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Senior Bowl: Options Emerging at Pick 51

The Cowboys will have to wait a while before making a pick in April's draft, barring a trade up.  Their first pick at present is the 51st overall.

The glut of talented junior entrees means that several seniors originally rated at the bottom of round one and the top of round two are now viewed as mid-2nd rounders, which puts them within Dallas' reach.  Maximizing options is key, because at that spot, you can't fall in love with a single player.  The odds are too high that he'll be snatched up right in front of you.  (Think back to '07, when Dallas liked USC WR Steve Smith as a 2nd round option.  The Cowboys picked 53rd and saw the Giants select Smith with the 51st pick.  The Cowboys considered CB Eric Wright, but eventually traded out of the round.)

I'm watching three players in particular -- Western Michigan FS Louis Delmas, Oklahoma OT Phil Loadholt and Missouri DT Evander Hood.

I have yet to see a review of Delmas but Hood got good ink from both Scott Wright and the National Football Post's Wes Bunting. Hood isn't a blob in the Jamal Williams mold.  He's a 298 lb. high-motor guy who could be a good NT partner for Jay Ratliff in Dallas' one-gap 3-4.  Wright was also complementary of Loadholt, who will probably play RT in the pros.

I'd love to add Cal's C/G Alex Mack to the short list, but he's a good bet to be one of the first interior offensive linemen off the board, somewhere in the 30-40 range.

The bad news is that too many more great practices could lift some of these guys a bit higher in the overall pecking order.  Still, the more options, the better.

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My only concern with Loadholt is that he cannot handle a speed rusher unless he learns how to do that in the pros.

by DallasSooner on Jan 20, 2009 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed...

Orakpo kinda tortured the dude.

But then again Orakpo is one of the quicker de’s in college football.

by AirforceBat on Jan 20, 2009 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he'll play LT in college. If Loadholt was a sure thing LT

he would be a sure bet 1st rounder with his size.

I like him as a RT, where he can use his run blocking skills.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 21, 2009 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Loadholt has the name and size you look for

He’d be a tremendous start to developing Oline depth and future starters

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

They don't

get any slower in the pro’s. The fastest guy in college is just a little faster than an average pro.

When did I become a Cowboy fan? When my mom told me I was.

by GunsUp on Jan 21, 2009 6:16 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."

by aussie_cowboy on Jan 25, 2009 3:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Loadholt is a road grader

and would be good on the right side.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 20, 2009 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

Duke

Would rather have Duke Robinson, but he won’t last that long in the draft. He plays with an attitude.

by DallasSooner on Jan 20, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree Loadholt would make a good RT, but Columbo just resigned and isn't going anywhere soon...

so why have a quality depth player riding the pine for 3 years.

I love Hood, but may be too small to take the NT position…..DE is another story.

Delmas should be there at 51, but we’ll see how he pans out for the rest of the Senior Bowl week, and scouting combines before I get sold on this guy that nobody really knows about.

Alex Mack would be a no brainer if available, as he can swing all three interior OL positions.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 21, 2009 6:38 AM CST up reply actions  

we really have never had a true NT

all our NTs are pretty much big DE. there really does not seem to be any awesome NT in this draft, especially with Brace looking lethargic according to wright. so hood may be a good option.

by Becho on Jan 21, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Dallas should continue this experiment, redefining the NT position in a 3-4

it gives Dallas an advantage, no other team has a NT like Ratliff, especially in a 3-4. Centers are notoriously the weakest blockers on an Oline, and Ratliff is taking advantage of that.

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Ratliff Is Good

Ratliff looks like the real deal, but who is going to back him up if he goes down? Tank is not going to be around after his antics on the sidelines.

by DallasSooner on Jan 21, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree Aust........We do not need to prescribe to the norm. But IF we can't get BJ Raji....

You think 3-4 NT, you think big, strong, and stout guys,,,Someone in the 6’3" 325lbs range that command double teams because of their bull rushing power, and difficulty to move them. But in Wade Phillips 3-4, being a one gap scheme, You need a NT that is not only strong, stout, and hard to move, but he also needs to be quick and agile enough to shoot and fill a gap, or disrupt the blocking assignment of the linemen to the second layer. That being said, I have no problem at all leaving Ratliff there at NT, as he plays the position at a pro bowl level. But I do believe we need depth there, or someone that can eventually man that spot to utilize Rat’s pass rush abilities outside at DE. So how bout if we were to draft a guy just like Ratliff ? This way we have versatility in that either or can man the NT, depending on effectiveness with the match up and opposing lineups, or simply for a revolving reps, and giving one another a blow once in awhile. Plus they both can be used in the interior during the nickle 4 man lines, similiar to what Tank was supposed to bring to the table. There are two DT’s that fit the Ratliff mold that certainly would help here, either at DE or eventually NT…

Ziggy Hood of Missouri & Peria Jerry of Aurburn, unfortunately I think, along with Raji, I think all three will be gone by the time our pick comes along.

