Dan Reeves = Football Guy
by Rafael Vela on Jan 27, 2009 11:28 PM CST
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PrintTo all those clamoring for Jerry Jones to "bring in a football guy," here you go. The team is apparently negotiating with Dan Reeves to serve as a consultant.
What role will a consultant have? Whatever the team feels necessary. Reeves served in an advisory capacity to Texans owner Bob McNair after the Texans fell to 2-14 during the '05 campaign. Reeves was recruited in December of '05 and observed the team, broke down film, met with then HC Dom Capers and GM Charlie Casserly and reported to McNair.
It's not clear what Reeves told McNair, but the team fired Capers immediately after the season and replaced Casserley after the next April's draft. Reeves had a hand in hiring current HC Gary Kubiak.
Reeves' breadth and depth of experience means he could be utilized in a number of ways. He might evaluate the team's personnel, and give another opinion heading into the off-season. This would not be a novel practice for the Cowboys. Bill Parcells used to invite former Packers GM Ron Wolf to visit training camp every August and give an independent assessment of the roster. He also brought in former coach Chuck Fairbanks and asked him to do the same. Parcells wanted personnel eyes he trusted to ensure he was not fooling himself about his teams' strengths and weaknesses. Reeves might perform a similar task this year.
Reeves could also perform assessments of the team's game plans and preparation methods, meaning he could offer feedback to Jason Garrett and to long time friend Wade Phillips. This relationship makes the hire appealing. Phillips served as Reeves' DC in both Denver and Atlanta, and provides the least threatening, and yet valued voice the team could hire.
Is Dallas Waiting on a DC?
I talked to Dave over the weekend about the Cowboys' easy-going search for Brian Stewart's replacement. We both wondered if there is a coach on either the Cardinals or the Steelers staff whom the Cowboys might approach for the spot?
A quick review of defensive position coaches shows two names who might fit the bill. Cardinals LB coach Bill Davis worked with Wade Phillips in Atlanta and helped him set up the 3-4 scheme for Dan Reeves. I don't know if the multi-year vet is coordinator material but he's as good a guess as any.
The Steelers DB coach Ray Horton has Cowboys ties. He was Dallas' starting free safety on Jimmy Johnson's first teams. He's had a long career coaching secondaries in Washington, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. He can take credit for developing Troy Polamalu, which speaks well of his coaching skills.
Again, I'm doing nothing but thinking out loud, but with no news on this hire, I encourage you to offer other candidates.
Trivia: The Cardinals' staff could be Tuna West. Todd Haley (OC) Freddie Kitchens (TEs) and Maurice Carthon (RBs) all worked for Bill Parcells in Dallas. Add Clancy Pendergast, who served for Dave Campo, and you have a heavily Cowboys' flavor to that sideline.
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An old business adage describes a consultant as .....
an outsider paid to tell you what you already know but don’t want to admit.
This could be the beginning of a more conservative and systematic approach to running this team like the for profit entity it is.
I love Jerry’s wildcatter tendencies, that chutzpah went a long way to building the 90s dynasty. But it is time to put away childish things and instill discipline, pride, and teamwork in our team. With the talent we have we could be a multi year championship favorite, first we gotta stop being America’s drama team.
I vote yes for an old school advisor. I still want JG as the next coach. Young enough for the “new breed” players and with the maturity and intelligence to get the tough jobs accomplished.
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In regards to the DC
JFE had an article up over the weekend saying that Manusky might be the guy and that he had already been fired by the team. She amended her story and said the 49ers had responded and said he was still a part of their staff. She then added that sources were still indicating that his firing was imminent.
I don’t know how much substance this story really has, but what’s your opinion on Manusky Raf?
I was not aware that Manusky was on the outs
if that is the case, he’s clearly the guy.
Understand that Manusky, who was Wade’s LB coach at San Diego, was his first choice to come to Dallas and be the DC. During the lull, when the Cowboys were still trying to decide between Wade and Norv Turner, Manusky was hired by the 49ers to be their DC.
Stewart was the fall back option, but Manusky was the guy he really, really wanted.
If you want the best, most up to date source on Manusky, check out Matt Maiocco’s blog at the Santa Rosa Press-Democrat. He’s the best ’Niners beat writer and I followed his posts religiously two years ago when Norv was in the running here.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 28, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
Having scanned Maiocco's posts the past two months,
I don’t see a word about defensive changes. Now, the Niners are going through many, many OC candidates, but why would they wait if they were going to pursue a new DC? Doesn’t make sense for them to wait. They’re not in the Super Bowl. They’ve been interviewing OC candidates since the first week this month.
