Dan Reeves and the Cowboys, together again?
Chris Mortensen has a new "scoop" out. Considering how he did last week with the Mike Shanahan to KC deal, we'll see how this one plays out. The word is Dan Reeves may be coming back to Dallas.
Former NFL coach Dan Reeves has been in discussions with the Dallas Cowboys about a consultant's role, according to sources.
Reeves recently interviewed with the San Francisco 49ers about the offensive coordinator's job but a 49ers source said Monday that Reeves informed them he likely would be taking a consultant position with the Cowboys.
Reeves and the Cowboys certainly have history, and Wade Phillips has history with Dan, Reeves' son-in-law is newly-hired ST coach Joe DeCamillas. The Cowboys could use an authority figure around the Ranch. Not out of the question in my estimation.

We signed a couple of futures today.
The Cowboys signed two players to their futures list today -- defensive tackle Tim Anderson and cornerback Michael Hawkins.
Anderson was a third-round pick out of Ohio State in 2004 whose last game action came in 2007 with the Falcons. That's basically all I know about the 6-3, 325-pounder.
Hawkins was at Oklahoma and has a wild background according to the DMN blog.

Check out this Bradie James interview. Pretty amusing. He says firing Brian Stewart didn't change anything and calls out Calvin Watkins and Ed Werder. Good times.

And the hits keep coming. T.O. is getting his own reality TV show. Please, make it stop. Somebody, stop it, I beg of you.
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Interesting on Reeves
He might be more of a sounding board for preparation, but I’m not sure what he would bring as a strategic guru. His offense, heavily based on Tom’s, was considered one of the hardest to learn.
I was going to recently bring Reeves' name into the mix of possible offensive minds to considered when i heard his name resurface a while back.
I would be ALL for bringing in this guy. If I’m not mistaken, he has been involved in more SB games than anyone in history, as a player and coach. Valuable experience, and could maybe teach Garrett the ropes. as we know he needs a mentoring figure.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 27, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
I could see this as a one year tryout
Where if Garrett ends up as HC next year, Reeves becomes his OC, and if not, then he either replaces Garrett as OC or starts looking for coordinator work somewhere else again, with his name brought back to NFL relevence from a year with the Cowboys.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Don't think so
Reeves is what, 65 and had a serious bypass operation ten years ago, when the Falcons went to the Super Bowl. It was interesting to see him go after a coordinator’s job again but I’m surprised he got interviews. He’s been good at getting teams turned around but he’s what, 0-4 in Super Bowls? And none of them were close.
I don’t see him as a long term answer to anything.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 27, 2009 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah I'm not sure what he brings
but if he can get performances than I’m all for it.
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
I read somewhere when Reeves was rumored to go to SanFran.
That he wants to take Vick with him, where ever he goes. And that’s another HUGE distraction this team doesn’t need.
As for him as a consultant, minus the Vick speculation, I honestly don’t know too much about him besides he was the coach of the Falcons in the Super Bowl.
Enlighten me.
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Jeez
don’t know too much about him besides he was the coach of the Falcons in the Super Bowl.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
jsams, you must be a real youngin
If you don’t know who Dan Reeves is, just happened to be one of the all time Cowboys greats.
In Romo we Trust
Although this Hawkins kid is intriguing. Does anyone know what happened at Green bay?
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Whats a future list?
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
The NFL season for signing players doesn't start until March
You can sign a player who wasn’t on a roster last year to a futures contract in this period but he doesn’t officially join the teams’ roster until March.
by Dave Halprin on Jan 27, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
ok thanks
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 27, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
A new hope???
Hopefully he is being brought in to instill some much needed discipline on this team. If this is true, it’s a definite step in the right direction.
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 27, 2009 2:10 AM CST up reply actions
Don't get too excited
Harkins and Anderson may not make the team
Football Men
Adding Tom-Landry Disciples to a franchise gone Tila Tequila can only help. Dan Reeves has forgotten more about football than the likes of Brian Stewart could acknowledge to know. His boots fit in Texas, and Reeves would provide a level of credibility and discipline that this organization sorely lacks. Dan would be an ideal consultant… a link to the past, a true football man; and hopefully, he could help eliminate this Romo-Gone-Wild attitude that has permeated the organization over the last two years.
Dig up Patton
Prop his corpse up on the sideline.
I do like the Tom-landry disciple comment
I’ve thought for sometime the 2000’s edition of the Cowboys has more in common with the 70s than the 90s… not as dynasty-strong but a talented contender each year. This team is probably more built to last over several years than the supernova of the 90s
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Money Comment
especially this one…
His boots fit in Texas, and Reeves would provide a level of credibility and discipline that this organization sorely lacks.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
just don't let him get anywhere near our offense...
we’ll be running the wildcat for the entire game….
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
i still think...
we should at least try lining up isaiah stanback at qb in the wildcat.. i mean, its worth a try and he can’t get on the field any other way…
IS with FJ and TC on his sides…
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 27, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
No matter the capacity
Having Reeves on board will be a huge asset.
I hope this happens
IF YOU'RE LOOKIN FOR ME...I'M AT THE SCRIP CLUB WITH PACMAN......AND WE'RE BEING REBELLION!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 27, 2009 6:12 AM CST reply actions
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 27, 2009 6:44 AM CST up reply actions
+2
Having a veteran of NFL coaching with a proven track record can only help this team and organization. Remember, a lot of the moves they made last year didn’t seem like a big deal but when the season started, the negative impact of some of those moves (hiring bruce read, signing Pac man) was felt almost immediately. This move can only be positive.
Two Bosses is a great idea
This is a sign that 09 will be Wades last year in Dallas.
Polishing the brass
on the Titanic is what it sounds like to me. Doesn’t matter what fringe hirings and firings we make if there aren’t sustantive changes
by cow_fanatic on Jan 27, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
I suspect Dan Reeves as a consultant would offer sugestions for changes
up and down the organization, like a less powerful Bill Parcels
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
+1
Maybe Reeves will handle some of the void left by Sparano. Because of his experiece, I would think that he understands O-line responsibilities and the run game better than Garrett. Maybe he can get a Jamal Anderson year outta Barber—not necessarily the numbers, but a means of production that showcases these backs.
ROMOCOP!
