Cowboys vs. Redskins: What They're Saying
This week's edition of What They're Saying is one ticked-off affair. Look, there's no shame in losing to the Redskins, I think it's becoming obvious that they're a very talented football team. I hate losing inside the division, especially at home, but with the talent-level in the NFC East so high, it's going to happen. The reason it's a ticked-off edition is because the Cowboys played stupid football, I don't know how else to explain it. So I'll try to explain it as I go along.
Let's start with the obvious. Did you check out the stat-line for our running game? Abysmal. The number of yards isn't the key piece of information; it's the number of times we ran the ball. How can a team with Marion Barber and Felix Jones end up just abandoning the run in a game where the score was never out-of-hand?
"The style of defense they were playing was forcing us to do some other things," Garrett said. "We have to execute better in those other areas to be able to get back to some of those things you want to do. You have to aggressively take what the defense gives you."
Uh, how about dictating to a defense what you want to do. We put together an offensive line of road-graders and we didn't use them at all. We have one of the premier power-runners in the game and we didn't let him establish himself at all. We've seen what can happen if we hammer a defense repeatedly, but we didn't see it on Sunday. Jason Garrett is a talented coordinator, let's not lose sight of the fact that our offense has been one of the most explosive in the league under his tutelage, but on this day he lost sight of what works for us. How is play-action passing, one of our signatures on offense, going to work if the defense has no respect for the run game?
"It wasn't hard to run the ball against them," guard Leonard Davis said. "We had a game plan based on the looks they were giving us, and that dictated we stick with the passing game."
Aargh, there's that dictating thing again. We dictate to defenses, not the other way around. If they're crowding the line of scrimmage, how about getting wide on them and forcing them to respect us horizontally. Or how about using a technique that is essentially a run, the screen pass? We have a speedster in the backfield that can change the way a defense plays, but we never saw him play.
"Sometimes the game takes you certain places," Garrett said. "We tried to get [Felix] in on certain things as the game progressed. Yeah, we'd like to get him more opportunities. He's that kind of player. But just as the game went, we weren't able to get him his chances."
You weren't able to get him his chances because you chose not to. As Keyshawn used to say - just give him the damn ball. Are we all of a sudden so scared of defenses that we are going to let them make the calls for us on offense?
"He has a specific role that he plays," head coach Wade Phillips said of Jones, whose only touches came on four kickoff returns, for a total of just 54 yards. "The plays that he works on, they aren't really come-from-behind plays. They are more normal-game situation plays. We will be more and more comfortable with him as he learns more."
Come-from-behind plays? It's not like we were behind by 21 points! Even though the Redskins outplayed us on the day, the score was relatively close throughout the game. The coaching staff really did a lousy job on Sunday. With the talent we have on the offensive side of the ball, we should be doing the dictating. These excuses are terrible. I've also heard that Tony Romo was changing the plays at the line based on the defensive alignment. Well, there's an easy way to solve that, call plays without audibles and tell him not to change the play. Run what is called, and I do mean "run."
Click the link below to keep reading becasue there is plenty more to pick apart from this game, including a certain receiver who needs to re-think his commentary.
The following quotes come from the STFU department. Our man T.O., who has been the model teammate over the last few years, dipped his toe in the selfish pond with his post-game comments.
"It's no secret, when I get the ball things move, we move," said Owens, who was held to just two catches for 17 yards in last Sunday night's victory over Green Bay. "If not, you see a stagnate in the offense."
Yeah, it was really stagnant up in Green Bay. More STFU comments:
"Most of the time, I was getting in my routes and coming out of them, the ball was already going in another direction," he said. "They were really congesting the middle, played a lot of bump and runs, safety over top."
I guess T.O. didn't notice that about 1/3 of the offensive plays we ran were directed at him. He might not have noticed that Shawn Springs was up in his grill for most of the night, either. Look, T.O. you're the man, we know that, but it's not like the Cowboys didn't try to get you the ball, in fact, they probably forced it to you when they shouldn't have. We lost the game, it's only one game, but the last thing we need now is a return to the old T.O. who was a selfish player. So my advice - STFU. It was one game and the ball came your way a disproportionate number of times.
"Everybody recognized that I wasn't really getting the ball in the first half," Owens said. "I'm pretty sure everybody watching the game recognized it, people in the stands recognized it. I think my team recognized it."