 Or we look into the going rate for RFA’s Gabe Watson of Arizona & Brandon McKinney of Baltimore. Both are huge 6’4" 330lbs range, Both are young, and both may not get resigned, or given a large tender…and both would come fairly cheap, and can man the NT in obvious rushing downs.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 21, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

but I’m talking about players Dallas can realistically get at 51 or maybe moving up half a dozen spots.

I’ll be very surprised if Robinson is still around at pick 40.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 20, 2009 6:55 PM CST reply actions  

what about that Center from Arkansas

I’m all about getting quality depth along the Oline, with an emphasis this year on the middle. What you said about the C from Ark was that he’s the fastest, and perhaps the best puller if he lined up at guard

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah its January 20th and people are talking about something that is three months away. Man I love football. With all that being said I doubt we stay at 51. BTW I haven’t seen a NFL draft order but I have seen us with pick 51 or 52 does anybody know which it is for sure.

by jack dein on Jan 20, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions  

Can predict wants/needs prior to free agency

Delmas looks like a good player at a need position, but what happens if Jerry decides that Thong and Hamlin are his guys, or he inks Oshiomohgho Atogwe (just like the way his name rolls of the tongue) away from the Lambs?

I also agree with don’t fall in love with a single player in that what’s the pecking order for safeties. William Moore looks like the second coming of Roy Williams so Jerry won’t get a sniff in round 2 but who’s the best after that? Is it Rashad Johnson, Patrick Chung, Mike Hamlin, Courtney Greene, Derek Pegues or even Louis Delmas?

Did Myron Rolle say he would play or take that Rhodes Scholar deal?

by birdness on Jan 20, 2009 7:06 PM CST reply actions  

The game

isn’t nailing down wants/needs in January. It’s guessing who might be available at 51 regardless of FA. Make adjustment to who think will be available at 51 as FA rolls throughin future posts

by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

My point is that its nearly impossible to predict who might be available when we pick. You still have the Senior Bowl, free agency, and the Combine. I still doubt we sign anyone big in free agency and I also doubt that we draft someone at pick 51 that comes in and becomes an instant starter. I have no problem drafting a safety but Williams will be back along with Hamlin and everyone else who made a start there this year. Unless someone unexpected falls to us its unlikely we get a starter at 51.

by jack dein on Jan 20, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I will suprised if we have the 51st pick when it rolls around.

"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"

by Wmillion on Jan 20, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Since we have early picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds plus our mid 2nd round pick I think that we could move up to the front of the 2nd and get another pick along with it.

by jack dein on Jan 20, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I like your thinking.

"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"

by Wmillion on Jan 20, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Up or down, Dallas will likely move.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Jan 21, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Myron Rolle, Rashad Johnson, Patrick Chung, Mike Hamlin, Courtney Greene, Derek Pegues and Louis Delmas will all be drafted, and most will make teams. Two or three will probably start next year.

Emmanual Cook (Jr. South Carolina) will be in that mix too.

by birdness on Jan 20, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Rashad Johnson is another guy I like but I think he goes in the early 2nd

safeties who played for Nick Saban have been pretty good bets. They play pro schemes in college and have shorter learning curves. Johnson’s profile reads like a poor man’s Laron Landry, in that he’s very mature and football smart.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 21, 2009 1:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Rashad Johnson

will probably be drafted before Delmas.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 21, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Jerry

Was willing to move up last year to draft a perceived need, I think he moves up in the 2nd to get a safety high on the Cowboys board.

"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"

by Wmillion on Jan 21, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

If he wants to move up for a safety

I wouldn’t mind it being Johnson.

by joey7289 on Jan 21, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

A good ball hawk type guy, reads the field great and was a good tackler in college.

by joey7289 on Jan 21, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Myron Rolle is planning on attending Oxford and will not play next season....BUT

It would be a great idea to draft him in the 7th round this year and just wait out the year…..great value pick.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 21, 2009 6:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I think this would be a good strategy.

