Dallas Cowboys need a new coaching staff...in 2010
A couple of weeks ago there was a general consensus here at BTB that no matter what happens, Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett deserve the chance to serve out their contracts. Well, a few minds have undoubtedly changed after the debacle in Philly.
However, unless a miracle happens don't expect any major coaching changes until after next season.
As soon as it was reported that Mike Shanahan had been fired from the Denver Broncos, the collective Dallas Cowboys fan's eyebrows shot up with interest. While many would love to see Captain Cupcake take his show elsewhere, no one had a good idea on who should replace him. Was anyone impressed with Jason Garrett's unimaginative offense in his second season as OC? This Cowboys team isn't a rebuilding project and a rookie college head coach most likely wouldn't be the right answer. Bill Cowher hasn't shown any interest in returning to coaching.
Yet when Mike Shanahan suddenly became available it was automatically decided that he and Jerry Jones would be a perfect fit; Jerry has been good at defensive drafts and Shanahan has always had a way with an offense. He is a coach that is a mix between Bill Parcells and Wade Phillips; which is what this team supposedly needs. Parcells was too overbearing yet Phillips is way to easy going. The Cowboys need a player's coach that is also one that demands accountability and there's no doubt he would be an intriguing decision to be named as Cowboys head coach.
Just don't expect that to happen anytime soon.
As stated plenty of times before Jerry Jones has never been one to fire a coach on a whim, whether that is the right idea or not. He believes that continuity is a major key to success and he also knows that there is no guarantee that if Wade is canned there is a better coach waiting to be hired. Sure, we can all dream about Shanahan or Mike Holmgren or Bill Cowher but is anyone certain that either of those coaches is willing to sign on Cowboys coach in 2009?
It's tough to decide exactly where one stands on this subject. One part of me is disgusted by the effort and lack of heart this team exhibited this past season yet another part of me wants to at least maintain some sort of continuity for next year. You almost have to believe that starting over with a new coaching staff is playing with fire, and more regression is likely possible. Do we take the chance that a new coach will be unable to do with these players that Bill Parcells and Wade Phillips could not?
This upcoming season will be a defining moment in the Dallas Cowboys history. Either this group of talented but selfish individuals can actually band together as a team and become successful when it counts or it all continues to fall apart. If the latter happens then a new coaching staff and an overhaul of the team is exactly what is needed. The Dallas Cowboys franchise is not one to just live with being average.
This team and this group of players have one more season to prove they are capable of becoming a great team. In 2008 the Cowboys were wracked with distractions and injuries, a disastrous combination. Wade Phillips' lone focus should be on how to cut down on all of the outside distractions that marred the Cowboys this last season. If Jerry Jones has any desire to win then he will allow Wade Phillips to dictate how this team is run. The question is if Jerry Jones will let that happen.
All signs are pointing to Shanahan and Holmgren taking a season off from coaching and evaluating their options after that, and Bill Cowher looks like he has no desire to return anytime soon. The Cowboys have one more chance to make it all work, and if that doesn't happen expect a complete overhaul in 2010 starting with the head coach.
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A very likely scenario if the boys struggle in 09 the way they did this year.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Jan 4, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Count me in.
As sorry and pathetic as this past season played out, I’ll give Phillips and Garrett one more year to right things. If they don’t, then we know for an absolute fact that we need to move on. And then I’ll gleefully jump on the Holmgren 2010 bandwagon.
Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry - ESPN
by Nelson... on Jan 4, 2009 12:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it will be Shanahan
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 4, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
same here
or the Shanahan 2010 bandwagon
by scottmaui on Jan 4, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but he won't be available by then
unless he really wants to take a year off ?
by Helene on Jan 4, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shanahan...
Said he would take a year off, UNLESS something perfect(hint) came along.
Of course, that perfect he hinted was the Dallas Cowboys. He really wants to come here, he loves Romo and Owens.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Jan 4, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't agree with this quote
As stated plenty of times before Jerry Jones has never been one to fire a coach on a whim, whether that is the right idea or not.
Tell that to the ghost of Tom Landry….Or Jimmy Johnson….HeHeHe
Jerry will do it if he thinks its in the best interest of the club……I’m undecided whether another coaching change or another OC will necessarily help with Tony Romo’s maturity.
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Jan 4, 2009 12:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Johnson wasn't fired
he wanted out
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 4, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can u explain more on this situation
i don’t remember, or i was too young….
