Garrett to interview with Rams; Cowboys make roster moves
by Dave Halprin on Jan 12, 2009 8:22 PM CST
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PrintJason Garrett's interviews continue, he's going to meet with the Rams front office on Wednesday to discuss their head coach opening.
[Jason] Garrett is expected to interview with Rams' executives on Wednesday in Los Angeles and is considered one of the five finalists for the position, along with current interim head coach Jim Haslett, Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier and Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan.
More on Garrett and the Rams, here. Again, I say that even though he had some struggles this year, the Cowboys would benefit from having Garrett back as the OC. I also think Tony Romo would benefit from not having to learn a new system, or at least a variant of the current system. I'm confident Garrett is smart enough and flexible enough to realize some of the mistakes from this year and correct them going into 2009.
Garrett is technically still a candidate in Detroit but it appears they are looking at some other guys, mainly Titans DC Lions Jim Schwartz.
We made some minor roster moves today. Junior Siavii will get another chance at the NT position. Also, although I haven't seen this reported anywhere else, we supposedly signed DB Jerome Carter who was a fourth-round pick of the Rams in 2005 and played quite a few games for them before being released this past summer and Matt Spanos, a center who was with the Dolphins last summer as an undrafted free agent.
Come on, Anthony Spencer, get with the program.
According to police, Spencer had alcohol on his breath as well as "slurred speech, red glossy eyes and a belligerent attitude."
Upon being told they would be arrested, Spencer responded, "Who cares? Go ahead," police said.
Nice. Sounds like someone could use a little attitude adjustment or stay away from alcohol all together.
You can always count on JJT to stir the pot.
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I posted these in regards to the JJT article.
Who are these yesmen he refers to, he covers dallas he should know who they are. Oh wait its JJT again stirring things up in the offseason because until things get decided its just hot air. JJT again standing on the soapbox of omnipotence. Did he really just say that he should have hired Sean Payton? An unproven hc prospect ahead of BP, yeah that was not as risky and if not that he should have hired sparano because 13-3 team demanded a coaching change. I wonder if JJT had an article about how JJ should have fired WP after a 13-3 season, I doubt it, but here he is saying that JJ missed out on sparano. Could it be that Sparano and BP as a team made the Dolp a better team, not just sparano by himself? This article shows there is no accountability with these guys, they are not paid to make inciteful and accurate takes, they are here to provoke and antagonize to force people to choose sides. Another tool on this DMN team I hear this past thurs on CC 1230 scott howe show was Calvin "the a-hole" Watkins. In another example of lazy analysis he says that dallas will go 6-10 next year; seroiusly. Before the coaching situation is settled, OTA’s, and Training Camp he is confident that dallas will be a sub .500 team. Will anyone remember that, other than myselft I doubt it so to answer your open question about whether JJT article makes me think, the answer is an obvious NOOOO!!!!! JJT and calvin are not the only ones but two examples of what they are, lazy, knee-jerk analysis.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Jan 11, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would also like to add to my earlier post that other than being a guy that BP wanted because he was one of his guys. Did anyone think that Sparano was going to be a good HC, everyone was fawning over JG and other coordinators, I do not remember anyone saying last year that dallas missed out by not hiring TS to be the next head coach.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 11, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another point in JJT, he was floating the idea that JJ would possibly fire WP during this season when he was on ESPN, (this was before the 2nd redskins game). The ESPN guy said that JJ never fired a head coach during the season before, and JJT said, "he also said that he was not going to trade for a WR this year, you never know". Well the question should be, shouldn’t this little worm have an idea of what JJ would do, not just throw it out there like "well, it could happen", any schmuck could have said that.
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Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Ole C-Wat is the guy
who before the 2007 season predicted the Cowboys would go I believe 9-7 or 10-6 and then said he wasn’t backing down from his prediction even when the Cowboys were already 9-1. The guy isn’t very credible.
You’re also right that after the 2007 season nobody that I knew was crying for Sparano to be kept. Garrett was the future. Especially after the poor showing by Sparano’s O-line against the Giants. I will say though that I was a big fan of the idea after Parcells left of promoting Sparano to the O-coordinator job instead of just anointing Garrett to the position. I thought Sparano had done a pretty good job in that position in Parcells last year and I was confident he would do even better without the Parcells leash on. I thought it was unfair to just give the job to a guy like Garrett who had only been a position coach for 2 years and had never even installed an offense before. I kind of thought Sparano got the shaft that year.
Grizz my post is a collection of posts in response to another commentor, do not take them as comments directed at your stuff.
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no problem cowboy78
I don’t mind if people disagree, or agree, with what I post. I just write what I think, I don’t expect everybody to think the same way.
by Dave Halprin on Jan 12, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
Cool, just did not want to send the wrong message; I know you can handle criticism.
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I don't normally agree with JJT, but he is onto something
TO or Garrett must go
Romo may be the other……
Both were outspoken after the last game about Garrett’s play calling.
Garrett must be the one that goes. Romo nor, TO have faith in his play calling abilities so something must give. Garrett getting a HC job will solve the problem for us. I believe Sherman as OC would do a better job of communicating with the players than Garrett.
Yep
TO couldn’t understand the coach. Owens thought he was supposed to give up on the route or drop the pass on that play.
Romo must’ve got his signals crossed with coach. Tony was sure he was supposed to throw to the DB or option to a fumble on that play.
Poor scheme.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
You actually think Garrett did well this year?
Was its TOs fault he wasnt moved around before the snap to help him beat the press?
And was it Felix Jones’ fault he didnt touch the ball in the Washington game?
Yeah its all the players fault
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Not all the players
but think about a second-year OC who loses two-thirds of his running backs for much of the season, loses his LG, loses his QB for three games then gets pizzpoor attitude and spotty performance from his No. 1 receiver and QB.
Not all coaching either, aussie.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
No, I agree its not all on the coach
I think in terms of responsibility for the teams poor performance it is a combination of coaches and players
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2009 7:53 AM CST up reply actions
We agree
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Garrett needs to learn a little better game management.
