Garrett Passed Over by Denver, Herring Talking to Ok. State

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 9:46 PM CST Comment 75 comments

Jason Garrett was passed over by the Denver Broncos, who hired former Pats OC Josh McDaniels to be their new head coach, according the NFL.com's Adam Schefter.

Garrett may also be lagging in Detroit. Reports in the Detroit News had the Lions interviewing Titans DC Jim Schwartz for a second time today, though the story suggests that Schwartz is getting the full hometown interview this time, rather than a brief game-week initial meeting. The National Football Post's Mike Lombardi listed Schwartz as Detroit's favorite late last week.

-- Cowboys OLB coach Reggie Herring interviewed for the Oklahoma State defensive coordinators job over the weekend.

Herring deserves credit for helping Demarcus Ware raise his rush game this year. Ware's sack total jumped from 14 in '07 to 20 this year, in part because he improved his hand usage and began setting up blockers better. Wade Phillips will have a tough call replacing Herring if he leaves.

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There would be no tough call

just promote Dat Nguyen

by quincyyyyy on Jan 11, 2009 9:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Nguyen

who never played OLB?

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 9:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Oh I thought Herring was the linebackers coach in general

I didn’t realize we had a separate one for OLB’s. Then who coaches our ILB’s?

by quincyyyyy on Jan 11, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Herring did coach them all

but he worked mostly with the OLBs.

I saw Dat spending time drilling the ILBs and working on special teams in camp.
Parcells used to split this job between two guys. Dat may get the ILB job but I would
think another coach would be hired to work with the rushers.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I would really like to see Dat become our DC in the next couple of year.

I think with his mentality and character he would make a great DC.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 11, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

actually the cowboys website has him listed just as a linebackers coach

so I think Nguyen would make a great replacement for Herring.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 11, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

One way Phillips can keep him...

is promote him to DC.

by troysboys on Jan 11, 2009 9:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Even Detroit doesn't want Garrett

Garrett is bordering on being umemployable.
But what a fall.

by ym on Jan 11, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

That's not clear

The Det. News story is back up. Schwartz had a rushed interview in Tennessee last week.
This is the first time he gets to visit Detroit, which Garrett did last week.

They may indeed like him and hire him but the story doesn’t indicate that Schwartz is the guy.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and yeah, what a fall

a $3M a year fall into his current place.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No bashing you

but I would LOVE to be “unemployable” like that.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

last time I checked ym

Garrett is employed by the Cowboys and Jerry has no plans on firing him.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 12, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm betting that

Josh McDaniel will take Dom Capers with him to Denver.

by troysboys on Jan 11, 2009 9:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

maybe

didn’t Capers work with New England this year?

Remember, McDaniels was N.E.’s secondary coach before he took over the offense.
He may reach out to one of the old Belichick guys like Crennell.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Capers

is currently secondary coach/special assistant with the Patriots. I’m sure he’d love a promotion. As for Crennel, I’m sure he’d just love a job.

by troysboys on Jan 11, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Mike Nolan to be named Denver D-Coordinator

Source is Adam Schefter of NFL.com.

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by silverblue5 on Jan 12, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Remember now that the gints are out of the playoffs, spags comes into play for other teams.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Jan 11, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Great.

I really thought he would get this job.

by joey7289 on Jan 11, 2009 10:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

If Spags gets a job

it would likely be with the Jets.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think he's getting the Jets job.

I live in NY and all the papers are saying it’s him…that might have changed today, plus I heard he didn’t interview good.

by joey7289 on Jan 11, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I keep thinking of Mickey when I read that LOL

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by Nelson... on Jan 11, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Rex Ryan now front-runner -- as of 1/12/09

Source is the Newark Star-Ledger.

Since the Jets have da personnel to run a 3-4 defense, it would most definitely make sense.

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by silverblue5 on Jan 12, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yes it would

Get spags out of the NFC east

"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"

by Wmillion on Jan 12, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I never understood why Rex Ryan hasn't got more consideration for a HC job

He has had that Baltimore D performing well for many seasons, not just one or two like Spags and Garrett. And while he has kept some core players (Lewis, Reed), he has also had a fair bit of leakage that (e.g. Thomas) that he has plugged very well – a mark of a strong coach in my view.

Seems like owners and GM’s are after “hot” coaches like Spags and Garrett last year – even though they only had one strong season under their belt.

by BoyfromOz on Jan 12, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OT

Dallascowboys.com has an interesting article about how our offense will change next year.

Looking at some of the quotes from Wade Phillips it seems he would like us to become a run oriented team.

It said our pass to run ratio was 58 to 42. I would like to see those numbers flip next year.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 11, 2009 10:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

58 to 42

Those numbers better be flipped, or I’ll drive all the way from Little Rock to Dallas and personally run Phillips and Garrett out of town.

