Jason Garrett's future up for discussion today
The Denver Broncos are expected to interview Jason Garrett today for their head coaching position. While I have some criticism of Garrett's play-calling and in-season adjustments this year, I still believe that retaining him as offensive coordinator would be important to the Cowboys. He's a young coach still gaining experience and the offensive numbers he put up in 2007 were amazing. Granted, there was a drop-off in 2008 but it wasn't like we were terrible. In the games that Tony Romo played we still averaged 24 points a game. But the overall production on offense was less than what it should have been given the amount of talent and playmakers we have on that side of the ball. The offense also joined the rest of the team in their annual December collapse.
A lot of that drop-off can be attributed to an offensive line that clearly regressed. Since Garrett is the offensive coordinator that position falls under his jurisdiction but Hudson Houck is the guy I'm looking at specifically. He was the coach who was supposed to take our maulers and mold them into the prefect unit for Garrett's vertical offense that uses the power running game. This was supposed to be a return to the 90's for the offense but something went askew along the way.
Garrett has to accept some of that responsibility. Why do we line up in the shotgun so much? Any play-action passes are basically ruined from that formation. The only running play we used regularly from that formation was the draw and teams began to recognize that and stuff it regularly. In general, teams seemed to recognize our formations and the plays that were coming all too often. Garrett needs to use a little more deception in the formations and play-calling. On the other hand, when it's third and one, forget deception and just run the ball between the tackles. If our mammoth offensive line can't pick that up we don't deserve to win ball games.
The thing that would benefit the Cowboys offense the most in 2009 is using the three-headed monster at the running back position. Whenever Garrett gets nervous in a game he resorts to the pass. With the protection the line was providing and Romo's cavalier attitude towards ball security, it wasn't the best idea. I'm a fan of Garrett's and a fan of the vertical passing scheme he runs, but he needs to remember the running game and not be so quick to give up on it.
I want at least one more year for the Redhead to find out if he can make the proper adjustments and return to the explosive offense that caught our fancy in 2007. And yes, I do believe that one day he will be a successful head coach and that just might be in Dallas unless another team takes the plunge with him this year.
Montrae Holland, who played at Denver last year, gives high-marks to Garrett in a Denver newspaper. He also offers his take on the whole Romo/Witten/WR's controversy from the end of the season.
"Jason let them be men and talk it out," Holland said. "He went up to them and said, 'What's going on? What can we do to get past this so we can get back to football?' He's a communicator. He listens to the players when the players come off the field."

Wide receivers coach Ray Sherman is expected to interview for the St. Louis head coach position sometime this week.
Sherman, reached by phone Monday in Dallas, said it was a career goal of his to be a head coach in the NFL and that he was looking forward to the Rams interview.
"I just think it'll be an excellent opportunity," Sherman said. "It's a team that has some exciting players and has a chance to turn it around."

The Cowboys are almost assuredly heading back to San Antonio for training camp in 2009. There are even some tentative dates planned, July 31st through August 22nd.
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Agreed
I would also like to see Garrett come back for another year. We don’t need Romo trying to adjust to another OC in 2009. Since Garrett is young and bright, I do believe and hope that he will make needed adjustments. I’m not so sure that Wade can learn new tricks as an old dog, but perhaps Garrett can.
by BishopWest on
Jan 6, 2009 10:50 AM CST
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I think Sherman would make a good OC here....
He has a good rep with the players, more so than Garrett it seems.
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 11:17 AM CST
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Replacement plan
I assume he’d replace Garrett if JG left.
by rhbgsherb on
Jan 6, 2009 1:19 PM CST
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I agree
I would like to see Garrett come back but he needs to learn from his past two seasons. In each season his offense started with a bang and was basically unstoppable. But, as both season went on and teams gathered tape on his schemes, his offense became just another mediocre one. I hope he comes back because I think he’s good, but he needs to learn from his past two seasons. Also I don’t want Garrett to be the future head coach, if he comes back I want him coming as the O coordinator and that is it, if we’re sticking with Wade, then the entire team needs to buy into Wade’s system and go to work as if no matter what happens Wade is their coach and he is who they are working for. We can’t have the whole “is Garrett next deal going on” we have enough distractions.