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 27, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
I like your point but no reason to give Barber 400 caries
we got three backs and should use all 3. If egos were moot, I’d start Tarshard and sprinkle in Felix all game, and go last half of 3rd and the whole 4th with Barber
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
+1
tashard should remain the constant, with sprinkles of felix the cat
and let barber close out
this opens up the passing game as well
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
I like the strength by division approach
Anybody notice how the Card’s old used up RB is running against playoff Ds?
yeah he was on the sideline most of the year too
then the playoffs start, and he’s fresh and edge-looking
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
Oh I wouldn't want them to do anything
that keeps Barber from coming in fresh. Honestly, I think Tashard is more of a starting RB also. I’m just hoping Reeves’ coming in would influence the running game overall.
ROMOCOP!
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 27, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
GM type duties???
What if Jerry is really trying to change by bringing in someone to help out with the GM side of the house ala Parcells in Miami?
I'm sure Jerry's at least interested in picking someone's brain
much like he did with Big Bill.
ROMOCOP!
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 27, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder how Jerry sees Reeves in regard to ties to the Dallas past
a tether to the 1st dynasty
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Love Dan Reeves
DR has the coaching background, history with Wade, plus he is a real Cowboy from the old days. Adding Reeves to the mix has got to be a big plus for the team.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Raf's thought about a sounding board
seems about right. He’s not going to be d-coordinator. We already have an offensive coaching group. It doesnt appear that talent evaluation is whats lacking in the organization right now. About the only thing left is general coaching philosophy. And he’s got strong ties to Wade.
A sounding board seems about right.
Define "Consultant"
It’s a nebulous term at best. And while we’re at it, define “sounding board.”? What does that really even mean? Will Reeves have actual input into draft, free agent decisions and personnel matters? Will he have duties and responsibilities for actual game day preparation and management? Or is he just another schmoe that Jerry will can say was somehow included in the decision-making process when he makes a hare brained signing. Just what does his potential role as “consultant” entail?
Jerry’s got a serious perception problem in terms of team discipline. I suspect a Reeve’s hiring is nothing but a pretext to address this issue of the team’s perception. What can Reeve’s really do? Who knows. The question is what will he be asked to do? Until we know the answer, I think it’s a little bit premature to be weighing in on the scope of his potential influence on the team.
Not to get off the subject but,
I have a hypothetical situation based off a rumor that the fins may not resign Channing Crowder. I do not know if he is the same type of ILB as Brady James or if he could play the position that Zach had. Raf do you think he would be a good fit for this team?
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
He won't come cheap
How many 3-4 teams need a big fast young ILB?
How many sane coaches let a big fast young ILB leave?
makes you wonder whats up with him
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
He was dinged in school
I think it was an ACL but there were concearns when he was drafted. Still you make a great point, how many quality LBs does Parcells allow to walk away.
Why wouldn't Miami resign him?
Any further details?
by StillHateTheGiants on Jan 27, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Word is that they maybe trying to low ball him on his contract and they will not franchise him.
Right now this is from pft so it is more rumor than substance, which is why I phrased it as a hypothetical situation just to get some feedback.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Thanks
If he’s a talented young player, I just don’t understand why Miami would take a chance and let him get away too easy. Zach Thomas was another story, let the expensive old guys go and build new.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jan 27, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Need a 350 lb
DT to keep the line off him, he’s a little small
by cow_fanatic on Jan 27, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Guards are 330
We need a bigger NT in the 3-4. Parcells knew this which is why he brought in Ferguson. We haven’t replaced our space-eater yet but will in the draft or FA
guards are rarely 330...
roughly 300 normally… any bigger and they have trouble pulling…. minus a select few
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 27, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
he's a special guy
but i think most people say Kosier is Dallas’s best puller. I don’t really know if I had Tivo I’d watch for it more.
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Opps,
sorry here is the link to his stats.
http://www.nfl.com/players/channingcrowder/profile?id=CRO702055
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Exactly What Dallas Needed
Another 60-something year old geriatric who cannot identify with younger players. I’m sure that’s what the young players on this team want to see. More people who look like Jerry trolling the sidelines during camp and practice spouting off about a value system that long ago went by the wayside. I’ll bet the young African American players are the most happy of the bunch and really welcome this.
Yeah…good.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tom Coughlin is 62 and one the Super Bowl last year
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Jan 27, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
I just looked that up
It says here that he was a HEAD COACH.
It also says here that he is known as a disciplinarian. Wow.
Oh well, I’m sure if he was a consultant, and Santa Claus was the Head Coach, they would have done just as well, right?
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I agree with 5 blings here i cannot see this being an exciting move for anyone in the locker room and does anyone really feel that the game has not passed
Reeves by? I remember in the middle of the Parcells experiment where many here and at BSr we’re commenting on how the game had passed parcells by,that he was being too conservative and not making adjustments or adjusting for personnel. I can’t see him coming in to somehow instill discipline in the team ,he’s not the coach so why would the players give a rats a#$ about what he has to say. The only potential value i can see here is as a game plan consultant or a clear head to scout against us every week. This reeks of a pr move that will have little if any effect on THIS team. I hope I am wrong i hope all we needed was a geriatric 4 time superbowl loser standing in the shadows with jerrah to get this train back on the tracks but i am highly dubious.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
thats why mike tomlin is at the super bowl right now
the players like him, and honestly i’m obviously not a steelers fan but mke tomlin aka omar epps aka dr. foreman is awesome
i would want him as our coach, he seems like a cool guy, plus he’s a good coach, very demanding of his players.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
Perhaps he is there to consult the coaches?
Kind of like Bill Walsh did for the niners?
I dunno I just think he should be judged based on his accomplishments and not his age.
And from what I know health problems are what kept him away from the game not his inability and apparently he is healthy enough to contribute again. Granted he is a 4 time Super Bowl loser but don’t you think getting and having a shot is better than one and done in the playoffs?
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Jan 27, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
How long ago was that ? he lost his last superbowl 5-6 years ago. Unless he is going to be the actual coach
I am not sure he can have anything more than a negligible effect. like i said before i think he could best serve as a clear mind that can scout against us every week someone with the distance and perspective to see any emerging patterns or tells in both our offense and defense. We heard several times last year how predictable we were and how slowly adjustment were in being made(Ravens). If he comes in and tries ti impose his brand of discipline with no teeth to back it up he will only be another distraction. Ricky Dan Reeves is no Bill Walsh. Sorry bra.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
ideally he'd teach Wade how to get consistent performances from players
rather than the roller coaster we’ve all suffered through since 2004
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
I am with Pretty Ricky
Vick is no where near the passer Romo is, but under Reeves he was highly functional.
Not sure how brining in a guy who LOVES THE STAR and has 30+ years of football experience is a bad thing..