Why do nothing on defense?
by Rafael Vela on Jan 28, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions
Raf, we should adopt the Pee Wee' Playhouse game of the secret word
like for this site we could adopt the word “sources” everytime a comment has that word the follwoing reply should be typed:
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
I feel that is what the stories we get about the team that are based off of sources are doing to some of us during the offseason.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
DC
Seriously what is going on with DC opening?
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
You know, I don't see it, RE: Manusky
The 49ers are turning over staff.
Why would Mike Singletary spend the last month interviewing a dozen or so OC candidates and ZERO on the defensive side of the ball, if his intention is to change the coaching on both sides of the equation?
If he wanted a new DC, he would have fired Manusky when he cut Martz loose and have DC guys coming in. The Senior Bowl is over.
You never say never, but this makes no sense.
I am going to assume
like everyone else we are stuck with the Hillbilly Clown for one more year. I have said in several posts if you guarantee me Cowher after next year I will put up with one more year of mediocrity. It should take just one more year to complete the stripping of organizational discipline Parcells instilled, then we can start all over again. We now have a good idea for a consultant, however, we still have the same coach. Reeves is polishing brass on the Titanic.
All that said, Keith Butler, Pittsburgh’s linebacker’s coach as DC.
1. Streamlines the transition of bringing Cowher in
2. Lebeau will be DC until he retires and when he does, Butler would take over. That
says alot about the man
3. The high level of play the Steelers have shown at the linebacker position is inviting
Still not sold...
If Reeves is simply being brought in to provide an indepedent assement of football operations and this is an accepted practice with some of the better teams, then fine. But if some of the reports are to be believed that Reeves will take over mid-season if Wade’s team doesn’t get the job done, then I have a problem with it. What kind of message does this send to the players? It’s already widely perceived that Wade won’t coach in 2010. This just cements his lame duck status. And why does Reeves get credit for being a true “football guy”? What, and Wade isn’t? He’s lived and breathed this stuff his whole life. So did Garrett and most of the other coaches for that matter. Not buying it.
Football Guy
in terms of someone not on the sidelines being in the front office evaluating procedures
Is this a new position?
So what, now we have “Owner/GM”; “Head Coach”; “Assistant Head Coach”; and now “Football Guy”? Sorry for the sarcasm. My point is that ever since Bill left, there has been sentiment that we need an experienced and tested ‘football man’ involved with running the team. Bill had that moniker, and it was never challenged. Many believe that Jerry owes more of his sucess to the teachings of PT Barnum than Vince Lombardi. And Wade is soft, Garrett is in over his head, etc, etc… I just want to call bull on that. These are all football men, through and through. Any suggestion that Reeves fills a huge void because he, unlike the others, is a true football guy is malarky.
by Boundforbeach on Jan 28, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed
It’s just another football guy for JJ to rule over and ignore
Well The Pats have:
Director of Player Personnel: Nick Caserio – who is Stephen Jones for the Cowvboys
Senior Football Advisor: Floyd Reese whom they just hired – Cowboys don’t have a position similar to this.
Doesn’t the Senior Football Advisor title sound like a “Football Guy” title?
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
Right. Reeves will probably get a title like that...
And I’m not suggesting this isn’t a need on the team. But if this title is just a pretext to later annoit Reeves the HC, then I do have a problem. Caserio and Reese will never coach the Pats, even if Bellicheat were to resign tomorrow.
BTW, why do you have so much institutional knowledge of the Pats? mmmm… mmmm?
by Boundforbeach on Jan 28, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
Hahah nice try Bound
I listen to Sports Radio to and from work and heard the Pat’s just hired Reese.
So I used this wonderful tool called the internet to look up their execs. :)
cow_fanatic,
I have a little more faith in Jerrah than you do.
And yes if Jerrah continues to keep the GM title he can ignore Reeves. But I don’t believe he is bringing him in just to pay and ignore him, Jerrah is too shrewd of a businessman to waste money like that. I am speculating that he is bringing Reeves for a different point of view/angle to help him make decisions.
Or maybe just help in the developement of Romo, as I have speculated in another thread.
And if you haven’t noticed I love calling him Jerrah.
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by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 29, 2009 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
Oh and I fogot to add
I do agree with you Bound that if Reeves is being brought in to be future HC then that is troubling to me too. I am hoping that is just a rumor or media speculation.
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by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
You understand sarcasm?