Jimmy quit?
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Jan 4, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
The story is that at the owners meeting after the ’93 season, Jerry got drunk and was spouting off that the Cowboys were so good, there was about 500 coaches who could take the Cowboys to the SB with that talent.
When Johnson heard this, he got pissed and told Jerry I’m outta here.
Turns out Jerry was right as he hired Switzer and won the SB in ’95.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 4, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Was Right and Cost Dallas A Dynasty
Sure Jerry was right; anyone could coach that team to a Super Bowl, except that the Barry Switzer Clown Show failed to win his first year, and we lost an embarrassing playoff game to the hated 49ers. Sure, Bozo captained the ship the following year and then Jones ran this franchise into the mud, where it is still stuck; can you say zero for 13? Jones is Al Davis and the laughing stock of the NFL and all of America is laughing at this once proud franchise. Jones is a POS.
by Iowacowboy on Jan 4, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1 Completetly wrong about Jerry
And it was the salary cap that cost Dallas a dynasty, not Jerry
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 4, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's right
now it’s coming back to me bit by bit…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Jan 4, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have the tape of Super Bowl 28
and in the locker room, when the champagne is flowing,
Bob Costas comes up to a grinning Jimmy Johnson and points out that no team had won three Super Bowls in a row, and is Jimmy ready to lead his team after that elusive third title.
The guy froze. Got a deer-in-the-headlights look and stammered a non-answer.
IMO, he had already made his mind up to leave. A few days later, he was on the Tonight Show and took potshots at Jerry in his interview. He decided to dare Jerry to fire him, and Jerry, in effect, did.
I think Jimmy is the best coach this organization has ever had, but I think he bungled this badly. He acted out of anger and spite. He could have worked out a severance and allowed the team to conduct a longer search for his replacement. Instead, he played a very public, passive-aggressive game of chicken with Jerry.
Very childish for a man who is one of the best managers of men I have ever seen.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 4, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But
Jimmy was a complete nutcase at that point. Still a great coach, perhaps because he had kind of become a little untethered.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 4, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone remember which coaching candidates were available at that time??
Who could Jerry perhaps have gotten instead of Switzer?? Nowadays I always know who is available and who isn’t but I can’t remember back then.
by kameleon_o on Jan 5, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Coaches
Notable names at that time were…
Mike Shanahan- OC of SF 49ers
Tom Coughlin – HC of Boston College
Tony Dungy – DC Minnesota Vikings
Butch Davis – DC Dallas Cowboys
by troysboys on Jan 6, 2009 9:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Were any of those guys considered "big name" coaches back then though?
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 7, 2009 2:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Were any of those guys considered "big name" coaches back then though?
They may not have been considered “big name” but each had already coached in the pro-level. Switzer was out of football for 5 years when he was hired.
by troysboys on Jan 8, 2009 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy Johnson stepped down as head coach...
He wasn’t fired per se….it’s later come clear that he and Jerry Jones had a personal falling out and they couldn’t continue together professionally. Jimmy was upset at how Jerry was trying to get into the spotlight and make the Cowboys name bigger than the team itself.
by Brandon Worley on Jan 4, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My point was it was
Kinda sudden….coming off a SB victory.
Either way…I know Coach landry was bitter for quite a while.
Jerry would fire Wade today if he thought it would get us to the SB next year
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Jan 4, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont' have any enthusiasm for next year. I think...
we’ll get more of the same. Jerry will talk the team up, Wade will downplay, but in the end we’ll either barely make the playoffs, or not at all. This team has already left it’s mark, and it’s pretty low on the post. I’m a Cowboy fan and will watch all I can, but 8&8 seems likely to me. Hey, that makes 10-6 seem like a SB year. Low expectations will make any win seem great, but in the big games, we’ll fold quicker than a hiker’s tent.