Dan Reeves loves two things football and the Cowboys- I say “Welcome Aboard”.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
what is he going to do wmillion? what is he going to coach? just adding coaches to add coaches does nothing but dilute the real coaches power.
using your logic we should bring Ditka in as well he’s good at yelling at people has 30 plus years experience and i am sure he has some Cowboys love. Do you think thats a good idea ?hey he actually won a superbowl too. maybe he can trade our whole draft for one player.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
I wish
I knew the inner workings of the Cowboy organization. Like I said “Welcome aboard” nothing wrong with having a inexperienced mind around..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
you meant "experienced"
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
+1 wmillion...There are very few people in NFL history that can match the experience and wisdom of Dan Reeves.
To even question why he’s being brought here is foolish. He can do nothing but help this team. Period !
Garrett couldn’t hold Reeves’ jock when it comes to offensive game planning, calls, and adjustments. The game doesn’t pass by guys like Reeves, a multiple Coach of thr Year winner. I can care less how big his part is, It’s change, and we are all calling for change. Now your going to question change ?
btw….I would welcome Mike Ditka as well…..to answer stoproyces sarcastic comments.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 27, 2009 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Ditka I disagree with he had a flame out as New Orlean's coach
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
it wasn't sarcasm it was following a line of logic. i'd beg to differ about the game not passing reeves by or guys like him.
I think Joe Gibbs actually won some Superbowls and i don’t think anyone would say he wasn’t lost there at the end. Why isn’t Parcells coaching? Marv levy is still part of the team up in Buffalo but he is no longer coaching. Sorry if i offended any of the sextigenarians in here but its a new world . Sometimes things evolve in unexpected ways and holding on to old ideas and methods instead of evolving can be a very dangerous stance to take.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Gibbs looked senile at times
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
You obviously missed the part about how he and Elway NEVER got along
I don’t know if that’s what Tony (aka Mr. Fragile Ego) needs right now.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Yeah that same fragile ego that became a starter under parcells, I am sure that
tony will just crumble at the mighty Reeves. Romo spent 3 yrs under BP and became a starter when Bledsoe was pulled out and tony was sent in and was eaten alive in that game, he came back and beat Car on the road in primetime. A tough coach may be just what he needs again.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
should read: "and not his inablity to coach"
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Jan 27, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
what is he gonna coach ricky? Is he gonna replace Wade? Garrett (God No)? The QB's (not a bad idea actually)?
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Wasn't calling him Bill Walsh
was saying his position could be similar to that of Walsh’s a consultant to the coaches.
When referring to his coaching I was implying (which I obviously did not do so well) that he was away from the game due to his health not that he didn’t know what the hell he was doing.
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Jan 27, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
how many chefs do we want spoiling the soup this year? I am wholly un impressed by this move if it happens.
It almost seems like a red herring to distract from the real issues here. I hope he can help I am just not so sure where that would be.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
And since you bring QB's
Perhaps that is just what he was brought in to do.
2002-Vick’s first full year as a starter was Reeve’s last full year as head coach.
Vick had the highest passer rating of his career, least interceptions, 2nd most TD passes, most rushing TD’s.
http://www.nfl.com/players/michaelvick/profile?id=VIC311467
Just speculating like the rest of us are my man
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Jan 27, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
I could handle that. Bye bye mr. wilson.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Hahaha
Bleh just looked at Vicks fumbles and he is worse than Romo. If I am gonna give Reeve’s credit for helping Vick out with passing then I gotta blame him for the fumbles.
Now Jerry needs to bring in a consultant to consult the coaches on Romo’s fumbling!
I kid I kid
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Jan 27, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder . . .
what kind of value system Bill Bellichek spouts, because it seems to work. Or for that matter, Mike Tomlin. I think the mistake many coaches/leaders make is to try to identify with their troops, i.e., be their friend (Exhibit A—Brian Stewart).
Reeves
I like Reeves as a man. He seems to have great morals. Love the fact that he played for the Cowboys. But I don’t see any value in this decision. He hasn’t coached in 5 years. That’s a long time to be out of talent evaluation. He’s 61, and his name isn’t Parcells. Players wouldn’t give him the respect. I don’t get it. This is like shining a turd, fire Wade and flush it.
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
absurd comment....players wouldn't give him any respect ???
How do you figure that ? The guy has played or coached in more Super Bowls than anyone in NFL history…..I think that deserves respect. And he doesn’t put up with any BS either.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 27, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
yeah he's lost more superbowls than anyone in history but i don't think that will impress anyone in the locker room besides do you think he'd gonna be the head coach?
If he’s a consultant he’s gonna have even less juice with these players. Sometimes reality seems absurd I guess.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
He's won two SB's as a player
He’s coached in SB’s as a coach and lost. He won his SB’s playing before anyone in the NFL was alive. He doesn’t put up what? It was his Falcons team that had Buchanan get busted the week of the SB. The Dirty Bird Dance. That was really not a disciplined team.
Do you really think that today’s NFL players are going to listen to Dan Reeves? That is crazy. Super Bowl trivia isn’t a test at combines. Deion carries 100 times more weight to NFL players than Dan Reeves. I’ll bet 25% of NFL players don’t know who he is!
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
Not sure any Cowboys players were alive when Reeves won as a player
Just sayin…
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Reeves
Well, This is happening because our head coach is a teddy bear, if that’s the way we are going bring back Parcells.
Update: Reeves wants to coach
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/01/reeves-wants-to-coach.html
"In a late December interview, former Broncos, Giants and Falcons coach Dan Reeves said he would love to get back into coaching again.
This is what Reeves told Bob Papa of SIRIUS Satellite Radio: “I’m definitely interested. When I lost Robert Fraley as my agent – [he] died in a plane crash with [professional golfer] Payne Stewart – I never replaced Robert. I was in Atlanta and so when I got let go in Atlanta I just never went after [another] agent. But I’ve got one now. I want to see what’s out there. I definitely would be interested in getting back into coaching. I know that sounds crazy when you board a plane in Newark [NJ] like I did Monday morning, about 7:30 Monday morning, landed in Atlanta and turned on the radio and three coaches had been fired while I was in the air. So why in the world would someone want to get into a business like that? But, you know, it’s in your blood [and] I can’t get it out.”