Reeves is a football guy.
So is Phillips. I’m been mocking this line of argument for a while now and still think
it’s silly.
As for the “institutional discipline that Parcells brought” comment up thread, I have to
say, huh? Consecutive 9-7s his last two years. Awful special teams his last two years.
December collapses his last two years. Downright AWFUL offseasons in that span.
Look at 2006. A complete washout, in the draft and in free agency. And those, with
the notable exception of T.O., were all Parcells’ moves.
THIS is the type of 20-200 hindsight that makes me roll my eyes. When people can’t
even get HINDSIGHT right, its amazing.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 28, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Raf, these guys are set in their ways and will not change unless they see the changes they feel
that need to be made; what changes, the list is extensive and a lot of it is tied to the intangibles that cannot be measured. We all know this is frustrating for us as fans but these guys you are trying to reach are dead set in their stance that the 09 season is nigh if big changes are not made. Do not spend your time trying to convince them otherwise, if they lose hope let them, I have lost no sleep over people who are so certain that next year is over before TC even begins.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Sorry Raf... I'm to stoopid
Guess my ex-wife was right
by Boundforbeach on Jan 28, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Organizational discipline
Apparently I need to define what I mean before anyone else attempts to do it for me. I don’t define organizational discipline based on wins and losses, nor do I believe Parcells didn’t make mistakes. But there was a level of consistency and structure that we don’t have now.
You think a coach that holds players accountable and is disciplined in his day to day structure allows these unnamed sources to talk as much as apparently have been? You think Parcells would put up with a retired football player with a reality TV show assign a player to his TC roster? You think
Parcells would make a joke out of himself in a Pepsi commercial?
Parcells took a 1-15 team, hired the head coaches and probably had a lot to say about the assembled staff, gutted the personnel and turned them in to a division winner in one year. Again, I’m not measuring organization discipline based on wins and losses, but he can obviously run an organization. He’s done it everywhere he’s been.
78, I have hope that next year we win a Superbowl and if we do, you can burn me at the stake for asking for Wade’s head. But you, as a fan, cannot possibly go in to next season with the same head coach and believe the odds are not stacked against us. There’s a lot of offseason left which I believe will give us hope in other ways. I like the idea of Reeves involved bbut let’s more baout that when he is actually hired and his role is defined.
But the guy who is making final calls on gameday is still here and I anticipate the same inconsistency we saw all last year.
by cow_fanatic on Jan 28, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
I am not asking you to change your stance, I am asking those who are trying to convince you
to change your stance to stop. I am in no way trying to impede on anyone’s opinion, I am just offering some advise to commenters who feel frustration at the level of doom and gloom. So just to let you know now, I have no stakes ready to burn anyone if dallas has a successful year in 09. My opinion on the team is to reserve judgement on the team’s future until I see tangible proof and it will start in the draft but will be more evident in TC as to how prepared this team will be.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Sorry I forgot to say not just you but anyone who has a stance that says 09 is bleak
before TC has even started.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Very little gloom and doom...
I don’t think anyone in these threads are writing off the ’09 season. Voicing concern over personnel and front office concerns does not mean we have abandoned hope, and there is nothing wrong with debating it.
It’s sort of like that Seinfeld episode when Jerry and the naked guy are on the subway talking about all the problems in the Mets organization. After they’re done talking, naked guy asks Jerry… “so do you like their chance?” He responds “I love their chances…” Same thing.
by Boundforbeach on Jan 28, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yep very sad
All of Parcells’ guys are everywhere but where they should be, here in Dallas. I mean, what was the point of building a foundation with Parcells, if all we were going to do is rip it apart? Where was the call for continuity back when Parcells decided to bail?
"Confidence doesn't come out of nowhere. It's a result of something... hours and days and weeks and years of constant work and dedication." --Roger Staubach
You can't have continuity
when the head coach leaves. It would have been nice, in hindsight, to promote from within since it is painfully obvious Parcells can put a staff together. Wade’s staff is being axed left and right which leads to another conclusion about the Hillbilly Clown. You think a staff put together by Parcells if left intact would have been conducives in dealing with Wade as a HC? The entire Parcells staff would have walked out on Wade
umm...which is usually why when a HC leaves, his staff goes with him...
Tuna is gone….Tuna has no prints on this team..Long live the Tuna
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 28, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, where was that call?
I seem to remember a lot of people who were ready for him to leave before he left.
I was not happy, because I felt the job was not finished, but hey, if a guy wants to
leave, you can’t make him stay.