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
by iCowboy on
Jan 6, 2009 10:54 AM CST
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I agree also
I too would like to see Garrett stay with the team. Like Grizz wrote I would like to see a little more attention paid to the running game plus I would like to see more from the short passing game. Let Owens, Bennett, Williams, and to some extent Crayton run after the catch. Not every pass has to be 15 plus yards down the field. Garrett didn’t all of a sudden forget how to coach this year. Also, it isn’t all about scheme either. Garrett is calling games much like Norv did in the 90’s. The big difference is those teams executed better.
by geth13 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:47 PM CST
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Great Post.
My feeling is that the offense was A) too predictable and B) way too sloppy. The play of the line wasn’t where it needs to be, and I was thoroughly disappointed by the effort of the “big play” receivers. Garrett was there during the 90’s. I’m sure he’s got a feel for what it takes to win in regard to player attitudes, effort, and execution. As has been stated, he’s an intelligent guy. If Garret does return as OC, the adjustments he makes in 2009 should give an indication of where he is in his progression as a coach.
by Cannon Jacques on
Jan 6, 2009 10:57 AM CST
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It's the Quarterback Stupid...
One quick glance at the remaining eight (8) playoff teams and it becomes clear that winning teams in this league have first-round drafted, blue-chip quarterbacks.
The AFC is stocked with your first-rounders in Rivers, Big Ben, and Flacco. The Titans have two top-five drafted QBs on their roster. Outside of Delhomme, the same holds true in the NFC, where the Giants have two, the Eagles have their franchise QB, and even the Cardinals have their quarterback of the future, a first-round pick, already in place.
After hitting on Aikman with the first pick in the draft, Mr. Jones began going cheap at the most important position in sports… and Cowboy fans have been treated to the likes of Quincy, Romo, and Hutchinson – none of whom have won a playoff game.
Jerry was gifted Brady Quinn two years ago and he blinked – again pinning his hopes on a pear-shaped, turn-over prone, un-drafted journeyman with the make-up of Greg Norman. Until the Cowboys address the QB position with first-round currency, expect the playoff drought to continue in Dallas, regardless of the coaching.
by Montecito Tex on
Jan 6, 2009 11:16 AM CST
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I love how you used the Cardinals in your example...
when Matt Leinart’s ass is on the bench and the undrafted journeyman/grocery bagger is leading them into Carolina…always a pleasure though, Tex…
by AikmanNailedMySis on
Jan 6, 2009 11:19 AM CST
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No blocking
means the qb is gonna suck. You must be too young to remember how much Troy sucked his first year. Fans were calling for his replacement too, Troy is a bust etc.
by GunsUp on
Jan 6, 2009 11:30 AM CST
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Yeah, he was splitting time with Steve Walsh. As I recall, it was up in the air who was going to prevail as the full-time starter.
A QB doesn’t have to be a first round pick to be a success. There’s this guy named Brady who was picked up toward the end of the draft one year. I hear he’s won some games.
by Cannon Jacques on
Jan 6, 2009 12:09 PM CST
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Yeah
, but I hear Brady has this amazing work ethic. I know Romo doesn’t mind helping his fellow man, but I would like to see him hit one of his linemen up side the head with the ball after he allows a sack.
by GunsUp on
Jan 6, 2009 12:13 PM CST
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I understand what you’re saying. I can’t speak for Romo’s work ethic, but I wish he would show a little more fire and hold some of his teammates’ feet to the fire when they’re not putting forth the effort. For the most part, I really admire his attitude, but I think he may need to be more vocal (and sometimes critical) if he wants to be considered a true leader. Maybe, he needs to be a little more like…Troy Aikman.
by Cannon Jacques on
Jan 6, 2009 12:21 PM CST
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When you pass 45 times a game, your QB is gonna get sacked.