Reeves wouldn’t coach the Cowboys of course. There’s an ESPN report that says he could become a consultant to the Cowboys. Now, if say things go bad and Wade Phillips has to get let go, Reeves is the man to take over. Then in 2010 give the job to Jason Garrett. "
Lame Duck Redux... Great,
just great. It’s bad enough that Wade was an effective lame duck last year because Garrett was the “head coach in waiting.” Now Reeves is poised to take over mid-season if Wade falters — and Garrett is still on board to take in 2010? This is getting more dysfunctional by the second. If true, I don’t view Reeve’s hiring as a positive at all. Jerry needs to quit putting off a decision on Wade. Fire him now and install Garrett, Reeves or whoever else he wants as HC. This just can’t go on like this.
by Boundforbeach on Jan 27, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Reeves 2
He wants to coach, but it seems that the way the NFL is going now is with new blood, he may be a great consultant, but can he coach in todays speed and “rules” of win now ? it is hard to say, but I think he can be someone Dallas can listen.
Reeves always won wherever he coached, just had a lousy record in the Super Bowl
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Please, no more.
The only way Reeves could help this team is if he assumed Jerruh’s duties. Having him work with coaches, players, cheerleaders or ball boys is not what is wrong with this team. I know she isn’t well thought of in this Homersphere, but the Ball of Hate really nails it today. This team is a joke. They just turned in a season performance that should get top management fired. Instead, we get more stupid reality TV shows. The only place Jerruh hasn’t plastered his face is on milk cartons. That’s the only place it will really help this joke of team.
by steelyeyedmissle on Jan 27, 2009 9:52 AM CST reply actions
Only way to stop this bleeding is if JJ gets amnesia or has unexpected brain activity!
Jerry Jones is killing Dallas…. again. It didn’t take long but he has finally put this team into such a down spin that unless he has some kind of epiphany we’re back to the late ninties Cowboys. Great. Hemophiliac is back. T.O. is such a devisive cancer and now has a reality show, Michael Irvin with a reality show that will put a player in training camp. What next? No wonder they call Dallas “the Circus”. Just shut up and play some ball.
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by torchindefenses on Jan 27, 2009 10:31 AM CST reply actions
YAWN....
I think somebody on the blog said it best “ghetto fabulous”
Yup the more i think about this the more i have to say BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
WTF is happening to my team ? Maybe we can bring in Phil Jackson i heard he was retiring from basketball this year. Mike Ditka used to play for the cowboys and actually won a superbowl once maybe he can come in and whisper in wades ear for a couple million bucks? This is dumbfounding.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
JJ is not going to fire Wade until after this season
I think he is keeping Wade around to fine tune the defense. B Stewart is gone and we don’t have anyone in the organization right now that can do the defense better than Wade. Wade is basically the DC with the title of Head Coach.
Reeves will help in several ways.
1) More of an authority figure than Wade
2) Should push more for quality team players than the TO / Pacman types
3) Has connections all over the NFL
4) Restores accountibility
The DNA is still corrupt
Seriously folks, those of you blinded by Owens’ career statistics, doesn’t the following make you think he might really be as big as problem as others say:
“VH1 announced Monday that the series takes place in the offseason, and T.O.’s best friends and publicists — Monique Jackson and Kita Williams — will help him re-examine his personal life. The two will work as "matchmakers and therapists” for Owens."
I view this annoucement akin to Jason Taylor competing on Dancing with Stars. Both men have one foot out the door of the NFL, and are more concerned about “making a business decision” than the game and their team. You would think that after the season he had just experienced, the normal reaction would be to lower your profile, no? But then again, I base that opinion on a normal reaction.
As for Reeves, I like and respect him a great deal. But, adding him as a consultant will just compound the confusion at Valley Ranch. You already have a coaching staff that has difficulty controlling the locker room. Now you throw another former head coach in the mix, and the signal sent to the players is what? That if Wade screws up, the interim has already been hired? How about Jason Garrett? Does this enhance or undermine his authority as the offensive coordinator? I believe it is the latter. More chaos and confusion is in the offing because no one person is firmly in charge of this team.
And I haven’t even mentioned the insanity of Michael Irvin picking a training camp player. Has this organization learned anything from the disastrous 2008 season? Apparently not. What is the common link among Owens, Reeves and Irvin? You guessed it, our Owner/GM. Yes, the DNA is still corrupt, and the genetic mutations are getting uglier by the day.
+1... Dysfunction junction
Agreed. See my post above. Having yet another potential “head coach in waiting” will cause more problems than it solves. If Jerry has meaningful reservations about Wade, then he should just let him go. Frustrating.
by Boundforbeach on Jan 27, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Consultants..
..in business we joke sometimes about consultants and their roles.
A couple of deprecating definitions of a consultant, both having something to do with time for some reason;
a) A consultant is someone who takes your watch and tells you what time it is and charges lots of money.
b) A consultant is someone who can tell you how to build a clock, but can’t tell you what time it is and charges lots of money.
My guess is, Reeves is more likely to fit the first joke more than the second one. A consultant can serve as a dispassionate professional who can look at your organization from arms length and offer advice about where to change, focus, eliminate, etc. The trick is to pick a professional who knows what they’re talking about (Reeves has the experience) and what, if any, of his suggestions to implement.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
I'm more curious about his views on Hollywood Henderson
though I guess TO is more relevant
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
With John Elway
he helped develop the 3 amigos. None of those guys were individual superstars, which shows Reeves may be able to help bring guys like Hurd, Austin, and Stanbach around.
ROMOCOP!
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 27, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
co-sign
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
This is kinda deja vu...
During the 2008 season, the beleguered special teams coach gets help from position coaches to make the unit play better. Obviously, it didn’t work and the st coach was fired. Now, we are doing the same thing with hiring a consultant to help the beleguered head coach make his team play better. Anyone care to take a bet on whether it will work the second time around?
Ugh...
No wonder I play pool and throw darts more than ever. My favorite hobby is turning into a nightmare and I’m praying for the silver lining. I just want my effin team back.
Honestly, I have been 50/50 on keeping TO the past couple of weeks. I know he’s a game-breaker but I honestly feel he is on his decline. (I’m not going to get into my counter-argument that Jason Garrett should have lined him up in the slot and put him in motion a lot more which he should… that’s been discussed more than enough on here)
He’s simply not as good as he used to be. He’s still an awesome player, but not as good. He’s more of a liability than anything between his outspoken personality to media and coaches, his perceived negative effect on Romo’s decision making and want for the ball, and now this stupid TV show?? GET REAL.
My argument has been “Whatever the big-wigs in Valley Ranch decide, I’m all for it, because they are in the locker-room and meetings and I am not.” Now, after hearing about this reality TV show, I really don’t think TO is more of an asset than a liability. After last season, we should have learned to GET AWAY from distractions, not bring on more.
How could he think this is a good idea for the team. If he really wanted to win, he wouldn’t do this. Read between the lines.
He is making a business decision, guaranteed
If Owens was an investor, you would call this move diversifying your portfolio, the better to absorb losses in other parts of his portfolio.
