”

Stanback is a very rudimentary route runner, Amendola runs perfect routes, not close to perfect, not nearly perfect…P-E-R-F-E-C-T perfect routes. Thats not something that can be learned over night…obviously. The game is about more than bigger, faster, and stronger. In the craft of playing receiver Amendola is far and away more polished, and has better hands than Stanback. Bigger, faster and stronger don’t mean you can catch. This is not to say that Stanback is a slouch, he’s all that and a bag of chips in a year or two. But today, right now, with the game on the line, I pick Amendola.

by SmittyCityMo on Aug 2, 2008 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

hmm....and you got this info where ??

you know anything about proper route running ? being from Missou, you are privey to this inside knowledge of a actual “perfect” route runner from a spread, run and shoot offense in Texas ? have you seen this player in person ? on film ? heard from an authority on the subject of “perfect” route running ?

Let me put it this way…..when you are all of 5’10” 180lbs….you better bring more to the table than “perfect route runner”.....return man ? possible, but with the likes of T Newman, P Crayton, A Jones, F Jones, M Jenkins, O Scandrick, M Austin ahead of him in that department as well…....He better damn well be able to provide more than “perfect route running” where ever you got that from….6th on the WR depth chart players are NOT kept around just because they run “perfect” routes…...sorry…but if you aren’t useful in special teams as well, you are not going to be taking a roster spot….I don’t care how good of a “perfect” route runner you are, or how good you say your hands are….....good thing is he’ll have a training camp to win over Jerry and Wade…...I know nothing about the guy…I look forward to having a diamond on the rough…....our very own Wes Welker…....time will tell…......As much as I don’t know about Amendola, appearantly you are his PR manager or biggest fan, heck maybe even a college buddy of his…but…....You haven’t a clue as to how far Stanback has progressed since last years training camp either…..so that being said…I would take a superior athlete with a years worth of NFL experience under his belt, than a walk on rookie free agent…..today, as you’d say….with the game on the line….

I actually look forward to seeing the kid Amendola play…but don’t go putting him on this pedistal just yet my fellow fans….....Everyone knows we’d all love to have the next Steve Smith, Wes Welker, Terry Glenn, etc. etc. come strolling into our camp with no fan fare…..but it’s not quite that simple…....

cuz if there was an actual college WR that had great hands and ran “perfect” routes….he would not slip through the cracks of 32 NFL scouting staffs…..and go undrafted, or not make any of the top 50 scouting service web sites as a top 50 positional player….

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 2, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pefect route

That comment struck me as odd..

I think Amendola will make the team and brings a dynamic that others recievers do not.. It will take some time for him to see the field.

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by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2008 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

where do you get off questioning my info?

“you know anything about proper route running ?”

I know it’s more than just a line, it has to do with spacing, and technique, which Amendola has in spades.

“being from Missouri, you are privy to this inside knowledge of a actual "perfect" route runner from a spread, run and shoot offense in Texas ?”

What does being from Missouri have to do with anything? I’ve studied route running, I understand the difference between check-offs and hot routes. Knowing how to get a good CB out of position by not tipping routes isn’t something that most guys know how to do.

“have you seen this player in person ? on film ? heard from an authority on the subject of "perfect" route running ?”

I’m no more an “Authority” than say you. I haven’t seen a live college game in 20 years. I’ve seen film on lots of receivers, very few are good route runners. The reason Amendola got ignored is the same reason every white receiver gets ignored, prejudice. If you think I’m wrong ask John Standford, or David Kirkus.

Amendola’s route running isn’t the only thing he brings to the game, it’s what stands out the most to me. He isn’t perfect, he lacks ideal size and speed, but the free agent wire is full of physical specimens that can’t do the job right.

I don’t see Amendola as a starter, more of a 3rd or 4th receiver, his size is a drawback.

by SmittyCityMo on Aug 2, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 Smitty

You can have all the speed and talent in the world, but that doesn’t mean you can be a good football player. Anyone that has played football in HS, college or otherwise knows that to be true.

Please! Stanbach has a long ways to go.

Like I said Amendola and Stanbach on the PS who get’s snatched up first??.