It’s more the play calling than the play execution. Teams weren’t scared of the run, despite Tashard Choice averaging over 5 yards a carry. They knew they could just pin back their ears and go after Romo because we probably weren’t running, Choice and Barber don’t have breakaway speed if we do run, and Romo is not efficient at making quick reads and passes. Despite defenses recognizing that, the Cowboys did not, and in their 5 losses with Romo at QB, they passed 44 times per game, compared to 31 times per game in their wins. Since the Cowboys were only getting blown out in one of those games, against the Eagles, I have to fault the Offensive Coordinator.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 2:48 PM CST
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The play calling and not the execution????
I gotta disagree with you on that one. Just because you throw the ball 45 times a game doesn’t mean you should be giving up an ass load of sacks or getting your qb pounded every time he drops back. Everybody knew Brady was passing last year. And the only time he struggled was when his o-line broke down in the super bowl. The eagles throw all the time. So why aren’t they getting pounded. Because they have a good line. Hell, go back to the Marino days, the whole freaking world knew they were going to pass 40 times a game but it didn’t matter because they had outstanding o-line play. My point is, if you can’t protect the qb , your offense is going to suck. I don’t care what plays you call. The O-line execution is everything.
by TARHEEL PAUL on
Jan 6, 2009 7:52 PM CST
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The difference
is the type of pass. A quick slant to Wes Welker or ??? of the Eagles is different from a 17 yard out to T.O. J.G. was very predictable in his play calling, and that allows for a defense to pin its ears back.
by elharpo on
Jan 6, 2009 8:41 PM CST
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With that said
if the O-line can’t protect cetain routes or execute certain run plays the Offensive coordintator has to be able to see that, and adjust to something they can do.
by elharpo on
Jan 6, 2009 8:43 PM CST
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2 sacks a game is an assload?
The Cowboys gave up 31 sacks this year, 11 in the 3 games when Romo was out. So that’s 20 in 13 games. That’s not bad for a QB that averages 35 attempts per game, especially when we don’t run a quick pass offense, and against the defenses we played. In the last 4 games of the season, they averaged 45 attempts per game against 4 of the top 5 defenses in the league. You’re gonna get sacked a few times. Last year, Brady was sacked 21 times in 16 games with a similar number of pass attempts per game (36). So he got sacked like 3 less times than Romo would have in a 16 game season this year.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 10:51 PM CST
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McNabb was sacked a similar number of times.
And he is equally if not more elusive than Romo. That guy takes a lot of hits without getting sacked, but still got sacked 23 times in 16 games, with about 36 attempts per game. That’s about the same.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 10:53 PM CST
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thats because Romo has a quick release
and gets rid of the ball a lot where other qbs would be sacked. The 11 in 3 games he was out prove that to be true.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 7:47 AM CST
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Romo is far more mobile and capable than Brad Johnson.
I don’t think comparing Romo to Brad is fair under normal circumstances, and particularly not in 2 games where the team quit and was getting blown out. Johnson is a statue, and his experience did not seem to help him this year as far as reading defenses.
It seems like it’s an endless succession of Romo having to overcome his teammates to achieve for some people. I think that the actual answer is that he’s not as great as he could be, and blaming it on the line, receivers, coaches, etc. just makes it more clear. Everything that happens to him can’t possibly be the fault of everyone else, while everything good that he does can’t be in spite of how poorly the rest of his team plays, particularly when several of them are current or former Pro-Bowl players.
I was actually giving Romo some credit by faulting the play calling more than him. The line performed about the same as they did last year, and better than most in the league. Romo has equal, if not superior, tools as every other QB in the league as far as supporting cast. There is a clear trend of significantly more pass attempts in games the Cowboys lost with Romo starting vs. games they won. Since all of those games except 1 were close, it can’t be explained by being forced into a situation where they had to pass more often. Some of that blame has to go to the players, including Romo, the line, the receivers, the backs, etc., but the more I look at it, it seems the majority should go to the coaching staff.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 9:57 AM CST
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the offense as a whole underachieved
and regressed this season, you can point the finger at whoever you want, but it was a collective effort by everyone on the offense. I personally blame the OL because every single play, run or pass, has to start with their execution, once they break down, then sacks, fumbles and INTs are more likely to happen.