Diversification...
would only work here if there was meaningful compensation from creating new additions in the portfolio, right? How does he think it’s a good idea to get a couple hundred thousand dollars for a show, when he could concentrate on his PROFESSION and make millions…
by commoncents on Jan 27, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Haha neither can Jason Taylor...
and he seemed to mamba his way right out of MIA
by commoncents on Jan 27, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
It is the off season.
Why are people tripping about what the guy does in the OFF SEASON now? Is anyone saying they believe T.O. won’t be in shape? This is a lark, take it for what it is. You guys are way too serious about this.
questin
Do you feel the same way about Romo and his trip to Cabo?
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
I mean I honestly don't think that's why we lost...
but again I don’t think it was the smartest thing in the world he could have done. Do I wish he stayed at home, having a secret meeting with Witten (just kidding), and studied his playbook. Yea. Do I think he studied hard and did what he had to do on his trip. Yea.
But the perception and circus that followed didnt help, it might not have hurt them as much as some idiots think, but it didn’t help. That’s all my point was…
by commoncents on Jan 27, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
That's my thinking..
I really see no difference in Romo seating by the pool at his house or the pool in Cabo..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
Right...
I would just avoid potential controversy if possible at this point they are at…
But I’m going to continue to watch and read everything Dallas Cowboys as I have, b/c nothing gets my blood flowing like this team.
agreed
I agree 100%, I honestly don’t think Romo thought going to Cabo was a big deal. Had he known a year later people would still be referring to that, I don’t think he goes.
Romo had no clue playing QB well for the cowboys meant the media would try to assassinate his character.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
I agree
If Romo knew the reaction to his trip he wouldnt have taken it
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 28, 2009 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
I think there is a difference between what a player does in the offseason
and what he does during a playoff bye week
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 27, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
How many players . . .
spend the offseason re-examining their personal life on national TV with their personal matchmaker and therapist? We’re not talking about him fishing and playing golf with his buddies.
wait one of those chicks is a professional match maker?
what? just fill in my question marks… what?
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think TO won't be in shape.
But perception matters as much as you think it doesn’t. All year, everyone and their mother told me everything in the locker room is fine and blah blah blah; as soon as the season is over, there is friendly fire from all angles. So many people calling out each other THROUGH THE MEDIA. And the distractions follow those perceptions if the player is willing to makee decisions that look to be taking away from his ability to improve the cohesiveness of the team (as a leader, like he wants to be looked at).
If he wants to win as badly as he says he does, then don’t you think he’d be 100% committed to showing his teammates the circus that follows him and Dallas in general isn’t going to distract him from his “true” want to be successful, therefore trying to stay out of the spotlight for ONE off-season. It’s been pretty established that there is a divide in the lockerroom, and personally I think he shouldn’t do something like a reality TV show when there are more important matters to be taken care of like trusting each other, not complaing when others are successful while you’re not, and actually having comradery and A TEAM instead of a bunch of individuals.
But my personality isn’t like his, so it’s just my two cents. Just doesn’t seem like the right thing to do, and maybe I want the team to be successful as much as TO wants TO to be successful.
by commoncents on Jan 27, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I think that perception
matters but the question is matters to whom? Let’s face it, the only reason why any of the things that have come out after the season have come out is because the Cowboys didn’t win and go to the playoffs. Personally, I think the Cowboys are like the Yankees of baseball. They have a national following and fan base, and therefore, writers believe they can create news about both of those teams instead of reporting REAL news. I mean it’s not like someone slept with someone’s wife or something. Now THAT is a distraction.
You are not going to get 53 wealthy, competitive men to consistently work together without some disagreement of some sort. That is to be expected. The point, as I see it, is if someone didn’t like T.O. to start with, that person now has ammunition to discuss his negatives. I can’t believe that anyone seriously believes that T.O. and Irvin are actually trying to find someone to really make the Cowboy’s roster. That is really a stretch. If the guy performs well on the field, that is really what he gets paid for. The rest of this stuff is irrelevant.
I agree but can't escape the notion that TO wants this reality TV show to clear up his name
I wish he’d worry more about drops than his sensitive side. I believe drops are something a wide receiver can work on, mental discipline can be had.
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
In his book "Finding Fitness"
he ‘reveals’ I guess that having the proper mindset and controlling the mind is the first step to staying fit and performing well. I think T.O. is doing his reality shows simply because he loves him some him. He’s a funny guy, so it’ll get some laughs and T.O. will be able to successfully after he retires assimilate into being the new Bally Total Fitness Spokesperson.
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
I understand what you are saying,
and I agree that because it’s the Cowboys everything will twist and turn until the writers have the story they want.
Yes, of course he is paid for how he performs on the field, but there isn’t a statistic or number or average that shows what kind of effect off the field issues have on other team-oriented intangibles that effect the make-up of a team
You are absolutely
correct and that is why I try very hard to stay away from those things I can’t quantify. Writers need stories to survive and frankly the Cowboys are the best story in Dallas win or lose.
This whole organization is starting to feel like a reality tv show
Maybe he should hire Gordon Ramsay as a consultant
by Boundforbeach on Jan 27, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Hawkins
Is he really that physically gifted? Wow!!
Summer 2005: Hawkins signs a four-year contract with a $144,000 bonus after the Packers draft him in the fifth round, even though he hasn’t played traditional football in more than two years.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
so what happened to him in Gb? its not like their coffers are overflowing with young corners? I am very interested to
see what this kid brings to the table ,hope his head is straight.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
yeah this kid gets a chance on raw talent
but he’s only getting a chance. These are the kind of guys we read about all summer and then they vanish when the season starts
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
with with 4.3 speed
Punt Returner..Hawkins here is video of the best punt returners in the league- Get Ready..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
with 4.3 speed
Punt Returner? Hawkins here is 2 hour tape of the best Punt Returners in the league, start studying..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
I don't know he doesn't seem to actually like football
in the DMN articles… never played tell he was 17 or something… i think you have to love football to be a punt returner. not a contact shying CB
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe T.O. will snuff himself in his reality show.
I pray.
Can we get some good news this off season?
Let T.O. Go!
by Captain Comeback on Jan 27, 2009 12:02 PM CST reply actions
Can't believe the madness...
I can not understand why everyone is in such an uproar? So-called fans of today really upset me. Everyone talks about how much they love the team but can’t stand them anymore because of _______…..(insert whatever gripe here). While I will say I was disappointed by this past season, it is not the end of the world. It’s not like we are back to the 1-15 days. We have a very solid team that will only get better.
