Cowboys Release Oglesby
by Barrett14 on Sep 2, 2008 2:47 PM CDT
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Why did we do this? I thought Oglesby was a lot better than Alan Ball?? I was never impressed by Ball.
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With the Cowboys needing to make room on the 53-man roster for special teams ace Keith Davis, who agreed to terms with the team over the Labor Day weekend, they released cornerback Evan Oglesby Tuesday afternoon. The Cowboys did have one extra cornerback, and it seemed the decision would come down to either Oglesby or Alan Ball. The Cowboys obviously decided to keep last year's seventh-round pick, an improved special teams player.
This is the hard part about life in the NFL. One minute you're on the 53-man roster, praciticing with the team on Monday getting ready for the season opener. Then the next, there is Oglesby, walking out of the locker room with all his Cowboys' earthly belonging stashed in a large plastic garbage bag out of a job. The third-year corner from Noth Alabama was understandably down when I bumped into him on the way out, always a tad uncomfortable to run into someone who just lost his job.
Oglesby had just said his goodbyes to the guys in the equipment room, then looked at me to say, "You'll hear about me somewhere else."
The move clears the way for the Cowboys to actually sign Davis on Wednesday in time for their next practice. Davis, the Cowboys former special teams captain had signed an unrestricted free-agent deal with Miami in the off-season before the Dolphins released the sixth-year safety last week. This, though, is unlikely the final roster adjustment. The Cowboys could also make a move at the end of the week if they feel the necessity to add a wide receiver to the injury-depleted roster. And with NFL veteran Brooks Bollinger visiting on Tuesday, there would seem a possibility of signing the quarterback as their third guy next week when vested veteran contracts are not guaranteed.
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You totally...
…took the words out of my mouth when you asked,
“I thought Oglesby was a lot better than Alan Ball??”
WTF?!?!
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by silverblue5 on Sep 2, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And people thought I was crazy thinking Ball wasn't any good
I told you the organization likes Ball’s potential, I don’t know how many times.
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 2, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought you were crazy...
…I just thought that Oglesby played better than Ball — from what I saw.
But what’s really important is what THEY witnessed, and obviously you’re right ’94!
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by silverblue5 on Sep 2, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit Oglesby did outplay Ball
from what I saw in preseason. I diagree with Grizz that it was about money, because it never has been an issue with Jerry. Ball is talented, has the measurables and alot of upside going his way. Add to that his special teams play. I think that has more to do with it than money. I guess we will never know for sure….
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 2, 2008 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as you manage the economics of the bottom of the roster well...
then it’s never about money when it comes to the superstars. Jerry has the money to pay the stars, and the cap room to do it by managing the other end of the roster well.
by Dave Halprin on Sep 2, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A million for a player who he thinks has a long term future on
this team is a drop in the bucket for Jerry. Obvioulsy, they didn’t he was that valuable. Do you really think it was about money? IMO, absolutely not. Jerry is a master of cap management. They could’ve reconstructed his contract in a way that his base salary would’ve been dirt cheap. A player like that would not command a big contract. I think it had more to do Ball’s upside and his special teams play. Ball was more valuable to this franchise in the end, right now. Like I said we may never know. Maybe something will come out about this soon.
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 2, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not the cash.... it's the cap
when you say JJ is great at cap mgmt it is b/c a lot of things, one of those being that he saves a lot at the bottom of the roster
by 325424 on Sep 2, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's neither
You front load the contracts to keep the base low. That’s how we signed all those player’s this off season. The Redskins been doing it for years. Oglesby would not be considered a cap breaker. Especially, not at his 1 mil cap charge if that’s what it is.
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 2, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think when you are as close to the cap as Dallas is
even $600k can make a difference sometimes. I don’t think it was only about money, but this team must have the highest payroll in the league in terms of current committed dollars. The team has surplus under the cap right now, but I bet they eat it up with Ware’s extension or maybe the defensive linemen before the season is over. There’s no room for Oglesby in the future here. Newman is here til he retires, Jenkins will be here, and behavior permitting, so will Pacman. Henry, who knows.
by grapejoos on Sep 2, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what are cap number is right now, but I thought
it was well over 5 or 6 mil.
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 3, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
available?