Sure, Romo has his warts and we all know what they are, but they are less likely to appear if the plays don’t break down to begin with.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 10:15 AM CST
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That same argument could be applied to the QB
He touches the ball every single play, run or pass. If he plays poorly, the WRs, Line, and RBs are in a bad spot. I believe that if a guy has warts that everyone knows, the coaches should seek to put him in those situations less often rather than more. Other teams know his warts, too, and that’s when they saw that the Cowboys coaching staff was not going to adjust to them, they attacked.
I feel like if a team as a whole underachieves, that’s got to go on the coaches, not on any particular unit.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 10:21 AM CST
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not really
the play doesn’t start with the qb, it starts with the OL. Sure, a qb could throw an INT or fumble with the rest of the offense performing well, but that rarely occured with Romo, he threw very few picks or fumbled very few times when not pressured heavily or the play breaking down because of a jailbreak.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 10:25 AM CST
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journeyman?? and you call Grizz stupid?
Last time I checked the Cowboys were the only team Romo has played for. I got news for you, Romo is as blue chip as it gets, bud.
Your comments are by far the most stupid on this blog and I can’t imagine any more stupid on any other blog.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 12:31 PM CST
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Journeyman
“an experienced, competent but routine worker or performer”.
What does number of teams have to do with anything?
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 12:44 PM CST
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In sports venacular
A journeyman is a player who goes from team to team over his career and never makes a name for himself for anyone team. ie Gus Furotte is your typical journeyman.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 12:48 PM CST
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No
it means ordinary in any vernacular. People who don’t understand the word associate it with travel.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 12:50 PM CST
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what?
You just made up that.
Your posts are fascinating to me.
- a worker who has served an apprenticeship and is therefore qualified to work at a specified trade
- any sound, experienced, but not brilliant craftsman or performer
The “journey” part of the term has nothing to do with travel, which may have confused you. It’s from old french. It has something to do with earning money for working for one day for a master craftsman. Journeymen work for mastercraftsmen. Romo is not yet a mastercraftsman. Read Grizz’ post above, I specifically recall, “Romo’s cavalier attitude towards ball security.” If he doesn’t shape up, he’ll go down as a poor man’ Jake the Snake.
It’s surreal, but I think in many regards Tex is accidentally right. Romo is immature.
by Joey2zs on
Jan 6, 2009 12:55 PM CST
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Terry's right
The NFL and sports in general has different meanings for some words than normal vernacular. Journeyman means someone good enough to start but not good enough to get a permanent gig and one who is usually let go for salary cap reasons.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on
Jan 6, 2009 1:00 PM CST
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Which
has nothing to do with playing for multiple teams.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 1:01 PM CST
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This seems to be sinking in with me as well
The similarities between Jake Plummer and Tony Romo.
Both were physically gifted quarterbacks, mobile, accurate on the move, prone to reckless turnovers, and unable to put it together mentally.
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on
Jan 6, 2009 1:12 PM CST
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just off the top of my head...
this was romo’s ‘worst’ year as a starter, and his qb rating was like 91 or something… that was probably plummer career best, with his worst season qb rating being ilke 60 or something i bet
by CowboysFan4Life on
Jan 6, 2009 1:16 PM CST
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exactly, comparing Romo to Plummer is absurd
as Plummer’s best year doesn’t even come close to being as good as Romo’s worst.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 2:09 PM CST
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Didn't Plummer...
Take the Broncos to the AFC Championship game one year? How far has Romo taken the Cowboys?
Shanahan is the answer.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on
Jan 6, 2009 3:22 PM CST
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yeah, when he was a veteran
Romo has only started 3 years, give me a break.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 4:03 PM CST
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Terry
Romo wears a toupee. I hear he has a wooden leg with a kickstand. Those aren’t his real teeth; they’re veneers. Romo has a secret lisp. He’s a card-carrying member of the ACLU. He votes Independent in all Presidential elections. His backhair is mad fluffy and goes down to the backs of his knees. He’s a bad driver. His father is an asbestos salesman. He sees a doctor for his breath. He’s afraid of spiders and is indifferent to puppies. His favorite movie is Titanic.
Sorry bro. Them’s just the facts.
by Joey2zs on
Jan 6, 2009 5:52 PM CST
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Who Was That QB...