It’s amazing that Wade has only been here 2 seasons and everyone acts as though we should automatically be in the Super Bowl or playoffs. His first year was unexpected, this season was a return to reality, next should be a much needed step forward. If people would stop buying into all the negative media coverage and look at things realistically they would see that this team isn’t that bad off. They could be like the Lions.
So if your really a fan then support the team, not just when things are going good, but when things are going bad as well. If you say your a life long fan and have supported the team through thick and thin but you can’t anymore because of the petty nonsense that has been overblown by today’s media, then you are no “true fan” at all….
Oh trust me ...
I’ll be a Cowboys homer til I die.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
BigKat
There is a swell of frustration when expectations are high and when your favorite team plays gutless like in the PHILLY GAME, of course those frustrations will be provoked. No way would I believe you if you told me we would have been 9-7 and miss the playoffs after the 13-3 season. We want a playoff win, or atleast a team that plays its heart out for 60 mins instead of folding like a lawn chair and then pointing their fingers at each other after that horrendous season conclusion…
PS
I put in tons of money, time, and effort into being a Dallas homer with rose-colored glasses. Every sunday, I honestly believe Dallas can beat anyone in the league (every year haha).
This is why I think as fans we have the right to gripe about things we don’t like going on within the organization, without being ostrasized for stating our opinions. It’s not we don’t support or like the team, we would just like changes to be made for the better.
Ya know?
Other than the media signing a contract . . .
the media had nothing to do with Jerry Jones agreeing to the Michael Irvin reality show, or Owens conducting a nationwide self-psychoanalysis. We are frustrated because our team has not won a playoff game in 12 years and we are not content to just have a “very solid team.” We are frustrated because not only has our team failed to win a playoff game in 12 years, they have managed to make themselves in a national laughingstock. Look at Steelers fans for crying out loud. Who couldn’t get excited about rooting for practically nameless players, a star-less team, but a TEAM, that doesn’t just try to win games, but wants to beat you into submission, littering the field with Ravens bodies in the AFC championship game. That’s football. You want us to be content to support a team that is better known for its off-field exploits? No thank you. The Cowboys are overhyped, overexposed, and most definitely overrated. Give me Blaine Nye, Dave Manders and John Niland who agreed to pay a fine if any one of them ever talked to a reporter. Give me Bob Lilly launching a football helmet 70 yards after losing Super Bowl V. Give me Randy White who, after battling with Russ Grimm in the trenches for 4 quarters, would sooner kill him than invite him over to his house after the game to watch movies. Give me Roger Staubach who embedded a ping pong paddle in a wall because he couldn’t stand losing to Danny White in ping pong, who verbally sparred with the Rams bench in a 1975 regular season loss promising, in an uncharacteristic manner, that the Cowboys would beat them again in the playoffs, and backed up his big talk with a 37-7 win.
Not the modern players...
I agree with your sentiment. But I think the days of players actually hating each other and, more importantly, hating to lose with anger, vengeance and zeal are yesteryear. Watch any game. Win or lose, players hug each other, gather in group prayer rings, smile for the cameras, etc… How many players today says the game is “a business”? All of em. If you want to make em hate losing, then the contracts should be more heavily incentive based for wins, losses and playoff appearances. Take money out of their pockets, then you’ll see the passion…
by Boundforbeach on Jan 27, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Would you call T.O.'s actions "passion" :)
by Boundforbeach on Jan 27, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
NO
Rather, his actions are the consquences of the “battle [of[ the two sides of his large personality” that manifest as “braggadocio” and “emotional histrionics” that are a desperate call for the services of a matchmaker and therapist.
Very nice post
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Staubach really flipped out that bad over a ping pong match?
That’s the most awesome thing I’ve heard today. There was a similiar story about John Elway getting rid of a pool table because he lost to Bubby Brister. Must be some kind of genetic trait common amongst Champions.
in a study of the world's top 20 swimmers
(i got no link to prove this) 18 of them stated they hated losing a lot more than liked winning. Thats usually the tie that binds champions
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 27, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
Reeves
does NOTHING for me by coming back..
what need does he fill….
what does he do, this man you seek………????!?!!?
really, i am all for all kinds of consultants and such if they fulfill a need but really…..
oh really ??...Then WHY is it EVERYONE and their MaMa's WANTED Dom "ole man" Capewrs LAST season to be a friggin consultant.
Reeves has a whole lot better track record than Dom Capers.
AND GARRETT NEEDS EVER DAMN PIECE OF SUPPORT HE CAN MUSTER UP.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 27, 2009 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Is '09 Superbowl or bust?
Seriously. Trying to think this through. (1) If the Cowboys win the Superbowl, then Jerry’s madness is completely vindicated. Wade, unless he retires, would stay. This is possible, but unlikely. (2) If we hire Reeves and (if the reports are to be believed) our team starts out badly, Wade will be fired and replaced with Reeves in the interim. Again, this is possible. Then what, Red Jesus in 2010 or Shanahan, Gruden or even possibly Reeves if the team reacts well under him? At least there would be change. (3) To me, the worst possible scenario is the the team squeaks into the playoffs and manages to put an end to the 12 year drough by winning a single game. Then what?? Keep Wade since he kind of delivered. Fire Wade, since it was not good enough?
Given the front office chaos and speculation, I just don’t know how Jerry can rationalize keeping Wade for next season, unless he really thinks we are Superbowl bound.
Shanahan, Holmgren,Cowher
I think we will see one of them in 2010 excepting us going to NFC championship due to Reeves…….
I have put them in my order of probability
Reeves potential 1st remarks after being hired as consultant
Thanks, Jerry for paying me this year to talk. Now fire Wade and I’ll be in my office. You may want to consider hiring a coach that commands and demands repect that you will give control to. It may not be as much fun for you not to be involved in football decisions but you will give this franchise an opportunity to win again.
To me it's simple.....
We have the on field talent, they just need to be coached…
And Wade can’t or won’t do that, weather he is incapable or weather Jerry won’t let him, i don’t know.. but right now there are a host of holly horrors out there of PROVEN head coaches… are they guarantees? NO… but man not acting now is wrong.. our talent window is really only open for a few years, last year being one of them, and it will take a new coach a year or two to get settled.. so not doing it now could be the end of us for a while…
i am certain we will not be able to sign (keep) a few players because we have given some so much, and i am sure our draft picks are running thinner than normal, because of giving up so much.. and i am sure we are going to miss out on players because they either leave or don’t even consider us in free agency because of the circus that we are… players used to want to play for the Cowboys, now i doubt we can say that is the case as much…
we are poised right now talent wise to win for a few years.. but that window will close and close hard without a coach…. a real coach brings respectability, credibility, etc… and players will want to stay, they will want to come here to play…
well the coaches all looked a lot better when Kyle Kosier was playing
as far as players on the field having the talent, I don’t think we did at LG
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Question. Just curious...
