Dallas Cowboys Hard Knocks open thread
by Dave Halprin on Aug 6, 2008 8:34 PM CDT
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Watch it, love it, discuss it.
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No HBO for me
spent all my pennies on the NFL Network…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 6, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no it's not
Josh Hamilton is better than you.
by Longhorn on Aug 6, 2008 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its part of their premium package
you obviously have to pay extra for it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 7, 2008 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sopcast links?
I’m out of the country and would love to watch it. According to Google somebody on cowboyzone posted instructions for how to get it via sopcast but I’m not a member. Does anybody know which sopcast channel this will be on?
by JimmyJohnson on Aug 6, 2008 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Martellus Bennett is a pretty funny dude.
“The Ghandi approach” hahaha
i hope vujacic gets hit by a truck hauling stray cats that claw his eyes out before using his skull as a brood den.--kalone
by JamesR on Aug 6, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Martellus has a crappy attitude and is ridiculously overrated
Wasted pick IMO. It pisses me off to see someone with so much talent and no heart.
by groves on Aug 6, 2008 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's also sloppy,lazy and needs a boot in his @ss
by C17Load on Aug 6, 2008 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's pretty cool.
They’ll keep an eye on him; they know he’s immature.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I got from the piece
They know he’s immature right now so they want John Garrett to ride his ass all day every day to keep him in line.
Also, y’all need to remember that Bennett is VERY raw right now because of A&M’s pass offense….it was nonexistant. He’s still learning how to be a reciever/TE.
i hope vujacic gets hit by a truck hauling stray cats that claw his eyes out before using his skull as a brood den.--kalone
by JamesR on Aug 6, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right off the bat
TO, JDub, Wade, Romo and Jerrah!
THAT’S WHY I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!!
by Victor79 on Aug 6, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For those of you wondering...
Not sure if it’s be mentioned here or not, so late pass me if need be… But somebody on another forum said HBO will have these episodes loaded onto their website on Fridays, so if you don’t have the luxury of watching it tonight, you can catch it then…
by N41D on Aug 6, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Short Glenn piece
I kind of expected an amicable divorce. NOT!! Jones was like…”we’re waiving him, I doubt any other team will sign him, if they do I can live with that”. At least JJ can make a decsion unlike the Packers management.
by C17Load on Aug 6, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was surprised by that!
And then him telling Hurd about waiving Glenn. Hurd’s all about it now!
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else notice that Jerry refused to shake Hurd's hand after telling him about Glenn?
I wonder if it was on purpose or if Jerry didn’t see him with his hand out. Weird.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
by DC_fan on Aug 7, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was just one of those miscue things
where each one didn’t quite know what the other was doing with his hands, especially with Sam being a bit excited over the news that he just got promoted by default, not an intentional snub or whatever on Jerry’s part
by scottmaui on Aug 7, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to hear Crayton talking about using his drop in the playoffs as fuel.
i hope vujacic gets hit by a truck hauling stray cats that claw his eyes out before using his skull as a brood den.--kalone
by JamesR on Aug 6, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m dyin’ here… Just called a friend who said there was video of pacman catching 6 punts in a row without putting the balls down. In the end he caught a punt with 5 balls in his hands… damn impressive.
by JimmyJohnson on Aug 6, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Crayton caught 6 as well.......7 would be nuts....
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 6, 2008 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not on here yet
like West Coast, it’s not on here until three hours later…
by scottmaui on Aug 6, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
your gonna love it Scott....
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 6, 2008 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you believe it?
HBO went out in the middle of the program! It was raining pretty hard and I think that might have messed up the cable. It came back on but I missed a pretty good chunk. I’ll have to record it when it shows again late tonight, and watch it again tomorrow.
by scottmaui on Aug 7, 2008 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 Words: BUMM + ER
Might be available online somewhere though.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very good!
I really liked the first episode. It missed on a bunch of players but I’m sure they’ll all get air time by the end. I really, really enjoyed it.
by sublimezg on Aug 6, 2008 9:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The best 3rd party documentary of the Dallas Cowboys ever!
by obiru on Aug 6, 2008 10:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pacman is nuts!!!