There was ZERO call for any of Parcells’ guys to stay. None. It’s nice that Kitchens
is in a Super Bowl, but John Garrett is a much better TE coach than he is. Nobody
seemed awfully impressed with Maurice Carthon when he was here. One year
ago everybody was screaming for Garrett to stay, because his ‘07 offense was so
much better than Haley and Sparano’s ’06 one.
Where was that call?
by Rafael Vela on Jan 28, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Thank you Raf, Well said.
Most of these guys were being dumped on while they were here. Now they have left they are suddenly geniuses.
Agree
And Wade’s staff is “being axed left and right”? Not so much. A demoted DC and unsuccessful ST coach are the only 2 by my count.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jan 28, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
The defensive coordinator and special teams coach
One is the axed left, the other is the axed right. Those positions Wade assigned to those two are somewhat important.
Guilty as charged. I was one of the ones dumping on Parcells staff, that’s why it’’s hindsight.
I am absolutely amazed
at the excitement Dan Reeves has brought. I personally think this is like inviting grandpa over to fix a VCR in the front room while you watch dirty movies in HD in the backroom. Reeves is way out of touch with the current players. But if some media and fans will shut up about needing some football guy, then I’m all for it. I feel that Jerry is a football guy by now, how many GM’s have 20 years experienced. Whether he is a good football guy is the question.
But like I said, if it makes you feel better, then I’m all for it. It won’t hurt unless he brings back the wishbone.
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
Out of touch
with “current players”? What does that mean? He doesn’t listen to hip-hop?
Reeves can put a pair of experienced “football guy” eyeballs on players, scheme, coaching, drafting, the whole nine yards. He doesn’t need to get “in touch” with current players to assess whether they are in touch with the game of football.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
the guy
hasnt been in the NFL for 6 years. Has he been watching game film at the house? My main point is to the guys that say that Reeves will bring discipline. So, if that were the case he would have to interact with the players. That would not be a strength that he brings.
But again, I don’t care that he’s here. It’s great. He can share memories with Calvin Hill over warm milk every night.
It’s fine.
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
Reeves has been in football in the last 6 years
he did something in Houston in 2005. He’s doing something again in Dallas now in 2008
by AustonianAggie on Jan 28, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
He obviously didn't read the 2nd paragraph in Raf's post
cmr3 is just a negative nancy here to complain about everything
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by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
I really don't call a 2 month film watching session back in the league
and for the “negative nancy” comment, what am I being negative about? I am completely malevolent on Reeves being a consultant. It dones’t hurt anything. But it certainly doesn’t changed the discipline of the team, like many have suggested.
Also, “Game Recognize Game” and “negative nancy” don’t go together. One Deion says, the other my wife says. but if your pretty ricky I guess you can be tricky.
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
If it doesn't hurt anything then why don't we withhold judgement on it
until the whole thing pans out.
I have stated this in other posts that a consultant to question and offer feedback on Jerry’s decisions is a good thing to me. Does experience no longer have any value? That’s what I think Reeves is bringing to the table experience and a different point of view.
I do not fall into the category of “others” who think he might be being brought in to be a disciplinarian. Discipline should be administered by the coaches and leaders of this team. I do believe that leadership is lacking but that doesn’t necessarily mean that is what reeves is being brought in to do. We all have our own opinions and speculations but I see many jumping to various negative conclusions knowing nothing more than I do. Reeves is being considered for a consulting position.
Perhaps I am wearing rose colored glasses but those glasses help me “Recognize Game”. Your wife must be a wonderful lady to also use the phrase “negative nancy”. Has she called you that also? I kid I kid
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by pretty ricky on Jan 29, 2009 7:28 AM CST up reply actions
Better stick
to the words you understand.
I am completely malevolent on Reeves being a consultant. It dones’t hurt anything.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
sorry
was that not in context?
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
no it was not
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 31, 2009 7:29 AM CST up reply actions
My olive branch to you cmr3
is I do love the Tyson quote.
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by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Let me tell you who is out of touch!
Its the freaking players that are out of touch. These douche bag primma donnas are more worried about marketing and “getting mine” than busting their asses and sacrificing stats for the good of the team.
Lets take a look at the best teams this year and previous years. Old school, Belichek, Parcells, Coughlin, Del Rio, Whizenhunt, Tomlin, Dungy(yes Dungy, he is quiet but he carries a hammer)Cowher ect.
Very Interesting RAF
Bill Davis seems to be the guy to me from what RAF was saying…
How do you know Reeves is out of touch with current players?