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by Wmillion on Sep 3, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so
It went up a lot when Barber, Newman, Flo, etc all signed back-loaded contracts; before that, I think we had around $1-2 million in cap space. When the big years of those deals come due, we’ll be in a major cap crunch. So, might as well try to cram in some frontloaded extensions to use every penny of our cap space this year and lessen the burden next year.
by grapejoos on Sep 3, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree Grizz....this was a simple cap saving money move....
you can not pay your 6th CB 1mm+ in ‘09…simple as that….no matter how much better he is over your 7th choice (Ball) at CB….when you have guys like Columbo, Canty, Burnett, Johnson to be signed after the season, you need to nickle and dime everyone of our bottom of the roster guys……by retaining Ball and cutting Oglesby, we just gained over 600k-700k towards next years cap space, assuming Ball even makes the roster next season….this wasn’t a money saving move, it was a cap increasing move….I still wish they would have crossed that bridge after the season….when his contract expired……
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by BoyzRback on Sep 2, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah maybe, but I think it's more than that
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 2, 2008 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ball....
they must like his upside better and his play on special teams…fine choice in my view..i was never impressed with oglesby
by canty99 on Sep 2, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its very simple why Oglesby was cut
He’s a restricted free agent after the season, meaning there isn’t a chance that the cowboys would resign him for more money. ball is under contract for a few more years
by Deke on Sep 2, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
its a shame economics has to decide his fate
because he is clearly better than Ball, no question.
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by Terry on Sep 2, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may be better as a CB, but I'm not so sure on special teams
Your 6th CB doesn’t normally see playing time as a CB unless it’s on the special teams. I figure that has a lot to do with it along with his contract status.
by hiafex on Sep 2, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree ogiesby clearly outplayed ball
All training camp and preseason.
Ball looked AWEFUL in coverage against @nd and 3rd teamers.
It’s ridiculoius that economics came into play here.
Oh and bal on ST????
Hadn’t heard his name called all preseason on special teams…..Killa would definitely offset anything you’d lose by releasing ball.
I’m officialling ticked off at this move…..Makes absolutely NO SENSE!
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by TrueBlue24 on Sep 2, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this puts it into perspective
So why is Ball still here while Oglesby is looking for a job? Two reasons: NFL economics and potential.
Ball is three inches taller, three years younger and a little bit faster than Oglesby. The Cowboys also have a seventh-round pick invested in Ball, while they picked Oglesby up off the street after Baltimore cut him last summer.
There’s also the matter of money. Oglesby, a restricted free agent after this season, would have cost the Cowboys more than a million bucks to keep him next season. That’s more than Ball will cost the next two seasons combined ($370,000 this season, $460,000 in ’09).
The Cowboys kept the cornerback who has a little more potential and is a lot more likely to be here for the long term. Makes sense, especially when you consider that the sixth corner is at least two injuries away from playing a meaningful snap on defense.
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/09/why-keep-alan-ball-instead-of-evan-ogles.html
by Deke on Sep 2, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Tim's statement with regards to Walden in the comment section
Posted by tim @ 4:14 PM Tue, Sep 02, 2008
“The Cowboys also have a seventh-round pick invested in Ball”
Now if only the cowboys used this logic when talking about whether to keep Walden, he was a sixth round pick….
by Deke on Sep 2, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well when you put it that way...
it kinda makes sense…LOL
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by TrueBlue24 on Sep 2, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Terry.....clearly better...I'd say i'm very disappointed in this move
Not only is Oglesby clearly better than Alan Ball, BUT he’s better than the guy he got dumped for, Keith Davis…..If he had deficiencies on special teams, I have no idea…but he’s bigger, and more physical than Ball, so I doubt highly Ball was clearly better, and it’s not like he wouldn’t improve or get better, as he still has upside and sure seemed to be able to mix it up …..I have no doubt he’ll get picked up quickly, most likely Baltimore….I actually had a bad feeling we were going to be trading him, cuz he showed quite a bit in preseaon, and you might as well get value for your 6th CB….but to outright release him is a shame…..Ball will not sniff the field for at least two more seasons….I don’t get it…….bad move Jerry….and i’m not one to diss Jerry’s moves….but I think they messed up this preseason so far with some of his moves ei: Walden, some of the players he brought to the PT, etc…..possibly signing Brooks, etc……WHAT THE HECK are they doing with 11 O Linemen for pete’s sake………they easily could have cut two of those bums, and we wouldn’t of lost anything….meeh…i’m done on this topic…..let’s move on guys…………
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by BoyzRback on Sep 2, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ball is 3 inches taller than Ogelsby, and faster… FYI
by scottmaui on Sep 2, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like this argument...