It certainly worked for Staubach and the USAF A-10 pilot, Chad Hennings. I actually remember seeing this guy in the post office at RAF Bentwaters; he barely fit through the door and I can only imagine the shoehorning required to get him into the cockpit.

by GalTex on Jan 21, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

He didn't declare

Therefore we can’t draft him.

by joey7289 on Jan 21, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

It's Not Predicting Who Will Be There

It’s rating the players value with a relative position in the draft. So when the time comes you can determine a value pick.

by staubachfan on Jan 21, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Rolle is taking a year off for the Rhodes scholar deal

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by silverblue5 on Jan 20, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

My take is

you almost have to draft your SS at 51 due to the high costs of FA safeties lately

by cow_fanatic on Jan 20, 2009 7:13 PM CST reply actions  

Dallas needs to draft a good FS

SS seem a little more like a dime a dozen. Players like Ed Reed though play the Pass and the run

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

After that Steeler game

Ed didn’t look to good in the run, or at tackling

by joey7289 on Jan 21, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

And Dallas needs depth there

Safety is becoming like OL. You can’t keep throwing money at it year after year. Sooner or later you have to develop young talent there.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 20, 2009 7:14 PM CST reply actions  

+1

I couldn’t agree more.. Grab 2 like we did with Jenkins and Scandrick.

"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"

by Wmillion on Jan 20, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Spend Wisely

It’s great to develop young talent. Then contracts expire and cost fortunes to resign. Picking up an affordable second tier player, coming off that first contract, can land a quality player at a reasonable price. Anybody remember the teams of Hamlin’s initial deal? Are Kos or Columbo over paid?

Never, ever sign that third free agent contract – too expensive and the player always falls apart before the contract expires.

by birdness on Jan 20, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Hate to say it but

the Cowboys have failed at both spots. Drafting Pat Watkins and Justin Beriault failed. I know those aren’t high pick but safeties aren’t generally picked that high. If they were fast they would be corners in college. Safeties are just hard to draft. I’m not saying you should pay a lot for one, but safeties are a hit or miss deal. For every Sean Taylor, Ed Reed, and Landry, there are Roy Williams, Sean Jones, and Adam Archuleta.
The OL draftees are too numerous to comprehend right now.

""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson

by cmr3 on Jan 20, 2009 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

You are very right. Sometimes even safeties that seem to be good fall apart like Williams and Archuleta. I wouldn’t call Watkins a failure yet he has been okay as a starter and is a good special teams player. I had forgotten about Beriault until now. This year is strange because there is usually one or two safeties that you can say are going to be good this year you can’t. William Moore is rated at first but he reminds me to much of Roy Williams. Patrick Chung could be good if he falls to us. I personally don’t think that we should draft a safety this early in the draft.

by jack dein on Jan 20, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree...The safeties that will be available to us at 51, do not have the value of a top 64 player

There will be higher rated OL, DL, LB, QB when that pick comes rolling along.

Most of the safeties mentioned so far will be available when our 3rd rounder comes up.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 21, 2009 6:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Read some favorable stuff on Mack and how strong he is...

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by silverblue5 on Jan 20, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions  

I wouldn't mind drafting 2 D-linemen

Really need to replace the inconsistencies known as Canty and Spears. Is Spears under contract for next year?

by hiafex on Jan 20, 2009 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

They Start for a Reason

There’s nobody behind them. Raf is dead on with Evander Hood at 51.

by birdness on Jan 20, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, Hood would make for a good 3-4 DE

To be honest, I think he goes long before 51. possibly even late first rounder.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 21, 2009 6:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Spears

wow. what a blah. words can’t describe his career with the team. I heard his name twice a season. He wasn’t Shante Carver but he wasn’t Tony Tolbert. Maybe Ekuban-like.
Peace, Marcus. Enjoy wandering the rest of your career.

""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson

by cmr3 on Jan 20, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

DE’s in the 3-4 really aren’t supposed to be big stat producers. They are just supposed to occupy blocks so that the linebackers can make plays.

by jack dein on Jan 20, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks, Bill

your point? I never said anything about stats

""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson

by cmr3 on Jan 21, 2009 5:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd point out that Ratliff makes plays

Our D lines players up in one on one match ups across the line. Dware wins those a lot, and Ratliff wins enough to go to the probowl.

Guys who hardly ever win their one on one match ups:
Canty, Spears

Still I wouldn’t let those players go, I’d get them working on a single pass rushing move instead of a repertoire, maybe like a rip move over and over. In a good year I think these DEs should post 6 sacks – an outstanding year would be 8 like Ratliff.

