Cowboys interested in Simms as backup?
by jacksastud on Jul 29, 2008 11:04 PM CDT
129 comments
So Ed Werder of ,ESPN fame, is reporting on the late sportscenter that the Boys might be interested in Chris Simms as a back up alternative if the Buc's back off their asking price of a 4th round pick in exchange. So my questions are as follows....
-is Brad Johnson still alive and with us?
-Chris or Brad as a back-up?
We may have super bowl dreams, but the reality is we are one blind side sack away from having to load up on the back of either an old man who belongs in bingo parlor or the young fella who has more buisness calling bingo than playing in the NFL.
Another user-created commentary provided by a BTB reader.
3 recs |
129 comments
Email
Print
Comments
give up the 5th if that is the cost
I am just not sure he is healthy, if he is 100% it is a no-brainer IMO..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 29, 2008 11:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
These can't be the only options.
Why does Indy have to have Gray AND Lorezon. Throw us a bone (or at least Sorgi), you’re QB will be back and those guys will just rot.
Of course, Simms is more intriguing than Brad because he's new. If we had him-all coming off a crazy injury and all-and we saw Brad out there as the best option, he might look just as good.Either way, it sucks. Dallas needs a Bernie Kosar, a Rodney Peete, a Randall Cunningham.
Bartel doesn’t sound good at all. And Terre..I mean #10…please.
Any other suggestions out there? Vinny?
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 30, 2008 12:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Drunken block quote mistake killed my point.
Something like—if we had Simms with his injury and Brad was available, he’d look as hopeful as Simms is now.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 30, 2008 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Dangerous to drink and block quote at the same time.
I don’t think we need to give up any picks for Simms, he’s going to be cut. If TB wants to squeeze a pick from Dallas, put something better up there.
Keep the picks and see who’s available after Aug 30th, the day rosters have to be cut to 53.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Jul 30, 2008 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One Problem
If you wait til final cuts, you get a backup guy who doesn’t know the offense early in the season, and if something happens then, you might as well just resign Brad off the street because you’ll have to cut back the offense til the new guy learns things.
Tom Grieve is my hero.
by tasan on Jul 30, 2008 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'll probably keep Brad on the roster anyway
Then add whoever as the #3 QB.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Jul 30, 2008 5:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
They’ll keep 3 Qb’s on the active roster
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Jul 30, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Simms is better than Johnson
arm strength isn’t everything at the qb position.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 30, 2008 7:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh how I miss Matt Moore
That was a bit of an oopsie to try and sneek that guy to the practice squad last year.
by Impatient on Jul 30, 2008 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather trade for him than Simms.
Maybe Carolina will feel they don’t need him as much with a healthy Delhomme.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 30, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson
I think for a small, very small amount of time, we can ride our D, our running game, and a short passing game to enough weapons if Romo goes down, and I would rather have Johnson ‘managing’ that type of game.
However any significant amount of time lost by Romo and our season is shot anyway, NEITHER Johnson or Simms are going to come in and play half the season and get us to the superbowl.
Romo could miss a few games, say 4, we would proably lose 2 of those 4, that would certainly cost us homefield throughout and a bye, however we could possibly salvage the division and a home playoff game. Get Romo back and be full strength in the playoffs….
any more time lost than that and we are DONE!
by stephena on Jul 30, 2008 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I prefer
Simms he lead a team to the playoffs in 05, Brad hasn’t lead a team to the playoffs since 02.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 30, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, that was 3 years ago before his injury
Simms is garbage and there’s no way he’d lead us to the playoffs.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 30, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO
Brad is garbage now, I wish he had an excuse like an injury.. Did you watch his last year in Minnestoa, the guy was horrible? Best thing Brad can do is hold for FG’s.
Simms is garbage and there’s no way he’d lead us to the playoffs.
You can now tell the future? Can I get some Lotto numbers?