I’m happy to see Norv having some success. He won without LT and SM. Wow.
by CowboyMan on Jan 4, 2009 1:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If we are much healtheir than this year
we’ll finish with at least 10 wins.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 4, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps, but there are...
far too many IF’s to overcome for this team to succeed.
by CowboyMan on Jan 4, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
success is relative
I said 10 wins, that doesn’t necessarily mean success
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 4, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Health issues aside
We won’t get 10 wins next year unless the team starts to play with heart and put personal issues behind team goals
Super Bowl party at my place, Dallas vs. ?, who's in?
by stevefs12 on Jan 4, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we would have won at least 10 games
if it weren’t for the onslought of injuries, that played a bigger role than most people think.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 4, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's way too early for me to have any entusiasm for next year also
These guys really let me down this year. I’ve been a fan for many, many years and they have never let me down the way they did this year
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 4, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no there is not.
what ‘too many ifs’?
a relatively injury free team makes the playoffs this year…
Just gotta tweak the OC position, get a good ST coach in here and we’ll be fine.
Too many hysterical, flustered, easily brainwashed fans out there right now…after the calm, we will be fine going into next year…
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Jan 4, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
All well and good, Teasip; but what do you about a QB with a severe headcase?
Wharter
by Wharter on Jan 4, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're crazy
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Jan 4, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing about the Landry firing..........
As part of the deal to buy the Cowboys, Jerry had to fire Tom Landry. Bum Wright would not sale the team unless the person buying would agree to fire Landry. And that is a fact. I’m not saying that Jerry wouldn’t of fired him anyways but firing Landry was a part of the deal. Bum hated Landry and wanted him gone.
But Jerry did fire Chan Gailey on a whim.
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 4, 2009 1:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, you've got me breaking out my...
Cowboy’s history books to see if you’re right about that. Beautiful baby by the way.
by CowboyMan on Jan 4, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is right
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 4, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a new one on me
I have never heard that story before.
If bum wanted Tom fired….why didn’t he do it himself????
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Jan 4, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it the GMs job to hire and fire the HC. Tex had no...
stomach to fire Landry. Tex knew, as we all did back then, that himself, and Gil Brant, brought down the Cowboys with year upon year of horrible drafts. Landry had very few good horses to play with at the end.
by CowboyMan on Jan 4, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually asked about that....
and was told that Tex was pushing Landry to step down but that there was no way Tex would fire him.
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 4, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure because Ive read that aswell
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 4, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Jerry fired Gailey 'cause Troy hated his guts?? And because he let himself be fooled into thinking Jeff Ogden was a better WR than Irvin??
by kameleon_o on Jan 5, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it was a combo of aikman and irvin who could not stand how gailey ran the offense.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Jan 5, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He actually told jerry he would do it.....
that way Jerry wouldnt catch all the heat from the folks in Dallas. But Jerry maned up and said he would do it himself, which led to the whole golf course incident.
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 4, 2009 1:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What was the golf course incident?
I never heard that one.
by rhbgsherb on Jan 4, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The first place i read about it was........
In the book “Boys will be Boys”. And like you that had me scratching my head. So i started emailing Randy Galloway about it and asking all kinds of questions and he confirmed everything.
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 4, 2009 1:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I never heard that.
I heard if Jerry wanted to run the show he knew Tom Landry had to go because Landry would have never given JJ any respect. Tom was not going to change his ways and he certainly wasnt going to listen to Jerry. He also felt that the game might have passed Landry bye.
by squidlo97 on Jan 4, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It had
The game had passed Landry by. When he got canned, lots of players celebrated.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 4, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps, but most, if not all of those 'celebrating players' were gone as soon as...
Johnson could dump them.
by CowboyMan on Jan 4, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
It was a crap team with an out of touch coach. The whole thing needed to be turned over.
I wonder how Landry related to the Playmaker for their one year together? They must have been an odd couple.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 4, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've never heard Irvin say a bad word about Landry.
by CowboyMan on Jan 4, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't imply that he did
Just hard to imagine two more different personalities.
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 4, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I found nothing to Validate that theory
You really turned around the Cowboys franchise in the early 1990s, and to do it you had to shake up the status quo, including firing the longtime coach, Tom Landry. To this day we hear complaints from longtime Dallasites about that. If you could do things over, would you have handled that differently?
Yes. I understand the criticism; I actually understood it then. I didn’t have a sense of how significant the emotional attachment was to Coach Landry, and to some degree [Cowboys President and General Manager]Tex Schramm, but especially to Landry and the franchise. He had actually transcended the franchise. I actually had very prominent consulting people—not one but two firms, Hill & Knowlton, out of Washington D.C., and one firm from Dallas—that were advising me all during this time. And they advised me in many ways to do it the way I did it. Bum Bright—the individual I bought the team from—offered, to his credit, to make all these changes and to sell the Cowboys to me with no one here, a clean slate. But I was advised, and I concurred with it, that everybody knew the reason the changes were coming was because of me, so I should be a man and directly do it myself, as far as Coach Landry’s and Tex Schramm’s situations—in other words, do it face to face.
