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Should Dallas Cowboys reconsider Terry Glenn?

All offseason the media and fans have been harping on the notion that the Cowboys needed to add a big play receiver opposite Terrell Owens to really compete for the Super Bowl this year. Folks weren't comfortable with the notion of Patrick Crayton as the number two receiver, especially after his sure hands suddenly turned to butter in the playoffs. The argument against adding a receiver was that the Cowboys already had that playmaking guy on the squad, either in a rehabbing Terry Glenn or emerging wide receivers Miles Austin and Isaiah Stanback. Another thing to consider was that in essence Jason Witten is the Cowboys' #2 receiver, with Crayton providing more than decent numbers for a #3. Well, the Cowboys are headed into the season opener without Austin and possibly without Stanback, two players that provided good depth at receiver yet also were pretty good on special teams as well.

Now before I am accused of panicking over backups being injured, I want to go on record as saying that I think the Cowboys are in better shape at the receiver position than they were last year, when the team played the entire season with the same 1, 2 and 3 receivers they have now. Sam Hurd now has one year of experience under his belt (19 receptions for 310 yards in 2007) and by most accounts has had a great training camp so far. Hurd has shown that he has the hands and route running to be a reliable option for Romo, yet he does not have the down field playmaking ability that Austin was flashing before his injury. With Austin and Stanback out, the Cowboys are now faced with either Danny Amendola or Mike Jefferson filling in at the #4 spot. At first this seems scary before you remember that Miles Austin was in the same spot last year with the same amount of career receptions as Amendola and Jefferson; zero. Granted, Austin had a full year of NFL practice experience before stepping into that spot.

 

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Last season the Cowboys put together one of the greatest offensive years in franchise history, with basically the same cast of characters we have now. All season we waited for Terry Glenn to get better as the Cowboys held a roster spot for him, only to have Glenn show up less than 100% and catch just four balls (while making $5 million). This offseason, Jerry Jones touted Glenn as a returning weapon for the Cowboys only to waive him the day before training camp when neither side could come to terms on a injury waiver. The Cowboys moved on without Glenn, who piqued the interest of a few NFL teams but has yet to be offered a contract anywhere. Now that the Cowboys are faced with some depth issues at wide receiver, should Jerry Jones make a few phone calls to Glenn's agent, or any other receivers on the open market?

At first my answer is no. I still contend that even without a "true deep threat" at the number two spot the Cowboys have plenty of offensive weapons available to be successful this year. The Cowboys will have a more balanced running attack this year which will take some pressure off the passing game, not to mention the addition of Felix Jones who is a threat in both passing and running situations. Taking a look around, more than half the teams in the league would kill to have the receiving group we do between Witten, Crayton and Owens. The loss of a number 4 and 5 receiver shouldn't justify bringing in a veteran receiver, especially considering the fact that Austin should only miss a game or two at most. The list of available receivers leaves a lot to be desired and I just don't think any of them would be a sure fire upgrade over the unproven bunch we have now.

But then hypotheticals jump into my mind, specifically thinking back to how the offense fluttered when Terrell Owens got hurt. If the Cowboys did (Heaven forbid) lose one of their top 3 receivers, the dynamic of the offense would change as an unproven rookie would be asked to step in and make plays. Not an easy thing to fathom as you hopefully gear up for a long playoff run. It would be nice to at least have something to fall back on, especially if that backup plan is a receiver that knows your system, is familiar with your quarterback and has made plays before.

Now, its just not as simple as Jerry calling up Glenn and saying, "We want you back." There's no way the Cowboys are going to play Glenn anything more than the veteran minimum, and then there's that nasty business over the health of his knee. If he were able to pass a physical and willing to sign a reasonable contract, I am all for bringing him in.

Right now, there is just no need to panic about the depth of the recievers especially when you consider the quality of talent that's available.  Miles Austin shouldn't miss any significant time and even if Stanback is out for the season there are other guys on the team that could step up into his shoes. If Glenn is healthy and willing to settle for a cheap contract then I am all for bringing him in. Anything other than that is just not worth it at this point.

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hmmmm

my first thought is to say no but if he’s healthy maybe. still leaning towards no tho.

great discussion tho. great post.