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 30, 2008 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Johnson can get us by for a short period of time, but there’s no qb out there who is going to come in and perform well enough to get us in the playoffs if Romo gets seriously hurt.
If our OL is as good as I think they are, this is a problem we shouldn’t be the least bit concerned about.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 30, 2008 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If
Todd Collins can do it on the Skins, someone can do it on the Cowboys…
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 30, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Collins is an employable backup, there isn’t a street FA unemployed as good as Collins.
Trading a draft pick for a backup is a waste IMO when the chances are slim that person will ever see the field.
BTW, you saw how quickly the Skins were eliminated from the playoffs as well.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 30, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Collins was a perfect fit for the skins
because of his history with their complex offensive scheme. He knew it better than Campbell…We don’t have someone with a history with Garrett do we?
by Cal in DC on Aug 3, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better to wait on Tampa
They have other QBs I’d rather have that might become available. I’d rather give a 5th rounder for Gradkowski than Simms (though I do think we need to improve the #2 QB). If not for the bad blood between him and TO, I would say bring in Garcia if Tampa lands Favre and Garcia is willing to sign as a backup.
Otherwise I think we can just wait for Indy to cut Lorenzen or Sorgi. I wouldn’t mind Lorenzen for his Giants knowledge.
by grapejoos on Jul 30, 2008 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe Garcia would want to be a backup
But If he did we would be set at QB.
by CounterEMF on Jul 30, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grad plays for St. Louis
I’d rather give a 6 rounder or nothing at all for Gradkowski he will be fighting for a job in St Louis – Bulger- T Green – Brock Berlin then Gradkowski
there will be good QB’s out there who will get cut
by GimmyJ on Jul 30, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what will happen.
I know this because it always happens. Jerry has already tipped his hand to TB. Everyone knew that they were going to eventually dump Simms, and he could have been had for nothing. Now that they’re on to us, Jerry will bid against himself until he convinces himself that Chris Simms is worth a 4th rounder this year and a conditional pick next year. This sound familiar to anyone?
by Mandmeisterx on Jul 30, 2008 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnson would really have to suck in preseason
for that to ever happen, and I mean really suck.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 30, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From everything I've read,
he’s really sucking in TC. If you can’t throw passes in the flat without one hopping them, you have no place being an NFL QB.
by Mandmeisterx on Jul 30, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, that's not a pretty picture
But I really hope we don’t give TB jack squat for Simms. At most a 2010 conditional draft pick, if he passes a thorough check up, and has an impressive workout.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Jul 30, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had a spleenectomy
Removal of his spleen and he may still have symptoms from it
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Jul 30, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What kind of problems might that cause?
Sorry if my question sounds stupid it’s not meant to be.
by CounterEMF on Jul 30, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problems
In healthy people, the spleen plays a role in immunity against bacterial infections. The spleen is in the uppermost area of the left side of the abdomen, just under the diaphragm. It typically has attachments to the stomach, left kidney, and colon.
http://www.drugs.com/enc/spleen-removal.html
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad allready sucks
we only in practice, & cant complete any passes with any consistincy, what will happen against another team tryn to kill him.(i dont want too picture that). We know there’s a problem there, i just want to address it before its too late.
not totally down on Brad, #3 QB is ok for now.(holding for field goals & xtra pts. excellent)
Assuming nothing could happen to Romo: we cant go into the season unprepared like that.
not sure who, but confident we”ll fiqure it out.
by bleedn blu on Jul 30, 2008 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brad sucks...period...end of subject.....
Dante Culpepper, Leftwich, anyone besides Brad Johnson….I am all for waiting till the last week of camp and taking on a suprise QB cut (JP Losman, Joey Harrington)......keep Brad for a week or two , then cut him and insert the new guy…..Culpepper, with no practice, no play book, is better than Brad in his prime for pete’s sake…...If Farve goes to Tampa…..someone will have to be released….Griese, Simms, Garcia
Brad must GO….been saying it since the day we signed him…..HE’s Horrible.
