Does Discipline Even Matter Any More in Big D?
by silverblue5 on Jan 20, 2009 9:58 AM CST
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BSPN is gonna have a field day with this DMN story by Calvin Watkins.
But that's not nearly as important as what it's gonna take to get the Cowboys turned around in 2009.
According to multiple sources, the lack of discipline in 2008 starts from owner Jerry Jones all the way down to the players.
The lowering of fines. The bad practice habits. The increased number of tardies.
WTF?
Before anyone comments on how overrated a heavy-handed disciplinarian is as a Head Coach in the NFL, let me ask you this?
If you were practically a billionaire who owned an NFL team, wouldn't you expect an element of discipline and accountability from your front office, coaches, and players? Think about it, you're investing ungodly sums of cash in them, shouldn't you DEMAND that everyone abides by a strict set of standards with the end goal being a Super Bowl title?
It's more than singling out individuals like Wade Phillips, Terrell Owens, Tony Romo, or Jason Garrett.
It's most importantly about a low-standard culture, a team-wide epidemic that created an apparently lax environment over there in Valley Ranch this past season.
What happened to the owner supporting the head coach and the head coach demanding accountability and the team leaders setting a bar of excellence to teammates and the players striving to meet team goals?
Not playing favorites here.
The entire eff'n team seems to have a piss-poor attitude about what it takes to be a championship caliber franchise. And what happened to working through personal issues for the betterment of the team and the working towards the goal of winning it all.
Hell, you're not gonna get along with everybody when you have a large group of people spending lots of time together.
That's just a fact of life.
So get together in secret. Work through the issues. And move forward. If you can't resolve the problems. Endure it and do what it takes to help meet team goals.
Then in the offseason, try to get released or traded -- if the problem still isn't solved.
But don't air that sh_t to eff'n reporters and stupidly disrupt team chemistry.
I keep thinking about what Jimmy J said about our 2008 team, and the way the season turned out, he's most definitely "dead on."
Yes, they were indeed nothing but a "collection of toys."
Talent yes, but team-first mentality no. Marketability yes. Discipline/accountability no.
Will things improve in 2009, only God knows.
Wade says he's gonna try to change next year.
But according to the Watkins article, he may have tried to this past season, but didn't get upper management support. He allegedly tried to push for bigger fines for the sake of accountability. And here's what one of those sources stated:
Phillips may not be completely to blame for the smaller fines. A source said Phillips asked Jones to raise the fine total but was rebuffed by the owner.
Jones acknowledged some players are late for meetings. However, he said sometimes a player is late because he has to meet his media responsibilities or had a legitimate excuse.
Yes, the stupid-a__ source shouldn't be leaking this stuff out.
However, there are multiple sources who have reported the constant breaking of rules. And that, to me, signals a red flag that it's a team wide culture that needs to change... especially if they want to achieve the goal of winning their sixth Super Bowl title.
It's on every single member of the Dallas Cowboys.
I don't know, maybe I'm going overboard. But hey, I'm passionate about my favorite NFL team, and I want them to fully utilize that talented potential all the way to an SB win!!!
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You beat me to it!
Yeah ESPN is already having fun with it, at least Colin Cowherd is. Big time.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by shadow1480 on Jan 20, 2009 10:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
and
the reason why the piss poor attitude is there is because of Jerry Jones. When he starts undermining his coach, it shows how much respect Wade Phillips has. Basically, it make Wade Phillips look like a substitute teacher. Remember how you felt when you knew you had a sub that day?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by shadow1480 on Jan 20, 2009 10:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jerry doesn't realize
and mostly because of his own ego that the roles he plays on this team are in conflict with each other. a president and owner wants marketability, so he allows players to be late for meetings and other team functions (that’s how he justifies it, as prior commitments), and as a GM you need to have discpline and order. I don’t show up for meetings late or anytime I want at work. meetings are set for a purpose not just for fun. so the GM loses in this case. so in order to justify it to himself he sets a $100 fine. then he feels better that the president got what he wanted, the GM got what he wanted and the whole thing turns into a joke.
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 20, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
You saw Wade just “oh shucks” it when someone (was it Spencer?) missed a injury treatment session on Hard Knocks.
You can blame Jerry for a lot, but I doubt this is one of those things.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Jan 20, 2009 10:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would love
to agree, but if this is true
Phillips may not be completely to blame for the smaller fines. A source said Phillips asked Jones to raise the fine total but was rebuffed by the owner.
then it shows how much Jones had to do with it.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by shadow1480 on Jan 20, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's jerry being in colflict with himself
he has a $100 fine to satisfy the GM, but allows tardiness so the president and team owner can market the team.
so Jerry satisfied himself by putting in a rule to say we have discipline yet he made it into a Joke.
what would your boss say if you contineously showed up late for meetings? would you feel secure in your job then?