For the Cardinals, when they defeated the Cowboys in the playoffs?
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on
Jan 7, 2009 3:55 AM CST
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I'm so tired of that excuse.
He’s a 6 year veteran. Just because he wasn’t good enough to get on the field for 3 years doesn’t mean he wasn’t in the league.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 10:08 AM CST
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its not an excuse
He didn’t gain any playing experience whatsoever in his first 3 years and any player will tell you that you don’t learn anything unless you’re out there experiencing the live bullets flying.
Watching from the sidelines isn’t going to help you that much at all.
Of course he wasn’t good enough, he came from a division I-AA school, he was in no position to start any earlier than he did.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 10:19 AM CST
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I don't hold it against him.
He must have gained something, because he eventually got on the field and is one of the top 10 QBs in the league. But I don’t buy the “just 3 years” as an excuse, either. Most guys’ careers are over by this point.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 10:23 AM CST
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you're clearly
underestimating the value of playing experience, its really the only way players truly learn how to play the game.
They learn some things by watching, but not what really matters which is knowing what to do in live situations.
Romo is still in his infancy as an NFL qb, I don’t care how old he is chronologically.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 10:29 AM CST
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BTW Soup
QBs in the NFL really don’t fully understand how to play position until they had about 5-6 years of playing experience.
The best of Tony Romo is yet to come.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 10:31 AM CST
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I agree about Romo.
It’s arguable about how long it takes each QB, and whether it’s better for them to sit a few years or play. That’s something that even guys who are employed to know can’t agree on.
I do hope/believe that the best of Romo is yet to come. It’s discouraging that he didn’t make visible progress this year, though.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 10:34 AM CST
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its understandable
considering the way the rest of the offense played around him.
No way he can get better without the help of his teammates and coaches too.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 10:36 AM CST
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Nor can they.
They can’t better without him, either. I don’t think the guy’s a bad QB, but I don’t think he’s elite yet, either. But reading on here how it’s everyone else’s fault is like listening to a mom defend her teenage son that keeps getting in trouble with the law, “It’s not his fault, he has bad friends. He’s just a kid. He didn’t mean any harm. etc.”
It’s like that all the time with Romo. Instead of, he needs to grow up, play better, make less mistakes, learn to utilize the tools he has, etc., it’s always rationalizations about why he is still playing the same after 3 years as a starter as he was after his first year as a starter.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 10:42 AM CST
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given protection
Romo is elite and thats been proven by the numbers he puts up when they do protect him.
Despite having his worse year and being pummeled each game, he put up a qb rating over 90. Thats saying he’s elite to me.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 10:49 AM CST
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He's very, very good.
Top 10 for sure, but not yet a clear top 3 or top 5 guy, in my opinion. If he can improve his turnovers and December swoons, he’s there.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 11:20 AM CST
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Plummer
never quite put it all together, consistently. I think Romo is smarter, and he still has time to right the ship. I have no clue as to whether he will or not – sometimes I have loads of faith in him, other days I don’t. I feel like we learned nothing this season.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 1:19 PM CST
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Plummer had 6 seasons on a bad Cardinals team
Romo needs to do better with the players he has surrounding him. Maybe next season will be better.
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on
Jan 6, 2009 1:31 PM CST
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Journeyman has multiple meanings -- even in sports
And here’s one — to support Terry’s use of the word…
Encyclopedia > Journeyman (sports)
A journeyman, in team sports, is an athlete who plays for a large number of different teams within a short time, or over a career, and who is considered to be a relatively unsuccessful player. Wikipedia does not yet have an article with this exact name. …
Such athletes may be released or traded quickly because they:
are inconsistent in their play
play a position that is not in high demand for their current team, making them good “trade bait”
have a highly specialized skill which may only be needed for a short time (such as a left-handed relief pitcher in baseball).
Examples of journeymen in team sports are: This article or section does not cite its references or sources. …
Contents
1 Basketball
2 Baseball
3 American football
4 Ice Hockey
5 Non-team sports
Basketball
Jimmy Jackson (12 teams)
Chris Gatling (nine teams)
Damon Jones.