Amendola no question about it. How can anyone argue that. Stanbach is raw as you can get at WR.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stanback

Would get snatched up 1st. If Amendola was in such high demand he would have been drafted.

There were 35 WR’s drafted this year, 15 of them taken in rounds 5-7-Project WR’s, lucky to make the team. Amendola wasn’t one of them.

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by Wmillion on Aug 3, 2008 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Getting drafted is overrated

plenty of players are missed through the draft. Amendola being from a small was a factor. Being drafted or not drafted has nothing to do with it. Austin, a UFA from a small school was missed also and now has the chance of being the #2 WR on this team.

The “not being drafted argument” is old and tired.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that
Like I said Amendola and Stanbach on the PS who get’s snatched up first??.

I am responding to that. You think a guy who wasn’t drafted and still hasn’t played a down in the Pre-Season would be selected over a guy with a tremendous upside and year under his belt. I am saying NO way..

I am not arguing the Not being drafted, we all know Romo wasn’t drafted… Etc, etc… That argument is tired, not where I was going..


Getting drafted is overrated

I am sorry, but getting drafted isn’t over-rated. Players can make it without being drafted, but the probablity of making in the NFL and not being drafted has to be less then 3%. Not a lot of Romo’s out there.

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by Wmillion on Aug 3, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stanback is essentially a rookie

am responding to that. You think a guy who wasn’t drafted and still hasn’t played a down in the Pre-Season would be selected over a guy with a tremendous upside and year under his belt. I am saying NO way..

Absolutely. Stanback was inactive for much of last season. He had little playing time on the field. Became injured when he was. Amendola was a true WR in college, unlike Stanbach who is a converted QB. Amendola has the edge on Stanback in that he knows the position where as Stanback is trying learn the position. Based on that alone Amendola is the more polished WR. Preseason or no preseason.

Stanback was drafted on his talent alone, nothing more. He might have slipped to the 6th round if not for us taking a chance. Nobody was drafting him as a QB. After the Matt Jones experiment you probably won’t see too many teams taking chances on players like that anymore. I thought selecting Stanback was an awful move because he was a project at best. Stanback better show he can make the transistion or his time will be short. Talent alone is not enough as we all know.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When it comes down to final cuts

teams are more likely to keep guys they’ve invested either $$$ or a draft pick in.

Rookie FAs really have to show something.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO!! Stanbach a #1 WR

he may not even be on the roster next season….Good one Terry….

He has a long long long way to go before that can happen. He needs to show he can play WR first before anything.

I needed a good laugh. Thanks Terry.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't you think those are the plans for Stanback?

That’s why they drafted him—to be a #1 or at least a #2, ala Hines Ward, Randel El, Matt Jones.

Maybe some of these college QBs are a reach in the draft (Jones), but I don’t think Dallas wasted a 4th on a project because if he ends up like Ward all you naysayers will be eating crow.

Besides, the Cowboys have the time and got great value out of Austin and Hurd. With Amendola, they may even have 3 WR Rookie FA’s contributing this year. That’s what investing is all about.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stanback is going to be nothing more than a
3 slot WR in this league if he can make the transistion to WR.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

now thats funny LMAO!

when Stanback is a star #1 WR for us in a few years, I’m going to love reminding you of this silly prediction.

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by Terry on Aug 3, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's an opinion, not a prediction.

My point was that he is not being groomed to be a #3. He doesn’t even fit the mold of a #3. His future is as a primary target in the future. Have some faith.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He absoulety fits the mold

Small, quick and fast. That’s a typical #3 slot receiver

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy is not 6'2

if you believe that I’ll sell you a bridge.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much for the bridge?

I suggest you read this:
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=863D8929-EF39-F550-94BDC3F3484E8E8A

Stanback is getting no shorts of reps in his second training camp, mostly with the second- and third-teams behind the Cowboys’ more seasoned receivers. At 6-2, 208 pounds, he’s big enough to shed cornerbacks’ jams but fast enough to separate downfield.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess you believe everything you read

Players weights and heights are misprinted all the time on purpose. Mickey was just saying about a month ago that Stanback is more like 6’0 and Romo is a stretch at 6’2. This happens all the time. It’s been going on for years.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know

I played ball in H.S. and they put 15 lbs on me and misprinted my position as a LB!