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 20, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Goes back to my 2 year point
You think JJ says no to a Parcells-type HC in regards to increasing fines? Wade has never required anyone to respect him. He’s the organizational ragdoll
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 10:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well
Two Dallas coaches have had the right to hire and fire assistants.
Everyone else has been a headcoach-light.
It’s tough to set rules when it’s clear that you are the owners puppet.
It’s tougher still when the owner wants to pal around w/players.
by 325424 on Jan 20, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget about Romo!
His lack of discipline, care free attitude and his poor practice habits. They show up on game day. He’s not a leader and these are bad attributes for a franchise quarterback.
by bryangene on Jan 20, 2009 10:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
it's
up to the coach to get him to practice hard. Camp Cupcake!!
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by shadow1480 on Jan 20, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea this really messes up Terry's argument for the hardest worker on the team...
According to five sources, several offensive players lost respect for Garrett for his failure to corral quarterback Tony Romo in practice. Romo, sources said, often forced throws in practice and often did not treat practice work consistently.
The quarterback’s practice habits were so bad, sources said, that they affected the way he played in games and could have factored into the offense’s problems.
by AikmanNailedMySis on Jan 20, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe these so called unnamed sources
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 20, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not believe them
Romo is undisciplined in games – it makes sense that he would be so in practice as well.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 20, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It makes no sense... thats why
Players don’t go from being a dedicated gym rat for the first 5 years of their career to being a lazy player. Doesn’t happen.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 20, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
people never change. And money has never changed anyone either.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 20, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
anyone who actually thinks money has changed Romo is completely clueless
The dude still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 20, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know that?
Calling people clueless lacks civility and lowers the level of discussion here. I think you can do better.
How do you know Romo gets excited if he gets a new T shirt? Are you part of his inner circle, or are you speculating?
I bet he wouldn’t be escorting Mrs. Lachey around town if he was still a third stringer making league minimum, nor would he be in the Tahoe celebrity hit and giggle.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 20, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
in another post you told me Terry said “The dude still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud.” and I thought it was a pretty good joke. But here it is and all I can say is wow
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 21, 2009 12:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
quote from his buddy Witten earlier this year
He would know, bub
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 21, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bub
What the hell does that mean?
Witten is Romo’s pal, and he has his own agenda.
Don’t call me names and I expect a civil and appropriate apology.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 21, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bub
I think he was saying Bub like Wolverine says. It’s like saying buddy, pal….that sorta thing. Chill out.
by futurecoach on Jan 22, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and here i thought it was short for "Bubba" :P
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by silverblue5 on Jan 22, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he has his own agenda?
what the hell does that mean? That he fabricates stories about Romo, get a clue dude.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 22, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is Romo's pal
He has a bias.
I give no weight to some throwaway comment from a friend when Romo’s performance is contrary to that comment.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 22, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Witten isn't a liar
he’s simply not going to fabricate a story which isn’t true.
And your comment that his performance is contrary to that comment makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 22, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It does make sense
Witten can say that money hasn’t changed Romo.
The fact that he worked hard to get where he is and then stopped improving once he signed for big money and became a b grade celebrity leade me to conclude that the big contract did change him, regardless of what anyone says.
I’m not saying Witten is lying, but his statement is of no weight or relevance to me because he has Romo’s back, and the whole t shirt thing is irrelevant. Not throwing interceptions and improving is highly relevant, and that is where the issues are.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 22, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
your conclusion is incorrect
That fact that he stopped improving is from many factors, none of which has anything to do with his contract.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 22, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
You can’t improve under a HC and GM with no focus and some say an OC who had to go through some growing pains this past year
by cow_fanatic on Jan 22, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Call it an opinion
It is an opinion, and you can say you agree or not, but you don’t know why he has stopped improving any more than I do.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 22, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I think his growth has been stunted by exterior shortcomings but that is probably because I hate Wade to his fat core. It’s your opinion that it’s internal Romo. I believe I can prove my side easier though
by cow_fanatic on Jan 22, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as in most cases
it is probably more than one thing. Nothing happens in a vaccuum. I do think Romo has become somewhat complacent however.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 22, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know Witten personally?
have you hooked him up to a polygraph before.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 22, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
but what he says about Romo buying shirts is entirely irrelevant, and it is silly to draw conclusions about his work habits from a throwaway comment made by a good friend.
Even if he is truthful, his statement is of no import in the big picture.
Not sure if you are busting me or Terry.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 22, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure he was busting Terry
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 22, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not true
it proves that money isn’t what drives Romo
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 23, 2009 8:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You accept that as proof
That is so weak. If money doesn’t drive Romo, why does he do endorsements?
