The Last Time Dallas Had a Football Guy in Charge...
by Rafael Vela on Jan 28, 2009 11:10 AM CST
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Printwas 2006. Bill Parcells had near total control over free agency and full sway over the draft. In the interest of beating up on one of my favorite canards, I offer a look at what a "real football guy" did for Dallas in his last go round:
Let’s revisit that‘06 off-season, shall we? All of it, NFL free agents, draft picks and undrafted free agents. Let’s see if Jerry 2.0 really looks that bad by comparison.
Let’s recall that the ‘06 Cowboys entered the offseason frustrated. They had been big free agent spenders in ‘05 adding Anthony Henry, Jason Ferguson and Marco Rivera for tens of millions in signing bonuses. They had a great draft, headed by Demarcus Ware, Chris Canty, Marion Barber and Jay Ratliff. They also made a significant futures pickup in RT Marc Colombo.
But Dallas entered the year short at right tackle and at safety. When Flozell Adams injured a knee and Rivera injured his back the offensive line collapsed. Dallas’ lack of a free safety saw it up big pass plays by the handful.
In ‘06, Dallas went smaller, for the most part. Instead of big deals, it handed out a lot of medium sized ones — with one exception: a malcontent from Philadelphia named Terrell Owens. That one was put on Jerry Jones’ head. Here was the player he forced on Parcells. The guy who would destroy the locker room.
You know, the guy who kept that off-season from being a complete failure.
Look at the remaining free agent deals:
- Kyle Kosier, LG, Detroit;
- Akin Ayodele, LB, Jacksonville;
- Jason Fabini, RT, Jets;
- Mike Vanderjagt, K, Indianapolis;
- Rocky Boiman, LB, Tennessee;
- Ryan Hannam, TE, Seattle;
- Marcus Coleman, S, Houston
A lot of bucks, spread out over seven contracts, but very little bang. Kosier has been a steady Eddie at left guard. Fabini could not beat out Colombo. Hannam languished on the bench before tearing a knee ligament and landing on I.R. Boiman suffered a gruesome finger injury, was cut, and eventually wound up on the champion Colts. Coleman was charged with DUI and was released in December.
The most frustrating signee was Vanderjagt. The socially-challenged kicker spent a lonely camp shanking kicks and blaming a dead leg. He then went through an erratic half season before he was canned.
Ayodele looked like the defensive version of Kosier, a solid if unspectacular player who filled a need. He regressed badly in ‘07, logging only 57 tackles in a scheme that funnels traffic towards the inside backers and strong safety. His trade means that Dallas has only two starters to show from an eight-deep free agent spree.
That offseason looks worse when you add the draft to it. Eight players and no starters, though 3rd rounder Jason Hatcher may eventually get his shot. With Anthony Fasano’s trade, only Hatcher, Bobby Carpenter, Pat Watkins and Pat McQuistan remain. Carpenter and McQuistan are down to their last shots, and neither looks like he will ever start. Watkins is a lost cause. Skyler Green, Montavious Stanley and E.J. Whitley were early dropouts.
The most productive rookies besides Hatcher were undrafted free agents Sam Hurd, Miles Austin and Oliver Hoyte. Hoyte was the only rookie to start in ‘06 and only after Fasano failed his first audition as the U-back. Hoyte was converted from inside backer to fullback and took Fasano’s spot.
Hurd is rehabbing an injured ankle that put him on IR at mid-season. Austin, the UFA from Monmouth, may be the only quality player from an absolute loser of a draft class.
When you sift through this dross, it is not hard to see why the ‘06 Cowboys flailed to another 9-7 record. Aside from Jerry’s Kid Terrell and Kosier, the team got no significant help from the other 14 free agents and draftees.
Compare that to Jerry 2.0’s first offseason, when he scored with Leonard Davis and Ken Hamlin and was able to retain every rookie from the first non-Tuna draft. His '08 draft was even better, adding RBs Felix Jones and Tashard Choice, and CBs Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick, along with the enigmatic Martellus Bennett.