In a good way though.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Aug 6, 2008 10:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he's funny.
He’s really “in” with his teammates.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that friggin great or what ?????????? .
Loved the segway at the beginning…..really in depth….wish it was a two hour show…..
Some quick observations early on…:
1) Lattimore will be cut early on in camp…...
2) Lowbar has speed and quicks but is extremely raw….will be cut
3) No mention at all of Mike Jenkins as a first rounder selection, his signing, didn’t even show him …..was odd
4) So much for Adam Jones having rust, and won’t be ready to go because of long layoff….the dude is physical and can cover any WR we face this year like a blanket..
5) This teams has all the makings of a Super Bowl champion….
6) Martellis Bennett better step it up and pay attention, and watch Witten every chance he gets.
7) prediction: TO win be league MVP this year.
8) The team is focused, and i was pleased with the praise of Roy and Scandrick.
9) Can’t wait til next weeks show…...
9) Bring on the friggin Chargers already….
Wooooo Hooooo
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 6, 2008 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins will probably be featured soon.
I felt bad for Lattimore and Lowbar. Was hoping Keon would blow it up a bit in camp and force coaches to think of him as a tailback/FB/ST’s ace (his only way of making the squad).
Soooooo… Lowbar never played football in college? That’s what I got from the show—he played basketball then worked out as some sort of walk-on with the Giants, thus “earning” a Superbowl ring.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do practice squad guys actually get SB rings?
by scottmaui on Aug 7, 2008 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HBO said just Lowbar and Brad
were the only 2 Cowboys with rings.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering about that too
I sorta knew a guy who was on the practice squad for the last 3 Chicago Bulls title teams, and he didn’t get any rings. Different sport, I suppose. I guess it would make sense because the practice squad guys keep working for the team in the playoffs.
If the spoiled Mara kids get rings, I say give one to Lowber.
by grapejoos on Aug 7, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
M Bennett
Man, he seems a little lazy. He is immature, oh well Curtis will do a great job in #2 spot.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 6, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This impressed me about Bennett
Rookie tight end Martellus Bennett missed some of the morning practice Wednesday because of a foot problem. Bennett said he had some pain in the bottom of his foot, but it didn’t stop him from returning to practice both in the morning and then in the afternoon.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=9AF376DB-C11F-1F84-4E65628044336D63
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that is extremely impressive
His foot was bothering him, and he made it back. Every player has played/ practiced through injuries. I don’t see why you are so impressed with him. He underperformed in college, he is a prima donna and a crybaby, and for someone that played in the Big XII he sure doesn’t have a very good grasp of the game.
I hope he proves me wrong, and I hope he is not a bust, but his sense of humor and the fact that he practiced after his foot was bothering him score him no points in my book. We’ll see how he does this weekend.
by groves on Aug 7, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, I don't even know anything about him.
Obviously, DC.com thought enough of his condition to print that as short shot news. Bennet’s just been getting slammed so I thought I’d be the benefit-of-the-doubt voice.
Hate to waste a 2nd rounder.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A&M had exactly zero passing offense while Bennett was there, it was almost entirely an option offense so its not exactly fair to say that he underperformed.
i hope vujacic gets hit by a truck hauling stray cats that claw his eyes out before using his skull as a brood den.--kalone
by JamesR on Aug 7, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which shows me he can at least block well enough
to have him on goal-line offense, where Curtis learned to develop.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on all points Boyz except
Romo will be MVP ;)
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 7, 2008 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Martellus Bennet
I thought the show was very good for an opening episode. Loved the Pacman vs T.O part. Very entertaining. I also thought the part about how Crayton was “driven” by his drop last year was good. I wish they’d show more of how ginormous our offensive lineman are but I’m sure we’ll see more of that later. One thing that stuck out to me was the short piece on Martellus Bennet. He really looked sloppy, lazy, and unwilling to take instruction. For a second round pick I’d think we could have done better.
by C17Load on Aug 6, 2008 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So much Bennet hate
and only two weeks into camp… Tough crowd.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 6, 2008 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bennet is tight!
That Peter King thing should surface in next week’s episode, but Jason Garrett was talking about swagger and confidence and using Romo, T.O., & Witten as examples. Bennett is in a fine spot to learn what it takes to be professional.