Actually, during the game we recognized that Romo was forcing the ball your way. Now here is the one statement where you are actually making sense.
"There were some opportunities there, and there were some opportunities there where they were holding and the refs just didn't call it," Owens said. "You can't blame the refs; we just didn't make the plays."
The refs didn't cost us that game, so I'm not even trying to blame then. But I did think that the Redskins got away with a lot of physical play in coverage that could have been called much tighter.
The offense and the coaching staff weren't the only culprits yesterday. Our defense played poor coverage and couldn't tackle worth a darn. The breakdowns in the secondary were mainly centered on one of our best players, Terence Newman. Santana Moss proved to Cowboy-Nation that he doesn't need Roy Williams on the field to torch our secondary. Anybody will do just fine.
"(Moss) made some big plays today," Newman said. "He had one on me that I wasn't very smart on. Coach had went over the play in meetings, they ran the double-move; that was my fault. It was just something where I saw the opportunity to try and make a play, and I tried to take it and it didn't pay off."
It paid off alright, just not for us. It wasn't the only play that paid-off for them either. Newman is doing a little damage control on the James Thrash TD.
"I was trying to make a play scrambling and it happened to be a touchdown," Newman said. "That was a play that our offense ran the same play in mini-camp, in training camp, Pat (Watkins has) never seen it, but me and Roy (Williams) know to switch it, me and Ken (Hamlin) know to switch it, so I'm trying to get his attention and he's focused in on his guy. So I'm a sitting duck basically, you can't guard that play unless you switch it."
You may be right, I don't know. But it's hard to hear that kind of thing when there were plenty of other plays where the Dallas secondary couldn't handle Moss. Whether it was the coaching, the scheme, the players or that Jupiter wasn't aligned with Venus, they took advantage again and again of our secondary. And yes, T-New, your game wasn't up to snuff, yesterday.
"I was frustrated early in the game," Newman said. "The first half was basically a terrible half for me. The second half didn't have much come my way, so it's just one of those things where I just couldn't get anything going."
Well, at least you can admit it. I'll give you some credit for that.
As for the rest of the defense, you stunk, too. The missed tackles finally caught up to us as Clinton Portis steamrolled us, especially in the second half. That's something we usually do with Marion Barber and it was hard to watch it being done on us.
But there was a moment when we stopped them and might have gotten the ball back with time to win the game. Then a cruel joke was played on us all. We gave it back to them with a stupid penalty. Pat Watkins at least had the courage to take the blame for 12 men on the field.
"Apparently it changed; it was on me," Watkins said. "I should have been looking at the sideline. The personnel got switched and I was still in there."
"I can't understand how two players playing the position could be standing out there," Phillips said. "I can't fathom that. They were standing right next to each other."
Well, I can't fathom how we only ran the ball 11 times, didn't let Felix Jones touch the ball, and about 20 other things during the game. The players didn't play well, but our coaching staff was even worse.
"Somebody comes in and we just tell everybody and everybody is supposed to echo it along," [Campo] said. "Didn't get it done. That's our fault, that's not the player's fault. That's our fault, so I'll take that one."
You can take it Campo. And we can sit here and blame Jason Garrett for poor play-calling, we can blame Brian Stewart for not having the defense ready to stop Moss and Portis, we can blame a lot of people. But when it comes down to blaming the coaches, the buck stops with the man in charge. Wade Phillips is the guy who can override any decisions being made in the game and he never did. Wade, this one is on you, too.
"I thought they outplayed our offense, they outplayed our defense, they outplayed our special teams and our coaching. All of it. Take your pick."
I pick them all, and it's your responsibility to not let that happen.
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What a Stupid statement by Wade
“they are not come from behind plays” This kid can take it to the house at anytime and from anywhere on the field. GET THE BALL IN HIS HAND!!!!!!! It sounds like there making excuses so they don’t have to own up to trying to keep TO happy. Wade is starting to get to me. I hate a coach who makes excuses that don’t make any sense. Just say yes the game got away from us and we will never let what happen Sunday to our running game happen again. I take responsibilty as a HC to make sure we have more of a balance attack especially in a game that was still close. End of story and move on.
Where is the Romo quote?
How did the idea of going undefeated ever creep into this kids brain!!! Unbelievable!!