Is there anyone on these threads who strongly believes Wade should return as the Head Coach next year? If so, are the arguments limited to continuity and his late season role in taking over defensive play calling?
I will say he's got Demarcus Ware approaching epic levels
he’s starting to get the best out of his best players on defense
Bradie James, Ratliff, Ware. secondary is more up and down. If we still had Woodson I bet our D would be every bit as good year in year out as the Ravens. Mediocre Safety play is hamstringing the D
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Or Ware's progress is the natural progression of a great player
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
Players
usually get three years to prove themselves, and coaches should get the same. Wade has 13-3 and a 9-7 seasons, was hit with injuries (particularly on offense) in the second year.
I know that success in Dallas means a Super Bowl win; anything short of that is regarded as failure, but I think Wade gets a third year to get it done.
By any standards other than the Cowboys, his first two years have been successful.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
then he can leave and coach someone other than the Cowboys
Based his first two years of bliss, name a team that hires him as their HC right now
Dunno but Eric Mangini got hired
His 3 years of bliss
10-6
4-12
9-7
Wade’s report card looks better than his
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Jan 27, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
yeah and I still don't get why the Jets fired him
basically for losing to Miami in the last game?
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
So you're happy
with the consistency and discipline the Hillbillyy Clown has instilled in this team the last two years?
I don't mind giving Wade another year
but I don’t STRONGLY feel he has to be the coach. We saw glimpes of a great D, but it was inconsistent. I think our D will be nasty next year if we get another big NT, a young SS, and solve the other ILB spot if Zach isn’t back.
I also think and hope that Garrett can do great things. Just run felix, choice, and barber all day. More playactions to Witten and our new rapper Bennett.
I really think Jerry is the problem here, but that isn’t changing, so I don’t feel strongly about too many coaching aspects as much as I should, b/c Jerry’s having way too much fun as GM/Owner.
Bear with me regarding the following extemporaneous speculation
What can we understand from the news this week? As I have speculated in previous posts (emphasis on "speculate"), I believe the Dallas front office was leaking to the press about Stephen Jones attempting to persuade his father to release Terrell Owens. I believe this was done to both send a message, positive and negative, to Owens that he was on thin ice with the coaching staff and front office, communicated by “bad cop” Stephen, but that Jerry was willing to ride out the critics and retain Owens—playing the role of “good cop”. The end result is—Owens will play for the Cowboys in 2009. You need no further proof than his VH-1 Reality Show. There is no way he would pull this stunt if he truly thought his status with the team was in jeopardy.
As for any further changes to the coaching staff, the answer to that is now an emphatic no, confirmed by the announcement of the Michael Irvin reality show. There is no way a new, serious head coach determined to impose law and order in the locker room would tolerate such nonsense. This is classic Jerry the gambler, doubling down, all the while trying to milk every bit of media exposure to enhance the value of his team so he can nail down the permanent debt financing needed for the stadium not covered by tax receipts. Jerry has probably deluded himself to thinking his team is closer to the 13-3 2007 version than the 9-7 and sinking fast 2008 version. The Dan Reeves annoucement is probably nothing more than a fig leaf designed to temporarily deceive longstanding Cowboy fans and prospective luxury box lessors that serious changes are coming.
I bore with you and I agree with your reading of the tea leaves
When I heard the news about Reeves, I finally realized that Wade is staying. Its been a sad day indeed. It again feels like the day after the Baltimore game. I guess I am not like the rest of you “true fans” who can easily put last season to rest and get behind the organization. The truth is, if I weren’t a diehard fan, if i hadn’t loved the star for the past 30 years, if I were an objective viewer, then I would not want Jerry Jones to be successful. He seems the antithesis of everything I believe in: holding people accountable, building an organization with quality individuals, teamwork, chemistry, etc. He is all glitz and glam with no substance.
These are my thoughts this very sad day.
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
What if....
What if this isn’t a hoax by Jerry but a serious attempt at bringing in someone to help with all the things people say jerry is horrible at? If Jerry handles the business side of things and keeps the team in the limelight and building revenue and lets Reeves handle the football side of the house how can this be bad? It would be him trying to do something to turn things around which everyones is harping for. He may not be firing Wade, but he is at least trying to bring in an authoritative figure who could have an input on who stays who goes and who plays….
It’s too early in the game for all the speculation. For some odd reason Mr. “I Love the Camera” Jones is being very quiet and discreet about his plans and direction. That in itself represents change even though minimal….
If true. . .
then Dan Reeves would be more than just a consultant. I guess we will have to wait for the press release—this being Super Bowl week, and Jerry being Jerry, we shouldn’t have to wait much longer.
you still have Wade
nothing changes, lack of discipline and focus and consistency continues
To be honest
A consultant isn’t a coach, I don’t think he’s coming in to coach, I think he’s coming in to help with the front office, decisions on who to sign, cut, draft, etc.
by joey7289 on Jan 27, 2009 1:46 PM CST reply actions
Perhaps?
I wouldn’t mind someone who knows what he’s talking about in the front office, who doesn’t have to worry about coaching at the same time.
by joey7289 on Jan 27, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Wait! Stop the Presses!
Isn’t this the FOOTBALL MAN so many been screaming for
Reeves does fit the description.
There, Jerry hired a football man.
On to the draft.
you ready to talk about something else?
Tim Anderson has a pretty unimpressive NFL resume, and was out of football last year. Any chance in his 5th year he’s good enough to be a rotation guy? has he had injury problems?
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Raf in an earlier comment
I brought up the idea of channing crowder (ILB from the fins) as a possible hypothetical FA signing due to a rumor that the fins may not want to sign him because they want to low ball his price. Hypothetically if he was available would he be able to replace the spot that Zach had last year?
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
he might already play Bradie James' spot
Assuming Akin took over Zach’s spot in the 3-4, that means this guy was playing James’ spot. this logic is full of holes though
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Haven't the Mavs always had a buttload of consultants around?
Lot of good it did them.
This move just seems all-around humdrum to me. The upside is maybe he could be a positive influence with the type of players Jerry signs in the future.
Mavs are more consistent competitors than Cowboys
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
And they've won playoff games.
But you can’t compare the NBA with the NFL.
by joey7289 on Jan 27, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Well, according to Wade since a bye is as good as a win.....
