Film review: Defense, Cowboys @ Browns
The second part of the film review focusing on the defense. You can read the review of the offense, here.
CB – Anthony Henry had more plays occur around him than almost anybody on the defense. He made a sweet tackle on a hitch pass, broke up passes twice on third down, and got pressure on a blitz but the Browns capitalized on the play anyway. On the negative side, he gave up a couple of pass completions, and had a miscommunication with Hamlin on the Winslow TD. He also looked like he was beat by Braylon Edwards deep on the ball that was dropped, but he had outside coverage and Hamlin was supposed to be inside coverage, but Hamlin let Edwards go and doubled the dig route underneath, leaving Henry exposed. Adam Jones was most notable for his pass interference call in the endzone and for muffing a punt. But he did break up a pass on third down and really didn’t get beat for much otherwise. Orlando Scandrick had a bad penalty to extend the Browns TD drive after they were stopped on third down and he whiffed on a tackle after giving up a completion. He redeemed himself with good coverage on a third down pass and not giving up a lot of receptions. I really never saw Mike Jenkins involved in a play; with corners that can be a good thing, I just don't know how many reps he got though.
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WOW!!!
After reading this it may be seem that our defense played subpar. Reason i say this is because you praised the offense but not so much the defense.
~Texas Massacre 08~
I think some had to do with the Browns
they are a much better team on offense than defense.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
rambleramble
it’s true that the defense was relieved of having to be on the field so much because the offense controlled the time of possession. But the defense did get off the field and get the ball back to the offense pretty well except for that one drive, which was kept alive by two penalties. They did, however, get some good breaks from drops and mistakes by the Browns. The pass rush did cause some to be thrown hurriedly and/or off target, but some were just lucky breaks. The end result is the same, and the defense made some good plays for sure, but they don’t totally deserve credit for some of the stops. Against a more consistent offense without the drops, it could have been a closer game. I predicted they would put up 20 points against us, and if they had made some of those catches that might have been closer to the actual score, so this was a good showing, but I think it had as much to do with their offense making mistakes as our defense really shutting them down. However, if their offense had been more productive, I think our offense would have just kept the pressure on and scored more as well, whereas they went into clock killing mode up by 3 TDs by the 4th quarter.
drum roll please...............
Bobby Carpenter was largely absent from the proceedings
-geee……..now there’s a surprise.
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
really
Are you really going to single out one guy? When Grizz said know one, but maybe Zach was impressive..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
ummm...maybe I should have pronounced "sarcastic comment coming", when commenting on our dubious wasted 1st round draft pick of 2006.
I’ll diss Bobby Carpenter every chance I get….cuz he SUCKS………I think he’s by far Top 3- 5 ALL TIME worst 1st round pick in the history of the Dallas Cowboys……and in response to Deke’s commentary…I agree, I wouldn’t mind seeing Roy cut after this season as well……In FACT….I don’t see either Barbie or Roy on next years opening day roster.
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
Why would you worry about the play of a backup player
when this guy starts and make big money.
Roy Williams was neither here nor there. He gave up two passes on the day to the TE’s for modest yards and really wasn’t involved in stopping the run
Gee, there’s the surpirse……same roy, different year, and you worry about a backup and a special teams linebacker…..Priorities are alittle off…
The countdown continues, only 18 games left in Roy Williams career in dallas
Can you ever be happy without a Roy put down?
Dallas won big, on the road, vs a playoff contender.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Sep 10, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe I was pretty clear on the subject
Who cares what Bobby Carpenter does in a game, he’s a backup. Worry about players that are suppose, from what I read on here all the time, Roy is going to be a different player this year, he’s lost weight, Campo will help him, he’ll be a game changer, etc, etc……I’ve been waiting over three years now, I’m not putting him down, I’m just waiting to see all these great changes he’s going to make this year !!!!!
But again, some are worried what a backup linebacker does in a game….. When Carpenter is a starter or playing significant role on this defense, like Roy Wiliams is, then I’ll worry about what Carpenter does in a game….
get over it deke
Roy didn’t give up that TD to Winslow, that was on Henry and Hamlin..
You can continue to find ways to criticize Roy, but in the end it is pointless.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
yes, it is pointless
because he’s gone after this year……
The point was, and I’ll use player A and Player B, since you want to get stuck on a name, if you didn’t understand, it is why do people continue to complain about a backup player A who rarely see’s the field other than special teams, when a starting player B are the ones you need to worry about….
and what did Roy do in the Browns game
that was so horrible? I certainly didn’t see him get torched by anyone and he made some tackles, so whats your point?
If “player A” is such an insignificant backup, why did Grizz even mention him then?
In Romo we Trust
I thought Roy played pretty well
I didn’t break down film or anything, but I saw him make a few solid tackles and didn’t see him in coverage much (which may or may not be a good thing :) Considering we were up against a guy that I consider a top-3 TE, the coaches did a pretty good job gameplanning to keep him from being exposed. Whether it’s worth the trouble, I suppose, is debatable.
