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Dose Nate Newton belong in the HOF?

I was watching the 95 championship game.  You know Nate Newton really stood out to me and Madden in that game.  What are the chances that he makes it to the HOF.  I know that he had went to prison, and while playing had many run ins with the law.  But if you watch that game he ate Gilbert Browns lunch.  Then when he pulls he looked like Lenard Davis.  Also I think that Eric Williams needs to be considered.

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Where do you find the tape of these games, unless you recorded it way back when?

by grapejoos on Sep 23, 2008 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

It was being replayed

on NFL Network on Friday night and over the weekend I believe.

by Tristan on Sep 23, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Oh NFLN, how I miss you.

To answer the post, I’m not really sure what the standard resume is to be considered a HOF lineman. Newton was damn good for our dynasty run, but I’m not sure if he has the longevity, especially in light of his significant legal issues. Ditto Erik Williams, though he did at least force a rule change (no OL head-slaps), which should count for a little something.

by grapejoos on Sep 23, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

You know I thought about that, but when he got to dallas they didn’t have a good team. Plus he didn’t have much help. But I do agree how, did he distinguish himself Larry Allen did. I have to agree with you how about Novacheck.

TD

by littlewoozy9902 on Sep 23, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

for me

my dad used to tape some games so i have
92 super bowl
93 nfc champ and super bowl
94 vs Detroit and at New Orleans
95 vs Phili (twice-inc playoffs) and at Phili, Oakland, Atlanta, and Arizona (i’m still amazed at Larry Centers)
96- playoffs at Car
97- at Pitt, Wash, and vs. Chi
98- at Phili

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by MayurP on Sep 24, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Simply put

NO HOF for Nate

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Sep 23, 2008 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Along side his van

full of weed

wait for it

"May the wind always be at your back and the sun upon your face. And may the wings of destiny carry you aloft to dance with the stars

by GimmyJ on Sep 23, 2008 10:04 PM CDT reply actions  

hell yeah he does!

but i’m a homer and he went to my alma mater so of course i’m going to say that.

but he was a key cog in several championship teams and he wasn’t just another guy. he was big, massive, strong and important to the continuity of our line.

i also would like to point out that my school does not condone the criminal activities he engaged in AFTER leaving and they’ve gone out of their way to give him grief about it.

but will he get in? probably not. he played with LA and Allen and I think Williams were the perennial Pro Bowlers on that line. LA gets in and I think Williams should too but probably won’t. Newton’s case is a lot harder to make.

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Sep 24, 2008 2:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Big E was on his way

to being the best of all time before the car wreck. After that he was a shadow of his former self.

by JimmyJohnson on Sep 24, 2008 8:12 AM CDT reply actions  

True

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Sep 24, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Incredibly nasty OT, but just too short a time at that level.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Sep 24, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nate belongs

… in the Ganja Hall of Fame.

Canton? No.

Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.

by OskieOskie on Sep 24, 2008 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Nate will get some consideration, but Larry Allen is the only OL who will get in

The question for me is whether Darren Woodson gets in, or will he be overlooked like Cliff Harris has been overlooked

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Sep 24, 2008 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

You might be right

But it’s kinda messed up – LA was only on one of the 3 SB teams, all of which had great OLs. Oh well.

by grapejoos on Sep 24, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is true

but the other guys didn’t play for as long at as high a level as Allen did, though a case could be made for Newton and maybe Mark Tuinei

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Sep 24, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes he will

Your right for a SAFTEY that could cover a wide out ,support the run, and blitz aside from ED Reed name another saftey today that can do all that. (Maybe Polumolu)

TD

by littlewoozy9902 on Sep 24, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

the cowboys bias will still be taken into account

but personally, i find no argument with you at all

In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home

by MayurP on Sep 24, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bob Hayes, Cliff Harris, Chuck Howley, Lee Roy Jordan are not in the Hall of Fame

How the %$#& is that possibe?

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Sep 24, 2008 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

All those players have a solid case for enshrinement

I’m hopeful they let Hayes in finally, he should’ve already been voted in.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Sep 25, 2008 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

really

Not the supposed unbiased writers wink wink

TD

by littlewoozy9902 on Sep 24, 2008 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woodson should be in

but there are so many of his teammates that will definitely get in or are in (Aikman, Irvin, Smith, Allen, Sanders, maybe Charles Haley) that I can see Woodson not getting enough votes to make it.

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Sep 24, 2008 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Newton was a six time pro bowler, Stepnoski a 5 timer and E was a 4 time pro bowler. Tuinei went two times and went out in a way that left a bad taste in people’s mouths. If Newton doesn’t get in, certainly none of the others do…

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Sep 25, 2008 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nate was darn good

But HOF good, I’d say probably not.

I agree with the other guys, LA for certain, and Woodson should seriously be considered (if it was up to me he’d be in) but I don’t think he’ll get in. Safeties don’t get a lot of love from those HOF voters.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Sep 24, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Drew was one of my all time favorites....but if you look at his stats...he doesn't get in...

He had only 2 1,000 seasons i believe…….Tony Hill might have even put up better overall numbers…we were a very balanced attack back then, spread the ball around alot…..so none of the players from that time were gonna be awarded their just due because of it….Besides the obvious in Staubach and Tony Dorsett, Drew P) and Tony H) were awesome wideouts, pro bowl caliber, Back then 60-70 receptions would put you among the league leaders….Our supporting cast kept those two from putting up dominating HOF type numbers…….we had Golden Richards, Butch Johnson, Billie Joe Dupree, Preston Pearson, Robert Newhouse, Ron Springs, etc……sorta similiar in make up to what we have now with several excellent playmakers that will have an effect on the overall stats of each individual…..

A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.

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- Owner/G.M of the Dallas Cowboys , Jerry Jones

by BoyzRback on Sep 25, 2008 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Swann and Stallworth didn't have great stats either

but they’re in because they played on those great Steelers team and the same argument should be made for Pearson, he played on many great Cowboys teams including the SB team of ’77. He was selected to the all ’70s team so if a player can be considered one of the best of his day, he should get in.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 26, 2008 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree but...

How about the plays in the clutch Staubach didn’ t catch that hail mary himself, Drew caught 3 td passes against the Giants with a sprained ankle. Then their is the Atlanta game that Danny White brought the team back by himself oh no he had help from who… yes Drew caught two TDs including the game winner, comon stats alone shouldn’t be the mesuring stick. Look the Vikings of the seventies have more players in the HOF than the boys of that era how do the NON BAIASED writers explain that.

TD

by littlewoozy9902 on Sep 27, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

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