Sara Giauro shoots a three-point shot, FIBA Europe Cup for Women Finals 2005. … James Arthur (Jim or Jimmy) Jackson (born October 14, 1970 in Toledo, Ohio) is a professional basketball player in the National Basketball Association for the Los Angeles Lakers. … Chris Raymond Gatling (born September 3, 1967 in Elizabeth, New Jersey) is an American professional basketball player, having played in the NBA from 1991 to 2002. … Damon Darron Jones (born August 25, 1976 in Galveston, Texas) nicknamed DJ is a professional basketball player currently with the Cleveland Cavaliers of the National Basketball Association. …
Baseball
Terry Mulholland
Tony Peña
Jim Leyritz
Juan Samuel
Todd Zeile
Jeromy Burnitz
Jose Vizcaino
Mike Morgan
Heathcliff Slocumb (eight teams).
A view of the playing field at Busch Stadium II St. … Terry Mulholland (born Terence John Mulholland on March 9, 1963 in Uniontown, Pennsylvania) is a Major League Baseball left-handed pitcher. … Antonio Francisco Peña Padilla, widely known as Tony Peña [PAY-nyah] (born June 4, 1957 in Monte Cristi, Dominican Republic) is a former Major League Baseball catcher. … James Joseph Leyritz (born December 27, 1963 in Lakewood, Ohio) is a former catcher and infielder in Major League Baseball who played for the New York Yankees (1990-1996, 1999-2000), with whom he debuted on June 8, 1990. … Juan Milton Samuel (born December 9, 1960 in San Pedro de MacorÃÂs, Dominican Republic) is a baseball coach and a former second baseman in Major League Baseball. … Todd Edward Zeile (born September 9, 1965 in Van Nuys, Los Angeles, California) is a former third baseman and first baseman in Major League Baseball who played from 1989 to 2004. … Jeromy Neal Burnitz (born April 15, 1969 in Westminster, California) is a right fielder in Major League Baseball who plays for the Pittsburgh Pirates. … Born in the Dominican Republic, Jose Luis Vizcaino Pimental was drafted by the Los Angeles Dodgers and played there until he was traded to the Chicago Cubs. … Michael Thomas Morgan was an American professional baseball player who competed for twelve different Major League Baseball teams from 1978-2002. … Heathcliff Slocumb (born June 7, 1966 in Jamaica, New York) is a former Major League Baseball relief pitcher. …
American football
Karl Wilson (eight teams, including three in one season).
Herman Edwards
Otis Smith
Hank Poteat
Kerry Collins
Pepper Johnson
United States simply as football, is a competitive team sport that is both fast-paced and strategic. … Herman Lee Herm Edwards, Jr. … Otis Fitzgerald Smith (born January 30, 1964 in Jacksonville, Florida) is a former professional basketball player and current co-general manager of the NBAs Orlando Magic. … Henry Major Hank Poteat II (born August 30, 1977 in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania) is an American football who currently plays cornerback for the New England Patriots. … Kerry Michael Collins (born December 30, 1972 in Lebanon, Pennsylvania) is an American football quarterback for the Tennessee Titans of the NFL. He has played for the Oakland Raiders, New York Giants, New Orleans Saints and Carolina Panthers, playing in Super Bowl XXXV for New York. … Pepper Johnson (born 1964) is a former American Football linebacker who played thirteen seasons with the New York Giants, the Cleveland Browns, the Detroit Lions, and the New York Jets from 1986 to 1998 in the National Football League. …
Ice Hockey
Anson Carter
Jim Dowd
Rory Fitzpatrick
It is debatable whether a journeyman is defined only by the number of teams he has played for. For example, Andre Rison and Chris Chandler played for seven teams in their careers, but were also voted to the Pro Bowl five times and twice respectively. Ice hockey, known simply as hockey in areas where it is more common than field hockey, is a team sport played on ice. … Anson Carter (born June 6, 1974 in Scarborough, Ontario, Canada) is a Canadian professional ice hockey right winger in the National Hockey League who has played for the Washington Capitals, Boston Bruins, Edmonton Oilers, New York Rangers, Los Angeles Kings, Vancouver Canucks and Columbus Blue Jackets. … James Patrick Dowd (born 5 March 1951) is a politician in the United Kingdom. … Rory Fitzpatrick (born January 11, 1975 in Rochester, New York) is a professional ice hockey defenceman. … Andre Previn Rison (born March 18, 1967 in Flint, Michigan) is a former American football wide receiver who played professionally for the National Football Leagues Indianapolis Colts, Atlanta Falcons, Cleveland Browns, Green Bay Packers, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, and the Canadian Football Leagues Toronto Argonauts. … Chris Chandler is a quarterback for the St. … The Pro Bowl is the National Football Leagues all-star game. …