Can you blame Jerry for trading Ayodele and Fasano last April and trying to get as far away from that '06 offseason class as possible? To paraphrase Roy Clark and the late Buck Owens, if it weren’t for T.O. the Cowboys would have had no offseason luck at all that year. Gloom, despair and agony indeed.
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Nice Hee Haw Reference, Raf!
I believe that da King 2.0 has learned a lot and improved as GM when it comes to drafting and FA acquisitions.
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unfortunately
he hasn’t learned how to operate a football team as a GM. there is two sides to that coin. you can amass talent but what you do with it is important. the talent is as good as the result on the field and the result says we were a 9-7 team. same as the 06 team.
if you look at every successful NFL team, you can point to a specific year that they hit the jackpot in off season and draft and since players last 4 or 5 years, they have success for 4 or 5 years. everyone of those teams have also had a year when they missed on everything and then purged and reloaded and lived through it.
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 28, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
so true, so true
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"What you do with it is important" you said
That is the duty of the coaches not the GM. Jerry has done a fine job as GM, the Coaches are the ones screwing up!
You're right, BW. However, the GM needs to hire the right coach, as well, sir...
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but you forget
the GM is responsible to hire the coaches and a bad example is when you hire an OC before you hire your head coach. that already disrespects the coach. then in the second year, you think you made a mistake and hope the OC leaves after making him the highest paid OC (more than some head coaches) in the NFL.
the GM also has to understand lines of command and responsibility and when he becomes the conduit players use to by pass coaches then it creates leadership and locker room and TEAM problems.
Jerry think you can win with Talent alone, where it has been proven over and over again that TEAM wins not talent. in that case, Jerry has failed to build a TEAM. he has amassed a nice GROUP of players together. that doesn’t make you a good GM
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 28, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
I completely agree.
The sad thing is JJ has his own chain of command that not only he understands very well, but he makes sure everyone else does, as well. It goes JERRY, then everyone else…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Jan 29, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
and
another area BP could never fix was the FG kicker situation, which JJ solved in his first draft af BP left. I like Jerry in the draft room/FA signings, i just wish he’d let the coaches handle dicipline as they see fit and quit allowing Dallas and it’s players to get involved in reality tv shows.
BP wasn't without fault
but he knew how to put a team together. he missed on the kicker and that’s why jerry spent 2 mill for the stupid one. we lucked out on the kicker having drafted one that worked out. if your recall we brought in another veteran (name escapes me) to make sure we have one in folk.
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 28, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry spent the $2M
but Parcells picked him.
You might recall Bill offering some fluffy rationale that he didn’t pursue Vinatieri because he was a New England player and those Parcells guys don’t mess with each other’s players.
What douchey reasoning; oh, those kooky "Parcells guys"
But I guess it’s fine to play patty cake with a divisional rival’s powers that be hours before a big game so that you can line up your next job.
The media gives Parcells credit for everthing
And blame for nothing. He can’t do anything wrong. Even in Miami, the belief is that Parcells is running the entire show, even influencing Sparano; even if it isn’t true, the media finds nothing wrong with this. Of course, when Jerry gets accused of sticking his nose into the coach’s business, he gets harassed by the media..
It's like JJ is the TO of NFL GM's, he cannot win for losing but at the same time likes the spotlight
even though he wants to win he wants it on his terms; now that is an eery correlation.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
I know what I just wrote is an oversimplification but let's do a quick comparrison:
both of them are very competative, they work hard, they love to attract and have the spotlight, they both do things that bring the wrong kind of attention, they both explore other areas of exposure to expand their world (TO writes a book, JJ brings in Hard Knocks, this year TO does a Reality TV and JJ argees to let the playmaker tie in a reality show) and they both want to be successful. The attention they generate more often than not is seen as a negative in the DMN and msm (JJ is too involved and wants a circus, TO is all about himself as examples). They also attact media coverage just by showing up to an event (JJ at a band’s afterparty and TO at sundance (I think that was the one where he was with two girls)).
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Maybe Jerry should become Hugh Hefner
I like this comparison with Jerry and TO, but maybe Jerry should take a page from Hugh Hefner.