People keep saying this but based on what his age? Show me a link, article, quote that leads you to believe he is out of touch.
And as for needing a football guy scroll up a bit and see where I posted that the Pats have a Senior Football Advisor. Screams football guy to me.
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You are talking to a brick wall, these guys will not change their opinion unless they see the changes
they feel that need to be made. Just leave them to their stance and if they lose hope that is their choice, do no frustrate yourself by trying to reason with them.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
His age has nothing to with it
He hasn’t been in the league for 6 years. That’s a long time in the NFL. Like I said, I don’t think this will have any impact. If it brings a extra heart beat to a Cowboy’s fan, then it doesn’t hurt.
I would be more interested in a new strength and conditioning coach.
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
So the Pats needed a football guy?
I guess Belechik is not a football guy?
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
I don't care what you call him
Senior Football Adviser or Grand Poobaa of Tiddleywinks. My point is other organizations with a track record of making good personnel decisions have positions that serve the purpose as a consultant/adviser. Which as far as I know “consultant” is the only thing I have heard that Reeves id definitely being considered for. I use the term “Football Guy” because that’s the term that is being tossed about and happens to be in the subject of this thread.
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by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Not touting Reese
Just trying to get everybody to understand that the position that Reeve’s is being considered for exists in other organizations.
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by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Yes it does. If it will be a consultant position like Raf suggested then I am all for it.
If you guys keep on holding on to the hope that he can somehow bring discipline to this team or he will some how walk in and everyone will bow down in respect for the highly accomplished coach then pass whatever you are smoking this way. He has been out of the game for a while and even when he was smack dab in the middle of it he was never considered an offensive genius from my recollections. (The dude had Elway for the majority of his career and could never seal the deal. it took a young ,innovative fresh mind to get them over that hump) Like i posted yesterday, these guys in this locker room will not be impressed that he lost 5 superbowls,sorry. And unless he is the coach of this team he will lack any requisite juice to make them behave,sure he can come in and give a fire and brimstone speech ,but does anyone think that will make any sort of difference to this team. I hope Raf is right about his potential positions as I believe that may be the only beneficial use for the guy. And as far as Houston is concerned they have been rebuilding longer than we have and i’d say we are currently quite a bit better than they are. My.02.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
stoproyce buddy
The only “fact” that I know of is that Reeves is being considered for a “consultant” position. To me everything else is media speculation. So why assume and argue that he is going to be anything more than that?
And when you say “you guys” I have never said that he was brought in to be a disciplinarian just a consultant (check my posts from our banter yesterday) and have only speculated as to what capacity that position of a consultant would be.
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by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
We Should Be Happy
I don’t know what is the downside on this possibility. Reeves clearly has put together successful football teams throughout his career. It makes me feel good that someone who has so much history with this franchise, as a player then an assistant coach under Tom Landry no less, is willing to put himself out there to try to fix the problems on this team.
You listen to all the so-called experts and media sellouts from ESPN give their opinions 24-7. We all b and moan about this. But here is a guy that is willing to come back and try to fix the problems. Here is a former Cowboys player/coach that wants to help. He didn’t go out there on television and talk bad about the organization like Keyshawn Johnson does on a regular basis. He just put himself out there and is willing to help Wade try to fix this. Nothing wrong with this in my opinion.
Consultants
Besides the Tex-endorsed Dan Reeves, the Cowboys need to consider three additional “consultants”….
1. A Life Coach for Tony Romo. For a soon-to-be 29 year old, this fascination with loose woman, tabloids, hi-profile vacations, late-night parties, and superficial stardom will not have a happy ending. Romo needs to discover a greater life purpose. The slipper-fingered signal caller needs to discover the arts, intellectual pursuits, and world-conscience woman… all with a eye towards community service. Now is the time for change.
2. A Fitness Guru for the pear-shaped QB. For a professional athlete, putting on a soft two pounds per month isn’t helpful, see 20 pounds since he signed his new contract. The kid broke his finger in 2008 because he was carrying around too much baggage and couldn’t escape a beleaguered Cardinal rusher. Brady, Aikman, and others who care about being the best have all been dedicated to fitness. Romo appears to be dedicated to drinks with umbrellas, chili cook-offs, and late-night buffets. Cancel a film session and have Tony read T.O.s new book at the very least.