As a matter of fact Jerry was saying it was his IDEA and Bum offered to do it for him….so he wouldn’t look so bad. But Jerry was man enough to do it himself
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Jan 4, 2009 1:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Its not a Theroy
I’m just telling you what i read and the answers i got when i asked questions. It’s not my theory.
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 4, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I'm not arguing. I just like Cowboy history...
to be accurate in my mind, and need to read up a bit. I’ve never, at at least after the initial shock, had a problem with Landry being fired. I watched those dismal teams lose year after year. I had no idea, or knowledge whatsoever, about Jerry Jones or Jimmy Johnson.
I was in for quite a ride for the next few years, as we all know. While Landry was still HC, the Cowboys had already drafted Michael Ervin, and were set to take Aikman, so things looked brighter. But the trade of Walker to the Vikes is what set Jerry/Jimmy apart, at least at the outset, from anything Tex/Gil would have even contemplated. That trade made all the difference. That, and a lots of other good personnel and coaching moves.
by CowboyMan on Jan 4, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In my original post........
I even said that i wasnt saying Jerry wouldn’t of fired him anyway. But according to what i read.Bum would only sale the team to someone that agreed to fire Landry. Again this was in the book that i just got done reading a few weeks ago. “Boys will be Boys” by Jeff Pearlman. Randy Galloway only confirmed my questions. No one really knows what happened and in the end it doesnt really matter. It needed to be done and it was. Like most Cowboys fans, the only beef i had with it was the way he handled it. Jerry knows he screwed that one up.
Hey TrueBlue24, did you get to go to the game where Hansbrough broke the scoring record?
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 4, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep...Sure did paul
It was awesome….He broke the record…Phil ford came down and handed him a plaque and Tyler made a little speech….Pretty cool how they stopped the game and had a little ceremony!
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Jan 4, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Link
You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach
by TrueBlue24 on Jan 4, 2009 1:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
why wait to 2010 to bring in shannahan
Bring in mike now…bring incapers to run the defense now…bring in mikes son from the texans to help with the offense…why wait??
by canty99 on Jan 4, 2009 1:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
RIght, if Wade is not the guy, why wait til 2010?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jan 4, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what if Shanahan doesn't want to coach in 09
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 4, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats not what he's said
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 4, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wha??
He said he may take a year off, UNLESS something “perfect” came along. That “perfect” he was talking about is the Dallas Cowboys. Even Adam Shefter, after inteviewing Shanahan hinted he wants to come to Dallas. Shanahan loves both Romo and Owens.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Jan 4, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you could be right
but thats purely speculation right now
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 4, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Glazers says different
that Dallas has no interest in Shannahan( inside soure) and that he was leaning to taking a year off
by Deke on Jan 4, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's See...
Glazier or Adam Shefter, who interviewed Shanahan himself?
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Jan 4, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so I guess you don't believe Jerry when he says the coaching staff is in place
by Deke on Jan 4, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did I say Shanahan was coming to Dallas?
I said Shanahan WANTS to come to Dallas. If Garrett leaves, then you better believe Shanahan is coming.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Jan 5, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm been a vocal advocate for keeping Wade but I have to agree
You can’t have a lame duck.
If you’re going to give Wade a chance to earn an extension, if he wins or gets to a Super Bowl, a la Tom Coughlin last year, you keep im.
If you’re going to replace him no matter what he does, it’s pointless to wait.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 4, 2009 1:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yep
it’s good to hear some logical reasoning for once.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Jan 4, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ed Reed is sick.
Stability is key, and JD is a Beast.
Jindal - 2012
by Longhorn on Jan 4, 2009 2:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I just hope jerry changes his mind and realizes it makes no sense to wait
Especially moving into a new stadium next season it makes sense to do it now…but i am sure it will not happen
by canty99 on Jan 4, 2009 2:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Jones Thinking
The Newark Star Ledger printed an article today written by Todd Archer of the Dallas Morning News. In it are excerpts from a two hour August 2008 interview with Jerry Jones talking about his mistakes in his first 19 years with the Cowboys. He stated in that interview that he wished he had handled the Tom Landry dismissal better and that he should not have been so cavalier about his friendship with Jimmy Johnson.