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 years in HS and 3 in College the same

University as Austin before messing up my knee. My height and weight was incorrect all the time.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you ever noticed

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by dunkman on Aug 3, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

taht when you get near the bottom

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of one of these endless debates

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by dunkman on Aug 3, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it looks eerily similar

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to a turd

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by dunkman on Aug 3, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just before

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the toilet tornado

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by dunkman on Aug 3, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stanback is a big WR without a doubt

I’ve seen him up close, from less than 5 feet away and he is big. We comment all the time at camp about his size.

by Dave Halprin on Aug 3, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does he look 6'2"?

Taller than Romo?

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 4, 2008 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Stanbach may be the one who should be worried

I haven’t heard a whole lot on him. When all the talk is about a UFA catching everything under the sun. How quick and elusive he is, that can’t be a good thing for Stanbach. Were carrying six WR’s regardless so Amendola makes the team. No way this kid survives the PS. Alot of teams wanted him after the draft and he wanted to play here.

If Stanbach and Amendola were placed on the PS tomorrow, I bet you that Amendola would be snatched up first. Amendola is a more polished WR even though he is a rookie. Stanbach is a 2nd year project and alot of teams will shy away from that. Matt Jones is all anyone needs to know.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 2, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Although not as polished, Stanback has a lot going for him

He’s fast, he has incredible elusiveness and quickness, he’s stronger than the other WRs and then there is this.

It never hurts to impress the GM….

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by dunkman on Aug 2, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If so many teams wanted him, why didn't they even draft him a seventh round pick

Stanback makes the team easily. Amendola chances of making the team increased with the release of Terry Glenn, but if Dallas brings another veteran receiver into camp, then Amendola will be hard pressed to make the team.

by Deke on Aug 2, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Point

If you really like the kid you take the flier in the 7th round on him..

No way he takes Stanback spot, but I think he makes the team.

I would rather him return punts then Crayton..

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by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

especially with Crayton’s increased workload in the offense.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 2, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adam Jones, pending injury will be returning every punt for as long as he's a Cowboy....

You don’t need to be worrying about Crayton anymore…trust me…

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by BoyzRback on Aug 2, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The least of the cowboys worries

I could care less about special teams punt and kickoff yards, as long as there is someone back there that can catch the ball, that’s fine with me. We’re not the bears, they need offense from special teams, we dont, not with this offensive production. Where we need to do a much better job is on punt and kickoff coverage

by Deke on Aug 2, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with the kick coverage aspect of your comment....

we need to shore that up this year….with the addition of many more talented tacklers (Zack, Jones, Jenkins, etc….hopefully we limit the return game of our oppositions….

field position is everything in football…...i wouldn’t undervalue a talented return game…...an extra 5-10+ yards per return adds up…

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by BoyzRback on Aug 2, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

especially when we have an elite kicker in FOLK. :)

by Scoobay on Aug 2, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

battling

Amendola, Jeffereson, Walden, Ball, and couple others are battling for spots.

I think Amendola ST’s ability is big plus.

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by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Returning punts is very helpful to his cause

Not alot of players can be effective back there.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 2, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deke you of all people know you can't use that logic

Why didn’t Tony Romo get drafted? Why did Tom Brady go so late he almost wasn’t drafted. I’m not saying Amendola is going to make the team or not make it. But whether he was drafted or not, the HC has called him “very competitve to make the team”.

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by dunkman on Aug 2, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes you have to be in the right place at the right time

It’s not an exact science and It’s alot of luck and if any position gets more attention, that’s the QB position. Tony Romo caught two teams eyes at the combine when he elected to go as an extra quarterback to throw, the cowboys and Denver seen something. It was luck that dallas signed him, I’m sure Tony’s agent said to him the best chance is in dallas since we had a plethora of mediocre Qbs and if it wasn’t for Pothead Quincy Carter, tony might not of made the roster that year. He was given time to develop. This is the big reason why I wish the league would expand the roster to 58 or 60, so you can take a chance on a player that can be given the time to develop. Right now, if you cant contribue on special teams, you dont make the roster.

As far as Brady goes, nobody in New Engand was high on him except one scout who was pulling to draft him from the fourth round on and it got pretty heated before Paoli and Belichick relented and took him.