Guys to compare their careers to are Ty Warren and Trevor Price

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind that either

Although i would keep Spears if I can.

by joey7289 on Jan 21, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Two words...

…Sean McDermott

"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams

by Jim Vance on Jan 20, 2009 8:02 PM CST reply actions  

Sean Smith out of Utah is going to be a beast at the FS position, awesome size and speed

by Zak on Jan 20, 2009 8:13 PM CST reply actions  

btw always draft a player with predator dreads, they seem to be better at football

by Zak on Jan 20, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

I only saw him in that Bama game. I hope he’s an under the radar guy that slips for us like Sandrick.

by birdness on Jan 20, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

nah, he’s going to be there AT 51 and probably taken before the end of the 2nd round

by Zak on Jan 20, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Utah is on the scouting map

Eric Weddle was a safety there (he started for SD as a rookie, pretty much) and a high second round pick, making this guy his heir apparent

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

How often do college safeties get moved to CB in the NFL

I heard this was going to happen to Micheal Griffin at Tennesse and also that player the raiders drafted #8. But they never do. A ball hawking safety is very valuable

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

It's 9:19pm CST

and the Eagles still suck.

""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson

by cmr3 on Jan 20, 2009 9:19 PM CST reply actions  

If we go for Ray Lewis

we must get a HUGE NT. Ray is the first to admit that he is no good without a big space-eating NT in front of him (a la Siragusa and Ngata).

I’m not saying that we are interested in Lewis… or even that we should be as a player. I really like what he brings to the lockerroom but he may be a liability on the field.

by JimmyJohnson on Jan 20, 2009 9:36 PM CST reply actions  

It kind of does....

Of course he’ll be doubled, but its really more about hiding your linebackers so they can come in and make plays, AND if the nose can get a solid push up the middle it would help your OLB’s.

by AirforceBat on Jan 21, 2009 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I really wish these rumors would go away

If Jerry wants Ray Lewis’s attitude imprinted on this team, offer him the head coaching spot.

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Where the Hood at?

I watched Hood fairly closely today during a viewing of the Senior Bowl practice, since he’s a guy I was interested in. Got overpowered at times by bigger lineman, but he’s insanely quick. With some coaching (and some time bulking up),

Personally, I think he pans out more as a 4-3 lineman … but he could be a guy we use to rush the QB on passing downs.

…Oh, and B.J. Raji makes me absolutely drool. I’d be tempted to trade a 2nd and 4th this year with a 2nd next year to trade up into the late first to grab this guy. 385 lbs., and quick off the line? Holy Hell in a handbasket. He could be exactly what we need at NT, and Ratliff could move back to DE.

by no1cowboysfan on Jan 20, 2009 11:29 PM CST reply actions  

Raji is 330.. not 385. That would be ridiculous. He is a hair over 6'1

And he’ll prolly go in the top half of the first round, so even if we had our first rounder I’m not sure if we could get him.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 20, 2009 11:51 PM CST up reply actions  

You=right, me=dumb

I was thinking of Herman Johnson from LSU (another guy I’ve been looking at). Not even the right position. Don’t know how I confused those two… I do like Johnson though. I’m thinking he could be the next Larry Allen (in terms of raw strength, not talent).

Still, Raji at 334 (his Senior Bowl weight) is insanely quick. And Scott Wright has him at #24 right now … but that could easily shoot up if he continues impressing at the Senior Bowl.

by no1cowboysfan on Jan 20, 2009 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I could see Raji going to Denver at #12

If they’re going to a 3-4, word is they’d be tempted to take their cornerstone NT while they have a chance.

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by Conjunction on Jan 21, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I know but they are rare

Although I think Larry Allen was around 6’3

by quincyyyyy on Jan 21, 2009 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Just let him work on his feet.

If he gets the foot work down he’ll be under stoppable, but with that said the question for him is T, or G. If he wants to play G, that foot work becomes even more important.

by joey7289 on Jan 21, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

He has a chance to slip to the early 20's, and if that was the case.

I would be all over the idea to trade up and get him. He is one worth the draft picks…

while i’m writing, LSU’s Herman Johnson OG should/could be be available at 51….a monster of a man.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 21, 2009 7:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Read Herman Johnson's reports from yesterday

People were oohing and aahing over his size, and trying to project a guy like him at guard.

Then they started practicing and he’s looking slow and saying he plans on losing 20 lbs.
before camp and scouts are asking — correctly — why he didn’t bother to lose it before
the Senior Bowl.