So both sides are in essence correct.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on
Jan 6, 2009 9:20 PM CST
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Rivers game against the Colts
Was way worse than Romo vs. the Giants last year. If Rivers didn’t have some defensive heroics late in the game, and work horse like Sproles bailing him out, there is no way they win that game. Rivers did more to hurt that team than help them, but they won so he doesn’t catch the flak Romo does. And if we are gonna bust out stats… Joe Montana, 3rd rounder, 4 superbowls. Tom Brady, 6th rounder, 3 superbowls. A first rounder is NOT necessary. A quarterback is only as good as his offensive line.
by witten82 on
Jan 6, 2009 12:55 PM CST
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All Romo needs to do is continue making plays AND...
get better pass protection
AND
minimize the turnovers
That’s it.
“That’s my quarterback!”
— The Original 81
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on
Jan 6, 2009 9:22 PM CST
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You're Comedy Gold, mister
You spent all last year comparing Romo to Leinart because they were immature punks in your mind, but now Leinart, who can’t remove his ass from Arizona’s bench, is proof that Dallas needs a highly drafted QB? Comedy gold.
And who’s keeping him on the bench? An undrafted Arena-ball refugee. One with a Super Bowl ring and an MVP on his mantle. Right, Delhomme isn’t much for pedigree either. Nor is Tom Brady. Neither is Matt Cassell, who some folks on this board would give their right hands to acquire.
As for the "highly drafted QBs on New York’s and Tennessee’s benches, how are things for Vince Young and David Carr? They’re not protegees any more. Carr is now officially a journeyman and Young is, well, who knows where he is.
Was Matt Hasselbeck a show pony? He’s been in a Super Bowl. Marc Bulger doesn’t have a pedigree and he’s pretty damn good. David Garrard? Drew Brees? First rounder? Nope.
by Rafael Vela on
Jan 6, 2009 12:59 PM CST
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Raf, you're making too much sense
Tex won’t be able to comprehend that much logic all at once. LOL!
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 2:12 PM CST
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i hear the hammond b3 and the congregation shoutin'!!!
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on
Jan 6, 2009 9:23 PM CST
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We'll never jnow for sure...
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on
Jan 6, 2009 2:31 PM CST
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What I was trying to say and ..
..got kicked off, was we will never know for sure, but I bet Arizona would gladly trade Leinart straight up for Romo right now.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on
Jan 6, 2009 2:38 PM CST
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I *MIGHT* consider that deal if....
Arizona also threw in Larry Fitgerald, Anquan Boldin, that special teamer that blocked McBriar’s punt, an offensive lineman and a partridge in a pear tree. :) MAYBE
by mdlusk on
Jan 7, 2009 2:57 AM CST
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Tex=Perez Hilton
His unique method of rating stud QB’s is even more disturbing than Super Terry’s “Romo can do no wrong unless somebody else ain’t doin’ right” scale. Matt Lionheart is never going to be any better a pro than another former National Champ QB who also wore # 11: Kenny Dorsey.
by MadMick on
Jan 7, 2009 3:25 AM CST
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This is way off
I was actually struck by the LACK of quality QBs in the playoffs this year. I thought that of the 12 teams that entered the playoffs, a surprisingly high number had QBs who were not top tier guys (Falcons, Ravens, Panthers, Vikings, Dolphins, Titans). Additionally, WR does not seem to be a position of emphasis. I count only 5 total blue chip WRs on all 12 of the teams that made the playoffs— Steve Smith, Roddy White, Reggie Wayne, and the two Cardinals.