Someone who is the face and figure head of the organization, throws all the parties, has some small say in the organization, but the organization is really run by his child.
I like Jerry and most of what he does, but that comparison just came to mind. I bet Stephen is showing Jerry re-runs of the Girls Next Door right now.
as he should
as an owner and president he is awsome. as a GM he has flaws. before BP jerry didn’t know how to draft, didn’t trust his staff and his scouts and didn’t know how to work the draft. he learned a lot from BP and that’s how we stock piled talent over time. everyone may point to 06 as a bad draft, but we had several good ones before that giving us barber, ratliff, canty, ware, etc. BP was never good at brining in FAs, but he brought the ones he trusted to fix the culture in the locker room and teach the others what BP expected since he didn’t have time to do that himself (much faster this way).
Jerry the GM has a fault in sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong. you brought the talent in, let the coaches run the team and support your coach instead of creating a circus atmosphere because the president and owner see marketing $s.
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 28, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Most of your points are on the money
but if you look at BP’s many draft and free agent errors, they are precisely because HE didn’t trust his scouts. The Rivera and Henry FA gaffes, Parcells’ dismissal of Bert Berry, who wanted to play for Dallas, his drafting of Rogers and Peterman in ‘04 are just some of the examples of Bill overruling his scouts’ ratings.
I wouldn't say Henry is a FA gaffe
he’s been pretty good, what we wanted
by AustonianAggie on Jan 28, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
well, lets examine those
Rivera was a probowl player. he dealt with a back injury, unexpected back injury happening in off season and after than he was never the same. Otherwise he was one heck of OG in GB. that was not BP’s fault, since that type of back injury has ended many a carreers including our own Darren Woodson.
Henry hasn’t been a bust. before henry we spent a ton of picks and FAs money to cover the CB spot. Henry hasn’t been a bust. he has been a good pick up, the problem is he has dealth with a lot of injuries and he didn’t have a history before that. Also don’t forget henry wasn’t a parcells pick because parcells wanted him. he trusted his scouts and his former coach, since he was recommended by his former position coach.
yes he failed in drafting of rogers and peterman. but he also succeeded in other draft picks. if you are going to blame him for those picks. give him credit for the good ones too. I did a post on draft success for cowboys, vs. new england, vs. rams, vs AZ over the past parcells era and they were eerily similar in the number of players and impact players still with each team and in the NFL. the point being most often you hit at 50% mark over several years of drafting and if you do, you have done well.
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 28, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
The problem is that there were better players available,
for about the same price and Parcells went with the guys he wanted. Not the guys that the scouts were touting. Guys like CB Ken Lucas and OG Mike Wahle were both considered better players, signed for about the same amount, and were younger and yet Parcells went with Rivera and Henry.
I don’t think Henry has been a “bust” but I know I was certainly surprised when he was the guy signed that year. There were several big name CB’s that were available that year and the Henry signing came out of nowhere. He was already 28 years old when we signed him and now he’s an injury waiting to happen. He’s been decent but not worth the money IMO.
Also, lets remember that it was Parcells who refused to go after a CB in FA the year before this. He even admitted that he was fooled by the talent on the team and didn’t pursue FA’s like he should have. He didn’t want to pay guys like Antoine Winfield in 2004 and then went out and had to pay Henry even more the next year.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
The worthwhile picks Parcells made in the draft
Don’t seem to be many. There seems to be a consensus that Ware was a Jerry and co pick, and Spears was a Parcells pick. Most of us would care less if Spears stays or not. Gamble would have been a better pick than Spears. Who picked Canty and Marion? Do most of us care whether Canty stays? The jury is still out on Marion. Many people wondered in the offseason whether Marion would be able to carry the load. I didn’t think it was a big deal, but it seems to me it is relevant. They made the rule this season that the same hands-to-the-face rule applies to both offensive and defensive players. Since we say Marion do it so often in ‘07, I wonder how much rule that affected Marion’s numbers. Any why did Marion fumble so much this season? My guess is because he got more caries per game. His last fumble this season was just hilarious.