"The reality of it is, you have the opportunity to go 16-0 every year in the regular season, but that’s not realistic," said quarterback Tony Romo
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap;_ylt=AluB9QNGlTkcJKr8OrZMAoc5nYcB?gid=20080928006&prov=ap
It Dumbness like that from anyone on this team that lead you to believe these guys watch themselves on Sportscenter while filling up “the cheese.”
Umm...
The “idea got in his head” because a reporter asked him about it. And then he basically said “Well, yeah…it’s always a theory for every team in the NFL, but it’s so unrealistic we don’t think about it.”
You’re interpreting his answer to a question to give it the exact opposite meaning from what he intended.
by TimSchultz36 on Sep 29, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Well said Grizz
But when it comes down to blaming the coaches, the buck stops with the man in charge. Wade Phillips is the guy who can override any decisions being made in the game and he never did. Wade, this one is on you, too.
Its the head coaches job to prepare this team and game plan.
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
I will give T.O. the benefit of the doubt and hope most of his frustration was
from the loss. Romo threw his direction 17 times altough a couple of those were bad throws by Romo. Springs was just all over him most of the game and I think did get away with some excessive contact, the refs never seem to do T.O. any favors. It is a concern that for the most part he couldn’t shake Springs who is only a slightly above average corner.
Besides you know
that they asked him this question about 5 different ways and know that if they ask him enough he will end up giving them something they can use.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
+1
When I watched most of the interview with TO, I wasn’t offended, but when it was played back and certain parts were isolated, it sounded totally different. He still said some stuff that he probably shouldn’t have, but I do think it has been exaggerated a little bit.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
Stupid logic
If the defense dictates that we have to pass, but we repeatedly go three-and-out with three failed passes, hasn’t the defense just dictated that we have to run?
Where are the ints?
Us and Detroit are the only teams without a pick. Thats ridiculous for what this secondary is being payed.
This defense is not a turnover defense. Hasn't been for some time
Wade and Garrett made no sense in their comments. I think it was a stupid way of saying they screwed the pooch on this one.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
We can't get INTs.
It’s almost impossible to get an INT when you are 8-12 yards off of every receiver, every down. What’s the point of getting Pacman Jones and Mike Jenkins, who are both known for man to man coverage, if they are going to play a soft zone all of the time? Even Anthony Henry is built for bump and run, not zone.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
This secondary is best suited to play man to man. I don’t get the insistence on zone – I guess Wade has always been a zone guy?
That said, we could have had a few INTs this year, but clearly the secondary is letting the offense get what it wants too easily.
Agree with your take Grizz
I don’t mind that we lost – in fact, this team clearly needs some major servings of humble pie and this should serve it up – but the way that we lost was really annoying. This was like the Giants playoff game redux. Garrett didn’t learn the lesson the first time – he needs to learn it this time.
I feel violated.
They just dominated us in every aspect of the game. It’s bad enough that we got out coached, but they were pushing us around like we were the scout team. The game was nowhere near as close as the score, thanks to our own “garbage time touchdown.”
We got out muscled in this game, which is the part that hurts me. We looked like a finesse team, and I thought we were a smash mouth team. Our offense and defense got pushed around, and this is the second game in a row that T.O. got dominated by a physical corner. Maybe Bradie James can tell us about how he should be a pro bowler some more, too.
The coaching stank. If we expect to be true champions, we need to be dictating to other teams, instead of trying react to what they’ll give us. What are we, beggars? We should be punching teams in the mouth and telling them we are going to run, and you are not going to. In the ‘90s, every one in the league knew we were going to run the lead draw 15 times a game, but no one could do anything about it. That’s what this team has to do to be champs: impose their will on people. That’s what the Giants did to the Patriots in the Super Bowl, and what the Redskins did to us on Sunday. They said, “Here’s what we will allow you to do, and we will do as we please.”
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions
Bradie played well
I’m just sayin’
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Sep 29, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Not the way I see it.
He’s the defensive captain and the MLB, and they ran at will and ate us up with short passes.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Well then call out Zach Thomas too
You said it yourself, they play in the same situations.
I think you are totally wrong on this. You can’t have your offense run 3 and outs and expect the defense not to get worn down stopping the run game. As far as the short passes, you’re right SHORT passes. That’s what you expect from the ILB’s . They tackled immediately after the catch.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Sep 29, 2008 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm watching Wade now
he is double talking the crap out of himself……blah..blah…we passed over 40 times and no sacks……blah…blah….we wanted to run more…..blah……blah…we have to do a better job at running………geez…
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
Felix Jones 3 TD's in 3 games and no touches against the Redskins
that’s down right stupid on their part. One of the hottest players going into the game and you can’t find him the ball…Way to go Wade…..