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Jul 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Harrington would be the best of those options.
Don’t see Garcia wanting to be a backup if Favre goes to TB
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 31, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
Harrington is an excellent backup qb
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will not be cut
Neither will Losman.. Teams aren’t cutting quality back-ups..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outrageous
Culpepper, with no practice, no play book, is better than Brad in his prime for pete’s sakeHave you seen Culpepper play since he left Minnesota? I’d take him as a backup, but the guy sucks now. Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl. Just a ludicrous statement.
by grapejoos on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree
Brad Johnson isn’t as bad as most BTB fans think. Sure, he doesn’t have a great arm, but usually makes all the right decisions on where to throw the ball and thats more important
The guy has a ton of experience which is what you want in a backup.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 31, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Stinks
Culpepper would be better, but there is no point in debating, culpepper isn’t signing with Dallas, and if he does it be a sad day because something bad had to happen for him to sign here.
He is waiting on Aaron Rodgers to do what he normally does and sign in GB.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just because he has a stronger arm
doesn’t mean he’s better.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 31, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i never referenced arm strength
Now that you mention it the fact that Brad has the arm of 10 yr old, makes ir rough for him to compete in the NFL..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well thats what you obviously were
referring to, his arm strength because in all other areas of playing qb Johnson is highly superior.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 31, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
high superior
Only thing he is highly superior in is place holding.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for TERRY
1. Brad Johnson. He’s looked pretty good the last two days, threw a nice deep ball in the morning practice on Wednesday. He seems to always make the right play.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen Culpepper play ???? would have been 2006 MVP if it wasn't for Peyton's fantastic record breaking season.
You saw him playing in Miami, completely unhealthy, on one leg, trying to be competitive with absolutely no o line or viable offensive weapons…....then in Oakland, still not fully recovered, with a dysfunctional team, no offensive line, and even worse offensive weapons…...your point ?
ludicrous you say?? yet you say you’d take him as a back up…......dude ?? but he sucks now ??
I assure you, you put Culpepper behind our behemouth O line, and give him TO and Witten, and MBIII and Crayton and Felix ….and he would take us to the playoffs…..I am positive of this…...Does Brad Johnson take us to a winning record ??...I am positively sure we would have a losing record if Brad had to play any substantial games this year….
Have you seen Brad Johnson throw ??? ....since his so called Super Bowl, and he wasn’t all that WAY back then either….and I’m a FSU fan…......come on guy, I expect better from you joos.
If you don’t think Culpepper was/is/can be a better back up QB option than a 40 year old, rag armed, joke of a back up named Brad Johnson, you aren’t really keeping up with the times guy.
The only position we CAN NOT afford to lose our starter is at QB…..the one position that is completely unaddressed going into camp…..I’d take Quincy Carter over Brad Johnson….and you have no idea how much that pains me to say. IF Romo goes down….so does ANY hope whatsoever of us winning anything.
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 1, 2008 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I got news for you Boyz
Culpepper isn’t leading us to the playoffs anymore than Johnson. There is a reason he’s unemployed, he’s washed up.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2008 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a belated reply, but...
I agree, Culpepper was great in Minnesota. One of the best in the league. He had one of the greatest seasons ever for a QB. But the guy you saw in Miami and Oakland is what he is now. A guy who hasn’t been the same since his injury, convinced of his own abilities, and who doesn’t know his team or its scheme particularly well. He’d be the same thing here.
Frankly, Minnesota should bring the guy back. In my opinion, Culpepper is finished, and he’s certainly not ready to embrace being a backup.
by grapejoos on Aug 6, 2008 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's sorry, plain and simple.
I could see him being like Donovon in the locker room. If it ain’t his team, he will complain.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 31, 2008 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm talkin bout Culpepper btw
would rather just keep Brad and Bartel.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 31, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you just assuming?
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming based on the mouth he had on him in Minn.