If Ratliff was a Parcells pick, that seems to me his only good pick. I think Hurd could do a better job than Crayton, who Parcells said had the best hands in the team. Carpenter was picked apparently because Parcells liked his father. Futhermore, Romo was picked by Payton, but I’m not crazy about Romo.
I don't want to trash Parcells
I think I fall on the same side of this issue as Raf. Parcells did a lot of good things while he was here. He also made some poor decisions. Some that are still hurting this team like his inability to draft or sign in FA O-linemen. I prefer to take the broad view of Parcells tenure here and realize that he wasn’t some sort of miracle working god who never made mistakes like some people think. Too many fans have wanted to give Parcells credit for every good decision made in the 4 years he was here, and dump on Jerry for every bad decision made over the same time span. I even got into an argument once on the DMN blog about that. The guy claimed that Jacob Rogers was a Jerry pick and he knew it because Parcells didn’t draft Pac-10 guys. What?? Nonsense.
I’m still of the idea that Parcells came here at the perfect time and that when he left that was also the right time.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
Also Keyshawn, I think.
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
Good question
Of course the guy would have just come back with something like " I meant that Parcells doesn’t draft Pac-10 O-linemen to be right tackles in the NFL. Everyone knows that".
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
not to mention in BP's last game.....
we go to Seattle with Tony Romo, Terry Glenn, TO and Witten and our game plan is to RUN the ball against a team that was so depleted in the secondary that they had signed Pete Hunter from his desk job selling insurance days before the game…..heh
i will always respect what BP did for the franchise and he definitely left it in a lot better shape than when he got there in 2003….but there is no doubt in my mind that it was time to go…
are you so sure?
I think you are thinking of another seattle game. that seattle team made it to the superbowl, and I doubt if it was with pete hunter.
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 28, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
no, McLovin is correct
Seattle went to the SB the previous season, we lost to Seattle the season after they went to the SB.
In Romo we Trust
Yup
I remember being so frustrated they had a back-up corner starting along with Pete Hunter, and I couldn’t understand why they didn’t just continue to go after the corners.
BP too hard headed
BP should have worn out Pete Hunter in that game. IMO they would have beat the Bears the next week and then lost to the Saints again in the NFC championship game. BP did not want to give TO the chance to shine. BP’s biggest fault was being too hard headed.
Mrs. Doubtfire
The Tuna was a turncoat, who never fit in Dallas. That said, he did provide Jerry Jones with a 4-year Ph.D. in Organization Management at a whopping cost of $20 million.
It's the QB Stupid...
Let’s not forget that Mrs. Doubtfire treated Cowboy fans to nearly four years of Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, and Drew Bledsoe.
Adding insult to injury the former Giants coach ran off Emmitt Smith for Troy Hambrick and Eddie George, and disrespected the Great Larry Allen from day one. Both should have been treated with more class, and should have retired Cowboys on their own terms.
The Tuna never cared about the Dallas family; as evidenced by his “illegal” raiding of the coaching staff during the bye week leading up to the Giants playoff game. Oh yeah, it was the Giants game. Benedict Arnold with a bra.
I did not know that. Interesting.
I always thought Jerry was so married to his prodigy Quincy that attempting to win with Quincy may have been a mandate Parcells was handed from the top before he even took the job.
well i think how it went was that Carolina offered Delhomme
a shot at the starting job and Parcells tried to sign Delhomme as Quincy’s backup….and wouldn’t you know it Delhomme leads Carolina to a playoff win over Quincy in his first year in Charlotte
That's kind of what I thought.
But I don’t know how warm Jerry would’ve been to an open QB competition in camp between his manchild prodigy Quincy and this Del Homey dude.
Delhomme wasn't offered starter!!!
and he entered that season as the 3rd QB, but in the first game Rodney Peete was ineffective and the staff skipped over #2 Chriss Winke to insert Delhomme
by AustonianAggie on Jan 28, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, that's right.
I remembered he took over for Peete after about four weeks but forgot all about Weinke; I think almost everybody’s forgotten about him though. Even if that was the case though you can’t tell me Delhomme didn’t at least think he’d have a better shot at starting in Carolina.
he was offered a shot to compete for the starting QB spot in Carolina
in Dallas he was told that he would be Quincy’s backup….the money offered was the same
are you sure?