What I liked
was the smaller number of wide-open WRs. When they completed passes there were at least players in the same zip code. The only one that really bothered me was crazy mix-up on the Browns’ TD. That kind of stuff needs to be fixed.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
205 Total Yards For Cleveland...
And Jay Ratliff was the only guy to have a really good game? I can’t say anyone stood out as being all over the field, but they played pretty damn well as a unit.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on Sep 10, 2008 7:50 AM CDT reply actions
I agree
you hold one of the best offenses to 205 yards, you’re playing pretty good defense, no matter if they drop a few passes or not.
In Romo we Trust
Very Good Assessment!
I’m not the type to give out compliments easily, but this was pretty spot on.
Fans of the stat line (I never understood those kind of people) will say Dallas looked great, but if you watch the plays and how players handled their responsibilities, I’d say you hit on most if not all, of the key points. Essentially, we were pretty average.
What bothers me about this team on defense is that if we bring 4 linemen, we get zero pressure, and so we blitz, and that’s always risky because it leaves us in man coverage somewhere. These DB’s are not experienced enough to man up on NFL WR’s just yet and it showed when you looked at just how open Edwards was on many plays.
The good news is that Wade keyed on Winslow by rubbing him with Ellis or a LB before they rolled Henry or another CB over to blanket him on the route, and he was held pretty much in check.
Again, I need to see more plays in the backfield from Canty, Spears, Ratliff, Hatcher and Tank if we want to make a run. Blitzing as the only way to create pressure is a recipe for disaster against good pass blocking teams.
And, like you, I also what to know where the heck was Jenkins?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I like what i saw
Even though Grizz wasn’t impressed, we played well on Defense and held them to 10 points.
We were missing a pass rusher and our top corner. I am glad we have a ton of room for improvement after only giving up 205 yds and 10 points.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
+1 ....this D will continue to get better....will be ranked #1 by years end..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
I tend to agree that the D has a ways to go but
you can say that about any performance in the NFL. Teams are pretty darned close in skill and it’s often a little thing here or there that makes a difference. Think about plays given away for Dallas – dropped passes, missed routes, screwed up blocking assignments, mix-ups iin coverage. It could also have been worse for the Browns.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Dallas D
… better be gearing up for the Eagles on Monday night.
This is not a drill.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Wow, tough crowd ;-)
I thought I praised some guys. Rat, Ware, Ellis, Zach. Henry had some problems but I pointed out a few nice plays he made, AJ was solid for the night, Hamlin did what a safety is supposed to, clean up the mess with tackles. I even said the front-line played a solid game with no spectacular highlights.
I thought I was giving a pretty even-handed appraisal of the defense.
It's tough to make a bunch of big plays and put up big numbers
When the other team consistently is unable to stay on the field. The Cowboys offense did such a good job controlling the clock and the defense, other than one drive, was able to get off the field. Sure, there’s some things to work on, but overall it was a great performance.
by Brandon Worley on Sep 10, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Derek Anderson is tough guy to get pressure on, he gets rid of the ball quick, and the O-line is one of the best of the league.
If Newman is back and we can make McNabb hold the ball, i expect to see a lot more QB pressure. Causing more Wow Plays..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Not to mention
Eliis rushing instead of covering.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
Westbrook
Wade is going have to be on his A game. We have to figure out a way to slow Westbrook down..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Even in week 9 of last year
When we won 38-17, Westbrook had 155 combined yards, mostly as a receiver.
How Bout Them Cowboys!
Westbrook
We will give up yards to Westbrook, that’s going to happen. We have to stop him at critical times in the game (especially 3rd down)
I agree on that..
He can defintely create back breaking plays..
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
Interesting matchup
Will be Thomas on Westbrook. I still think he’s their biggest weapon. At least now we have a better equipped defense to slow him down.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Sep 10, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
the bottom line
is that for missing the best cover corner in football and one of our best pass rushers, the defense played pretty good.
In Romo we Trust
Seems pretty simple to me.
"If you see me up in the mountains with a lion, I ain't lyin
don't help me, help the mountain lion"
We should utilize our strength in the secondary by using our nickle/dime packages exclusively....
Philly’s power running game/ or lack there of doesn’t scare me one bit………4 down linemen(Ware,Ratliff,Tank,Ellis), 2 LB’s(Zack & Burnett) and 5 DB’s(Henry,Newman,A Jones,Hamlin,Roy)….using Adam Jones to shadow Westbrook everywhere he goes…..Isolate Newman on Desean Jackson, then we throw the house at McFlabb, and blitz from every angle and dare him to beat us………..that would be my game plan…
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
Clevland`
had their QB suffer a concussion in the preseason (max protection), the team only gave up 10 sacks all of last year, Ware was up against a very good LT, and Ellis was dropping off into coverage a lot more than he ever has. Without spencer in the pass rush was just not going to get there in time. The offense helped out the D by building a lead that helped by forcing the Browns to become on dimensional; but their OL was not really moving the ball on the ground with any real sucess. I agree that if the passes are caught it would probably been a closer game.

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