The dude wants to start, so there’s no way he’s coming to Dallas anyways.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Jul 31, 2008 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Jul 31, 2008 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HUH ?......mouth he had ? where do you come up with this garbage ?
Culpepper is not, will not be a starting QB anywhere this year…..so you think he is just going to roll over and quit the NFL ????.....the dude wants to be paid, he wants a ring, he would fit in very well here…..if he came here , he would clearly know he isn’t the starter, won’t be the starter, he can only learn the system and be ready to play if called upon…...a stronger arm ?? sure, more mobile ??...sure…bigger, faster, stronger, better than our options now…?....sure he is…......NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
how in the world would you not welcome that ??
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 1, 2008 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I'm not a fan of his.
I think that right now Dallas is trying to fill the team with players who have UPSIDE. They already have a QB going downhill. But Brad has more backup experience than Culpepper and I doubt he has pipe dreams anymore about throwing for 3000 yards.
Culpepper’s too high maintenance. How can you not see that? We already have a media darling in Romo. But he’s a team guy. The star on the side of these helmets would run Culpepper out of town. His career is shaky, his knee is shaky, probably his confidence too.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 1, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Phillips agrees with me
Phillips said he’s leaning toward keeping Brad Johnson as the primary backup to Romo. He loves the fact that Johnson has led a team to a Super Bowl and thinks people make too much of his lack of arm strength.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/columns/story?columnist=mosley_matt&id=3511029
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 1, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll trust that Wade knows
what his best option is right now. Guys coming off major injuries are so “iffy”. If he can do this, If he can do that. It’s a waste of time to wait around for some comeback player when you’re focus is winning now.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 1, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think Dallas picks up a 3rd QB
Either a young guy with big upside, or a vet with a minimum 5 years in the league.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Aug 1, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Simms isn’t worth a draft pick. Signing him as a FA would be a waste of perfectly good ink and paper. He’s awful, simply does not have what it takes to be an NFL QB. He whined at Texas for having to backup Applewhite and then he whined at TB for having to backup Garcia. When he’s not whining, he’s choking away big games by either fumbling or throwing 5 ints. He cannot handle the pressure of big games, nor can he avoid pass rush. He needs to go back to NJ and fade away.
by GimmyJ on Aug 1, 2008 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am over it..
I disagree, but it doesn’t matter he is not coming here. I am sure he would to be traded to a team where he would have a chance to start..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 1, 2008 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only time tampa bay..
...went to the playoffs w/ him, they would’ve won if that receiver hadn’t DROPPED the TD pass that simply went through his hands..if a playoff game isn’t a big game, then i don’t know what is
by vy til i die on Aug 1, 2008 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should have a shot at..
Jared Lorenzen and Quinn Gray.. I imagine when Indy makes cuts they will keep Sorgi and cut both..
Give me Gray
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MAYB ENOT..
What we do know is Jim Sorgi will see more time than if Peyton Manning were playing, and that’s a good thing. After watching Sorgi look mediocre (and sometimes downright bad) in practice, he needs to prove he is a legit NFL QB
The QBs: Jim Sorgi was not sharp at all and Jarod Lorenzen flat out sucked. Of the three QBs, Quinn Gray looked the most sharp. MRW was very impressed with Gray, writing in his notes that Gray threw with confidence, good zip, and strong velocity. Gray’s got a strong arm, and does well with the pump fakes.
Quinn Gray continued to impress. He made a nice TD throw to Devin Aromashodu in one scrimmage. It was a thread-the-needle throw with lots of zip. Dungy reacted after the throw and liked what he saw
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing they'll cut Lorenzen and keep the other 2
With Manning shaky and Gray playing well, I think he finds a roster spot.
by grapejoos on Aug 6, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's trade for Sorgi if Brad blows this Saturday!
He’d seem to fit this passing attack in Dallas.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorgi blows just as much as Brad
so why waste a draft pick?