Unless the Cowboys feel there is major potential in Ball then this makes no sense. Use the best guy for the year and then let him go. We have plenty of CB’s now and it wouldn’t be a major concern to us. What if 2 of our top 3 corners goes down at the same time? Do you want Ball or Oglesby filling in that last spot? I’ll take Oglesby. He’s not only looked better, he also has more experience at the pro level. I’m sure we can find another Ball late in the next draft or even in FA if we really felt the need after the year is up.
I doubt any of this matters anyway but if it came down to having to use one of them i a pinch I’d still go with Oglesby. Then again, I haven’t seen as much of them as the coaches have.. I guess I’m not sweating it.
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by sublimezg on Sep 2, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its just with Keith Davis coming on board
I doubt the cowboys are taking five safeties, Davis being one of them and six corners to game, so chances are that if Oglesby was on the roster, he wouldn’t be on the 45 man active game roster, so he would be a waste having him on the roster. That’s why I believe he was cut, Ball will be here for a few more years since he’s under contract. That’s what the team has to take into consideration when it came down to taking Ball over Oglesby.
by Deke on Sep 2, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
Baring injury neither one should see the field this year..
Still tough to accept, but it is, what it is..
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by Wmillion on Sep 2, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
between that and special teams I'm sure that's accurate
still I think you take the best players available unless it means leaving behind a really talented player with a lot of potential, which I doubt Ball is. Like I said we can scoop a late round CB next draft and he’d be under contract even longer than Ball.. I dunno.. I’m not tripping. We should all hope we never even see Ball anyway..
by sublimezg on Sep 2, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only problem with that is
how do you know the seventh round corner you take next year will be better than Ball. Its better to go with what you know, than what you dont know, with regards to what’s going to be there in the seventh round next year.
So, I’d rather have Ball for the next few years to groom instead of not having either next year…Ball put on 12 pounds of muscle over the offseason and dallas had to sign him last year to the 53 man roster because there were a few teams interested in signing him off of our practce roster, I was advocating signing him to the active roster, I didn’t want to lose ball. I agee though that Oglesby played better, but I dont think we would of seen either too much on the field this year.
by Deke on Sep 2, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that had anything to do with it
It’s never been about money with Jerry. If anything this was Oglesby’s opportunity to get a new contract. They clearly think Ball is a better CB plain and simple.
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 2, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
It’s definitely the money. As a CB Ball looks totally lost out there. The only other reason the might want to keep him on the roster is his ability to plat the gunner position on ST.
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by APerfectStar on Sep 2, 2008 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cannot type fast ;(
The only other reason they might want to keep him on the roster, is his ability to play the gunner position on ST.
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by APerfectStar on Sep 2, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya i agree
looks like they are more focussed on gunners than on the 6th corner spot
it appears O was (and is) a better corner, but Ball was good on ST coverage units.
realistically which is more important? last year we punted 63 times in the regular season and had 94 kickoffs. based on that Ball will be on the field for about 10 plays a game on coverage units alone. its tough to imagine ogelsby really getting on the field much at all if he isnt on ST… even if henry plays S and we bring on 4 CB’s wouldnt we see: TNew, PacAdam, Jenkins and Scandrick? Maybe O was playing better than Scandrick, but isn’t that the real q here?
i mean its not like they took Ball to play corner over O, they took Ball to play ST. if we are lucky we will never see Ball line up as a CB this year.
am i missing soething
by 325424 on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's never been about money with Jerry
so I can’t agree with that statement.
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 2, 2008 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gunner
I’m also somewhat surprised and disappointed at this, all the reports were that Ogelsby played so well in camp and led the DBs in interceptions, and while he didn’t show up as much in games, neither did Ball, and Ball had some really poor plays.