That guy screams George Hegamin to me. I would be disappointed if Dallas drafts that type of lineman.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 21, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I LOVE him

Then again I usually like guys from LSU, always well coached, and tough SOBs

by joey7289 on Jan 21, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

don't get me wrong Raf, I'm just mentioning OG's that will probably be there at 51..

I am not a fan of Herm Johnson, for the very same reasons you mentioned. He has poor work ethic, is very slow, and plays too tall…..IF he slip to round 3-4, he might take interest, cuz he go from a Hegamin to a Gogan in 3-4 years.

by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 21, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

His feet need work

Draft him, let him sit and learn, the one thing with him is his size, you can’t coach size, you can coach everything else.

by joey7289 on Jan 22, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Louis Delmas

But I think we should be looking for SS’s. I really like Notre Dame’s David Bruton.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 20, 2009 11:56 PM CST reply actions  

Hamlin could easily move to SS

In my humble opinion. He was more of a ball-buster than a ball-hawk in SEA, anyhow.

…Or he could stay at FS. I think as long as we take the best player available at either S spot, we should be fine.

by no1cowboysfan on Jan 21, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I want two safeties with range

You draft a pure SS IMO and you run the risk of a poor man’s Thong. A big hitter who has a limited shelf life once he loses that first step.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 21, 2009 1:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes but...

you are not going to find a real good SS with good range in the second round, otherwise he would be a first rounder.

Bruton is a physical player with a great motor and great intangibles. I think he would be a good pick in the third round, maybe second.

Furthermore I get the feeling Delmas might be out of our range.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 21, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

According to Senior Bowl reports

Delmas might be moving up in the second round

http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2009practice2.php

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jan 21, 2009 4:04 AM CST up reply actions  

All I can think of is, "Tell me again why we gave up TWO good picks for another headcase??"

What a waste Roy Williams is going to be.
Good Lord, we could be lookin at the #20 pick right now.
Geez.

by Realist Larry on Jan 21, 2009 12:28 AM CST reply actions  

And get Marcus Spears

Come back a year from now then tell me we wasted our picks, until then you are just overreacting.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 21, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I would only be upset

If Roy never reaches his potential, and Duke Robinson makes it to #20 and goes on to be Larry Allen JR.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jan 21, 2009 3:58 AM CST up reply actions  

and you would have not gotten a WR of William's quality at pick #20 either..

i think the dude deserves a pass already…….Have you never seen him play in Detroit before ?

by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 21, 2009 7:14 AM CST up reply actions  

A reminder..

..for those who weren’t reading the BSR last pre-draft. We were all talking about the need for another WR (no Roy E deal in sight at that point) there was also a clamor for another running back (Julius Jones was on his way out) and the debate was Felix of no Felix, Jonathan Stewart, or others. We also had a real need for a CB as well and all three positions were being debated hot and heavy. We were also debating whether we should trade up in the first to get that other Arkansas running back….what’s his name?

Anyway, with all that debate on CB, WR and RB…Raf came out out of the blue with the prediction for Martellus Bennet!?!?! Who?

We had Witten, Curtis and Fasano, why would we possibly want to add a 4th TE? Well, you know the story.

"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams

by Jim Vance on Jan 21, 2009 7:01 AM CST reply actions  

I don't think that was such a bold prediction

there were reports that he came in for private workouts before the draft and that our scouts really liked him.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 21, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

"It's a bad time to be a Cowboy's fan, because there's no hope..."

Jean Jacques Taylor just said that on the Dan Patrick show. What a PUTZ

by Boundforbeach on Jan 21, 2009 10:19 AM CST reply actions  

It's kind of a douche baggy statement

but there is some truth to it. Unless the culture of the Cowboys changes, he may just be right.

by quincyyyyy on Jan 21, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

unfortunately he is wrong

there is hope and thats why we’re still here.

If we knew the inside story maybe we’d of given up though

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

A 9-7 Arizona team just made the Super Bowl

A 1-15 team from ’07 just went 11-5 this year.

And there’s no hope in the NFL?

What
 
a

Knob.

by Rafael Vela on Jan 21, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

+1 Raf...I can't stand that guy...Today's article he gives his vote for Zimmer as the new DC

Saying his canidate is better than JJ or Wade could come up with….azz clown

Should a local news reporter be giving himself a vote ?? Like his opinion means squat !!!!!!

He does nothing besides criticize the team and explain what he would do if he was in charge.

Is that really journalism ??

by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 21, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

What are your thoughts on S Stephen Hodge from TCU?