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 6, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's really that bad
then why has Indy kept him around so long?
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because he's cheap and manning never gets hurt
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 6, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
c'mon Terry.....the dude is more an adequate (Sorgi), and his career stats, although minimal to go from are respectable....
So esentially you have nothing to go by to come to the conclusion he sucks….......
He looked sharp in preseason game #1, although I heard in practice Gray was outperforming him….....and Sorgi is WAY better than 40 year old Brad Johnson, ion fact…I’d take any other back up on any other team over Brad….
......how you keep defending Brad is beyond me…..even Jerry is squimish thinking about it…....IF Farve is indeed traded to Tampa Bay or the Jets…....be damn sure that Jerry will be on the phone taking whatever leftover they want to throw our way…..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 6, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
If Gray beats out Sorgi, Dallas should bring him in to back up Brad.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean Tony, ha ha.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boyz, Sorgi is not better than Brad
why you think all these scrubs you mention are better than Brad is beyond me.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 7, 2008 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cuz Brad is scrub #1.......you'll see saturday night....
Sorgi …..career passing rating of 90.4 ??? ......i guess that’s scrub material to you….huh ?
Career stats :
Romo: attempts
857
Sorgi: projected to 857 attempts at current pace:
completion percentage:
Romo: 64.8
Sorgi: 61.4
ave yards per attempt:
Romo: 8.3
Sorgi: 6.0
TD passes:
Romo: 55
Sorgi: 41
INTs:
Romo: 32
Sorgi: 6
Sacks:
Romo: 45
Sorgi: 36
QB rating, career:
Romo: 96.5
Sorgi: 90.4
side note:
Aikman: 81.6
Brad Johnson: 83.1
fumbles:
Romo: 5
Sorgi: 6
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 7, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quality info
I think they keep Sorgi and Gray, but they would probably release Gray 1st since Sorgi knows the offense..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 7, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
word has it out of Colts camp that Gray is doing well......and he sure looked damn good to me...
but i’m sure everyone would disagree with bringing in Gray here as well…..leaving us with ‘ole rag arm Johnson…oh boy
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 7, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like Gray to come in for at least a look
He’s never going to be a threat to unseat Romo, but he can come in on the fly and fill in if needed. They can even keep ol Brad as the official 2nd string QB so he can hold for FG and extra points, but if God forbid anything happens to Romo, Gray goes in and Brad can back him up.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Aug 8, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
problem is Tom that
Gray will more than likely make the Colts team as Manning’s backup. I’d be surprised if they cut him.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 8, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with Terry
They say Peyton will be healthy, but Gray is cheap insurance policy..
Gray is ideal, but I don’t see it..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 8, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree, Colts will probably hold on to him
But if they did cut him, I hope Dallas brings him in for a look before we miss out for the 3rd time this off-season.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Aug 8, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting stats
But I must say, that’s a whole lot of projecting for a guy who has thrown 126 attempts in his career. 6 TDs to 1 INT is promising, but it’s not going to be 41 TDs to 6 INTs if he plays all the time.
I would bet that Indy keeps Sorgi and Gray, cuts everyone else not named Manning.
by grapejoos on Aug 8, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT...
Sorgi—-41TD to 6! INT..no way
by vy til i die on Aug 12, 2008 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you do the math....
this is merely a projection based on his production thus far after 126 passing attempts, and how it would translate over 857 attempts at his current rate…fact is, he’s throw only 1 INT in 126 pass attempts….that alone is pretty impressive for a QB….starter or not…....we need a back up that can hand off the ball, and not turn it over…..manage the game….that’s all….simple…..Sorgi fits the bill….
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 12, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gray is good.
Jerry and Co. should’ve listened to BTB regulars bout a month ago. Darn it!
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 3, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I don’t understand why they didn’t even bring him in for a look.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Aug 3, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You see his TD pass today?
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 3, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I thought he looked good
He was great at moving outside the pocket and extending the play. I didn’t get to see Sorgi, so I don’t know if he did anything good or bad, but I saw the Hefty Lefty and he stunk it up against 3rd & 4th string defense. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Colts held on to Gray.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Aug 3, 2008 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gray did look good.
Made me jealous. Both those teams tonight had really deep QB positions with seasoned vets and youngsters.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 4, 2008 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still hoping for Paul Smith as the 3rd QB with upside :)
As a Tulsa ‘07 alum I have to say I really hope somebody jump on Smith and I hope its the Boys. It was amazing to be able to watch for years of development. He always had the heart to dive for first downs, the brains and feet to avoid pass rushes, keep plays alive and inspire his team. He’s played and won big games, engineered big time comebacks, and has dealt with learning entirely new schemes during his tenure. He’s a high character individual who is a model citizen and just seemingly good guy. And though i’m definitely biased, he really does remind me alot of Romo. It seems like he was missing the accuracy he had in Tulsa at the Jags camp, but he’s a smart QB who doesn’t force balls unless he has to in real game situations.
by YoGurt on Aug 3, 2008 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I really hope Dallas cuts the current #4QB, and gives Paul Smith a chance to show what he can do.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Aug 3, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2 ...why they haven't amazes me ....I think it was Garrett's doing to get this Princeton kid on the roster...
but man….....All I know is that the kid’s been stinking it up…why waste the reps on this kid who has absolutely no shot of sticking here…...Paul Smith is very similiar to Romo with his playmaking ability….
I am very uncomfortable with our QB depth…..VERY
I know Jerry is not satisfied with what we have behind Romo…...please do something Jerry…I BEG of you…do not take another chance with Brad as our #2 QB…countless sleepless nights just thinking of a possible Romo injury that would destroy all hopes of winning a championship…....
I’d drag Jeff George off the scrap heap and feel more comfortable than I do now with Brad….
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 3, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JAX got rid of Gray and P.Smith this offseason
Are they really high on Cleo Lemon and Todd Bouman as backups? Gray looked solid when he came in last year.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 4, 2008 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lemon is money.. bouman, not so much.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 4, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah
Man with all the reclamation projects on our roster why not call in George for a backup? He would be so stoked to be employed that I know he would be a good citizen and that would be a backup that would help me and Boyzrback sleep at night. Good call.
by Billito on Aug 3, 2008 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Please Romo stay healthy.
"We have nothing to fear but fear of tigers."-tiger attack survivor
by octopus on Aug 3, 2008 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he will cause our OL is tough
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 4, 2008 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
if not brining Gray in for a look had to do with salary cap concerns? JJ knew they had a bunch of guys to re-sign plus the draft picks and didn’t know how it was all going to play out. Just a thought.
by WB3forMB3 on Aug 4, 2008 8:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
gray doesn't command much of salary..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 4, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Granted but
until they got TO resigned/restructured and Hamlin signed, there wasn’t alot of room. Plus you always need to leave yourself some space going onto the season just in case.
by WB3forMB3 on Aug 4, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too much love for Gray here....
Gray is OK, but he’s still very rough, unpolished, and too eager to dance around back there to the sidelines - buying way too much time and tiring his his O-Line, and then zipping uncatchable balls down the sidelines…. His receivers must hate that guy! Last year when I was chilling in a Vegas sports lounge on MNF - their 1st round QB got injured, and Gray came in against Indy, I was exstatic as he stunk it up the whole night and I ended up winning $500 I had on Indy.
by hakrjak on Aug 4, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
quinn gray
Wow you expect him to come in look like Peyton in his 1st action of the season vs. Super Bowl champs. High expectations?
I do believe he won 2 of the next 3 games he started for them. That would be good enough for me..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 4, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed..
...but last time I checked..David Garrard was their QB, and he was a fourth round draft pick..you must be thinking Leftwich (they cut him before the season)
I don’t think Gray is all that good, but he STILL is better than Johnson
by vy til i die on Aug 5, 2008 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lorenzen did suck last night!
p.s. —Lorenzen did look like a big fat guy out there last night… That dude needs to hit the treadmill and try a celery stick sometime. Jesus, I didn’t think they would let a guy that fat even step on the field in the NFL… haha
by hakrjak on Aug 4, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Assuming Favre stays in GB
Why not offer GB their 7th round pick back for Matt Flynn before they end up having to cut him?
by WB3forMB3 on Aug 4, 2008 5:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we should steal him away when they go to put him on the practice squad....
seriously….I see them keeping 4 QB’s on their roster if he plays well in preseason…...IF Farse..umm..i mean Farve sticks around….
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 4, 2008 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 QBs on the roster?
I didnt realize Jon Gruden had taken over as the GB head coach :) Favre staying may be a pretty big IF though. I still think there’s a damn good chance of them trading him, just for spite. What a nightmare thats turned into. I do not envy Ted Thompson or Mike McCarthy right now.
by WB3forMB3 on Aug 4, 2008 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farve has destroyed his legacy....GB is having one long nightmare right now....
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 5, 2008 6:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Favre wont play another game for the packers
That relationship is heading for a divorce. I think Favre will now accept a trade very soon to the bucs and that should make Simms expendable for Jerry to sign when he’s cut.
I like the fact the Packers are getting all the negative media play for a change.
by Deke on Aug 5, 2008 5:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
win win
We get Simms and Favre leaves a team he lead to the NFC championship game.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 5, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like he's going to Tampa.
Their odds are the lowest, at least, with a 5-1 odds. NYJets at 8-1, but could be 11-1 by tomorrow. Vikes at 25-1 and Bears at 35-1.
The jets mudder may have been a mudder, though.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 5, 2008 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we play tampa this year..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 5, 2008 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Dallas I hope.
Pump up this “D” to keep his winless-in-Texas-Stadium-streak active forever.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 5, 2008 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garcia is the one that becomes expendable, as well as Simms...and i'd certainly prefer Garcia....
Garcia has guts, and a will to win…. he’ll certainly demand a release or trade if Farve is signed…...and he won’t be getting any starting offers elsewhere…...perfect backup in my book…....the new TO accepts him with open arms..maybe they’ll bunk together to squash those fag rumors…..lol…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 5, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd be great, but
he wants to compete for a starting position while he still can. He’d be a good candidate to move on up to Minny or Chi-town.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 5, 2008 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
garcia
Is too valuable to release, they might throw him in trade….
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 6, 2008 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I thought of that.
Wouldn’t that be funny if GB traded Favre for Garcia and a draft pick and Garcia ended up beating Aaron Rodgers for the starting job?
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garcia and T.O. don't mix
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 6, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be worried if Garcia went to minny
That guy seems to always have the cowboys number. The only time I remember beating him was when he was a brown.
by Billito on Aug 6, 2008 7:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
If Farve ends up in TB, Garcia will end up in MIN, and he would be a better fit there. If I was Garcia, I’d have my bags packed and one foot out the door.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Aug 6, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is why he's in New York and not Tampa
When you see that clause about forfeiting 3 first round picks if the Jets trade him to Minnesota, it’s clear that GB was concerned with 2 things: first, not playing against Favre, and second, not doing anything that could make Minnesota better.
by grapejoos on Aug 7, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I for one thank them
for not letting Minnesota get any better. That defensive line of theirs is pretty scary, at least on paper.
by WB3forMB3 on Aug 8, 2008 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I love the trade – nobody in the NFC gets better. I hope Pennington doesn’t go to Minny, but he’s not that scary (and a bad fit for their WRs…with speedsters like they have, they need a guy that can throw it down the field).
by grapejoos on Aug 8, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Pennington does go to Minn
he’ll definitely make that team worse.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 8, 2008 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2009 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