I never saw much back pedaling in a news conference….
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
That may have been the biggest blunder in this game not letting him touch the ball.
No screens, no tosses, no draws, I don’t get it.
by houseofprime on Sep 29, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Our secondary better wake up with Houshmanzadeh, Ocho and Henry coming
to big D. Maybe Palmer will be out and give us a break.
I'm pretty sure Henry is still suspended
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
I thought it was 4 games maybe it is 8.
by houseofprime on Sep 29, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
You may be right
I don’t follow the Bengals or really care what happens to Henry, so I haven’t paid a lot of attention. It seems like Sherriff Goodell likes to hand out 8 game suspensions.
"So you can’t stiff arm at all? What about the throat?"- Marion "Barbarian" Barber
Talk about wasted ammo
I’ve bashed King Jerry over the years with poor drafts, stupid lengthy lucrative deals to aging players, and dumb things said out of his mouth.
However…
He and the scouts have improved and acquired all the necessary ingredients to set our Cowboys up for a Super Bowl run.
Shouldn’t our coaches put those players in position to win every single game?
11 freakin’ touches for The Barbarian (8 carries, 3 receptions) and nil for El Gato?!?! WTF?!?! U gotta be kiddin’ me.
Where’s the balance, the attack mentality, the innovative creativity, the keep ’em guessing on defense philosophy?
This reminds me a little bit of the 10-6 home loss to Philly last season where we were only down less than a TD, yet Red Ball kept having Romo pass the ball as if we were down by 21 or something.
Pathetic.
How do you leave all them bullets in the chamber?
Wasted ammo.
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How smart is Garrett?
I just hope that he’s smarter than he is stubborn, so that when every single team on our schedule tries to beat us the same way, he will do something different, instead of trying to prove that he was right all along. That seems to be an epidemic in coaching, the refusal to adapt because it’s admitting that you had a poor game plan in the past. I hope that Garrett is better than that and learns from his poor game plan in this game.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think that will happen
But I must admit, his failure to adapt yesterday was eerily reminiscent of the Giants game. If Romo keeps changing the play to passes, it’s time to talk to your QB.
The sky is not falling, everyone. This should only be a huge shock to those drinking too much kool-aid. Thankfully the Eagles lost yesterday too – the NFC East is going to be a battle, and it’s not clear who is the best (or worst) team.
He should have sat him for a series.
If that is truly the case, you need to sit the guy down for a series. You’re the coach, you’re in charge. Tell him, “Look, Tony, I can’t trust you to execute the game plan, so I’m putting in Brad.” Have Johnson run the exact plays called, and then ask Romo if he is ready to go back in and win the game on the next series. If he keeps doing it, bench him for the rest of the game.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Wade
Gives Tony the option to audible.
If not they call “iso” which means the QB cannot
change the play at the line.
I do think we should have run it anyhow
no matter if they were stacking the box or not.
But it all comes back to the coaching…Wade/Jason Garrett has the power to run Iso’s but they didn’t….thats why we ran 11 times and passed 47
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
yes, the coaches never called "iso"
so therefore Tony was coached to audible if he saw 8 men fronts at LOS. He just did the right thing, if the coaches wanted to run on 8 men fronts, they should have told Tony and called for “iso”
In Romo we Trust
To be clear
“Iso” has nothing to do with calling an audible or not. “Iso” is a type of running play. It is short for isolation and means the FB leads the running back through the line and the FB is isolated on the middle linebacker to make the block. It has nothing to do with audibling or not. Wade is saying we should have just called an “Iso” play with no alternative pass play.
by Dave Halprin on Sep 29, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks Grizz
I thought the term ‘Iso’ would be understood by Cowboys fans tho, what with Emmit and the Moose
Thanks Grizz
That cleared things up!
Needless to say they should have told Tony……We’re running the ball!!!!
HaHa!
WE should have run the ball Alot more!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
You don't buy a shotgun to swat flies.
What’s the point of having all of these big weapons on both offense and defense if we are not going to use them? Throw a few over Austin’s head 50 yards down the field, and it will at least back them off the line a little bit. Pound them into submission with the running game, unleash the pass rush by blitzing a little and trusting our corners to play them tight. Of course Newman is getting burnt when he has to run forward first, then backwards, every single down. Let him play tight and use his speed.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions
+1
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Sep 29, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
boy Grizz that was quite the rant
haven’t heard one of them from you in a while. I’m not into playing the blame game myself, the Cowboys lost as a team, players and coaches alike, they all have to review the film, correct their errors and move on.
I still have a lot of faith in the coaching staff and players, they’ll be fine, like Romo said, it was unlikely we’d go undefeated anyways, lets just move on to Cincy.
In Romo we Trust
It's not playing the "blame game"
It’s analyzing what happened. I tend to think most readers expect me to do that.
by Dave Halprin on Sep 29, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
you did do a fine job of analyzing the game
but your analysis has a harsher flavor than usual, thats all.
In Romo we Trust
I sensed the frustration as a fan...
…but then again, I don’t blame him. I felt his pain.
Yesterday’s loss most definitely hurts.
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that's because we lost
and we played stupidly in our loss. That deserves to be called out.
by Dave Halprin on Sep 29, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
+2
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Sep 29, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
They beat us at our own game
Usually its the Cowboys who overwhelmingly dominate time of possession especially in the second half, but this what the redskins did to us. Usually we make teams one dimensional but this time we were when we didn’t need to be. Its a bad division loss but fortunately we have a good 4 game stretch of relatively easy games until we go to New York to play the giants. Lets also not worry about T.O. yes he should have shut his mouth, but I believe he was just a competitive player upset after a loss.
OVERREACTION?
No Cowboys fan should be happy today after what looked like uninspired play against a long time rival who has had our number recently. But the whole “most talented roster” and top-of-the-power-polls stuff just makes me sick and frankly, I am glad it is over. I don’t want my team peaking in September, I want them peaking in December.
After big games against Philadelphia and Green Bay in consecutive weeks, it’s hard not to see some sort of letdown in a game that rides on emotion.
None of this excuses the poor coaching and execution across the board, but let’s understand it for what it is; 1/16th of a regular season. I truly believe you’ll see the Cowboys play inspired football the next few weeks, then get more hype as the best tem in the league, and then lay another egg (aka some bonehead game against St. Louis or Tampa).
This is one of those defining moments for a team and a coaching staff where it can either galvanize them in their resolve to be the best, or start to tear away at the seams of what holds them together. Based on Wade’s style, I doubt you’ll see a Tuna or Jimmy-esque reaction that really gets the players’ minds right. If its going to happen, it will need to come from the players. I think it can.
Let’s not overreact, just yet.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
They better because our next three teams we
face are bad teams. We better take care of business and go 3-0 over the next three weeks. Just remember, Cinci had the Giants on the ropes and they did it through passing so we can’t take them lightly. I really like Chris Henry and he could be trouble for us. If he wasn’t such a screw up he would be one of the better #2 Wr’s in this league. He has the size and speed to go along with good hands. All three of those Wr’s can play. The problem with Cinci is they can’t run the ball and can’t play defense.
Look up... get up...Don't ever, ever give up!!
we lost. it sucks.
but we get another crack at it sunday. at home. against another team we should beat.
we’ll be alright.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
2 things that I didn't understand
1) The failure to use our running game.
The offense has a strength and the coaches directly responsible,Garrett and Wade, don’t use it. I think Garrett is a great OC, but did he really not think to run more? The game was never out of reach, especially enough to abandon the run like they did. This team is balanced between being able to beat opponents using both the run and the pass. (And using a play fake to set up a pass when you never run is beyond stupid.)
I hope to heck that if Garrett didn’t know it already, he learned from this failure. If he already knew it, and was being stubborn, Wade needs to exert his power as HC and make Garrett run the ball at least 20 times a game, bare minimum.
2) Do the Cowboys run some kind of melded 3-4 front and Tampa-2 defensive backfield? I was under the impression that this defense was going to be aggressive and attacking and play tight man to man coverage the majority of the time. Or at least line the CB’s right up against the LOS to bump and jam the receivers before they pass them off to the LB or safety in a zone coverage. (I’m not being sarcastic, I really would like to know)
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
DEFENSE
It’s all about the defense, The Cowboys give up too many big plays. They won’t win a Super Bowl anytime soon unless they deal with this problem, they did little to address it this past off season, until that gets fixed the Boys will go no where, especially with T.O screwing with the chemistry of this team.

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