He was a stout at TCU, and led the nation in sacks by a DB in 2007. He’s got decent size (6’/215), and clocks around a 4.5-4.6 forty time. He is great at creating tackles for loss, and is above average in coverage. If you saw the poinsetta bowl you saw his potential for big plays in big games, sealing the victory with a 4th quarter interception to add to his 11 tackles, 3 TFL, and a sack.

I think he would be great fit for the cowboys who need some fire returned to the secondary since RW1 seems to have lost his knack for finding the ball and lighting up opposing team’s ball carrier. Hodge was tied for the team lead with 81 tackles on one of the nation’s top ranked defenses.

"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer

by CowboyHornedFrogs on Jan 21, 2009 10:34 AM CST reply actions  

tackles for a loss are misleading for safeties

Its pretty rare these days for me to notice the elite safeties blitzing regularly, like they were doing in 2002,3. Palamalo obviously still does, but the biggest plays these guys make is INTs. I’d like to see abnormally high INT numbers out of a college safety, something that makes you think the guy has a knack for dissecting passing games and catching balls

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

agrees, but with differences

Everyone wants to see INTs, including me. However, INTs will come with competent coverage skills, smart defensive schemes, and fortune/luck. Very few safeties i can think of actually “create” INTs out of pure skill — Ed Reed comes to mind. Think Steve Atwater and John Lynch, both pro bowl safeties and neither were INT machines.

On first appearance, Stephen Hodge definitely fits the mold of an “in-the-box” saftey and off-the-edge blitzer. However he is deceptively quick and athletic in pass coverage. He is also a very good special teams player, and we could use a guy on special teams with a “knack” for finding the ball carrier in the open field.

Overall he may be looked over by a lot of teams b/c he is coming out of the 4-2-5 scheme from Gary Patterson, but that scheme gave him a lot experience covering TEs and underneath routes from slot recievers. I think he would be a great fit for the cowboys, cause we saw how great our current safeties are at stopping the run once the break through the LBs.

"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer

by CowboyHornedFrogs on Jan 21, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Chase Daniels is way better than the 11th QB in this draft

I’m intrigued at QB by Josh Freeman but if Chase is really looking like a midround pick he’d be a very good back up/ developmental player.

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 11:20 AM CST reply actions  

Daniel Is Mediocre At Best

I don’t think Chase Daniel is tall enough. Maybe someone can convert him to safety or something. Just not sold on the dude as an NFL QB and he gets frustrated easily.

by DallasSooner on Jan 21, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

As I look at the DEs in the draft

there simply aren’t any heavy ones. I’m thinking Canty is a pretty high priority – we aren’t going to be able to replace him conveniently.

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 11:28 AM CST reply actions  

Look at the DTs

3-4 Lineman can be be converted it’s hard to find a DE like the Rat willing to move inside.

by birdness on Jan 21, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I suspect Rodney Hannah is the 3rd TE next year, so no drafting 3rd TE.

I think players like Phil Loadholt and Jonathan Luigs are going to be available for Dallas. I think they draft those two, keep Free and Holland, and those+the starters will be the 9 Olinemen next year.

Chase Daniels as the backup QB.

Weak class for DEs, DTs and LBs I think.

Also, of late I’m a sucker for players from Troy, like Ware.

Sherrod Martin, FS at Troy – this is his right up for 1/20 from here

01/20/09 – 2009 Senior Bowl Monday Practice: Troy’s Sherrod Martin practiced at cornerback throughout the day and looked surprisingly effective. He was a bit high in his backpedal at times, but broke on the ball well and showed better than expected hips to turn and run deep. – Rob Rang, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

That has the sound of FS to me

by AustonianAggie on Jan 21, 2009 11:40 AM CST reply actions  

Martin

Martin could be a good grab. The Cowboys got lucky with Scandrick and this kid could be the same.

by DallasSooner on Jan 21, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Like all your suggestions AustinAggie

Except Chase Daniels, very overrated IMO. The weird spread offense they ran, he was so far behind center it looked like a punt formation.

T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003

by APerfectStar on Jan 21, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

going on high on SI.com
26 CB Sean Smith Utah Jr. 6-3 214
The Ravens have to get younger at cornerback, where Chris McAllister has probably played his last game in Baltimore and Samari Rolle has had durability issues. Smith is a junior with good height and strong bump and run skills. Coming off a quality showing in the Sugar Bowl against Alabama, his stock has risen of late.

SI.COM

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by Wmillion on Jan 22, 2009 3:52 PM CST reply actions  

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