But along with other factors like contract issues as Deke mentions, Ball may have helped beat out Ogelsby with his special teams play, particularly as the gunner on that punt against the Vikings where he got blocked out of bounds and came back in beating to guys to nail the returner just as he caught the ball. That was exactly what a gunner should do.
by scottmaui on Sep 2, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That ST plays does get noticed....he keeps that up and i won't be hatin' on him as much....
Still don’t think he can hold Oglesby’s jock when it comes to covering receivers….
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by BoyzRback on Sep 2, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that was against two rookies
so we’ll see if he can do anything like that in a real game.
by scottmaui on Sep 2, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one thing you can't deny is the speed..
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by Wmillion on Sep 2, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
please use quotes and this is defn a fanshot
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by thebigham on Sep 2, 2008 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
where's the u been hammed?
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by Wmillion on Sep 2, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is a good fanpost
breaking news related to the cowboys, even if it isn’t original commentary.
however, I agree, should use blockquotes…
by scottmaui on Sep 2, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I added block quotes. Why do you have to hate on every other post? It gets old.
by Barrett14 on Sep 2, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Seriously bigham, the thought of watching out for the blog is nice but you are becoming a fanpost Nazi.
by Billito on Sep 2, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha-ha-ha!!!
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by silverblue5 on Sep 2, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking news about a player being cut
is definitely worthy of a FanPost, thanks for posting it for me Barrett14.
Again, here’s the vague differentiation of FanPosts and FanShots:
Fan Posts: breaking Cowboys news of importance or stories that are based on some original thought and ideas, or something that would be of obvious interest to almost all Cowboys fans
FanShots: Quick one-liners, quotes, pics or other stuff that isn’t vital news that might be of interest, things you don’t want to add any thought too but want to share, off-topic subjects for other teams or sports, stuff like that.
by Dave Halprin on Sep 2, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cracks me up every time someone goes off about a FS vs a FP.
Like seriously? Do people really get that upset over this crap? Let go people, just let go.. .
by sublimezg on Sep 2, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are talking about the 6th corner. The guy probably wouldnt
even make the game day roster. So its more about potential than production. Alan Ball is taller and faster. When you are all the way down at the 6th cornerback spot potential is more important.
I’m not surprised at all.
by quincyyyyy on Sep 2, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points quinc
Still, I’m shocked. I thought the Cowboys had something with Oglesby.
I also read that Bollinger is coming to town. Huh?
This just goes to show what I don’t know about the bottom of the roster.
That #38 sure should wrap up!
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 2, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Bollinger is signed next week
I’d say Marten is the next to be handed his walking papers, and if no one signs him, he’ll end up on our practice squad and then Bartel will be sent packing
by Deke on Sep 2, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Marten contribute nothing, stick him on the PS (or even better, hope some dumb team claims him for their 53 man roster)
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by APerfectStar on Sep 2, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's really disturbing
Is the fact that we have three backup players on this roster, Berger,McQuistan and Marten that have more so-called experience playing guard behind Kosier, yet our backup center, Cory procter, a player that I consider the softest of the backups on this roster, beats out the other three at the guard spot to start this week. What the bleep does that say about the other three backups on the roster that a backup center beats them out of their own natural position at guard. maybe we should cut McQuistan,Berger and Marten, if a Proctor beats them out.
What even worse, a guy we trade for last thursday, Holland has nine days to get to know the line calls, a line that plays similiar to the Saints, a team he played with for four years, He’s a veteran, Nine bleeping days and this guy couldn’t be ready for the Cleveland games, I mean come on… Can we hire someone in this organization that can evaluate line talent for a change…
by Deke on Sep 2, 2008 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 deke.....i hope Hudson Houck will be able to choose better o line prospects for us in the future...
cuz once again….next years draft will be heavily focused on finding replacements for the bums we’ve been carrying for the past few years……..
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by BoyzRback on Sep 2, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I don't get that move
From everything I’ve been reading this will be a short move for Protor. Once Holland get’s a little more time on the book he will replace Proctor.
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 2, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah....I foresee Holland playing week two against Philly..
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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by BoyzRback on Sep 2, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so.
I want to see that big boy in action!
That #38 sure should wrap up!
by Aaron Novinger on Sep 3, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
The O-line backups (other than Free) are not up to snuff. It’s disappointing that Holland wasn’t ready to sub for Kosier because I’m worried about 350lb Shawn Rogers blowing up the middle, and Proctor is no match for him.