I thought we offered less.
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 28, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
From what I remember
the Cowboys lowballed Delhomme money wise and wouldn’t guarantee him the chance to compete for the starting job. He got more money, a chance to compete with the Panthers, and he made the most of it. I don’t think he started the season as the starting QB but he sure ended it.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.
I don't think so
it was reported that parcells liked and wanted delhomme. delhomme chose to go to carolina because we weren’t offering him as much money and a longer contract. Jerry didn’t think much of delhomme
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 28, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
If Tuna was fully in charge...
We would have drafted Spears instead of Ware with our first `1 round pick and then we wouldn’t have arguably the best defensive player in the league…
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 28, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
If Parcells
had not draft MB III in the 4th round we wouldn’t have our starting RB
If Parcells had given up on undrafted Tony Romo throughout the first 4 years of his career we wouldn’t have our starting QB. There are examples on both sides, it’s a tired argument
I know that everyone thinks that Jerry demanded that Ware be taken before Spears
but was there any reports at the time that this was the case? Links, if you have them
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Didnt Jimmy Johnson as a nobody College coach run off the great Randy White and Too Tall Jones.
He inherited Quincy and had him lead us too the playoffs who then turn too drugs and had no choice on Testaverde. Had Bledsoe until Romo was ready.
Randy White was going on 36
and started 1 game in 1988 and had 1.5 sacks….not sure if jimmy told him he wasn’t welcome but he retired after the 88 season
too tall played one season for jimmy (1989) at the age of 38….tony tolbert took over towards the end of the season
not fair to say that jimmy ran either one of these guys out of town
wait a minute
like BP said where do you go an get a QB? the good ones get signed for millions by their own team. the draft is a crap shoot at QB past the 15th pick. even some of the top ones don’t work out most of the time. so lets not forget the Jerry traded up to get Quincy Carter. BP inherited him and with that cast managed to go 10-6 and into the playoffs. who else was available in FA other than Bledsoe and Testeverde and both of them were better than pot smoking QC, who had the key to the car and just blew it!!!
lets not forget that Jerry wanted Hutchinson and couple of other baseball players for his QB and even gave up a 3rd round pick for it!!! in the meantime BP developed Romo in the back ground over a 4 year span.
the staff left, left happily. Jerry had a chance to promote Sparano to OC but instead he hired his OC before hiring a coaching staff and forced the OC on the coaching staff? would you have stayed if you were these coaches. so you want to call it a raid, when its inevitable that they will be leaving. so lets not get technical.
Emmitt smith, as much as I love and respect him as a player should have retired before he was forced out. he flamed out in AZ much like dorsett who tried to play past his time, or Favre or Montana, etc.
so you expect a coach to come into a no talent team and keep a 3o something year old RB as a building block of the team? lets not forget that 45 of the players were turned over in less than 2 years.
eddie george was a Jerry signing not a BP signing.
plus BP didn’t disrespect larry allen. he wanted him to excercise differently and change his routine and larry thought he was an idol in dallas and should be above all of that.
and that’s exactly what’s wrong with your statement. you wanted the inmates to run the assylum. you wanted emmitt, allen and older players to run the team not a head coach.
lets not forget that he took us from 5-11 to 10-6 and playoffs and two more winning seasons after that……
by CowboysFanatic on Jan 28, 2009 12:40 PM CST reply actions
Didn't Sparano already have a wink, wink nudge, nudge deal in place with the Dolphins the week of the Giants playoff game?
Ignore Tex’s whining about the Cowboys parting with Emmitt. He isn’t arguing that Emmitt was still a great player; he just wanted to see Emmitt make a circle around Texas stadium carrying a boquet of blue roses in his final game as a pro or some other kind of fairy fangled hokum.
I'd like to see Saparano repeat last season's success
He might just be the next recently fired Man-genius anyway
by AustonianAggie on Jan 28, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
1:06 pm CT 19 May 2006
Tex (MONTECITO TEX)
"Gotta love the critics… just save this post and apologize when Henson emerges as the next great Cowboy QB."