Also " I regret giving Chan (Gailey) two years, " said Jones…….“I know why it worked out that way, but I’m just saying I regret that.” “When you really look at what he’s done since he’s left here he took us to the playoffs twice. And I’m not talking about the fairness of it. I’m just talking about how I should have worked hard on some things where we could have made adjustments that were meaningful. That’s it. I should have tried harder to work harder with him to make it work.”
In the visitor’s locker room after the debacle in Philly Jerry said, " I like what we are doing and what we’re trying to do offensively," Jones said. “I like what we’re trying to do defensively. I understand the fundmentals on special teams when you have breakdowns there…” I know the first thing when I look back having had four or five head coaches, I don’t know that change was necessarily the answer. Maybe having them address change might have been the better answer."
Judging from his comments, it appears Jerry is looking for continuity. It looks as if he sees this situation similar to the Chan Gailey one and doesn’t see the merit of a head coaching change. Since he is spending his money and he is now 19 years older from his experience, I’m willing to let him play out his hand. A change now would change all of the work both Parcells and Wade put into the team and create another learning curve. Sometimes continuity is good. It seems to have worked for the Giants.
by jevans1729 on Jan 4, 2009 2:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Question.. or ponder over this...
What will happen if…the cowboys make the playoffs and
A: The cowboys win a playoff game atleast one but because the D was stellar and the O barely got by? Would we still let wade go? Would JG be a defn goner?
B: reverse happens.. the O is stellar and is the reason we got to the playoffs and won in the playoffs and the D played a bend but dont break type of game. Would JG be automatically HC then? and wade defn gone?
C: we win the superbowl because of Scenario A would then wade be guranntee to stay and JG gone.
D: we win the superbowl because of Scenario B would wade defn be good and JG defn be headcoach
E: no matter what coaches will be changed?
you guys get what im trying to get at??
What the French?! Toast!
by thebigham on Jan 4, 2009 2:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well if that happens
then jerry did the right thing to keep wade..however i do not see it happening even though we got the talent…..I think he needs to make the switch especially they way they lost those last 2 games…it showed me alot about wade and his staff…
by canty99 on Jan 4, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It showed me more about the PLAYERS!
It was the same schemes on both sides of the ball that we ran when we beat the Giants. Players play and coaches coach. Coaching matters, but not near as much as playing. Execution is much, MUCH more important than schemes.
by John Boy on Jan 4, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Idont think jerry thinks that or any other successful people.
Jerry the GM has a Im sure a short list of coaches he likes. I also think he has a list of young promising guys to keep an eye on. I dont think he figures he will do this if the O does well or this if the D does well.
The questions is " Is Wade the problem and someone else is the answer or Is Wade the answer. Jerry makes his decision and doesnt look back and doesnt play what if for the future. If you think your the man then you expect to succeed. He will put all his energy into Wade succeeding. If Wade fails then he also believes he can find the next Jimmy Johnson.
by squidlo97 on Jan 4, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was one who wanted continuity a few weeks ago
But that Philly game was unforgivable. I would love to see Shanahan take over. I think he would get more respect than Wade gets from the players. I like the thought of Shanahan the coach w/o Shanahan the GM. If we could get Dom Capers to coach the defense, it seems like we’d have a solid chance.
I don’t if I can take another year like the one we just had.
by rhbgsherb on Jan 4, 2009 2:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yup
Wade did not have this team ready and he is way to soft on his players..thats quite evident..
by canty99 on Jan 4, 2009 2:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the Broncos just give up 52 to the Chargers?
AND go winless in December? At least Wade won ONE game. Shanahan didn’t have HIS players ready to play either. He wasn’t fire for NO reason. Why would we want to go from this to THAT? Change for the sake of change is ridiculous.
by John Boy on Jan 4, 2009 3:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great post
Just when I was ready to blow it all up and bring in Shanahan and Capers, someone brings me back down to earth. I like Shanahan but there was a reason he was fired.
by kameleon_o on Jan 5, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure the talent level is different between the two teams!!
Shanahan was on his 8th RB and he still almost made the playoffs.
Imagine what he could do with our RB’s and blocking game. He’s had nothing but RB after RB the last few years and finally has a decent WR in Marshall.