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 23, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why does Manning
and every other star qb do endorsements?
Money doesn’t drive sta qbs like Manning and Romo, competition does.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 23, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I assume
the Manning is partially driven by money, as most people are. Nothing wrong with that. However, you speak in absolutes as if money is of no relevance to Romo.
By the way, I think any grown man who gets excited about a new t shirt is a flake and/or a sissy.
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 23, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thence your hate for Romo
I think its pretty cool and down to earth.
And of course money has some relevance, but you are making it sound like thats all Romo cares about, and nothing could be farther from the truth.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 23, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Terry
IF YOU'RE LOOKIN FOR ME...I'M AT THE SCRIP CLUB WITH PACMAN......AND WE'RE BEING REBELLION!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 23, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah but when it's about TO you do believe them Terry
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
by gee-roj on Jan 23, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no, thats not true either
my opinion of T.O. is based strictly from what I’ve seen him do or heard him say.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 23, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Romo
practice like this under Parcells? Did you hear about these bad practice habits when he was here?
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope not!
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by shadow1480 on Jan 20, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And it's up to Romo
to treat practice seriously and work on his flaws. Aikman didn’t go to seed under Switzer.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 20, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
but Switzer was a head caretaker, not a head coach. He oversaw one of the greatest teams ever assembled. Alot of coaches could have won a SB with that team, Jerry was right, just not two like Barry should have won.
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aikman was a perfectionist...
and didn’t like Switzer’s lax attitude toward discipline. I guarantee you Aikman would not have liked the way Wade handles things. This is one area where I wish Romo would pattern himself after Troy. Don’t accept this “Cupcake” culture, demand more from himself and the players around him.
Garrett needs to get a clue!
by BulletBob on Jan 21, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 21, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How did Romo
make the practice squad under Parcells with poor practice habits?
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly, he didn't, these allegations make no sense whatsoever
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 20, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The allegations
may be correct, just pointed in the wrong direction. Point to the HC
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a simple equation
Not drafted + Rookie + Small School + Coach that’ll cut you in heartbeat if you don’t practice well = good practice habits
Sudden fame + Success + Celebrity GF + Coach that won’t do anything if you don’t practice well = poor practice habits
Romo couldn’t practice poorly under Parcells.
by Starred4Life on Jan 20, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
and he has to take some responsiblity himself. Just because you have a substitute teacher doesn’t mean you have to spend the whole class clowning around.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 20, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
again exactly
people change with the circumstances. To be successful in sports and in life, most of us have to be kept on edge to some degree. Most of us need external motivation. So its very conceivable that when Tony no longer had that external motivation, he relaxed. Those of you who have worked very hard at something, know the temptation to relax once you become successful.
Now, not everyone is like that. Some people are motivated by the desire simply to stay on top. Troy Aikman is an example of this type. Once he tasted a SB victory, he couldn’t stand his team not competing for it. Tony is clearly not of that type. He needs external motivation.
by dave33 on Jan 20, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that doesn't make sense
Either a player likes to practice and work or he doesn’t..doesn’t matter who the coach is.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 20, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
plenty of guys lose fire.
mike tyson used to be a gym rat, he LOVED to train. he woke in the am and ran to the gym, then as he got older he got sick of it all.
plenty of guys lose their love of practice.
of course romo USED to love to practice, he was on the practice squad, he never played. practice was his only chance to play. now that he can play every sunday the meaning of practice changes.
by 325424 on Jan 20, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
get a clue 325424
Romo was never on the practice squad, why don’t you just admit you’re a hater already for crying out loud.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 20, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
i misspoke on the practice squab.
he spent 3 years without taking an nfl snap.
over the course of those three years he dressed out less than half the time.
he wasn’t a practice squad player, he was one of the 7 guys never dresses.
i like romo, i just think he has gone astray. i blame jerry. he needs a coach to tear into him. he is un touchable by wade and it hurts his development. parcells would demand more from him and wouldn’t let him ease up in practice.
by 325424 on Jan 20, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't mean
he hasn’t become complacent now that he has climbed the mountain
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 20, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What mountain has he climbed?
He hasn’t won a playoff game, he is reminded constantly of his failures in December. Do disciplinarian HCs allow complacency from anyone on the team they are coaching?
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he got paid
and became a celebrity
Do self disciplined players continue to make costly errors that hurt the team, or do they make themselves accountable and sort their business out?
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 20, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He was accountable
after the Seahawks playoff loss and went in to a depressed hibernation. Are you saying money changed that or is it the current climate at the Ranch that allows for the lack of accountability? Like the Hillbilly Clown says, the players aren’t the ones making mistakes. If they make mistakes, they are on him. Does that sound like the players are held accoutable?