I’m not saying Amendola cant develop into a nice slot receiver, but this notion that he’s going to come in and be on the game day 45 active roster as so many here are suggesting is just a stretch especially after one week in training camp. If the guy had that much ability, he wouldn’t of been passed over by 32 teams in the draft, He may develop, but I dont see him being a big contributor this year. I dont put alot of stock into what coaches say in press conferences, they are going to say the guy is horrible and not going to make the team. I’ve been hearing for two eyars carpenter is nothing but a bust and was only drafted because Bobby’s father was a friend of Bill’s,now that’s a big stretch. It appears now though that maybe in Carpenter’s third year he is showing some abillity that the scouts seen in him when we drafted him. Some were quick to label him a bust after one year but Amendola is an allpro by the press ths guy is getting on week into training camp.

by Deke on Aug 2, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see what you are saying

I agree, he’s unlikely to play much WR this season. Rookies WR from any source don’t do much in year one.

All that said, he may turn out to be something. The part that stuck with me was Phillips talking about how unusual it is for a WR to be able to cut without slowing down and that Amendola has that. It gets him separation that a lot of guys struggle to get, even speed burnewrs like Austin. Combined with running good patterns, excellent hands and football smarts, he has a shot.

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by dunkman on Aug 2, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree..sorta

..what about Marques Colston? not that fast, small school, almost not drafted, but in the right system, he did very well…why not Amendola?

by vy til i die on Aug 3, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're way off base Boyz, way off.

Stanback is the real deal, make no mistake about that.

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by Terry on Aug 2, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they're being patient with Stanback

because he’s being groomed to be an eventual #2, or even #1 down the road.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 2, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that

his chances increased with the release of TG. For whatever reason he didn’t go drafted, but I remember reading after the draft that many teams were interested in Amendola when the frenzy period of signing UFA was happening. Stanbach is a project we all know that. It doesn’t matter how much talent he has, beacause if he can’t make the transistion from QB to WR his time here is going to be short. There are alot of talented players in the NFL, but it doesn’t make them good players. Matt Jones was talented and fast, but look how that turned out.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 2, 2008 10:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there is no comparison

between Jones and Stanback, simply ridiculous comparison. Jones isn’t a tenth as talented as Stanabck.

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by Terry on Aug 2, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 totally agree with Terry here....again......where he gets that comparison from amazes me...

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by BoyzRback on Aug 2, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how can you say there is no comparison?

Both are converted QBs?

Both are fast and athletic.

Matt Jones has failed to this point. Stanback hasn’t shown a whole lot expect for getting injured. Right now they are really close in comparison until Stanback proves otherwise. Stanback has done absolutely nothing in the NFL to think he can be converted into a good WR in this league.

Nothing.

I hope the kid succeeds, but to call him a future #1 WR when he hasn’t made the transition to WR is down right crazy talk.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not crazy.

That’s why they drafted Stanback. Do you think they spent a 4th on him to develop him into a 3rd WR? No, they’re banking on his talent to be a #1 or #2

Jax didn’t take time to develop Matt Jones like the Steelers developed Ward, Randel-El, and maybe in the future, Dennis Dixon. I think the Cowboys are following Pitt’s plan.

Why are Cowboys fans like you such haters on their own team’s development? Don’t you know that WR is the toughest position to transition to for guys who have played WR their entire lives? Think about how hard it is for somebody from another position. College QBs have the best chance, but it’s still a long curve.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 years is enough time to know if he has what it takes

to make the move from QB to WR. No team has the luxury of waiting 5 years to find out, especially when Matt Jones was a first round draft pick.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, 3 years is plenty

We will all sure know by next year. There’s no way Dallas will keep Stanback around in 5 if he can’t crack the starting line up.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stanback will be in the pro bowl

in 5 years.

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by Terry on Aug 3, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not saying much

because the pro bowl is a joke. Let’s start with if the guy can play WR first then let’s talk about that.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Matt Jones problem is snorted up his nose

plus he wasn’t a guy that worked on the finer points of his position, it not just about speed that makes you a good player.

Stanback played some receiver in college his first year, so its not like he never played it. He was drafted because his measureables and athletic ability. last year was a red shirt year because of his foot injury so this is really his rookie camp, he will be here for atleast two more years. It’s up to him how he progresses as a receiver, if he willing to work hard and work on the finer points of that position and works on what Michael Irvin showed him last week, the sky is the limit, because the kid has a ton of talent and upside.

by Deke on Aug 2, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Amendola has a shot

and should not be compared to Stanback – two totally different players with different skill sets. Stanback wasn’t drafted to immediately contribute and by all we hear he is progressing nicely. Amendola intrigues me because he seems so polished in his route running but he may be a guy that is already at his ceiling. He may get a bit better but just doesn’t have the upside that an athlete like Stanback does.

Anyone remember the first hard knocks where Hutchinson had a roomate WR who was similar to Amendola – not an athletic freak but had a ton of heart and competed hard. He got cut and was never heard from again so as much I like to hear about Amendola’s progress and stellar camp so far, I 100% trust the coaches the guys paid to make these decisions. Whether or not this guy makes the team, it will be analyzed and discussed to death, not decided based on one or two days of practice.

by Billito on Aug 2, 2008 6:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Having come late to the party

There is good give and take here.

I was just thinking:

Owens 3rd round
Crayton 7th round QB
Hurd UFA
Austin UFA
Stanback 4th round QB
Amendola UFA

If these are our WRs and it looks about right from Dave’s reports, then where a WR was drafted is pretty irrelevant. Especially since Cowboys have a shot at the record books in the passing game, there must be something to passing on 1st round WRs. Sure I would like to have Calvin Johnson or Roy Williams or Larry Fitzgerald but with so much money into those WRs their teams have to skimp somewhere else and none of the teams owning those players is considered a strong playoff team.

I also think the discussion of which player excels in the year over the others is premature. We have not even seen a pre-season game. And only two of these six have proven themselves in the regular season. Crayton has been my pet cat since before his rookie training camp. TO is the best. With Witten playing receiver #2, those three, when healthy, will make most of the catches. In fact TO’s 131, Wittens’s 99 and Crayton’s 50 catches dwarf the 5 and 19 catches by Austin and Hurd last year. Expect more of the same.

by lee3022 on Aug 3, 2008 2:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good points.

Some people on this thread seem to forget that Crayton had to develop just as Stanback is and he’s doing just fine with the transition now.

Looking at your list shows how resourceful Dallas has been at WR. Looks like it compare to the Hoffman’s Kickers we had here in the 90s!

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way too much love for Stanback

Not denying that he’s going to make the squad this year. But to annoint a 4th round draftee, originally a QB, who has barely played the WR position as the future #1 for the Cowboys is a bit too much.

Sure, he’s athletic and good with the ball in open space, but does he still have the instincts to play WR and catch the ball/run precise routes? Optimistically, I see him as a great #2 in the near future.

The Cowboys next #1 is going to be drafted in 2009. Bank on that.

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by accidental innuendo on Aug 3, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and that #1 in 2009 won't develop into a pro WR until 2011.

By then, Stanback should be a cog in this offense. Be patient with Stanback, as Dallas is. He’ll come along slow (like Crayton) and that’s fine. We’ve got TO for at least a couple years. Don’t have to rush him.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 accidental

Some people are just delusional

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

-1

Some people just have faith in their team’s plans.

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by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Misplaced faith

Is common when evaluating players on your FAVORITE team. Look dude, Stanback can succeed TO, and I will happily eat my hat. But at this point, it doesn’t look like he’s the one or that he is going to be.

I agree that he may well turn into an important part of the offense, but touting him as the the next best thing since sliced bread is premature.

And what’s wrong with having faith that the Cowboys will draft a stud WR that will be our next #1?

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by accidental innuendo on Aug 3, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The odds are fairly high that the Cowboys will draft a first day WR next draft....

barring injuries to other key positions….Look for them to address WR, OL, DL, and S early next year to offset possible free agent loses, cap casualties, and to improve overall team depth.

I predict our #1 next year will go to the best available OL or WR on the board, or packaged in a trade to move up for the best OL or WR…......