It won’t help us this season, but our 1st priority should be OG in next years draft. Hope he beats out Kosier, and let Kosier become the swing OG.
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by APerfectStar on Sep 2, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shawn Rodgers is playing like a beast so far too....he's going to be a major problem come sunday..
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Sep 2, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
that’s my biggest concern, and they are going to have to give Proctor help in dealing with him
by scottmaui on Sep 2, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good thing
Gurode is one the biggest Centers in the league..
We have faced Shaun before we will be ready for him, he gasses quick..
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by Wmillion on Sep 2, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's better conditionally now....he's a force...
and i still think we should’ve made a run at him….but he was/is a bit too pricey….
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
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by BoyzRback on Sep 2, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes he better get to the QB
because that secondary is horrible.
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by Wmillion on Sep 2, 2008 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good points
Why hold 3 lineman that can’t get on the field even with an injury? Why not take a look at pass rusher, WR, and ILB? Everyone else was holding tryouts. Why weren’t we?
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by Wmillion on Sep 2, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was shocked, too
Still more shocked about Walden since Spencer has been ruled out of the game this week..
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by Wmillion on Sep 2, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
co-sign
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by silverblue5 on Sep 2, 2008 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep..agree
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by Boyzfan94 on Sep 2, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Sure I Care
If it ever got to a point where Ball or Oglesby were playing significant minutes in our defensive backfield, I’d say the season was in the toilet.
With Newman, Henry, Jones, Jenkins and Scandrick ahead of them, it would take some bad things to happen for either of these guys to contribute significantly other than on Specials. Bruce Read’s group hasn’t set the world on fire so far.
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by 5Blings on Sep 3, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else
think that some of Ball’s struggles had to do with the ankle injury he suffered early on in camp. I know all of the TC reports made it sound like he was playing great before the injury. And then you kind of wonder if once Oglesby turned it on, he felt he had to come back early if he had any chance of making the roster, and never let it get quite right?
by Mandmeisterx on Sep 3, 2008 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i was blowing assignments, and flat out getting smoked...
ankle had little to do with…lack of preperation, and practice time was partially the cause…..but anyone can use an excuse……you got to perform when put on the field….defensively…he didn’t……….but at this point, there is no use worrying about our 6th CB…..2 years from now, if he hasn’t made strides of cracking the top 4 CB’s…..then it’s off to the next prospect…….
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"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Sep 3, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
darnit boyzrback QUIT BLOWING ASSIGNMENTS
your better than that.
by 325424 on Sep 3, 2008 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah.....i'm slippin'.....3 more days.....woooo hoooo
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Sep 3, 2008 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i = He
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Sep 3, 2008 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ogelsby picked up by Ravens
Former Cowboys cornerback Evan Oglesby is going back where he came from. After having a stellar training camp but not making the final cuts here in Dallas, Oglesby was released on Tuesday to make room for special teams ace Keith Davis.
But Oglesby is headed back to Baltimore, where he spent two years as a backup. Oglesby was released by the Ravens in the final cuts in 2007, when the Cowboys quickly claimed him off waivers. After spending all of last season in Dallas, Oglesby apparently didn’t do enough here with the Cowboys, who opted for Alan Ball to be their sixth cornerback instead.
But at least Oglesby is getting another shot. Who knows, maybe he’ll be around for the final regular-season game at Texas Stadium when the Ravens come to town on Dec. 20.
by scottmaui on Sep 4, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good
He deserves to be on someone’s roster.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Sep 4, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh.....btw...I had posted on here that Oglesby would be picked up by Baltimore.....
hmmm….I guess I do know something….eh ?
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
"If you don’t take him off the field as a coach, he will just about die out there," Jerry Jones said. "That impacted my decision. It’s a Michael Irvin-type work ethic. That’s what we are talking about with Felix Jones."
- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones
by BoyzRback on Sep 4, 2008 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alan ball is slooooooooooooow..........
They should have cut him and kept Ogelsby… Keeping him on the roster provides almost no value to our team. He is terrible in man coverage, and in zone he doesn’t even step towards the receiver until he has the ball in his hands and is running down the field. You’d be better off dumping him also, and letting Watkins play some DB if needed.
- Hakrjak
by hakrjak on Sep 4, 2008 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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