I think his big problem is abandoning the run too early when the Cowboys are down. He seems to be impatient about making up the lead immediately, and is not willing to play field position and time of possession. Maybe that’s a lack of faith in the defense or his young running backs, but he needs to learn to trust those units and have more patience. They had a 40/60 run pass ratio this year, but only 30/70 in the losses. In 4 of those games, I think sticking with the running game would have helped tremendously, WAS, ARI, PIT, BAL. If JG can learn to trust his D and run game in situations where the Cowboys are down but the game is close, I think that will be a huge leap forward for him and the team. It will also get the run/pass ratio closer to what I believe is their sweet spot, 45%.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 13, 2009 7:58 AM CST up reply actions
I agree completely
and hopefully next year, with another full year of experience JG will learn from these mistakes and ge our offense going like it was last year
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2009 8:04 AM CST up reply actions
I agree that JG needs to trust his run game more but
I have a hard time blaming him for not trusting the D last season. They just weren’t trustworthy. I know I had my fingers crossed every time they were on the field.
As far as the run game I’m hoping that the addition of Kosier will help there. Those guys need to be drilled unmercifully on running plays. Too many whiffs on blocks in open space for my liking and I’ll never understand how such a big line can get so little push up the middle. That’s ridiculous.
This Comment was so ON THE MONEY!!!
Our O-Line is Huge and not in the best condition.
Pass blocking that much takes more of a toll on those 300+ pound uglies and requires increased stamina as opposed to run blocking. Having more of a balance on offense sustains the offensive lineman from a physical standpoint, in my humble opinion.
And I so agree with BPS that just because we’re behind early in the game, doesn’t mean we drastically increase the ratio to a lot more passing plays.
The loss at home to Washington in ’08, we trailed by less than a TD for most of the 2nd half and Red Ball dialed up tons of pass plays as if we were behind by 21 pts.
The loss at home vs Philly in ’07, it was pretty much the same, and we only lost that game like 10-6. The playcalling in the ’08 loss to Washington so reminded me of the ’07 loss to Philly @ home.
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by silverblue5 on Jan 13, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
I agree Boyz, Garrett will not receive a HC job though.
There in which lies the problem. Garrett will be back out of default. This offense will suffer under him. I disagree with the assertion that keeping Garrett here would help Romo for continuity purposes. That holds no weight. He (Garrett) has interviewed for over 5 HC positions in the last 12 months (actually turning two down). Does this sound like a guy you can count on being around here much longer ? Or does this sound like a guy that is selfishly seeking to better his career as a HC elsewhere, even if it requires him to take a pay cut. Where is the devotion ? The commitment to overcome a poor showing calling offensive plays and formations ? I agree with JJT, as far as one of the two mentioned should go, but I totally disagree with his selection, and the reason to retain him. TO will be here next year, whether he wants to or not, as he is under contract. Garrett on the other hand can leave whenever he wants, and from what i’ve witnessed, he may have blown his chances of receiving HC opportunities in the future. That’s a damn shame if we are actually stuck with his services next season. Garrett should be flat out released in my opinion, and his job should be given to a Shanahan, a Saunders, or Russ Grimm for the same 3 million . One good thing found in JJT’s article was his reclaimation that indeed it was Sparano who was responsible for the pass protections and running offense plays. Hmmm, Coincidence that our pass protection was horrible, and our running game was pathetically predictable ? Get rid of the Red Head and Keep TO, as the other choice is way overated for his offensive prowess.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 12, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
"does this sound like a guy that is selfishly seeking to better his career as a HC elsewhere"
Name one good coach that wouldnt want to go from being a co-ordinator to a good HC position? Your argument doesnt make sense and you contradict yourself when you say that he has turned down two HC jobs but then imply he wants to leave no matter what
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
no, sorry, maybe i didn't articulate it correctly.
My primary point was that if Garrett is continuelly wanting to better himself by becoming a HC, then it doesn’t seem to bolster the thoughts of some on here that would rather have him stay here to maintain continuity….meaning if he was offered another HC chance this year or next, inevitably he’s going to be gone.In my opinion, he should be gone now, while we move forward and replace him with a man who in content on staying here, and being the offensive play caller and mentor to Romo. Garrett is now in “lame duck” status, as far as I’m concerned, because he’ll be outta here the moment he gets his chance.. So why keep him ? He’s not respected now, and he surely won’t be respected in the future by staying here. Was that more clear ?
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 12, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
ok I get what youre saying now but I still disagree
I think Garrett will improve alot next year
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe if he had
taken the Atlanta or Baltimore jobs he would still be coaching in the playoffs, and we would still be watching from our couches?
The problem is that if you replace him
and that guy has success then you’re going to be in the same situation you are now with other teams courting your O-coordinator for a HC job. Unless you go out and hire a guy that’s like a million years old like the guy in Indy or something.
The good thing about keeping Garrett is that Romo gets to play in the same offense, albeit hopefully with some tweaks, Garrett will have another year under his belt and will hopefully have learned some things, and even better is that Romo and the others won’t have to learn ANOTHER system all over again. I don’t think anyone wants to have to go through that again. Especially when for the most part the system isn’t the problem just the way Garrett made adjustments to the system during the game and also some of the playcalling. I’d like to see if he can fix the problems myself.
a little off topic
this morning i was looking in my backyard, and lo and behold, i see a coyote trottin’ across my lawn. Now, that may not be a big deal to some of you, but I live in a nice residential neighborhood in Charleston, SC.
Will he stick around? Will he eat dogs/cats? Can I tame him and have him be my sidekick and help me solve crimes?
Was it a fast trot or more leisurely?
Are the dogs/cats plump? How about the small children? Are you sure it’s a “he”?
by StillHateTheGiants on Jan 12, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Coyote
I live on a small ranch in North Texas and we see and hear coyotes all the time. They generally avoid humans and wisely so. A coyote 100 yards or more away will stop and check to see if you (the 2 legged apex predator) are looking at them, and if so, they hustle away.