Dude has some major tatts, too!
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about his tatts
If the Peter King article you’re talking about is the one I read yesterday, he said about the same thing. Bennet is lazy, etc. Did you see the coach tell him three times to put the ball in his offside hand? After the third time his attitude was like..o.k here you go for one whole second and chuck the ball. Not impressed so far. Granted, I’m watching this from my living room couch and there could be more to the story. Hope he gets it together.
by C17Load on Aug 6, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he gets it together, too but
he’s proud to be a Dallas Cowboy. Having Portland St. alum Tony Curtis blocking DEs and catching TDs for the next year or two definitely allows Bennet to mature.
Curtis = the bridge to Bennet’s potential.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bennett
Was drafted to take over the #2 TE spot, if doesnt get serious, he may have the same fate as bobby digitial.. Waiting for his turn..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 6, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's cool
he can do the robot..
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's August 7th.
August 7th.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Aug 7, 2008 5:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
still early.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So many things that looked right.
I loved Roy’s enthusiasm. Get em Roy..
I see the Swag Jason Garrett was talking about..
Man that episode had me all fired up..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 6, 2008 10:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Roy is working in his game, prolly like never before.
I like that.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre to the Jets...
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8381934
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
by Wmillion on Aug 6, 2008 11:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is huge!
Of all places for him to go, I wanted NY. That’s my favorite team in that city.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 6, 2008 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Jones
looks great for a year off he was all over TO – he can cover any one we face – WHAT A STEAL JJ GOT
by GimmyJ on Aug 6, 2008 11:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Boys looked great,
but from a storytelling standpoint the eposode failed to deliver. The dramatic storylines are Martellus (doesn’t fully develop the idea of his slackerness, which we’re all already familliar with) and Campo (missed opportunity to reuse the horse footage from the first HK), and those stories don’t seem to lead into the next episode or resolve in this round.
Also, why are they flying through camp so quickly? Wasn’t day 11, like, yesterday? The rush to keep relatively current, glossing over many things, made the show harder to follow for people who don’t read this blog, because the time was not taken to explain how everyone got here. (At least one shot of Pac making it rain might have helped.) I watched with my girlfriend, who found the players (a little too) charming, but I had to constantly explain who everyone was and why the situations had relevance.
More problems: Minimal time (in descending order) with Wade, Zach Thomas, HH and the O Line, and nary a mention of Parcells and related offseason moves; waaaay too much John Garrett (thank you, nepotism). And then, in the tease for Ep 2, where they’re moving on to the action happening in this prep week for the opening exhibition game, they show us two guys (Ellis and James) who were given no time in the ep. we just watched?
I was hoping for an hour leading up to the beginning of camp, setting up all the stories, leading to that first dreaded day for the rooks… Instead we get some clumsy exposition leading into what looked like the weakest summer camp this side of Camp Anawana. Camp Cupcake, indeed.
Again, the Cowboys came off as fantastic. But anyone not familiar with the team must have felt completely lost, and accordingly underwhelmed. So enjoy, fellow Boys backers, cause this one’s for you.
Knowing is half the battle. http://deartracyp.blogspot.com
by Captain Grid Iron on Aug 7, 2008 2:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree Grid.........the story was really all over the place, and it's initial episode really should have focused on ALL the additions to this years Super Bowl version of the Boys....
one clip of Zack, who wasn’t even the focus, no mention of Mike Jenkins…..etc. etc….although I loved it….it was poorly produced…let’s only hope it gets better…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Aug 7, 2008 5:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair point
I feel like they’re going to showcase everyone at some point. For us, it’ll probably be not enough depth on any one player, but I have a feeling everyone who we are wondering about will be featured.
by grapejoos on Aug 7, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody know who that one rookie was
who got everybody singing?
Tank Johnson looks like he’s always having fun hazing guys. He’s the little mastermind.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm loving Tank
He brings a great presence to this team. Re-signing him has gone from luxury to important over the course of OTAs and training camp.
by grapejoos on Aug 7, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TLDR
sorry
Knowing is half the battle. http://deartracyp.blogspot.com
by Captain Grid Iron on Aug 7, 2008 2:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If you missed it
I live in German(Damn AIr Force) so we have no HBO here but I just watched Hard Knocks on Ninjavideo.net. It was up there this morning when I got up,That is like 3am for some of you all so it is up there pretty fast. So if you were unable to watch go check it out it is a great website.
by djones3448 on Aug 7, 2008 4:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAT???
AFN didn’t hook you up?? LOL. Thanks for the tip.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Aug 7, 2008 5:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Man
Going from San Antonio getting overload of Cowboys coverage and being able to go to four or five home games a year to having to stay up till 2am to watch games and fish the internet for my Cowboys info has been a hard adjustment….....Man I miss Texas
by djones3448 on Aug 7, 2008 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great tip, thanks.
I just watched it on that website and the quality was awesome. thanks man.
by Billito on Aug 7, 2008 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There sure are a lot of film critics in this blog.
Can we take it for what it is? We all got to see an hour of stuff about our favorite team that we werent gonna see anywhere else.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Aug 7, 2008 6:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually really liked the first episode
The stories might have been all over the place, however, HBO did a great job of capturing the inner confidence of the team and the determination they have to go all the way this season.
It also showed me that Garrett is the guy really running this team, Wade is just the token HC, Garrett is really the man. His speech at the end to the team was priceless.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 7, 2008 7:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Some really great shots and history on the star was cool.
It surprised me that Garrett used Romo, Witten, and T.O. to exemplify swagger, confidence. Although, they are great examples for the youngsters to learn by, those guys, too, are still working on their game.
Guess that’s why he named them.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh
Who would you have used? Why not use the top 3 most elite players on our offense that clearly have a lot of confidence in their game. All 3 are probably the hardest workers of anyone on our team, I don’t get where you’re coming from here..
By the way, you should still be working on your game even in you 15th year..
by sublimezg on Aug 7, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just saying I was surprised he named certain players
to make his point. That’s where I’m coming from.
In a speech addressed to the entire offense, it amazed me in the fact that he used current players on THAT squad to model performance for the other guys.
Don’t get me wrong—I think it was a great psychological motivator (even for Romo, T.O., and JWitt) and legitimized his speech.
Just the fact that he said their names made me say, “Wow!”
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it didn't surprise me at all
great coaches often want to use their best players as examples and guides for the youngins to follow how its done.
In that case, he was simply saying Romo, Witten and T.O. all have extreme confidence in their games and if you don’t we don’t want you on this team.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 7, 2008 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just amazed me because
not too too long ago Romo and Witten were the youngins. Now, they are masters of their games much like T.O.
I guess I just felt that Garrett put those guys up there with him, in his speech—I didn’t expect him to use current players or any players at all as tools for success.
Made sense, got the point across.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo and Witten have been in the league
for 5 years, this being their 6th year so in my mind they’re pretty established vets.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 7, 2008 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Romo's been starting how many years?
1 1/2. That’s not established compared to most other QBs in the league.
Although 5 years is considered veteran, these guys are still young relative to their skill level.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
loved it
it was a great look into camp and behind the scenes of our team…
could have cared less about a story… the story will be the season, unless one of our stars goes down in camp then Hard Knocks can follow how we might overcome the loss…
I am totally ready for the season…
by stephena on Aug 7, 2008 7:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amazing First Episode - Bennett needs to room with TO!!
Owens will be in his ear 24 hours a day and will brainwash him into becoming a perfectionist. TO has never been the best route runner, but his dedication can’t be questioned.
Another thing: This is going to paint a target on the Cowboys all season with both fans and teams. The first 5 minutes rubbed into the faces of every non Cowboys fan that Dallas is THE premier franchise in the NFL regardless of playoff drought.
My popcorn is ready!!!
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Aug 7, 2008 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hey, the truth hurts
they’ll get over it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Aug 7, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They even said
the premier team in ALL OF SPORTS! Made me smile.
That #38 sure can hit!
by Aaron Novinger on Aug 7, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
story?
please, Im just glad to see some ACTION!
3 days & counting
by bleedn blu on Aug 7, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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