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by BoyzRback on Aug 3, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you may be right

but I think it depends on how the young WRs perform this year. Drafting even a very good WR is still a 2-3 project in most cases. If they feel like everyone behind Owens continue to improve very well, and really show some good stuff this year, they may end up feeling comfortably with the development curve they have. They may very well take a WR in day 1, but I wouldn’t say it’s a sure thing depending on how the young studs look this year.

by scottmaui on Aug 3, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true......this year is very vital and a pivotal part of our WR development...

After this season….we’ll know what we have in Hurd and Austin…..Stanback will makes strides….maybe Amendola or Jefferson makes it….but we should have a good read on where we stand by the end of this year…..either we go after an elite #2…or draft a top flight rookie…..or we stand pat with what we have and bolster up another postion early in the draft…

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 3, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1
Look dude, Stanback can succeed TO, and I will happily eat my hat. But at this point, it doesn’t look like he’s the one or that he is going to be.

Exactly and so will I. The kid has a long long way to go before then. Right now he is hanging on to the #5 WR spot by a thread.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How big is your hat, cowboy?

(my best John Wayne imitation)

by lee3022 on Aug 3, 2008 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He and Amendola can be 5a and 5b.

They can rotate them on a weekly basis or per matchup forecast.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 4, 2008 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't think banking that a 1st round pick will become the next #1 is premature?

That player isn’t even thought of yet. C’mon. This isn’t a 5-11 team where the talent level at the bottom of the roster is garbage. Dallas castoffs get jobs elsewhere. The Cowboys have the luxury of being able to gamble on developing talent such as Stanback. My favorite football team is coming off a 13-3 season and happens to be favored to represent the conference in the Superbowl. My faith is firmly placed in the logic that this organization knows what it’s doing right now.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 4, 2008 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 4, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why risk a pick on WR in the first rd

when we have several good prospects already on the roster, doesn’t make sense to me, unless a stud college WR falls into our laps at #32 which is highly unlikely.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 4, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You just

gotta trade into the 8-15 area and get you some Michael Crabtree. By next year this team may be willing to give up some picks to make that happen.

W: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

by hubcityraider on Aug 7, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crabtree is a bad ass

I would love for Dallas to somehow take him. That’s only based on what I’ve seen of him on TV.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Aug 8, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

accidental you're way off base

Cowboys won’t draft a WR high next season because he’s already on the roster, that is something you can bank on.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 3, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so sure of it.

kinda off-putting.

W: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

by hubcityraider on Aug 7, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember....

Drew Pearson wasn’t drafted either…

by SmittyCityMo on Aug 3, 2008 1:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can count on my one hand how many players

were real succesful going from QB to WR so that’s not saying much.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"94" you've just got you're mind made up

and it’s a pointless debate just to try to persuade you to see what the Cowboys are doing. That new article on him on DC.com is pretty good. I’d give it a recommend.

Have a good Sunday. We’ve got some Skins to scout tonight, not to mention some possible backup QBs.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want the guy to succeed

but to call him a #1 Wr is a bit much. When he shows us all something let’s get excited, but unitl then keep the expectations toned down a bit is what I’m saying.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said I think they were GROOMING him to be a #1 or #2.

They have special plans for him, which means he’s not gonna be some Skylar Green-type roster casualty. With this coaching staff, and Jerry foresight, they know that if they want this success to last you got to keep developing your own players. And what’s great is that there’s star-studded players ahead of them to learn from.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 4, 2008 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nobody called Stanback a #1 WR

right now, i said he definitely has the potential to be one, big difference.

I’m excited about his potential which is simply off the charts, much more so than your boy Danny.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 4, 2008 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1...an excellent article.....on Stanback...
pointless debate
– ain’t that the truth.

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 3, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it will be 2 hands

after Stanback does it.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 3, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man we do love to speculate

Can tell the season is getting close and the fans desperate for some action when the discussion of a couple #5-6 WRs gets 150 comments!

Bottom line for me…

Stanback is certainly going to make the roster. His natural athleticism means he has a huge upside and IF he can continue to develop, he could eventually be a #1 receiver. BUT he is still very raw, and has a very long way to go. All indications are that the coaches are pleased with his progress, though, and he is developing faster than they expected, which is a good sign. I would expect limited production from him this year, but I think he will get some good playing time in preseason, and what he shows there will probably determine how much opportunity he gets on the field this year. But ultimately I look for him to contribute more significantly next season and to not really even start to reach his potential for 2-3 years. As long as he continues to progress they’ll give him that chance because of his huge upside.