I would be very leary of any coyote that didn’t stay very far away from you and your scent. Maybe it’s just here in Texas but all the coyotes seem to instinctively know to keep far away from all humans. If one here gets too close to the house it’s because he’s not right in the head, it’s a fatal lapse in judgement.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Seriously though if
you have a small dog or something they will eat them. Don’t leave they outside by themselves.
I was out at 29 Palms in California,
and I acutally saw a coyote chase a road runner. The Coyote kept a steady trot, while the rr flew about 10 yards away. Just when the coyote was on it, it flew away another 10 yards. This kept on for as long as I had them in my sight.
Beep beep.
TO's caused it
TO distracted Spencer in the locker room. Spencer then went to the bar and couldn’t get TO out of his mind. Therefore, he became drunk and belligerant.
nice use of sarcasm
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe this is good
with Garrettt getting rejected for these HC jobs
.
It may light a fire under his ass!!
Light a fire ?
or will he just fester in the charred ambers of an offensive scheme he’s kindled around here with for a year. Break out the fire exstinquishers already. Put the flamer out of his misery.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 12, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
well
the cats are plump, i wouldn’t say deliciously plump. no kids, so that’s not a concern. He could be a she, of course.
I know that there’s a cougar next door, and I’m sure she’s a cougar. I’ve often watched her in the back yard as well, as well as watched her back yard.
I should call him Jason Garrett, because I’m sure he’s a Wile E. Coyote, super genius.
If your cats are outdoor cats they are toast. The cougar may attract bears ,sharks , or crabs though .
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
you can always count on JJT to stick the knife in...
he loves to really agitate cowboy fans and taunt us by lamblasting our team….i think it’s kinda juvenile….he gets off on really overbearing criticism…he’s not so big on effusive praise……
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
true...
just wish JJT wasn’t so happy about it. it’s the difference between someone telling you solemnly your dog died and someone skipping over to your desk giggling to tell you the same thing……my bad for the animal reference. been watching the dog whisperer all day. lol….
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
My problem with him is that he just throws out some lame crap
not caring if it’s true or not but just that it has the chance to be true and then pats himself on the back about how he saw this all coming.
That's 90% of sports reporters and experts.
I actually did “laugh out loud” when I read an article about how Shanahan might be coming to Dallas in 2010. Or 2009. Or possibly neither. It was supposedly according to team sources, and listed the same reasoning that members of this board and other fans all knew about, about why he might and might not end up here. Basically, anyone from this board or another Cowboys fan site could have written the exact same article based on the fan discussions, and just cited team sources. After all, it had the bold prediction of something that might happen this year or next year, or not at all.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 13, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Wow...
Upon being told they would be arrested, Spencer responded, “Who cares? Go ahead,” police said.
Too bad he didn’t show that kind of attitude during the season….
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by Raul Villaronga on Jan 12, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions
the whole defense
had that attitude the last two games…..
“who cares,Go Ahead”
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
Misinterpretation
I was thinking along the lines of execution, as in, " I dont’ care what’s going on – I’m going to do this!!"
I see the confusion.
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by Raul Villaronga on Jan 13, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
I kind of hope both Garrett and T.O. go
I’m not as high on Shanahan as I used to be though. I’m still hoping Jerry can drag chin face out of retirement. He is what this team needs.
Who is Chin face?
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
chin face
is overrated… the only reason the steelers continue to succeed is bc of there defense… and there defense is run by dick lebeau
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 13, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
And they cheap shotted Carson Palmer that one year.
And continue to be a cheap shot team.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 13, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
oh yeahh
bengals should have won the super bowl that year…
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 13, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Do you think those comments and/ or actions warrant Spencer being released or suspended ?
cuz that “Who cares” attitude sure seems to be running rampid over at Valley Ranch.
no and no
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
The one
that needs replacing is Jerry Jones. He’s a terrible GM. Period. Nothing else matters when the one buying the groceries won’t admit he doesn’t know a cherry from from salmon patty. Gil LeBreton from the Star-Telegram really spells it out well. I know, I know, Jerruh isn’t going any where. That’s fine. He’s the reason I’ve really lost interest in the Cowboys. They are a champagne franchise with a cheap beer GM. After 40 years of being a Cowboy fan I find myself following them just to see what he f*cks up next and really not caring.
by steelyeyedmissle on Jan 12, 2009 10:05 PM CST reply actions
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Last draft looks good at the moment but let's see how it looks 3 years from now
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
it will look even better
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
even a blind pig
finds an acorn from time to time. He was due a good draft simply based on mathematical chances.
by steelyeyedmissle on Jan 12, 2009 10:07 PM CST reply actions
-1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 12, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
He's had several good drafts the last 6 years.
Not all perfect, some better than others, but if you combine it with what he’s tried to do in FA then Jerry as the personnel man has done a pretty damn good job. He’s had some other problems, like the crap he pulled with MB3 this season, but other than that I think he’s done a fine job the last few years.
Actually, the scouting is better AND da King actually listens to them now...
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by silverblue5 on Jan 13, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
I foresee him having another excellent draft this year as well. only time will tell.
Jerry the Owner you can have some gripes with, understandably so with the recent coaching moves, or in present case, coaching non moves.. But it’s hard to question a GM that’s assembled a roster with some of the best players in the league. It’s coaches that make the players. It’s the players executing that keep the coaches around. The failures of this team lay squarely on the coaches, not the GM. Getting rid of players isn’t going to change anything. Getting rid of coaches works wonders. Should start with Stewart, Garrett, and Houck. A good GM would do so.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 12, 2009 10:16 PM CST reply actions
Failure of this team lay squarely on the coaches?
How many interceptions did Jason Garrett throw? How many times did Wade Phillips jump offsides? Its interesting to read these blogs and notice the excessive coddling of players, continuing a pervasive problem in our system that our failures and mishaps are always someone else’s fault. If the Cowboys do not make personnel changes, either by benching players who play poorly (witness the effect the benching of McNabb had on him) or by cutting players who just don’t get it, this team will regress in 2009 no matter who is the head coach. The worst thing that could happen to this team is to fire a bunch of coaches AND keep the same players. The message would be sent loud and clear to the players that they are not accountable.
It's funny how Tennessee lost in the same way Dallas did
with Collins throwing blindly off his back foot over the middle directly into coverage;
committing 12 penalties for 90 something yards;
Lendale White looking out of shape and not in the game, fumbling with 16 seconds left in the half;
Alge Crumpler coughing it up at the five;
missing field goals;
And the blame was immediately laid on the players, where it belonged.
In Dallas, something like that happens, and the hocus pocus theories come out.
Missed assignments are due to T.O.‘s Rasputin-like powers;
Romo’s poor throws are due to his girlfriend’s Jupiter-powered, gynocentric force field;
Missed blitzes are due to Wade Phillips’ refusal to scream, carry a whip and treat his players
like Roman slaves.
Strange, strange world.
Not really that surprising
The Cowboys have a larger following and probably a lot more people who basically live and die on every twist and turn (like a lot of us here).
There’s also the matter of how frequent the types of mistakes you mention cost the teams wins. Poor discipline, stupid turnovers, missed assignments etc are almost always part of Cowboys losses and sometimes even their wins. It’s pretty much been the MO of this team for years now. With the level of talent now on the roster, it gets a little difficult to take. The thing about the Titans loss this week is that that kind of play has been atypical. That’s the difference to me.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jan 13, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
yeah, the Cowboys are one of the few teams with a national following
along with the Raiders, Niners, Dolphins, maybe the Pats. I live in NJ and I see tons of people wearing Cowboys gear. I never see anyone wearing a Bengals t-shirt
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Man, ain't that the truth!
Thank you Raf for once again being a voice of reason. The whole idea of getting rid of everyone who got us to a 13-3 season seems incredible to me. Let’s get rid of T.O. (like somebody in the league is not going to sign him immediately) so that D.C.s don’t have to game plan for him. There’s a smart move.
No, Jason Garret is the problem. I guess that’s why several teams are trying to PROMOTE him to head coach instead of co-ordinator and all have worse records than Dallas.
No, it’s Brian Stewart the D.C. This despite the fact his defense lead the league in sacks (I remember when this was a problem) and he lost his best run stopping safety. (You are going to miss 100 tackles on any defense) But hey, let’s boil the guy in oil.
Here’s the deal. The Cowboys, while having a lot of talent, did not have a lot of depth at several positions and it hurt them. Offensive line, safety, inside linebacker etc. These are correctable situations that will be addressed in the draft and F.A. Obviously better play and a little more “want to” are essential for improvement. Just be thankful we’re not the Lions.
Poor discipline, stupid turnovers, missed assignments etc are almost always part of Cowboys losses and sometimes even their wins.* It’s pretty much been the MO of this team for years now.*
Ding, ding, ding!
We have a winner.
This HAS been the M.O. of this team for years, going back to the Parcells days.
The one constant is the players.
Which sends us right back to the corrupt DNA problem
The other constant is our Owner/GM. The reason we still have the same players making the same mistakes and/or causing the same turmoil is Jerry Jones. To cut or release one of his bonus babies would be an admission of failure on his part—I don’t think he is up to it. People can criticize JJT for stirring the pot about it being either Garrett or Owens, but not both, except that he is correct—I was making the same point on this blog a week ago. And Jerry is probably paralyzed because he doesn’t know what to do and is probably praying that someone hires Garrett so he doesn’t have to make the call. Which causes me to wonder—has Jerry every made a tough player cut? I am pretty sure that Parcells made the call on Emmitt Smith and Larry Allen.
There's one problem there
From ’02 through ’06, save for T.O. and an overrule on Demarcus Ware, EVERY personnel call belonged to Bill Parcells.
And I can give you a long list of overrules and stubborn free agent and draft moves he made in defiance of the scouts that would make you tear your hair out.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 13, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
On the "tough call" with Garrett
He cuts Garrett and Phillips, he eats about $10M in contracts.
He’s opening a new stadium next year. He’s leveraged up to the eyeballs.
A year ago he was going to get the biggest naming rights deal anywhere. Now, that market has vanished.
I’m sure he’s lost a ton of money in the market crash. Everybody has. Danny Snyder is one of the shrewdest people around and his organization just laid off 30 people last week because their ticket sales for ’09 are soft.
There are many, many sports teams for sale around the world and nobody is buying, because the financial markets have tanked.
We can call him “gutless” all we want. But who’s willing to pay him some hard dough to cover that “brave” move.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 13, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
I'm certainly not advocating any pity for Jerry
but this is real world money we’re talking about, not fantasy league money.
And while we’re on that subject, you notice that all the coaching candidates — ALL OF THEM — are coordinators looking for their first HC jobs or retreads like Jim Haslett.
You think the market has anything to do with the $8-9 M a year guys like Cowher, Shanahan and Holmgren sitting out this year? Look at the Rams. They made it clear up front they would not even consider a big name established coach because he would cost too much.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 13, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent Point
Too often we do get caught up in thinking this is fantasy football—all Jerry needs to do is sign Julius Peppers and Ray Lewis and our defense is fixed, etc. But we are in the midst of an extremely painful economic downturn. The very idea that Jones will eat dead money on Owen’s contract or fire Garrett or Wade Phillips is nonsense in this economic environment. The more I consider your point, the more persuaded I am that the Cowboys will go status quo in 2009.
agreed.
It goes back to contunity.. Rex Ryan, Labeau, Jimmy Johnson these guys have been doing for years, so there system is a part of the DNA of the team. We still have to much confusion, on who should be where..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
Great point
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
Its like spags said, "its an easy decision to make when it's not your money".
This just goes to show that JJ’s commiment to WP is serious, he is taking a risk and must really believe in WP to turn things around next year. JJ saw the benefits of WP putting his hands on the Def and to some extent the ST (Joe D is a WP pick). Now as fans we do not know if JJ and WP talked about the Off and if JG returns what WP needs from JG to make the off work the way he would like it or maybe WP may not feel the need to change anything other than have JJ get him more OL depth they can rely on.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Or,
he may be letting his red hot checkbook temper his anger and his temper.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 13, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Raf, do you feel that the two sides to WP handling on the offense
could have been a hesitance to tell JG anything because offense is not his thing, JG was being touted as his replacment regarless of how the season ended, or maybe he might have felt that if he kept his hands out of the offense he could not be blamed for it’s collapse because JG was running the show? I know it is a question that none of us can really answer but I just wanted to throw some ideas out there as to what WP was thinking as the year went by.
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Here's the problem I have with getting rid of Stewart.
It does NOTHING. He doesn’t call the plays anymore. This is Wade’s D. His scheme. Firing Stewart is nothing but a feel good move that accomplishes nothing in the end. But hey, if it makes you feel good…..
Or ...
if he’s not doing anything, why give him a paycheck?
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by Raul Villaronga on Jan 13, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Don't know that he's not doing ANYTHING
Just that he’s not the D-coordinator in anything but name. I just think that if someone has a problem with our D then the blame needs to be appropriately placed and that’s at Wade’s feet.
I actually envy Stewart
Before you all pelt me with verbal boulders, think about it…
He’s gettin’ paid more money than the average working man to pose as an assistant coach for America’s Team.
And he always has a great view of the game.
Man, I wish I had his gig right now.
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by silverblue5 on Jan 13, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
+1
It would be nice
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
Firing Stewart would show that there is aprice to be paid for incompetence
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
3 Reasons to get rid of Stewart now
1.) If it’s Wade’s scheme and Wade’s calling the plays..what exactly is Stewart doing? If he’s not fulfilling the duties of a DC, why….in this bleak economic time…waste more of Jerry’s money?
2) If we didn’t have BStew, and instead had a guy like a Dom Capers..would anyone agree that Capers could actually contribute some nuances that Stewart has not and most likely, will not?
3) If we keep BStew, then we allow a more competent person, like a Capers, to make their contributions to a competitor. Why not add to our side of the ledger, while subtracting from another team?
4) If most of us looking on from the TV screen, thinks BStew looks like a deer in the headlights, and if we from afar don’t respect him because it’s Wade’s D and Wade’s play calling….how can anyone on the team respect him? I don’t believe that they do.
I don’t have a personal axe to grind against the guy. I have to say, considering the points above, how can the Cowboys team expect to get better on defense unless that situation improves?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Well, I think the idea that he does nothing is overstated
I’m sure he has responsibilities. They just aren’t as the D-coordinator. As far as the money he’s being paid, what if he’s being paid according to what he actually does, instead of what his job title is?? Does that make it better?? For all we know whatever it is he’s doing, he’s doing it great and Wade doesn’t want to fire him for something that is Wade’s fault.
Also, Capers is in the mind of just the fans. Would I take Capers in a heartbeat over Stewart?? Absolutely!!! But I haven’t seen any evidence that Wade’s interested in Capers and that he would get rid of Stewart to bring him in. If the argument is just to get rid of Stewart because we want to bring in Capers then I’m on board. If it’s to get rid of Stewart because fans think he’s at fault for our defensive woes, then I’m indifferent. I prefer to place the blame for any defensive problems at the feet of the man responsible for them. Wade’s.
Is it an experience thing
with Capers? I mean the guy was 1-15 as D.C. on the 2007 Miami Dolphins and 6-10 in 2006 with Miami as Speical Assistant to Head Coach with Lou Saban.
Maybe it was his stellar record with Houston which was 4-12 in 02, 5-11 in 03, 7-9 in 04 and 2-14 in 05. That totals an 18-46 win loss record in 4 years. Capers winning percentage in two tries as head coach is 48-80 or .375 winning percentage including both Houston and Carolina. In Miami it was .28.
Brian Stewarts winning percentage over two seasons is 22-10 or .6875. So someone please explain to me this infatuation with Capers because I just don’t get it.
Its not really a fair comparison considering the teams the two worked for
And I think youre giving Stewart too much credit for this team’s success.
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Forget Capers..
Looking at my comment above, substitute another name of your choosing, for Capers. I used him because apparently he was considered earlier but nixed by BStew. My initial point was..if you accept that the position of DC is a viable, important position in it’s own right, and seperate from the HC position, our team is at a disadvantage with Stewart.
To further reply to Kameleon…I didn’t say he did nothing…I asked what does he do?
I mentioned his pay because in an earlier post, Raf mentioned Jerry’s money..it seemed a valid point. As HC, ultimately, the responsibility for the defense AND the offense AND the special teams falls at Wade’s feet. So with that defense of Stewart’s lack of contribution to the defenses performance, we should have kept Bruce Read since he and Stewart seemed equally inept at their positions. I just don’t buy it.
We need a HC, and for now, that’s Wade. We need an OC, and for now that’s Garret. We need a DC, and all we know for now is it is NOT BStew.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
The thing is that you have several coaches
in this league that call plays, either offensively or defensively. I don’t think that we do definitely need a guy called the DC ‘cause Wade’s going to be the real DC whether we want it or not.
I don’t think the Read/Stewart comparison is valid. Read was actually in charge of the entire special teams. You knew that he was the one running it and he sucked at it. It’s my contention that there wouldn’t have been much difference between how our D played if Stewart was some anonymous assistant or wasn’t even on the team. Point to something that he did, that we know he did, that was wrong ‘cause I know that Wade was running this thing. Just like I know that Garrett was running the offense and he was responsible for any problems there. He installed the offense, he designed it, and he called the plays. Stewart’s not even in the same boat.
Just one thing?
Stewart started out the season calling the plays….at some point, Wade relieved him of that duty and by most accounts, the D improved. Stewart did it wrong.
Your argument for Stewart is that we can’t really criticize him because he is a ‘stealth’ DC. He performs some stealthy duties that remain invisible and can’t be quantified or graded. It’s my contention that Wade wanted him to step up to the plate and call the plays, allowing Wade to be a full time HC, and Stewart failed. Wade had to shoulder Stewart’s load, as well as being Head Coach.
I’m not so sure that Read was completely in charge, he had to have a number of assistants help organize Special Teams during camp. He was allowed to take the full fall at years end.
If it makes you feel better to have Stewart on the payroll, to relay Wade’s calls into the D, fine. I’d still like to see us add a real DC who can make the calls himself, bring some nuance to Wade’s 3-4, have the background and gravitas to know when a D assistant is not correcting a problem and point out that it needs to be fixed, look forward into the draft and know what player out there will make an impact and lobby hard to get him, erase the white board when TV cameras come into the D coaches meeting, so NY Giants fans don’t see who our likely draft prospects are, and other such strengths that a real DC could bring to our team.
You might claim that Stewart does all of the above, and we just can’t see through his cloaking device. Garret isn’t a stealth OC, why have a stealth DC?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
O.K., I will forget Capers
although that is a little hard to do when you stated ….“than we allow a more competent person, like a Capers…..”. I guess I am just trying to figure out what objective criteria are you using when you are saying Stewart is not qualified? I am sure that Wade is not spending his time breaking down film, creating game plans, developing the oppositions tendencies, and the other backroom work that needs to be done. How do you KNOW that Stewart is not excellent in these areas?
I believe it is a mistake to believe that when Wade says he is calling the defenses that makes Stewart immediately unqualified. Wade always had a head set and could veto any call Stewart made. This is normal for any NFL team. It doesn’t appear that Stewart was unqualified last year so I am just trying to understand now why he is getting thrown under the bus?
than we allow a more competent person, like a Capers…..".
like a Capers, like a Spagnuolo, like a Dick LeBeau…as I said..insert your favorite example.
Since, in your opinion, Stewart is breaking down film, creating game plans, identifying opposition tendencies, et al (which is exactly what Kameleon knows Stewart isn’t doing) you’re confident that our D is in good hands?
I don’t KNOW that Stewart is or isn’t anything, I’m not there. I KNOW that no other teams are seeking out his expertise. Nor were they when he was in San Diego. Wade brought him over.
These are my opinions, stated with the observations that I made during the season. The case for keeping Stewart seems to be that..‘we don’t know for sure if he’s bad or not’…‘we don’t even know what his duties are’..
I don’t want unknowns and stealth. I want a DC that other teams covet. Do you think any other teams covet your choice for DC?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Who are these guys that other teams are coveting??
Where are they at?? Are they any different than Stewart?? Just guys waiting for a shot at a DC job or something?? I don’t want a guy in here to be the DC and to call the plays. When we heard that Stewart was calling the plays I was unhappy because I wanted Phillips to call them. Just because he’s the HC doesn’t mean that he can’t call plays too and that was his specialty. It just seems like you want change for the sake of change and are fixated on the job title Stewart has, instead of what his job might actually entail.
So how ‘bout Wade just pulls a Parcells and refuses to name a DC?? Just calls Stewart his “asst. head coach in charge of quality control, pass defense coordinator, and guy who wipes off the squeegee board when cameras are rolling”. That would remove the title that you don’t like and that means absolutely nothing to his situation. Then he would still go about doing the same job Wade has lined out for him and Wade can get down to his job: head coach/defensive coordinator.
Who are these guys?
I named 3 in the post above. You wouldn’t want to have a guy like Dick LeBeau or Spags as your DC? They are significantly different than Stewart, they are good. Well, you say, they aren’t available. But they are coveted by many teams, no?
You challenged me to name just one thing that Stewart did wrong. I did. A major thing.
Then you accuse me of wanting change for changes sake. Not accurate. I want change to make the team better. Why did Wade even have Stewart calling the plays to begin with? Was Stewart calling plays in ’07 too. Is that why the D played so poorly?
I don’t understand your loyalty to a guy who apparently doesn’t have a defined job. Why won’t you consider that bringing in someone else may in fact improve the defense?
The following statements are my opinion (to which I am entitled); I think Wade wanted to have someone who can take charge of the defense. Stewart failed. Wade had to pick up the pieces. Wade seems like a loyal guy, and may feel that he brought Stewart over from his job in SD and thrust him in a position that was over Stewart’s head. Wade may also feel that he has to cover for the guy and hope he improves. All of which is admirable for Wade as a person. But not necessarily in the best interest of the Cowboys.
You can have the last word.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
I'm not trying to challenge you to anything.
I’m simply saying that getting rid of Stewart for just that sake does nothing whatsoever for the team. If your point is that we get rid of Stewart so that we can bring in someone like Capers, then point taken. If you’re just wanting to get rid of him because of how he supposedly did as a DC then I reject that because I don’t think he was in charge of any of that. That’s my opinion and I’m entitled to it too.
Thanks for the last word.
What you don't
seem to understand is that when you got Wade Phillips, you got your “known defensive co-ordinator.” Parcells ran a 3-4 scheme and Wade runs a 3-4 scheme. You say Wade “brought him over.” So you believe Wade did this because he thought Stewart was an idiot?
Brian Stewart was not “my choice” for D.C. He was Wade’s. My problem with your analysis of Stewart’s performance is that it rests solely on the fact that Wade decided to call defensive signals this year. Go 13-3 and Stewart calls the signals, everything is O.K. Go 9-7 and fire Stewart?? Never mind the fact that the Cowboys lead the league in sack totals which was a sore spot for years. Stewart couldn’t possibly have had anything to do with that right?
Brian Stewart was not the reason the Cowboys went 9-7 and he was not the reason they went 13-3. However, he was the D.C. for a team that went 22-10 over the regular season for the last 2 years and got the league lead in sack totals. That’s not too bad for an incompetent D.C.
I understand more than you give me credit for..
We knew Wade was a 3-4 man and that was continuity. I don’t think Wade thought Stewart was in ‘idiot’ (your words), but I do think Wade has not been the best judge of assistants. ie: Stewart and Bruce Read. If Wade was the defacto HC/DC, then why did he bring Stewart over and promote him to the position of DC? Why did Wade entrust the play calling to Stewart, then have to take it away. Your argument has flaws. Please explain them.
I don’t give Stewart any credit for the sack totals. I credit Reggie Herring. I don’t have the confidence that Stewart could teach DeMarcus Ware anything to do with technique. Do you?
You want to give Stewart credit for 13-3? Fine. 2007 was a year that our defense was porous and our offense carried the team by outscoring everyone. That was some outstanding DC work by your guy, Stewart. Everyone last year complained about the defense, even you.
The offense stumbled this year, and with Stewart calling the plays again, the Defense was always seemed out of synch. Then Wade stepped in.
Defend Stewart all you want. I think he doesn’t bring much to the party, I’d like to see someone better.
You can have the last word.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Very simply
Wade brought Stewart over because he was one of the people who was available that knew Wade’s system. Wade obviously had confidence in the guy and felt he would be able to assist Wade in implementing his system.
You say you would like to see “someone better.” Does that mean better at knowing Wade’s system? Wade is asking Stewart to assist in implementing Wade’s philosophy and not a system from another “coaching tree.”
As for my complaints about the defense last year, if you recall, my complaint was based upon the Roy Williams vs. Jacques Reeves debate. I felt the defense would be able to perform better if they could play more press/man coverage and they couldn’t with Reeves on the corner. Others felt that Roy Williams was the major culprit. Actually, it was pretty good D.C. work because Stewart knew that Reeves was a cover 2 corner and would get killed in press/man coverage. Therefore, the Cowboys were forced to play more zone. This, of course, exposed Roy’s lack of ball skills and he slid further into the abyss. Even you have to agree the defense was able to be more aggressive w/o Reeves on the outside.That was my beef with the D.
You are entitled to your opinion about Stewart but I agree with Kam that letting him go really serves no useful purpose. The guy has been D.C. for two years and as I said before, he was not the reason they went 13-3 or 9-7. If you want to be a consistent winner than you are going to have some consistency and not start all over every year. The best teams have proven that.
I was commenting during that game
at how catastrophically similar that Tenn game was to so many Cowboy games. Marching up and down the field, dominating the total yards. But self-inflicted wound again and again and again. Penalties. Critical turnovers time after time.
It was painful to watch.
The problem is that
there has been more excessive coddling of the players by this coaching staff than there has ever been by posters on this blog. Part of the problem is how the coaches have handled these players.
Tony Dungy doesn't seem like a screamer..
but his teams generally performed well. How did he get the players to perform without being a hardass?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
um
peyton manning is god… you don’t f around when peyton manning is your qb
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 13, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Who doesn't mess around?
I presume you’re talking about other players, and if so, then you’ve hit on a key point. Leadership on the field vs on the sideline.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
I think that's the difference
The Colts had leadership in the lockerroom that we don’t. And on the sideline.
I remember watching some report on Bellichek’s success in New England and the question was asked about why he couldn’t do that before in Cleveland and the guy talking said that he didn’t have Brady on that team. That it was Bellichek who was the “genius” who devised the gameplans and it was Brady who made sure players were held accountable for executing them. He was the hardass on the team who would go and say something to a player. That’s what we need.
On this point..
we agree. We need players on this team who refuse to lose and refuse to let others around them give less than their best.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Well he has made the playoffs 10 straight years, and only 7 of them have been with Manning
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
weren't the other 3 with tb...
who had a fierce fierce defense? if i recall… the best in the league or top 3??
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 14, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
but its still a great acheivement
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 14, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
true...
he is (was) a great coach… big loss for not only the colts, but also the league…
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 14, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 14, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
Other Middle Linebacker???
Who would be a great candiate to play along Bradie?
Rookie, free agent, or within. Long shot here but, what about Ray Lewis, great leadership, could help out team. Comments:
Ray in his declining years,huh. He tore us up. I actuallyt believe he will hit the market.
If you have Scott ,Lewis and Suggs all reaching FA which two do you sign. Ray is 33, Suggs is 26 while scott is 28 ,the smart money is on Ray ray walking. He would bring the smarts ,leadership ,toughness and most importantly experience in the middle of a 3-4. Besides a quality backup QB this would be the only free agent move i’d make.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
let him test it..
Get an offer and then give him a high offer to show that they really want him in B-more.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
do you think they are gonna pay three linebackers,really?
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Ray is the Ravens franchise so he is not going anywhere
they will give him a 4 or 5 year deal and front load the heck out of it so in 2 or 3 years releasing him would be possible. Suggs is a stud OLB…enough said. Scott is very good, but if it comes down to Lewis or Scott…Scott is gone….I’m all for it because we need him. He has to be the top FA signing for us going into the offseason.
ray is old....
we need to stay young…
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 14, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
NT
What’s up with the signing of Junior Siavii? Didn’t they see enough in training camp and the preseason? I hope he can have an impact. His combination of height and weight are impressive 6’5 335lbs. You would think he could at least clog the middle on running plays.
by beautifultyrant on Jan 12, 2009 10:57 PM CST reply actions
hopefully he worked hard this off-season..
What a nice, cheap, surprise..
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He's a camp body
He did nothing impressive in camp.
What’s more. He didn’t play football this year.
How can you get better when you have no competition?
He wasn’t rehabbing an injury, he was unemployed.
I wonder if camp bodies
know they are camp bodies. Kind of like being a disposable diaper.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jan 13, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions
Our camp bodies
Are doing a good job as starters and key reserves all over the league. Maybe we need to take a closer look at some of these camp bodies.
by JimmyJohnson on Jan 13, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
This particular camp body
sat out the ’08 season. Nobody thought he was worth a spot.
What’s changed?
by Rafael Vela on Jan 13, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Just in general...
For example, Remi Ayodele was a pure camp body but he held down the NT spot for New Orleans toward the end of the season. He had never really played NFL football until then. He was probably better than Tank down the stretch. Lots of our camp fodder at WR and LB are playing at a high level for other teams. I’m just afraid we are too quick to classify players as superstars of camp bodies.
by JimmyJohnson on Jan 13, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, but I doubt that EITHER
Ayodele or Johnson is the answer.
That’s my point with Siavii. There’s no evidence that he’s suddenly going to play at at level beyond those two guys. He was running behind Ayodele in camp too. Siavii was the 4th NT.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 13, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
with nary an intention to re-sign Tank's Johnson...
… guess camp bodies are now at a premium.
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by silverblue5 on Jan 13, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe the Cowboys should script their first 25 plays.
I think that’s what the 49ers used to do, and it would help get the QB and offense into a rhythm, take pressure off of them, and often surprise the D, since the plays were already preset, not based on the situation. Then, your team can walk through that set of plays a few times during the week, cutting down on mistakes on those plays. It gives you a chance to see how the other team reacts to your various formations and situations, and to see what is and isn’t working. And they can establish that 3 runs to 4 passes mix while they’re at it.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 13, 2009 7:50 AM CST reply actions
I think they probably do script at least a their first ten plays to start the game
I read somewhere that almost every team does now. Although if youre going to script plays you should script a number not divisible by 5. Something like 23
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2009 7:56 AM CST up reply actions
Sure is a shame Garrett doesn't even have 25 plays in his play book.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 13, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
I heard Aikman say once
that his teams only had about 8 plays. Does anyone know about how accurate that is?
Norv certainly didn't do alot of motion
That’s one reason why Troy was frustrated with Gailey. But the 90’s boys didn’t need to disguise anything. The O-Line could push defenses around and (unlike TO) Irvin didn’t need to get a clean release. He brutalized defenders who tried to jam him at the line.
by JimmyJohnson on Jan 13, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
Probably
They probably had 8 or so base plays, but ran each out of several formations and motion.
Besides, back in the day, as has been mentioned on this blog, everyone knew what was coming – the 90s teams just out-executed their opponent. How many times did you see the Cowboys with a 1st and goal, saw Moose motion to the left and said to the TV, “Emmitt behind Erik Williams” …
Touchdown!
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by Raul Villaronga on Jan 13, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
I count four
Emmitt off tackle
Slant pass to Irvin
Bomb to Harper
Novacek over the middle
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
How about
Aikman play-action bootleg rollout to Emmitt
Swing pass to Emmitt in the flats
Moose pass
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by Raul Villaronga on Jan 13, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Garrett is overrated
and quit drinking the koolaid. he was a reach to become OC so fast and it proved out his playbook wasn’t all that. You can buy a bigger one for a ROMO type QB for less than what they are paying now. And YAWN at the inconsequential roster moves made.
I like koolaid ;-)
I think Garrett will be just fine. I don’t think anything has been proved yet about his future.
by Dave Halprin on Jan 13, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
He has some experience as a OC and appears to communicate with the players better
TO loves him some Sherman also……lol
Garrett
Q: Rex Ryan, Jim Haslett, Leslie Frazier, Steve Spagnuolo and Jason Garrett. Which name does not belong on this list?
A: Jason Garrett.
The name of the Dallas Cowboys’ embattled offensive coordinator sticks out like an unruly comb-over on a bald man.
All along, the names that Devaney was calling on made perfect sense. They all fit within his publicly stated description of “meat and potatoes” football guys and strong leaders of men. They all fit within his preferred profile of men he could plug into the job and expect immediate results.
And then Jason Garrett showed up.
And my first reaction was “Huhhhh???!!”
Ouch……..Sounds like Garrett is going to be here alot longer than people like if GM’s think of Garrett this way
That guy sounds like he has a personal problem with Garrett.
Did JG sleep with his wife or something? If TO being a bad locker room guy is a knock, then does is also apply to Andy Reid and Steve Mariucci?
And his simplistic offense was 13th in the league despite a ton of injuries. The Cowboys offense regressed 3 points a game, compared to 10 for the Patriots.
And he acts like the fact that other teams want to interview Garrett is because of something shady that Garrett or his agent is doing, then chastises him for it with no actual proof or even circumstantial evidence.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 13, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Well Bryan Burwell would know
He used to write for USA Today.
Now, he’s throwing stones for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 13, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Garret or TO......something has to give
Owens never respected Garrett, and it showed, and Garrett never was able to get his T.O. problem under control. And because of it, the Cowboys locker room became splintered and dysfunctional.
T.O. has to go
Perhaps Garrett as well if there is any truth to the comments by Romo after the Ravens game.
Anyone else see that Herring dismissed all talks about going to OU.
He said he was on vacation and when he came back he heard about what was going on; so unless he is pulling a nick saban he has not had an offer or talks with OU to this point.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
T.O and Garrett should go!
MOST everyone is we should be running the ball more next year. So what, have 2 overpriced WR’s that our going to complained. Jerry, wake the hell up! Do you want to win again before you are dead or do you think just making a ton of money is going to keep you alive. Time to make that change.
Romo really does suck. Jerry really needs to hire a GM. Fuck your new stadium Jerry.
by Captain Comeback on Jan 13, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions
-1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 13, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
This is an awesome article
check this out, it may not change anything about BSPN but it is good to see.
http://thebiglead.com/?p=10697#more-10697
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Nice.
I didn’t think too highly of the idea of the ombudsman before, mostly because I knew that she was just for show and not a true ombudsman, but I am always impressed when I read her articles.
Here’s her original article in it’s entirety: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=schreiber_leanne&id=3828530
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 13, 2009 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
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