Remember what he did when he had a Probowl Tighend to work with?? I know having Elway helped, but Shanahan would have a lot more toys to play with here than he has had in Denver in a while.
t ball on MY - "hate the contract, don't hate the player"
by bspate on Jan 5, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The talent level on offense isn't what hurt him though
It was the defense. He may not have had a great RB but that never stopped them before. They also averaged over 23 points a game. He had two great WR’s, 3 if you count Stokley, a good TE and a good young QB. Not too shabby. He just hasn’t been a great coach the last few years. If he came here I’d be on board with it but like the guy said, it’s not like he doesn’t have any warts of his own.
by kameleon_o on Jan 5, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry will do..
what’s best for the team, period. If he really thought firing Wade now, would be better for the Cowboys, Wade would be gone yesterday. I happen to agree with Jerry that continuity is the best thing, at least continuity with the HC and OC. I’m in favor of changing the DC as well as ST coach.
I don’t think Shanahan would do any better than Wade and I don’t think Holmgren did that much for Seattle.
The Cowboys players know that they have a good coach and a good advocate in Wade. The players have played this game most all of their lives and they play for pride as well as the money. They want to win as much as anyone.
I expect Jerry to package an established player or two in a trade for a couple of early round draft picks in this next draft. He will use those picks to beef us up on the OL, Safety and DL. You can expect 15-20 new faces on the ’09 team, and with luck, we will get more players like Tashard Choice and Orlando Scandrick for our mid round picks.
Finally, we know the strategy that opposing DCs are using agaiinst us. Jam TO at the line and throw the kitchen sink at Romo. I expect Red Jesus to learn his lessons and come roaring back next year with Felix, Choice and Barber to help take some heat off of Romo. Hopefully we will have a defense that won’t let us get in a hole.
Cowboys go 11-5 next year.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jan 4, 2009 3:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's obvious Wade will be here.
I am fine with that. Wade another year to work with guys, plus a few upgrade. Jason G. with another year under his belt, with film to study on 4 of the top 5 D’s.
We win 10+ games. If we are healthy look for more..
Roy, TO, Austin, Bennett, and Witten with the off-season to click with Romo, I am excited already. We are going to be good next year.+
Jason G. better spend a month this off-season discussing protections for Romo with Houck.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 4, 2009 3:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly?
Something worse than getting upset about losing and not getting a new coach is starting to set in with the fans, APATHY. For the first time ever, I’m feeling like Romo. If they win, OK. If they don’t, OK. The passion for caring is going away. I hope Jerry sees that. (Because apathy = less money being spent on the Cowboys.)
by TacoKid on Jan 4, 2009 4:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
personal choice
Winning goes in cycles..
18-1 team misses the playoffs next year.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 4, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Something thats been bothering me
is our record against teams in the playoffs. We won 2 (Giants and Eagles). And lost 5 (NYG, Phi, Ari, Pit, and Balt). Unless and until we get that to .500, I really question our Superbowl ability.
by Ridgelake on Jan 4, 2009 5:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
99% of us will be back on the bus shot gunning the kool-aid come August.
The 1% that leaves will be replaced by 5% of new guys.
by squidlo97 on Jan 4, 2009 5:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
already started drinking
I am die hard fan, I have no choice. I refuse to believe we will win anything less then 10 games. REFUSE
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 4, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 6, 2009 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
shanahan
i see the rat replacing coach cupcake again in 2010 (deja vue-1995), with either romero crennel or dom capers as the defensive coordinator. i see jason garrett staying on with shanahan (will be the 4th year into the romo system), with shanahan mixing in some west coast to maximaze TO and Uno Williams (slant routes) and in game adjustments, game planning and ultilizing the running skills of barber, jones and choice at various phases of the game. last season jeremy bates called the plays for the broncos and is tight with quarterback jay cutler (aka garrett with romo), plus shanahan like romo both are alums of eastern illinois, so it almost guaranteed. now that coach cupcake see the writing on the wall, expect the cowboys to take a step backward next season finishing 4th in the NFL East. (7-9). In 2010 the cowboys will have the 4th place schedule with a new head coach and a high draft choice in the first round. I see either romero or campers coming to big d as defensive coordinators since dallas is married to the 3-4 defense. the future which maybe a disaster now, will get brighter in 2010 with a new administration.
by dallas 1966 on Jan 5, 2009 7:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No way were going 7-9 next year
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 6, 2009 7:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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