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by Tuna Helper on Aug 25, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

He's not healthy or he would've signed with Miami by now, next.....

Even if he was I think he is pissed at the organization and would never come back.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 25, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

after the first game?

First, it only makes sense if Stanback is put on IR. If Stanback isn’t out for the season, then I think you go with Amendola or Jefferson (and probably the former because he also can contribute in kick/punt returns) in the #6 spot and just wait for your #4 and #5 to get healthy after a few games.

But one question I have is, as I understand it, if they bring him in at this point his salary would be vested for the season, but what if they waited until after the first game and then offered him a spot? Then he could be there just in case while Austin is out. If he looks decent and provides some production, you could keep him on the roster, but if not you wouldn’t be locked into him the whole season. I don’t know if he would care for that arrangement, but if no other team takes him, which they haven’t so far, and this is his only chance to play, he might.

by scottmaui on Aug 25, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I just don't buy the Amendola can make the team cause he can contribute on ST argument

He has ZERO chance of being our punt returner. That is going to be Pac. That is the 1 spot that he can make an immediate impact on our team, considering he is still rusty at CB.

Now maybe he can return kickoffs. Did he do that in college as well?

I’m just saying, don’t assume Amendola over Jefferson just because of returning. Amendola won’t be our return guy.

by mhuff13 on Aug 25, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amendola has returned kickoffs

yes, he did return kickoffs in college. He did a lot more at punts (102 career returns) and excelled at that, but he did do some kickoffs as well (don’t know the number but not near as many). And they have been using him in kickoff drills in TC.

So with Stanback and Austin out, other than Amendola you basically have F. Jones, Scandrick, Jenkins, who have some return experience and have been working in the drills. I would love to see Jones back there but assuming Wade isn’t just blowing smoke and actually doesn’t want to put him back there all the time, that leaves Scandrick and Jenkins, and it seems like Amendola would add value on the roster as a backup returner even if he wasn’t one of the starting returners.

Scandrick returned 22 kickoffs for 1,024 yards (league record 46.5 yards per return) and one touchdown in his final year at Boise State.

Jenkins only returned nine kickoffs in college (26.7-yard average), although one was for a touchdown, but still he doesn’t have that much experience returning kicks.

Also, although returning kicks is more dangerous than punts, I think there’s value to having depth at punt returner as well. What if heaven forbid Pacman is injured? Crayton can be Mr. Fair Catch, but he’s not lighting anyone up with his returns. Amendola is a good punt returner and would likely be the #2 returner behind Pac and I think there’s value in that.

by scottmaui on Aug 25, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh plus Pacman

he could return kickoffs as well.

by scottmaui on Aug 25, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok I'll agree with you

I guess him being a backup return guy would have some value. Good call.

by mhuff13 on Aug 25, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scandrick

His average on 22 KO returns was 46.5 yds? Damn!

He has my vote to return KO.
Lets put him and Pac back there and watch.

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by APerfectStar on Aug 25, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

that’s pretty sick. anything remotely close to that and we’ll be in good shape!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/orlando-scandrick?id=2307

Just keep in mind that was in the WAC, as opposed to the SEC where Jones was.

Felix Jones ranked fourth in the nation with 652 yards and two scores on 22 kickoff returns (29.64 avg), and was a consensus All-American and All-SEC first-team selection as a kickoff returner.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/felix-jones?id=931

by scottmaui on Aug 25, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

more on F. Jones

“Jones ranks ninth in NCAA history with school and SEC all-time records, averaging 28.21 yards on 62 kickoff returns for 1,749 yards and four touchdowns.”

by scottmaui on Aug 25, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, according to the link

Scandrick’s KO #’s are from his senior year of HS. Still impressive, but not as hard to believe.

El Gato has a lot of experience and talent as a returner. I’m sure he’ll get some chances as the season wears on.

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by APerfectStar on Aug 25, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

oops

I misread that, sorry.