Unfair to simplify BP to 2006
Our starting QB and RB were undrafted and drafted in the 4th round respectively. I have had this debate several times with a guy in my office. There are hits and misses for every team in both the draft and FA. You will not find a single GM who hasn’t made mistakes. You have your Carpenters and your Spears but you also have your Wares, your Wittens in the third, your James in the 4th… I believe Floyd Reece, recently hired by the Patriots drafted Pacman but Reece’s track record isn’t defined by one mistake. Nor should BP be defined by the same
Reese regularly drafted problem players high in the Draft
Albert Hayensworth has his troubles too, and he was drafted around #4, Pacman at like 6, I think there’s another player with character concerns he took that high
by AustonianAggie on Jan 28, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Parcells was either red hot or ice cold
Look at his ’04 offseason. It was almost as barren as his ’06. His ’05 draft, OTOH, was great.
Developing QBs
The Tuna threw millions at fossils, but never gave a fair shake to the only Quarterback in Cowboys history to win every start.
Henson sucks...terribly
Probably the most overrated qb prospect of all time.
BTW, he didn’t win his start, Testeverde did.
In Romo we Trust
Ha, yes Carano was 1-0
by handing off to various Cowboy running backs as they rushed for a team record 354 yards. He threw for 51 yards, or eight fewer yards than Drew Pearson threw on a trick play.
For Tex..
http://www.nypost.com/delonas/delonas.htm
Hilarious..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
Leftovers
Tex was right about the Oprah Winfrey Diet… but the divorced songstress is not alone to her adherence to the buffet. The cartoonist clearly didn’t watch Tony Romo balloon before our eyes this season as well.
by Montecito Tex on Jan 28, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Too funny!
I guess we’ll find out just how in love Tony is. She’s got that 4 kids in her 40’s look going on.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jan 28, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
Hilarious, but I do like this one of her now
Check out da link.
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I like this one...
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That winter hibernation weight can be lost…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Jan 28, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Those days are long gone, my friend
That was just the hotness of youth, plain and simple.
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on Jan 28, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
haha I hate to add ANY more time to this argument,
But if’s there one thing I’ve learned in this day and age, money can buy anything. And if anyone comes at me with the “money can’t buy happiness” cliche, then give it to me because you aren’t spending it right…
by AikmanNailedMySis on Jan 29, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Raf, to be fair . . .
Parcells greatest gift and legacy to the Cowboys was the replacement of Larry Lacewell and the wholesale revamping of the Cowboys scouting staff, no? Jerry isn’t picking who to draft, its the Parcells-hired scouts, right?
Right
There’s some snark here. Parcells was an absolute gift to this organization. He turned the organizational operation around.
But he had many, many flaws. That’s my point. The “hire a football guy and Super Bowls will automatically rain down” notion is overly simplistic and I’m poking a hole in it.
On point two
Parcells did NOT revamp the scouting staff. A lot of the guys who are still here, and who turned in that really good ’08 draft, were here with Lacewell. Parcells changed the way the organization gathers and processes their data, but Jeff Ireland was the only big personnel guy to leave with the Tuna for Miami.
But A Football Man
Might have put the brakes on the Roy trade; or found enough players to field special teams; or not made the Brad Johnson mistake; or left our offensive line without youth or depth; allowed our safety spots to go so naked; and left the middle of our defense weak . . . or let Romo go to Cabo or let TO mount a revolution or sign Crayton and Flo and TO to wild crazy contracts
Technically Tex is right
Henson is 1-0 as a starter.
He completed 4 of 12 passes for about 30 yards, no TDs and an interception returned for a TD in his one career start.
When Parcells arrived, the team had no talent
He left a team loaded with talent and how many Pro Bowlers last year? I was always critical of his game day coaching but I still say he’s elite at assembling talent. A lot of the players on the NE roster when they won the first of their 2 SB’s were acquired by Parcells and he also did something right with the Jets and Giants.
by StillHateTheGiants on Jan 28, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions
13 Pro Bowlers on the Roster
8 signed or drafted by Jerry and 5 by Bill
Jerry’s Kids:
Ellis, Adams, Gurode, Hamlin, T.O., Davis, Thong, Folk
Bill’s Boys:
Newman, Ware, Witten, Romo, McBriar
Whoops
Let me amend that to 7 Jerry and 6 Bill,
dropping Folk from Jerry’s list and adding Barber to Bill’s.