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am saying
that Romo shouldn’t need a disciplinarian coach to drive him. He is making mistakes and needs to hold himself accountable. Just because the coaches are soft doesn’t mean he needs to respond in kind.
I do think the money and fame have changed him for the worse.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 20, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I’m not saying it’s ok not to hold yourself accoutable, I am saying it’s human nature to allow someone else to be accountable for you as the enabling head coach does.
But one self-disciplined player on a 53-man squad with no discipline doesn’t sound like a battle too many are going to win, just ask Witten.
Why is there so many players freely talking about in-house subjects? They can’t do it by themselves and aren’t getting any help fro the HC. Example for argument’s sake. Jason Witten is the snitch about TO complaining about the Witten/Romo relationship. Why would Witten snitch? Pure frustration these things aren’t being handled in-house. THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bryangene
His lack of discipline, care free attitude and his poor practice habits. You just described the HC
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I was describing Romo
but I guess it works for WP as well.
by bryangene on Jan 20, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
if there is one word I can describe Romo is…“Aloof”. extremely talented but very aloof and doesn’t seem to understand the seriousness of the things he does. that shows lack of leadership
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 20, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also Bobby Carpenter
going on radio and throwing one of his teammates under the bus. Why are they even interviewing him? At any rate, this team has some major make up problems and are playing with a divided locker room. WE NEED LEADERS.
by bryangene on Jan 20, 2009 10:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I as listening to Cowherd this morning, and he was talking about how bad this franchise is now …. then play Carpenter clips to prove his point. Really? A backup LB is your clip?
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by shadow1480 on Jan 20, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, I HATE BSPN...
…but why give them any ammo?
If discipline and accountability were instituted and adhered to, the negative attention wouldn’t be this prevalent.
I mean, the mediots will always take pot shots at America’s Team. But it wouldn’t be as bad.
Remember, “loose lips sink ships,” but if the “no talking to the media” policy were still in place, would we have this type of bad press problem?
And if our owner and head coach ran a consistently demanding regime requiring attention to detail, team unity, and overall discipline, what can the Terders of da world allegedly report?
Yes, the mediots make crap up.
But let’s do our part not to give ’em anything to write about.
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by silverblue5 on Jan 20, 2009 11:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Illustration I made previously
JJ talking about the injury status of MBIII to the media and then stating he was taken out of context. Ok, if they are going to take you out of context, shut up!
by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
co-sign
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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by silverblue5 on Jan 20, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys
will go nowhere and continually dissapoint without a culture change
by icouldusesomebaseball on Jan 20, 2009 11:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
+10000000000
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by shadow1480 on Jan 20, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree more
this is an exact mirror image of what happened in 1994 and after. That team as I have said before had the leadership in place to win it all, by sheer determination and desire of Aikman, Emmitt, Novaceck, Irvin. despite Switzer and some of the other clowns who started to get intot he locker, these guys kept it together and kept the team focused.
this team lacks that type of leadership. they haven’t won anything so they don’t know how. they lack leadership at the highest level and in less than two years after parcells….we are jokes of the NFL.
I wouldn’t be surprised for us to go 7-9 this season and the team implode by the end of the season, because the walls are down. the players are talking, acting up, showing no restraint, etc. all the way to the coaches.
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 20, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
10-4
“Before anyone comments on how overrated a heavy-handed disciplinarian is as a Head Coach in the NFL,…”
I’ve said it a hundred times: Look at the list of HCs that have been to the Super Bowl. 70+% of them are disciplinarians. You could argue that there are more, but 70% is a pretty fair number that just about everyone would agree on.
To me, that list serves as very strong indicator for the kind of coach it takes to be successful at the NFL level.
Talk about ‘different eras’ and ’today’s players’ all you’d like, but good coaches demand and earn the respect of a group of men—those qualities transcend things like eras and “players of today”—IMO.
by Starred4Life on Jan 20, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
co-sign
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by silverblue5 on Jan 20, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think it is as much about being a disciplinarian as much as it is about having the player's respect
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 21, 2009 12:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its not about being a discplinarioan
its about leadership. all of those coaches have been leaders. plaeyrs looked up to them. they also didn’t have to battle the GM, President and the owner in getting things done.
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 20, 2009 1:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 21, 2009 12:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry needs a real GM
if he were a GM, and not an owner as well, he would have been fired years ago!
by bryangene on Jan 20, 2009 2:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
don't let the 6 game playoff losing streak
and no NFC championship game appearances in 13 years fool you.
Jerry is a great GM.
by 325424 on Jan 20, 2009 3:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
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