When you’ve got three great RBs, you run the ball.

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by Nelson... on Jan 11, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

48% would be fine with me

No NFL team runs the ball 58% of the time.

I did a piece in December last year showing that of the top offensive teams, the Pats, Cowboys, Packers, Colts, Eagles, etc. the MOST any team ran the ball was 44%.

It’s a passing league. A “running team” is a relative term.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Giants have done pretty well over the past couple of year running the ball

but yeah around 48% would look good maybe a little higher.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 11, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Here you go

New York had the best rushing attack this year —
and they ran 50.5% of the time.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah just noted that below

and Baltimore had 433 to 592

by quincyyyyy on Jan 11, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I stated on a previous thread that

with 3 good running backs, we should be a run first offense. I agree with a 52-48% run-pass ratio.

by troysboys on Jan 11, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking 52 pass, 48 run

I doubt many teams ran the ball 50% this year and barely more than that.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed Raf

The Cowboys will become more balanced, but they’ll never be a running team with Garrett.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 12, 2009 7:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd have to look

but my guess is the league leaders in rushing attempts run it
maybe 51 or 52% of the time.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Giants had 491 to 502 pass to run

so about 50/50.

But Baltimore had 433 to 592. But I think 50/50 would be good with the talent we have at running back.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 11, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Until this offense line shows it can blast out holes like New York's

I don’t think it matters who the RBs are.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly what I was thinking.

by hiafex on Jan 11, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

You can’t be successful with a +50% run ratio unless your offensive line absolutely blows people up. Anyone think our line can do that consistently? I don’t.

We definitely need to run the ball more and better, but let’s not kid ourselves and think that this team would win with a 58-42 run-pass ratio.

by DannyWhite on Jan 12, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 12, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and you would need a lights out D.

"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"

by Wmillion on Jan 12, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

there’s no need to shackle the Cowboys offense.

Romo isn’t a rookie. You want to go back to the Parcells days, where Bill tried winning 17-14 games every week?

Cause that’s what Baltimore is doing.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Parcells

I loved it when the team would have a four point lead early in the third quarter, and he would basically commit to not turning the ball over and show no interest whatsoever in scoring points.

He was actually kind of aggressive in his Giants days – not in his Dallas days though.

by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 11, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Until we get an Ed Reed

if we tried a run/pass ratio like Baltimore’s we’re going back to ’06 and ’05. Think losing to Seattle 13-10 in the rain, or to Oakland 13-9.

No thank you.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Not if....

We actually get a coach that can coach the offensive line (as well as get some OL depth). Raf, do yo think Stewart can coach the LB’s? Could he being “demoted” to lb coach make way for Dom Capers to come here as DC? Or do you think he is now bound for Denver?

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by DallasPalace on Jan 11, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Who out there...

would be a player that resembles an Ed Reed in this Draft? Would you think Corey Chavous from Detroit would be a good pickup for us if he was available for FS, and if not, what possible FA would you consider a good fit for our D?

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by DallasPalace on Jan 11, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh good God

Wade Phillips runs the D.
It’s his scheme.
He calls the plays.

Dom Capers isn’t coming.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The problem on defense isn't scheme

it’s lack of discipline (too many offsides penalties) and lack of talent at safety.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 11, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

+1

"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"

by Wmillion on Jan 12, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It sounds like the tone in your post Rafael that...

you believe we are in trouble if Herring leaves. I say we are in trouble no matter what, since Wade will not be able to change, because that is the real question. Do you believe Wade can make changes that will make a difference?

"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"

by DallasPalace on Jan 11, 2009 10:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Not really

any coach can be replaced.

But Herring improved Ware. And Spencer needs to take the next step in his development.
I don’t fear the change but the team can’t be flippant about replacing him either. They’ve got
a 20 sack guy and if they can get Spencer to 8-12 sacks opposite him this team can get
55-60 sacks again.

The big changes? I don’t know. I’ll have to see what he does with his staff.

He was 13-3 his first year. The team took him seriously and studied their game plans hard. That attention to detail was not there.

I’ve said before a lot of that comes down to improving the roster, and weeding out as many marginal players/penalty takers as possible. It’s too early to say how that shakes out.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 12, 2009 12:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be happy

to get a LB’ing coach who’ll just go bail Spencer out of jail.

I wonder what Herring was doing that was any different than what Pasqualoni did?? If anything?? Also, Ware didn’t just improve, he’s been doing that every season since he got drafted, but James took a big step forward. Especially down the stretch. He’s got to get some credit for that.

by kameleon_o on Jan 12, 2009 12:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

How much of that was due to Wade taking over the defense?