3. A Sports Psychologist for Jackie Smith Tony Romo. Granted Romo may never recover from the Seattle Slip… that may have been the most insightful glimpse into his fragile psyche. John Van de Velde never recovered, other famous chokes disappeared from society, and Donnie Moore shot himself. The organization can’t sweep Romo’s “make up” under the rug any longer. There are some great sports psychologists out there who can help the best quarterback never to win a playoff game.
sad to say but i agree with Tex on this . None of those suggestions would be bad for Tony or this team.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
Some OLD guys who I think haven't lost touch with current players
Monte Kiffin -68 now with his son in college but coached this season
Tom Coughlin -62 till this Sunday is the current reining Super Bowl coach
Dick Lebeau -71 He is coaching the #1 defense this year and is in the Super Bowl
Jim Johnson -67 the Ealges D coordinator who spanked the boys
Bill Parcells is currently 67 which puts him at about 62 when he started with the Cowboys in 2003
Not saying Reeves isn’t out of touch, just saying let’s not jump to conclusions based on his age. Isn’t that age prejudice/discrimination or something?
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how did our own 70 year old do last year? hudson houck lighting a fire under our offensive line,epic fail imho.
its not about being ageist its about someone,anyone getting through to these knuckleheads and maybe bringing some innovation to the table. Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone was casing our innovation instead of us chasing and making our own adjustments. That kind of innovation rarely comes from the establishment and sorry all of the dudes mentioned above including reeves are very much the establishment. I will give lebeau and johnson props for keeping their defenses fresh but i believe that has as much to do with their talent as anything.Not that we are getting much innovation from Garrett.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
I think LeBeau definitely deserves huge credit. How many times have the Steelers reloaded their linebacker corps?
Anybody heard from Kendrell Bell or Clark Haggans lately?
Hey all I am asking is to judge the guy by his achievements
and not make assumptions based on his age when there are clearly some old dudes who are still getting the job done.
You want innovation? I agree with ya stoproyce reeves isn’t gonna bring innovation but I don’t think that’s what he is being brought in to do. Innovation should be implemented by the coaching staff. I think he is being brought in for a different perspective, offer his opinions, and make suggestions as a consultant. It’s then up to Jerry and/or the coaches to make decisions on wether or not to put those suggestions into action. Again my opinion is based on him being brought in as a consultant not in any coaching capacity. We are both in agreement that reeves as a coach should not be an option and I truly hope Jerry doesn’t go that route.
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by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
I think Reeves role might be the HAMMER.
We have to manyaw shucks we will get them next im/ dont hurt their feelings guys. We need an asshole in the house. A guy who doesnt need to be liked. A guy in charge of fining, disipline. A guy to call guys out in the media but not be in the locker room. I know this is expected of the HC and GM buts thats just not Wade or JJ. Let Reeves be the whipping/whipper boy. Players can bitch all they want about him he is not in the locker room. He in turn can run around lighting fires. He can spar with players in the media and coaches can coach. It would be neat to see if this role can work. Not to mention some unbiased eyes around.
That's an interesting take
You can’t undermind the coach any more than JJ has so Reeves doing it would be par for the course. JJ wants to be the player’s friend so Reeves could be the Hammer. I like it. The GM in San Diego seems to be an a-hole and they’re doing okay for themselves. But is Reeves that type of person or would we be asking him to change like we expect Wade to overnight?
Reeves might also offer the moral support to Wade to come down on guys
Wade doesn’t seem like a natural hard-ass maybe with some Reeves proding he will be so for the right players
by AustonianAggie on Jan 28, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
squidlo does that sound like a consultant to you?
Cause it doesn’t to me. So i reiterate that all we know right now is that Reeves is being considered as a consultant. Consultants make suggestions and let the organization decide wether or not to act on those suggestions.
That being said Jerry could come out tomorrow and say that Reeves has been appointed the Dean of Discipline and adminisiter 30 lashings to anybody who speaks to the media. But right now all I hear or know of is consultant.
Game Recognize Game
by pretty ricky on Jan 28, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Call it what you like, Im just interested if something like that could work.
We just have too many back slappers and not enough ass kickers. Besides its a consultant until a role is actually definedt and he himself finds his niche. Im sure it will start in the offseason with evaluations of players coaches scouts secretaries mascots and anyone else on the payrole. Then when the seasons starts maybe enforcer,
I nominate
our new special teams coach, Reeves’ son-in-law, to be the guy who gets in faces on the sideline. Reeves is more valuable as the guy to holler at the higher-ups.
I like Dan Reeves. Always have. He has a lot to bring to the team (always has), and I am glad he is willing to bring it.
For the Cowboys, Dan is family.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
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