With Amendola, I think at this point he’s got the inside track for that #6 spot if they keep one (and he’s competing not just against the other WRs but also against all the other last roster spots), which will probably depend on how well he plays in the preseason, and how well he can contribute on special teams. Being a backup punt and kick returner, with a lot of return experience in college, will serve him well, but if his quickness can give him the ability to contribute on coverage units and he can tackle reasonably well, that will really help him win that spot.

With both these guys, keep an eye out for them in the preseason, and we’ll know a lot more once they’ve played in those four games.

by scottmaui on Aug 3, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

I’m not saying Stanback’s ready to be a #1 anytime within the next coupla years, but I think the team is grooming him for that role. He’s way raw, but that’s okay. They’re in no rush right now, especially if he can contribute a first down here and there. Patience grasshopper.

As far as Amendola goes, he’s got qualities unmatched by the other WRs on the roster. He’s little, quick, and shifty which will create different opportunities at his position much like Felix will at the RB position. That being said, maybe they’ll switch him on and off the active roster with Stanback, provided he makes the team.

Yeah, we fans have a lot of passion for the bottom of the roster, especially with as intriguing WRs as these guys.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 4, 2008 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I probably just gave hakrjak

the most hits on this blog…...lol

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 3, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lol.....ouch......

so true though…..

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 3, 2008 5:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One more point

I think Crayton gets overlooked. When AJ was interviewed early in camp about lining up to get TO he said TO and Crayton are the two he looks for because he wants to practice against the best. He also said Crayton is very different from TO and very effective.

So Crayton may be a future #1 receiver. At the moment he has the inside track!

by lee3022 on Aug 3, 2008 11:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL -- You guys are ridiculous!

Out here predicting that Stanback will become the next dynasty #1 receiver for the Cowboys. haha… I doubt that guy will even make the team this year with all the talent we have. I’d rather see them keep an extra corner, and start letting T-New and Adam run some routes than see this guy on the depth chart again.

Bottom line is—the dude is a project player that did not work out. Time to cut bait on him and make room for the new guys.

- Hakrjak

by hakrjak on Aug 7, 2008 4:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He is a project player

I give him one more season. If he doesn’t show something this season he will be an ex-cowboy this time next year.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 8, 2008 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you make no sense

you don’t give project players only 2 seasons to show something. Hell, teams give high draft picks at least 3 years to show something (see Carp) for crying out loud.

Stanback will be a Cowboy for years to come.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 9, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

then Stanback has one more year

This is his second so at best he has one more. He didn’t look too good tonight so don’t count on him being here long term. It wasn’t a promising perfomance from what I heard.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 10, 2008 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He caught a pass or 2, I think.

He looked better as a WR and had a pretty nice end around. Just needs to handle the ball more at every single special teams practice.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 10, 2008 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you didn't even watch the game Cowboy81.....Stanback showed me quite a bit tonight...

showed he runs with power, accelleration, and fluidity…....this guy is just at the beginning of unlocking a boat load of athletism and given reps with the first team, I assure you he’d be terrorizing db’s on the field….....can’t judge him with ole rag arm Brad and Bartel tossing garbage his way….

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 10, 2008 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been on the team one season

Injured most of it and trying to learn to be an NFL WR. You’d cut a 4th round pick based on that???

The Cowboys knew he’d be a project, and they liked him enough to draft him that high. I think he’s on the team at least 2 more seasons even if he doesn’t become a starter.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Aug 8, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

This isn’t Skylar Green we’re talkin about.

That #38 sure can hit!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 8, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amendola

Might have a hard time showing his stuff, with the the team trying to figure out what they have in Austin, Stanback, and Hurd…

"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 10, 2008 3:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fumbling a punt return surely put him on the bubble.....

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 10, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably didn't help, but

didn’t hurt either. He’s not here to return punts. He’s going to make this team because of his ball catching skills, not special teams play.

Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 10, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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