I do think that James showed a lot of improvement down the stretch, but I think a lot of that was due to better defensive play calling, and also a lot due to teams focusing more on Ratliff, freeing up the MLB to make more plays.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 12, 2009 6:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

They were getting mashed in the Redskins and Rams losses.

It wasn’t scheme. They were blowing assignments and just getting outhit.

Washington and especially the Rams were not running anything crazy. They were lining up and ramming the ball down Dallas’ throat.

The line and the LBs were soft. Wade fixed it, but it was more a matter of getting the run defense to play its assignments better, use more aggressive technique and stopping their freelancing (casts a glance in Chris Canty’s general direction) that made for the biggest improvement.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 12, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

mcdaniels will do well in denver

he would’ve done great here but w/e
and about the defense..it’ll play to what we expect it to
if wade continues calling the plays
they’ll play well, get sacks, hopefully get ints, but it will be our offense that will have to end up scoring more than our d gives up
unless we get more consistency in the d-line (aside from ratliff) and better safeties we’ll be pretty good but not top 5
the offense will hopefully become much better regardless if garrett stays or not
if we run it with our 3 very capable backs and then use the play action with romo we can tear defenses up and wear them out

"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips

by MrMinority on Jan 11, 2009 11:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Discipline

Rafael is right on when he states the problem isn’t scheme but lack of discipline. It always makes me shake my head when the Boys get beat deep and then to watch all the DB’s point at each other.

My brother sent me the below mock yesterday – not sure where he got this from.

2. Jonathan Luigs – OC – Arkansas
3. Louis Delmas – FS – Western Michigan
4. Ramses Barden – WR – Cal Poly
4. Scott McKillop – ILB – Pittsburgh
5. Ellis Lankster – CB – West Virginia
5. Mike Reilly – QB – Cen Washington
6. Jaimie Thomas – OG – Maryland
7. William Beatty – OT – William Beatty

by tyler2 on Jan 11, 2009 11:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

blah

by quincyyyyy on Jan 12, 2009 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No NT? or any DL for that matter?

I like the first two guys…

by Rafael Vela on Jan 12, 2009 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That was my reaction....

We need DL depth with the free agency of Canty and Spears going into his last year of his contract.

by troysboys on Jan 12, 2009 8:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Will Beatty?

Wait, this guy’s so good, they named the school after him?

by Turbo73 on Jan 12, 2009 12:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Will Beaty?

Any guy that gets a school named after him gets my vote :)

by BishopWest on Jan 12, 2009 8:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Delmas

rated top 20 senior, what are the chances he falls to the 3rd round?

"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"

by Wmillion on Jan 12, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Just so you all know…

Teams can win by throwing the ball as well and this team does have some talent in the passing game.

I think a nice 50/50 balance would work best.

0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.

by gee-roj on Jan 12, 2009 8:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Look at this team when it was winning Super Bowls

an almost 50/50 mix.

Now I looked at the story and all Wade said was running more. He didn’t mention any ratios. Which is good. A 58/42 mix is nuts with this team.

Those are the ratios Bum was running in Houston when he had Earl Campbell and nobody to throw to besides Ken Burroughs.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 12, 2009 9:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Which is the run, the 58 or the 42?

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Jan 12, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What is considered a run?

58/42 does seem gawdy to me but..

I would almost count plays like those throws to T.O. on the line of scrimmage as runs too since any yardage gained was by running the ball and not from the pass itself. I think that is why the ratio looks so skewed towards the pass.

Granted I think Garret calls those types of plays too much but that could be a result of ineffective run blocking from the OL.

Maybe screens and passes to the RB’s in the flats should be considered “long handoffs” too, but I am not watching all that tape.

Just my opinion.

Game Recognize Game

by pretty ricky on Jan 12, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree - its about getting the RB's the ball - even if its technically a pass

More checkdowns, more passes in the flat or underneath the LB’s. All 3 of our RB’s seem to be good receivers (for RB’s) with the potential to turn these sorts of plays into much bigger ones.

This would make it harder for Defences to get a read on what we are doing and force the LB’s and Safeties to play up more – which should help that vertical game that is being shut down by good Defences now.

by BoyfromOz on Jan 12, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, a 58/42 ratio is ridiculous

when you have a top 10 qb and very good receivers.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 12, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow I never thought you would say we have good WRs

But I agree, with our talent there is no reason why we shouldnt pass more than we run. I think something like 54-46 pass to run

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

potentially good

they need to run better routes but they obviously are extremely talented.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 13, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I

like reading Raf’s posts …. always informative.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by what_the_crap on Jan 12, 2009 10:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

All you BTB guys that never read BSR are in for a treat then...

Cuz Raf’s draft write ups are some of the best on the net, and the regulars from BSR add alot too. Good stuff to get your mind off the fact that the boys aren’t in the playoffs.

Game Recognize Game

by pretty ricky on Jan 12, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs