Garrett Taking the Strangest "Second Interview" I've Ever Seen
by Rafael Vela on Jan 17, 2009 12:55 AM CST
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Add up these factoids, courtesy of The St. Louis Post Dispatch's Jim Thomas and Bill Coats and tell me if Jason Garrett is not on the verge of getting the Rams job:
Exhibit A:
[Billy] Devaney, the Rams' general manager, told the [St. Louis] Post-Dispatch on Thursday that "the interviews are done."
Exhibit B:
Devaney also told the Post-Dispatch that he'd already made his recommendation to owner Chip Rosenbloom on whom he wanted to hire as the next Rams head coach.
Exhibit C:
Garrett, the embattled offensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys, arrived in St. Louis early Friday evening with his wife Brill for what was described as a "second interview" with the Rams. (emphasis mine)
Exhibit D:
Garrett also arrived in town with a garment bag — the type used to carry a suit.
Let's see. The organization finished their interviews yesterday, and the GM has made his recommendation to the owner, and late today a candidate shows up with his wife to tour the facilities.
But the Rams are "not close" to making an offer?
What were Mr. and Mrs. Garrett doing then? See if you believe Billy Devaney:
"Jason didn't know much about St. Louis, and he wanted to look at the facility. We're not close to moving on Jason Garrett. I'm not even going to say he's the leading guy."
What organization invites a candidate and his wife to tour the facilities just for fun? None that I've ever seen. Jason Garrett could be playing a game of chicken with Jerry Jones, but why would the Cowboys make Wade Phillips fire his friend and protege Brian Stewart if they were were contemplating whacking him days later?
Jerry may be foolish, but he's not cruel. Doing that to Wade Phillips would be flat out sadistic.
It's looking more and more like Dallas will be hiring two new coordinators in the coming days.
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After reading your comments and news clips....
I must agree that it looks like JG is on his way out.
Who could the next OC and DC be?
by BishopWest on Jan 17, 2009 1:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
hopefully
Wade follows Stewart out the door and Jerry pursues Shanahan or Holmgren
by Beasticon on Jan 17, 2009 1:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent post
was looking forward to this day for awhile.
This would be a great time for Jerry to give ’ole Dom Capers and Shanahan a call.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 17, 2009 1:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Those are exactly the two I want
Shanny would most definitely open up the offense.
And Capers also employs an attacking style of 3-4 defense as Wade.
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by silverblue5 on Jan 17, 2009 1:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If JG does go that will be a big loss for this organisation
but it does seem like thats whats going to happen
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 1:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Raf does this point to the idea that JG was trying to get TO cut a
media driven story that just fit nicely with the reality of JG wanting to be a head coach. I feel that one does not lead to the other. The interesting part is if this happens WP should be able to pick his own OC and he will have a genuine clean slate next year to show JJ that he can do a better job. I am not saying that WP sticking around and getting to pick his OC will be the right move but it is a way for the coach to have a chance to run the team his way, for better or for worse.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1 WP getting a more seasoned OC will work wonders for this team.
JG’s players surely had no confidence in the plays being called, and have no respect for him at all.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 17, 2009 1:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
Gross exageration
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 2:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Raf do you feel the st louis media was against JG enought to where they would slant
their coverage of who the top candidates were in an attempt to influence the way the team made its decision? I know it sounds far fetched but there was alot of local media backlash about the idea of him becoming the next HC. Stories saying that he was not one of the main two guys that the team had favored.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh the local media there can't stand him
Bryan Burwell has the crowd all revved up. Look at the comments on the Post Dispatch’s site and you’ll see lots of idiots parroting his line — “No, he’s the one candidate who isn’t qualified.”
Like these guys do interviews or watch tape.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 17, 2009 1:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the msm media and local media will try to spin this as:
TO wins the battle to stay in dallas, JG was essentially let go by JJ.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
They probably will
“TO is a cancer, forces his OC out of Dallas”
Man I hate ESPN
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 1:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, regardless if it is factual that is the idea that will fill their internet boards and ratings
during the slow down and leading into next season. Next question, next channel, I will be on a strict diet of visiting this site for my facts on the boys.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if TO is a cancer...
1995 Super Bowl winners had Charles Haley as a cancer
1993 Super Bowl winners had Charles Haley as a cancer
1992 Super Bowl winners had Charles Haley as a cancer
1977 Super Bowl winners had Tom Henderson as a cancer
1971 Super Bowl winners had Duane Thomas as a cancer
We’ve always had a “cancer” when we won the Super Bowl
by BishopWest on Jan 17, 2009 1:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not exactly what I meant by my comment, it's the old saying you can't win for losing:
if dallas loses JG to another team because he genuinely wants to take his opportunity now. That will not change the fact that BSPN and the DMN will spin it (with an anonomous source no less) that TO forced JG out and try to say that he did the same to BP when he quit. You know old meeshawn will be there front and center to pour on the hate nice and thick with turder twidling his mustache laughing manaically. The media circus will be in full force doubling-down on the TO will definetly implode they way they have been hoping.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasnt saying TO is a cancer
just saying thats how ESPn will spin it
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 2:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Charles was crazy
but somehow not a cancer. Lots of guys just ignored him, and the media seemed to as well.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So who will be our OC next year?
The name everyone will say, is Martz. I want a more run-oriented OC with the 3 backs we have.
by mhuff13 on Jan 17, 2009 1:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Who is everyone? Martz is a poison for the running game and for TE's, that is a very bad fit for Dallas
he would be better suited for a team like Ari, who is more pass oriented (but that is not going to happen).
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you may want to wait a few days to make sure we still have the same head coach
before you start talking about coordinators
by Beasticon on Jan 17, 2009 1:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly makes you think we will have a different HC?
Like it or not, Wade is back next year.
by mhuff13 on Jan 17, 2009 1:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because Jerry said the staff will stay the same
and now we have no coordinators…
obviously things are changing and Jerry may see it as a time to make an inevitable HC change when so many good coaches are available.
by Beasticon on Jan 17, 2009 1:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then why would he hire a ST coach that WP wants?
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a ST coach with a good track record
it’s not like thats a deal breaker for any changes…
by Beasticon on Jan 17, 2009 1:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When Jerry said the staff will stay the same
He meant Wade…
by mhuff13 on Jan 17, 2009 1:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well when he was asked the question it was concerning the staff in general
“Look, can y’all not understand statements?” Jones said. “The coaching staff is in place. The coaching staff is in place. The building is here. You want to ask the question, what if it blows down?”
by Beasticon on Jan 17, 2009 1:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Raf also has a point in that JJ would not mess around with firing BS if he was going to pull
the trigger on WP.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we shall see
but if Garrett leaves I don’t see Wade being here.
Wade did not want Stewart gone, but Jerry pulled the trigger. Wade had even said that Stewart would remain the D Coordinator, so obviously things are changing.
by Beasticon on Jan 17, 2009 2:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But why would JJ bother with getting rid of someone WP wanted, maybe it was a
compromise between the both of them, WP had to give JJ Brian’s head in return for WP staying on. Are you telling me that JJ pulled the trigger and said to WP maybe you are next if JG leaves. I do not see the logic behind it unless JJ is trying to be mean to WP. To have your friend and protege fired then fire you anyway is cold, even for you Joker.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 2:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay then, change for the sake of change. I can understand that you want
to have WP out but JJ would not beat around the bush, he would also possible lose alot of coordinators due to the fact that any new Head coach would want to have his own staff.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 2:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Everything Burns, and in regards to the salary cap
“its not about money, its about sending a message”.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 2:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
JJ being unproffesional to a coach will only make getting quality head coaches
wary of coming to dallas if JJ gets a rep for pulling a move akin to Crazy Al, for example his firing of kiffin and then trying to implicate kiffin in a breach of contract just so he would not have to pay him. The example you are advocating is that JJ would have WP fire BS then come right back and fire WP, Raf is right that is cruel. That type of behavior will hurt JJ in the future and only make things worse.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 2:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Starting to look like a whole lot of this was orchestrated. I just don’t know who the ringleader is…Stephen? Jerry?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Jan 17, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Raf do you feel that JG will take houck since he was not one of WP guys?
I know there was talk here that Mike Solari was WP original choice and Houck was seen as a JG pick. You also mentioned Al Saunders as a possible OC, are either of these men options for coaching positions that dallas has to fill?
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about OCs
I mention Saunders because he worked with Solari and Wade wanted Solari as OL coach last year.
Saunders had some nasty KC offense Wade had to defense in S.D.
Solari is untouchable today. He’s the one offensive coach Jim Mora Jr. locked up off Holmgren’s last staff.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 17, 2009 1:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the link Raf
and lol at the comment section. Man, those Rams fans are not happy with this choice if it comes to fruition.
by Benthere on Jan 17, 2009 1:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
They have probably been reading this blog and seen the comments on how torn we are on
whether or not we should keep him. I doubt that any fan of another team would feel very confident about JG after reading some of the comments we put out on him.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think , if I were a Rams fan, I'd prefer Spagnuola
or however you spell it, from the Gints. My biggest fear is that JG suddenly becomes the next Vince Lombardi and we’re on here screaming about it a few years from now.
by Benthere on Jan 17, 2009 1:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he has real potential and it will be a shame if he goes
but the next Lombardi he is not
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 3:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Garrett will be fired by whoever hires him
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 17, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought i remembered reading recently about an OL coach that was unexpectly fired...from U of T maybe ??
He was HIGHLY regarded by former …..ahh…forget it…that was a strength and conditioning coach…
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 17, 2009 1:52 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have a really really bad feeling about this
After next season, we’ll all be bitching about another coach we let get away (like Payton and Sparano)
by mhuff13 on Jan 17, 2009 1:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If JG gets a HC job, you can't blame him for taking it.........
I wish we could keep WP as the DC and bring in a better HC if Jason leaves. But no way Wade will be demoted and stay on the same team.
by BishopWest on Jan 17, 2009 2:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
hmm, I guess maybe JG just doesn’t want to work for JJ anymore? I mean, he was basically the head-coach-in-waiting, right? And Wade basically had one more season to prove himself. Why couldn’t Garrett wait another season here?
There have been times (when I’ve been drunk) when I had tried to convince my buddies that Garrett intentionally make the necessary offensive adjustments to sabotage the team and get Wade canned. I don’t know, I don’t watch that much game film, but I’m still boggled by how few catches TO had (TO’s another subject).
Hell, if he were to leave, I’d feel betrayed in some ways.
by Turbo73 on Jan 17, 2009 4:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's Shanahan time!
No sense in bringing in a new OC, with a new system for a year, then running everybody off, and having the offense learn a new system again in 2010.
Tell those fat linemen of ours to back away from the buffet and take an extra spin class this offseason….it’s zone blocking time bi***es!
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 17, 2009 6:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Here's why I don't think it's Shanahan
His top two assistants in Denver were Rick Dennison and Jeremy Bates.
The Broncos gave all their assistants permission to seek other jobs but made it clear they
wanted Dennison and Bates to stay, regardless of who took over. Dennison had just
rebuilt their splendid young o-line and Bates was the QB coach, so that would give Cutler
continuity.
With McDaniels taking over, you would think Bates would go, since McDaniel was QB coach
at N.E. the last two years. And Bates got an interview with the Raiders.
If Dallas were contemplating a Shanahan move, wouldn’t they be pursuing one or both of
these guys? Hudson Houck doesn’t run a zone-blocking scheme.
Dennison just announced yesterday that he’s staying in Denver.
If Shanahan were waiting just off stage, the Cowboys would be pursuing one or both of
these guys. They’re not.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 17, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Raf for injecting some relevant info to this media craze involving all things
cowboys. On the Glazer subject, he tends to be the first to break news but he had no idea that JG was going to St. Louis or that chucky was going to get canned. He and Mike were both a little too flippant about dallas wanting WP out without pointing out how he knows this other than he know their mind or personality.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My money is on..
Wade HC/ Capers DC/ Sherman OC. This makes sense on many levels:
-The 3-4 schemes/ideas of Wade/Capers on the same staff could be special.
-Capers is a capable HC if JJ decides to can Wade mid-season
-Capers can stay on as DC if Shanahan is HC in 2010
-Anyone other than Sherman/Wilson as OC in 2009 would mean new offense in 2009 and potentially 2010 as well. No way any of us want that.
Raf…you’re the man…I’d love to hear what you think….Thanks.
by fivetwos on Jan 17, 2009 7:15 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
JJ doesnt can coaches midseason
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if
Jerry was hoping by firin Stewart Sum Of Bum would quit?
.After Elway retired Denver under Shanahan has been to the playoffs only 4 times going 1-4 in the post season. And the AFC west is not exactly the NFC East. You do not get to play the Raiders and the Chiefs 4 times a year.
by 082288 on Jan 17, 2009 7:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My prediction ....
if the Ravens lose tomorrow, Rex Ryan gets offered the job. If he declines, or the Ravens win tomorrow, Garrett gets the job and the Boys get Capers and Saunders as DC and OC.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 17, 2009 8:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rex will be offered the Jets job
or atleast that is what I have read.
by rocj55 on Jan 17, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's why
I think Garrett’s gone.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 17, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the cowboys' relationships are starting to come apart
there’s the wade and brian love affair thats not broken
the jerry jones and carrot love is unraveling
marty b and brother carrot could unravel as well if he leaves with head carrot to st. louis
only one left is t.o. and ed werder
and tony and jessica
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Jan 17, 2009 9:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
thats broken*
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Jan 17, 2009 9:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DC & OC
I bet we feel the DC position from in house coaches. My money is on Todd Grantham since he has coached the 3-4 as a DC before. I would assume that Ray Sherman would be the OC even though I would like for Jerry to take a look at David Lee & Chris Palmer,
by tyler2 on Jan 17, 2009 9:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
SHANAHAN - According to Glazer
Yesterday, Mike Francessa of WFAN in New York interviewed Jay Glazer of NFL – FOX.
Glazer contends that Phillips will become the Dallas DC and Shanahan the HC. Hard to believe that Wade would really do it – but he is arguing that the process is going to happen regardless of Garrett being hired in St. Louis.
by Lobsterman on Jan 17, 2009 9:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I just don't buy it
That Wade would take a demotion to DC for a guy that he was fired for, what, 15 years ago as well?
by mhuff13 on Jan 17, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just heard a podcast of this radio interview, it was a casual reference something that someone could
say without any facts over the radio and not worry if it is wrong. Jay also said that he felt that spags and fraizer were above JG, this is of course before the news that JG was heading to St Louis but he was obviously basing his knowledge on the info from the local media. So what info is he and mike basing their contention on that WP will become the Def coord? They talked about it for ten seconds, that is not a serious declaration, just another well it could happen JJT type statement, throw it against the wall and see if it sticks. Today’s media has so many outlets and coverage that you are bound to hear several different scenarios in regards to one subject.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I did not think that they were going to come back to the subject
and they did talk about it more but since when has Jay Glazer known the minds of JJ and SJ? I find it interesting that he said the TO cut talk has been going on for about two weeks. The next couple of weeks will be very interesting, positions have to be filled. The TO issue will not really show anything of substance until the boys get closer to June. I think JJ will want to see what TO does and how he handles himself during OTA’s and mini camps.
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Glazer is the only reporter that ever gets any thing right. He is usually dead on and tends to actuallyt report the
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Jan 17, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that is weird...
maybe ashton kucher is going to meet Garrett and his wife at the facility …..
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on Jan 17, 2009 9:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
see ya Garrett.....
The guy is OVERRATED! We need a OC that knows how to run a offense. One who can adapt on the fly….That’s not Garrett…
by Boyzfan94 on Jan 17, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone tell me how Marvin Lewis
is still the HC at Cincy? I figured he’d be out. He would make an excellent DC for someone.
by rocj55 on Jan 17, 2009 10:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
why? His defenses at Cincy were absolutely horrible
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 17, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eveyones D in Cincy was horrible
he started the run on great D’s in Baltimore, coached LB’s for the Steelers
by rocj55 on Jan 17, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love his work int he draft too!
Excellent “character” guys who added value on and off the field.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Jan 17, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do not know, he looks like he had much control over his team, could they trust him to
manage the defense?
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by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I never said the Cowboys D
just someone’s
by rocj55 on Jan 17, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because the Brown family has been historically frugal
They don’t like just firing coaches and buying out their contract while spending money on a multi-year deal contract for a new hire.
Apparently, they’re going to wait until Marvin Lewis’ contract expires before they do anything.
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by silverblue5 on Jan 17, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wade's lack of ego is his trademark
He will take the DC job. He was head man before and moved on to a DC position, not with the same team….. but even so he has been on the up and down before.
Also he is getting older and as you age the prospect of moving becomes less and less attractive. I would bet his salary stays the same, same money with less headaches = Wade the DC in Dallas, IMO.
I am not happy if it turns out Garrett is gone. I had dreams of a young former player taking over as head coach and staying 15 + years. Look at the teams with that sort of continuity, their franchises are well postioned for playoffs annually, and well regarded in the public eye.
Also he will be a good HC for years and the haters can track their BS comments for the next decade with regret. I am sure Jerry regrets letting Sparano (coach of the year type)
go to Miami.
I do like Shanahan’s fire, he can sit down disruptive players and man up to the task of running this soap opera as long as Jerry lets him, and agrees to remove his lips from a certain WR’s member long enough to build some team cohesion. No team has ever won a SB and said they rode their WR all season and through the playoffs. A really good WR can make a difference but you do not build a winning team around one: Detroit!
by Travlr on Jan 17, 2009 10:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree about Garrett
I was hoping he could be a long term solution at HC and we could try to get some continuity. Hiring one of the older succesful coaches that have been around a long time pobably would be a 3 to 5 year scenario. It looks like the Bucs are going to promote a young assistant with potential and turn him loose. I thnk that’s what we should have done with Garrett.
by Blammo on Jan 17, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We still can
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wade Wilson
For all the discussion about Houck, Campo et al underachieving, I would like to see little Wade go. I see no evidence of maturation or progress in Romo, who is a rare talent.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2009 10:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1 Wade Wilson should be gone, hopefully Carrot will take all of our troubles to St Louis..
take Houck while he’s at it.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 17, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
yessss
Carrot is starting to stick
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Jan 17, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And another . . .
10/13/2006 The Associated Press
Terrell Owens is done talking to his position coach.
T.O. said on his radio show Friday that his relationship with Dallas Cowboys receivers coach Todd Haley was ruined by a blowup this week. It began when Owens missed the start of Wednesday’s practice because of an upset stomach, and Haley berated him for being late. Owens held his tongue then, but they later argued during a meeting.
The story getting out seems to bother Owens the most because Haley vowed since training camp that all internal matters would stay behind closed doors. Owens spoke with reporters for 45 minutes Wednesday without ever mentioning any problems with Haley. But the incident was reported by several media outlets Friday before Owens gave his side of the story later on his weekly show.
From now on, T.O. said, “there will be nothing else, no other dialogue” between him and Haley.
by NCCowboy on Jan 17, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand, I though you disliked TO
but this stoty seems to make him out as the good guy
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cuz he is a good guy.
misunderstood, and misrepresented by the media.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 19, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol..Good name for him, Seeing that he's spent his career with his head in the dirt while supposedly growing into a budding veggie.
just like a carrot, his time spent coaching is like being boiled and losing all it’s nutrients.
He play calls like a veggie..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 19, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For Rnumba1 who thinks everyone but TO is to blame for the problems on offense . . .
a trip down memory lane that doesn’t even require trips to SF or Philadelphia:
11/3/2006 IRVING, Texas (AP) — Terrell Owens downplayed a report Friday that he falls asleep in team meetings.
“As long as I don’t sleep on Sunday,” the Dallas Cowboys receiver said as he left the locker room at the team’s practice facility. As is customary on Friday, he did not conduct interviews.
The receiver said in Friday’s editions of The Dallas Morning News that he informed the Cowboys about a sleeping problem before signing with them.
“It’s nothing new for me to fall asleep in a meeting,” he said.
Owens said the problem dates to the first stop of his career in San Francisco, where he said receivers coach George Stewart thought he was staying up too late.
“When I did get to bed early, I would still get to meetings and fall asleep, and it’s the same thing here,” Owens said.
Owens said he hasn’t been staying out late.
He acknowledged that his sleeping habit irks Cowboys passing game coordinator Todd Haley, who had a run-in with Owens at practice earlier this season.
“At some point, give me a little vet credit,” Owens said. “But I understand (Haley) wants me to be a professional and be a standup guy for the younger guys on the team.”
by NCCowboy on Jan 17, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Rice on Terrell Owens
"I wish that he would just spend a little bit more time just running routes just a little bit more crisp, you know what I’m saying? "
by NCCowboy on Jan 17, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know the title of the article is "Garrett Taking The Strangest "second Interveiw" Ive Ever Seen"
Not come here and post random quotes about TO
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
First of all, where does that entail a problem with TO ?? Where does that justify releasing our best WR weapon, and taking a 9.66 million cap hit ?
You stalking me or something ? Just who do you think you are ?
As Aussie points out in his comment, How do you personally single me out about some rubish 2 yearold news articles about TO’s sleep disorder have anything to do with this particular posting on Garrett ?
As a man that suffers from severe sleep apnea myself, and is relagated to wearing a mask for the rest of my life just to breath while i’m asleep, I take great offense to the your idiotic attempt to call me out in some manner by posting an article depicting TO as something of slacker, poor teammate, or perceived problem because of his inability to get proper sleep, therefor hinding his ability to stay awake at times. By all accounts he certainly has a legit sleep disorder, and should be dealt with in a more compassionate manner.
There are over 100,000 deaths per year attributed to sleep apnea in this country, and millions live undiagnosed of the potentially fatal ailment.
I refuse to even comment on TO anymore, and your deliberate attempt to fuel arguement from me or others will go unrecognized, and doesn’t even warrant a verbal assault on my behalf..
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 19, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Raf, here is the link to the WFAN Jay Glazer interview
do you think that any of this stuff is true?
http://www.wfan.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=3344916
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Jan 17, 2009 11:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like the quote about the Jones Boys
When asked how they gracefully get Garrett out of the way, move Wade to DC so they can get Shanahan.
“They don’t care”
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Jan 17, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it that everyone knows on here you cant buy a championship in FA
getting all the superstar players you can fit under the cap but everyone thinks you can put together a bunch of superstar coaches and win. I think it would be the same mess Washington had with players. I also dont think I like the idea of GMs hiring coordinators for the head coach. These guys have to spend 14+ hours days with one another and be on the same page. can Jerry really pick the best guys for Wade. Please dont give me the Brian Stewart references, all you know is he cant call a game, you have no idea if he can coach.
by squidlo97 on Jan 17, 2009 11:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Top named head coaches.
Keep your panties on ladies, this is the NFL,(remember Glanville and the Not For Long) There will be superstar coaches every year available. We dont have to freak out and get someone before he is gone. There will be plenty every year.
Wade needs his Owner/GM step out of the locker room. Thats the coaches place and I think Jerry gets involve in the wrong places at times.
by squidlo97 on Jan 17, 2009 11:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
RAF / Grizz
Can we look at implementing the “move the chains” / “Drop Back” feature the BSR had?
On days like yesterday with a lot of stories breaking, (or after a 2 week vacation, trying to catch up on the stories in sequence) it would be nice to move between stories without having to go to the main page and take the long way between posts.
by Travlr on Jan 17, 2009 11:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
WILD SH-T" COULD STILL BE COMING IN DALLAS
by tyler2 on Jan 17, 2009 11:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Informative Article
“some "wild sh-t" is and has been occurring. "
"We’re not quite sure what the additional "wild sh-t" might be”
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 17, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did somebody say west coast offense?
Well Gruden is out in Tampa, What are the chances Raf that he might take an O.C. position with the Cowboys? We definitely have the personnel to make his system work and if we go down the line we have an upgrade at just about every position on the offensive side of the ball. Gruden had a problem with Me-shwan but then gain Me-shwan is no Terrell who thrives in the west coast offense.
Semper Fi.
by UnNecessary Roughness on Jan 17, 2009 12:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
20-20 Hindsight
It’s easy to look backwards….
I’m not hoping that Carrott leaves, but if he is..I’m thinking it would have better for all if he had left last year. We weren’t happy with his vanilla offenses, he could have been a head coach for a playoff team, we could perhaps have an OC that plans to stay for a while….ahh, what could have been!
Brian Stewart- I know there are readers on here that think he’s got talent, but I didn’t see any evidence. If we could have ended the BS experiment earlier … maybe our D would have showed up earlier. Maybe we could have tapped someone who could actually innovate and make some calls that would win us a game.
A post script on BS- it will be interesting to see where he lands..an indication of what his peers in the league think of his ability
Bruce Read- Man. Our special teams were bad in ‘07. I don’t remember any improvement in ’08. I we can just get our ST to play good enough to get us into the middle of the pack, that should be worth 1 win per year.
I’m optomistic. When Wade and company first came in, we went 13-3. I’m hoping a new crew will bring back our mojo in ’09
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jan 17, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Stewart
He will likely be a position coach.
On the DMN blog there was a class message from him. I wish him well, but I am glad he is gone.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 17, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
STL blogs take
The Rams really like Garrett and wanted to give him the chance to see the facilities while he considered the offer. That’s the most obvious inference here. Word is that Devaney has made his recommendation to Rams owner Chip Rosenbloom et al, so this could be step two in convincing him to take it.
Contract issues with Spagnuolo and/or Frazier. What about that earlier report that Spagnuolo wanted control over personnel? Are the Rams at a sticking point over that issue or another one? If that’s the case, is this a leverage tactic?
Other jobs The Chiefs haven’t made a decision on their head coach, but speculation is that they’ll likely fire Herm Edwards. Are Rams candidates holding out for that job? There’s also the Raiders, but for Spagnuolo and Frazier, being a coordinator for a functional team – and able to get a head coaching job next season – trumps head coaching for Al Davis, right?
Garrett’s leveraging the Cowboys, not for money, but to send T.O. packing, a rumored possibility. Also, remember it wasn’t all that long ago that Garrett was considered Wade Phillips replacement, as the ’Boys struggled this season. Things got real dysfunctional in Dallas this season, a rodeo of chaos, with players calling out each other and the coaches. And Jerry Jones is, well, nuts.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 17, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LINK
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2009/1/17/726545/garrett-visits-rams-coachi
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 17, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
new OC and OL coach
Al Saunders and Mike Solari= top 5 running attack
by beautifultyrant on Jan 17, 2009 12:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Solari's not available
He’s the one offensive assistant the Seahawks kept.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 17, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DCFanatic
I don’t think Garrett is getting the job, lol.
Gets weirder and weirder for the Cowboys.
Go Cowboys!
by DCFanatic on Jan 18, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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