It says last year he got 78 yards on four kickoff returns (19.5-yard average).

by scottmaui on Aug 25, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes scott, i think you are right

i alluded to this earlier.

if stanback is out for the year (or if they are so worried about early season depth they just move him to the IR) then they can put him on the IR and sign a vet.

i understand that if they sign a vet after the first game his contract doesn’t vest and he plays week to week.

then signing glenn has no risk, if he is hurt on the first play he costs 1/15th of his contract value. but (i think) if we sign him now he gets all of it.

although i wouldn’t be surprised if the fins are eyeing a similar arrangement.

by 325424 on Aug 25, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont assume he cant pass a physical

Maybe he can, maybe he can’t. But to assume that he can’t just because Miami didnt sign him may not be correct. Even if he can pass a physical his knee is still bone on bone. So he could still go down at any time with his weakened knee. If you sign before the start of the season you have to guarranty him his contract. Maybe teams are waiting to sign him after the beginning of the season so if he goes down his remaining contract gets voided. Then you dont have to quibble with his agent over injury settlements and such which is probably still a sore point for him.

by WB3forMB3 on Aug 25, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

well considering the reports were he was to sign

just 4 days after we cut him and haven’t heard a peep since, I would say he went down there and had some type of physical. Miami could be waiting like you said until after week 2, but something tells me he won’t because he is not healthy.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 25, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

he isn't healthy

Like you said if he was healthy he would have signed some where already… Shoot if he could pass a physical he would have never been shown the door..

He just isn’t healthy…

I am not sure if someone can learn the offense by the time Austin comes back, but if were to sign one Koren Robinson tops my list, but I think a better option will come available by Sept 4th..

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by Wmillion on Aug 25, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Newman and Pacman on offense?

Tim McMahon notes on DMN blog that Newman went through the passing lines with the receivers at the beginning of today’s practice. He says not to ready anything into it, that he “routinely does that when he practices” presumably just to work on his catching, but it does remind me of the earlier talk about Pacman possibly being used on offense and raises the question. If the Cowboys are really worried about their 4th WR position, it is possible that either Newman or Pacman could step in in a pinch and help out on the offense while they’re waiting for Austin to return.

by scottmaui on Aug 25, 2008 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't forget Felix...

I’m thinking that he could play some slot receiver in a crunch and be pretty good too!

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by CowboyCrazy on Aug 25, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another one for Felix

Good suggestion on Felix. This is how Westbrook is often used.

Also like the idea of Pac or Newman, but don’t want them hurt with a vicious hit so Felix is the better choice .

Unlike many other teams we do have an added WR with Witten, so we aren’t in the dire straits that other would experience with these injuries.

by oldtimer on Aug 25, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bennett is essentially a 6'6" 265 lb WR as well.....look for lots of two TE sets....

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 25, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

7 non-WR pass catchers vs. Texans

For sure on Felix and Bennett.

Keep in mind that the Cowboys offense used 12 different pass catchers in Friday’s game, and only 5 of them we WRs!

They were even lining up Anderson in the slot and threw to him there once! How many teams put their FB in the slot?

Point being, we have a lot of versatility on offense and many weapons who can catch passes other than WRs, so even if we are thin at WR depth there’s a lot of ways we can compensate for that and still be

by scottmaui on Aug 25, 2008 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry

… and still be effective and dangerous in the passing game.

by scottmaui on Aug 25, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

If this team wasn’t loaded with so many options, then the loss of our 4th and 5th WR’s for an undetermined amount of time might be cause for concern.

I don’t see a need to sign any vet WR now.
Let Amendola, Jefferson, and Lowber fight it out for the sixth spot. Or wait to see if anyone better becomes available after Aug 30th cuts.

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by APerfectStar on Aug 25, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

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don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 25, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see us using Adam Jones and Felix Jones in slot receiver formations...

but of course they haven’t shown that yet (what do you think they do during those private practices)…..I highly doubt they’ll ever use Newman on offense…..the dude’s been hobbling around on bad feet for a while now….not going to chance losing a starter like that…

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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Aug 25, 2008 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

kick return
Wade Phillips would rather not put Felix Jones or Adam “Pacman” Jones in the line of fire as kickoff returners, but the Cowboys’ options are limited.

Miles Austin is out for at least a couple regular season games. Phillips doesn’t expect Isaiah Stanback back for the opener, and there’s a chance the second-year player will spend the season on injured reserve.

So the coaches are considering using Felix or Pacman, who are the team’s most dynamic return men, on kick returns.

“We’ve got to consider it now,” Phillips said. “It’s a different set of circumstances.”

I would rather bring in Koren then put either one back there..

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don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 25, 2008 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

stink-a-link

here u go

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don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 25, 2008 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

great post

i agree that things aren’t that bad and that we have veteran options.

i think the only difference in this year and last year is that last year we started the season with an unproven #4 WR who was a proven special teams contributor. this year we have guys at the bottom of the WR ladder who should contribute on coverage units but have not shown that they can.

thats one of the problems of signing a vet, its tough to imagine Glenn or Horn (or anyone on the list) contributing on coverage units.

by 325424 on Aug 25, 2008 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Getting a vet WR is

a short term solution, the Cowboys can keep their eyes peeled for any cut players that could be used if depth is a concern. Right now I do not think that it is and trading players for a vet WR is not really necessary because Austin will be back in a few weeks and the team should try to get him back in to see if they can use him to stretch the field.

by cowboy78 on Aug 25, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I sure hope not..

I think he will be ready by mid-season..

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don't help me, help the mountain lion"

by Wmillion on Aug 26, 2008 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

-1

no way. It won’t take him that long, especially if he will be back by week 2.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 25, 2008 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

he wont be back by week two

was it not reported on Hard knocks that he had a grade three sprain.

by Deke on Aug 25, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

All the reports said he should be back

by week 2, but you never know that could turn into week 4 which I beilive is our Bye week.

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 25, 2008 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

ok

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by Boyzfan94 on Aug 25, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes

Sign Glenn. For 2-4 weeks, he can just be in Dallas for insurance. Nobody says he has to start, or even play.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 26, 2008 12:32 AM CDT reply actions  

If Glenn was going to try and play this season why would he want to play

for Miami. They aren’t going anywhere this year and don’t have a very good qb. I think hes going to wait and see if the Cowboys give him a call after week 2. He knows they have a good qb and a very good chance to be in the Super Bowl.

by houseofprime on Aug 26, 2008 5:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Eagles fan here.

I’ve been out of town the whole month of preseason and I am just wondering how Pacman has been playing? I’ve heard reports that he was pretty bad his first game but wanted to know if he’s knocked off some dust since then?

by Joe_D on Aug 26, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

He still has some rust to knock off

but with each preseason game, he’s played better. He had a chance at a couple of INT’s in the last game. Dallas actually started him for that game.

You must feel pretty good about the Eagles Joe_D this year besides the loss of the starting receivers due to injury. I think the Eagles will rebound this year and will be in contention for the division. I liked their draft this year and Desean Jackson has looked really good in the two games I’ve watched.

by Deke on Aug 26, 2008 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree Deke

With the retirement of Strahan and the loss of Umenyiora, I just don’t see the Giants defense being that good.

The Eagles will definitely be the Cowboys competition this season in the NFC East.

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by Terry on Aug 26, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Redskins will give the Eagles a pretty good battle.

Both those teams really improved their squads this year.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 26, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see both the Skins and GMen

around .500 this season, I think Campbell needs one more to come into his own.

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by Terry on Aug 26, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think 3 NFC East teams will make the playoffs again?

If so, who’d you guess to be the odd-team out?

I’m gonna go with the Giants and I thought that before the whole Osi thing. The Skins may gel in Zorn’s 1st year. Dallas did in Wade’s.

That #38 sure should wrap up!

by Aaron Novinger on Aug 26, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

no I don't see it happening

NFC East teams’ schedules are just too tough, we’ll probably have only 2 teams go over .500 because of that fact, I’m thinking the Cowboys and Eagles.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 26, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

Well. It’s still preason so most of the Philly fan base (the non retarded ones) are still holding their breath on Jackson. but he has looked sharp.

I still don’t feel entirely good about our red zone offense, and I would like to see better pass rush out of our defense.

but we’ll see.

I agree.. cant see the giants losing half their D and still being good. I think their playoff run was a fluke anyway but I guess we’ll see.

by Joe_D on Aug 26, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

We shouldn’t bring Terry Glenn back

by Burt88 on Aug 26, 2008 11:57 PM CDT reply actions  

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