Ware is a Parcells signing now ?? Newman ?? Romo ??
Parcells was hired 2 months before the 2003 draft, and had no bearing on the 2003 selection of Terrence Newman. We all know that Parcells didn’t want to draft Ware at #11, and Romo was the discovery of Sean Payton.
by CowboysRnumba1 on Jan 28, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
How do we know that about Ware? And who brought PAyton to the COwboys?
Parcells did not win a Super Bowl with Dallas so his time here was not fully successful, but I seem to remember the Cowboys really sucking before he got here.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
With or without Bill...
This team has finshed 9-7 in 3 of the last 4 years.
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
The fins are offering John Beck up for trade, any ideas on this guy as a No. 2 or No.3?
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
I was suprised he was a proprospect coming out
I didn’t think he was a special player at Whyomming
by AustonianAggie on Jan 28, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
The Fins must've seen something initially
He was to be their franchise QB.
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on Jan 28, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
I guess... he was drafted by which regime? also, maybe he's like Ken Dorsey
How do guys like that end up with 4 and 5 year careers?
by AustonianAggie on Jan 28, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
well.. then he's not the guy I thought he was
who is john beck? and wouldn’t we rather draft Chase Daniels anyway? I’m not saying chase daniels is a sure bet but he has Drew Brees like credentials coming out but he’s not getting a lot of love
by AustonianAggie on Jan 28, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'd definitely take a flier on him.
Unless he’s actually closer to 5’6" or 5’7" than he is 5’11" (or whatever Brees’ actual height is) I don’t think the “too short” is still a valid argument.
honestly.....i would go and get Quincy Carter to be a #2 or #3 (provided he was off the pipe)
and it would cost us nothing before i gave the dolphins anything for john beck
I'd settle
for Clint Stoerner.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
Sorry here is the link
http://www.truebluefanclub.com/blogs/writers_block.cfm
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Raf
Just don’t ever mention Skyler Green again, please?
(Romo) still gets excited when he buys a new t-shirt at Target for crying out loud
it is really refreshing to see JJ get some love
I get so tired of the JJ needs a GM deal for many reasons.
How is the Cowboys talent?
Good? that’s because of JJ and fire Wade
Not good? that’s because of JJ and ease up on Wade
real simple.
And I don’t know how BP has become a better coach since he left. Revisionist history is remarkable. Did BP lose a game here?
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
JJ a master of the draft
JJ has been great on draft day the last 2 years. I really hated to see him give up the picks in 09 for Roy Williams. Based on his record and on what we got out of Roy this year it was a bad decision.
I liked it at the time
I think Roy will eventually work out. I hope. We’ll see.
The 6th rounder means nothing, but the 1st and 3rd could be costly. We needed a WR anyway so we would’ve picked that with the 1st rounder. So, hopefully RW will play like a 1st rounder again
""I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." -Tyson
We Could Have Roy for Free
that is what sucks; he was a free agent; no way Detroit was brining him back. It was worth the risk of losing him, considering they extorted a 1, 3, and and change.
He would have went to another team for more money, and to a team where he'd be the #1 WR
He is worth the 20th pick in the draft, and if we win a SB in the next few years, he would make up for the extra 3rd we threw in there.
85% of this blog site would have been in favor of giving up a 1st and a 3rd for RW in last years draft…..I was here, listening to everyone on here saying we need to trade away one of our 1st rounders to get Roy…..and most said it would take more than just a 1st, more likely a 1st and a 3rd………..ok…..well It’s done….let’s move along now…
Chances are Jerry would've traded down the 20th pick
If we had kept it. He does it every year and this year would’ve been no different. I’m not so sure whoever we picked at 20 would be able to come in and start immediately anyway.
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