The Cowboys would’ve wiped the floor with the 8th-seed Eagles OR…..maybe it is a good thing the NFL playoffs don’t go eight deep.
That really wasn't my point.
And as bad the Giants loss might have sucked sucked, to this day I’m still in disbelief that the Mavs blew the chance to go up 3-0 in the Finals plus the loss to the 8- seed Golden stinking State Warriors was a joke.
I have a growing sense that some dallas area writers are trollish, meanspirited dorks
Finding petty ways to take shots at the team and rile up readers.
stuff like –
Linebacker apologizes for getting arrested
Tim MacMahon
click on link – reveal this:
The linebacker is Seattle’s Leroy Hill, not Dallas’ Anthony Spencer
I’m not even talking about JJT whom I don’t have a complaint about. Between Clarence Hill and McMahon, you’d have to think the disrespect these two show (McMahon also took a shot at Jessica Simpson in the DMN Blog) will eliminate any inside info they might get. I have a hard time imagining Romo talking openly with either of those guys.
If these reporters can’t talk to the stars or players gag up around them, I’d think they’d be out of a job
They operate that blog like it is the TMZ for the cowboys
Look at the picture of JJ at that afterparty, and Timmy calls himself Timmy “Tabloid” MacMahon. I am not very familiar with Brian but I have seen some of the same stuff and its par-for-the-course.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Nick Eatman seems to think Reeves will influence the offense
here he mentions that he was interviewing to be San Fran’s OC and that he might to do hands on coaching
I think Reeves will have a quality control role on offense and for Wade
This is something Landry had with Neil Armstrong, who was a decent coach for the Bears in the late ‘70s. Armstrong reviewed the Cowboys’ game plans and looked for tendencies that other teams would ferret out, because they became too obvious.
Also another set of eyes to review how the organization worked, how personnel are utilized and prepared, and if the organization has any bad/stale habits.
Parcells did this with Ron Wolf (who was hired by several teams to do this) and with Chuck Fairbanks.
Bill trusted these guys’ opinion of personnel and had them review his team independently so that he
would not blow smoke up his own ass regarding talent level.
I’ll repeat. Reeves is that (drumroll please) football man who will cure cancer and get the Cowboys
back on the right track.
Where is the celebration?
I think its a clever idea and I want to see the results of it
I’m not doubting it and Reeves has left a lot of wins in his wake. Reeves won in atlanta with a hot RB and won in Denver with a hot QB, so he shares the anything-it-takes method with BP.
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
Raf, to be fair . . .
I think we had in mind a football man with the authority to hire/fire, sign or cut. Not a consultant. It is still a preliminary report, nothing official yet from Valley Ranch, so maybe the Owner/GM will surprise us and then we can celebrate.
I see no harm in Reeves
and probably some benefits.
I think the whole “football guy” is a canard, which is why I’m being so snarky about it.
I never really got in to the football guy thing
besides I thought after Dallas drafted Roy Williams Jimmy Johnson offically tagged JJ a football-guy
“he’s smart” Jimmy said, “and smart people figure things out”
he’s either still smart and a football guy, or the pundits never were
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Whether anybody likes it or not
Jerry is a football guy. How many GM’s have 20 years experience? He’s not a oil guy anymore. The “football guy” thing is to fill dumb sports radio shows. Whether Jerry is a good football guy is the question.
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
Raf I love your style, you crack me up,
one of the few commentor’s that cuts through the thick line of pessimism by pointing out what the masses have been crying for, to a certain extent: hire a football guy. When I see a lot of the comments on here that have pretty much written next season off it just reminds me of the adults of south park when they are mad and want the mayor to do something. They do not speak in sentences they just keep saying “rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble” until the mayor gives in; that is what I imagine when I see comments that are essentially believe the sky is falling.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
You mean the same sky that said even and 11-5 record would not get the boys into the
playoffs? I remember the sky was falling back then too, I kid, I kid. Look I am just not sold on the sky is falling in fact I have no relevant expecations of this team at this point in the year. If we were able to predict how the boys were going to next year right now is a silly idea. I am not going believe that we know for a fact that they are going to sink again because they have not made the changes that the fanbase wants. I do feel that when the OTA’s start and TC starts we will see if there is a change in how they practice. The guys here cover that, so we are getting some non-msm info. That is when I will start to take in any red-flags and warning signs, until then it’s the offseason for the boys and it is going to suck for me because b-ball and baseball are too tedious to follow until playoff time.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Well, the same people who went 13-3 also went 9-7
The roster was mostly the same.
There was no one single factor that dropped the team four games. It was a number
of small dropoffs that led to a big one. We can go down the line and list them, but we
seem to do that every week.
There’s no magic bullet. No single thing that will turn those little things around.
Since the team is not signing people and drafting people and cutting people or
working out, well, I guess the helplessness is running higher than normal.
amen to that... and we've still got a super bowl to play!
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/
Dan has been in this role before....
Bob McNair , owner of the Texans hired Reeves, to be a consultant in Dom Capers last year as coach…..
didn't he hire Reeves after firing Campers
to enable the search for a new coach?
by AustonianAggie on Jan 27, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
he was there the last year..
and he helped with Kubiak getting the job…he also allowed Kubiak to make the call on keeping Carr or not…they also cut alot of dead weight..high draft choices..FA busts…
We did the Cowboys get Reeves?
Because Marv Levy was unavailable.
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
say what you
want about reeves.
A few weeks ago I was watching the highlights when he was coaching atlanta.
He was using the Wildcat back then with Tim Dwight.
You mght say he knows a thing about offenses!!!!!!!!!!11
by oneforthethumb on Jan 27, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Anybody else think this is a help Garrett hire?
IF YOU'RE LOOKIN FOR ME...I'M AT THE SCRIP CLUB WITH PACMAN......AND WE'RE BEING REBELLION!!
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 27, 2009 8:41 PM CST reply actions
yep
and I love it. Why not groom your HC in waiting? JG learning on the fly, why not bring in someone with a ton of success in the NFL?
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 28, 2009 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
Jerry is up to his old tricks again
Hiring coordinators instead of letting the head coach do it. Interfering because he cannot help himself.
This is prototypical Jerry. He is, sadly, Cowboys fans’ worst enemy. He wants to win so badly that he has this GM-Turret’s Syndrome that manifests itself in these wild reflexive acts of incoherent behavior. He cannot help but interfere to the point of team-implosion.
Instead of firing Jed Clampett, he hires Mr. Drysdale to watch over him?
Ridiculous. The team is becoming a laughing stock, if it wasn’t already.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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