Also, why are we focusing on where a guy was drafted? That ceases being relevant the moment his first training camp starts. After that, it’s only about how he performs. Tom Brady (7th rounder) should be evaluated by the same criteria as Peyton Manning (first rounder).
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
by Tim Wilson on
Jan 7, 2009 9:30 AM CST
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How do you define top tier and blue chip?
Pennington was the second highest rated QB in the league, and Ryan was 11th as a rookie. If Jackson had had enough attempts to qualify, he would have been 5th. Hines Ward, Vincent Jackson, Derrick Mason, Steve Breaston, and Bernard Berrian are all good receivers. I’m not trying to contradict you, I’m just curious how you define it.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 11:05 AM CST
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And is blue chip a good or bad thing to be?
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 7, 2009 6:02 PM CST
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Maybe if the Broncos offer him a job Jerry will respond in kind
I’m at a loss as to why Wade is still the head coach. Your head coach can’t be a lame duck, and that is what Wade is. The players won’t respect you. Furthermore, now with his whole “get tough” approach the players think he is a joke. I don’t know what the heck Jerry is thinking.
by quincyyyyy on
Jan 6, 2009 11:27 AM CST
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Yeah if they offer him the job, the continuity goes out the window, right?
So does that mean we can ace that in general and just drop the cupcake?
by AikmanNailedMySis on
Jan 6, 2009 11:31 AM CST
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It's apparent to me
that everyone here lacks the disgust for Garrett that I have. I’ve been calling for his head since earlier this year. Too vanilla. Too predictable. But predictable doesn’t even describe it. If I can watch a game and know what play they’re going to run every time, don’t you think defensive masterminds like Jim Johnson, Rex Ryan, and Dick LeBeau are laughing at the guy? And all of the talk of Wade staying on to coach the defense while someone else comes in to be the HC are just ridiculous. You don’t think the guy has a little pride? I know he doesn’t show it in the way he prepares his team, but I don’t think that anyone lacking a vulva could stomach that.
by Mandmeisterx on
Jan 6, 2009 11:43 AM CST
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To be honest I could care less if he stays or goes....but I'm leaning toward him leaving....
Overratted seems to the word of the week and I think Red is overratted….
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 11:50 AM CST
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"I’ve been calling for his head since earlier this year."
Bwahahahaha!
How bold. How obvious.
Show me your calls for his head last December, or in September.
by Rafael Vela on
Jan 6, 2009 12:05 PM CST
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Not exactly calling for his head
but I definitely let my displeasure of his play calling be known. This is one of my very first posts on this site, so I definitely don’t have anything from December of last year.
by Mandmeisterx on
Jan 6, 2009 12:16 PM CST
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interesting
Dallas scored 41 against a very good D, the highest total they give up all year, and racks up almost 400 yards in total offense and you’re “shocked and disgusted at the playcalling.”
Next
by Rafael Vela on
Jan 6, 2009 12:36 PM CST
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You don't think a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
I am aware he took advantage of a few matchups in that game for big plays, I think he could have done a better job at doing so. I also think, regardless of how many yards we had, he turned the offense one dimensional far too early in that game. That’s one of my biggest beefs with the guy. That and he doesn’t put his best players in the best positions to make plays.
by Mandmeisterx on
Jan 6, 2009 12:38 PM CST
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"I also think, regardless of how many yards we had, he turned the offense one dimensional far too early in that game."
He burned their D with double moves to T.O. in the first half.
He had 24 points on the board at halftime.
When the Eagles started playing T.O. in a bracket he started running.
Jim Johnson blitzed about 9 or ten times the whole game and when he did, Garrett burned him with perfectly timed screens.
He turned the game plan to more deliberate throws to backs and TEs when the big play was taken away. He went to his biggest mistatch, Witten vs. Dawkins, at the end of the half an in the 4th quarter.
He put FORTY ONE points on the board.
If you’re going to make a case against the guy, don’t pick his best game as your example.
by Rafael Vela on
Jan 6, 2009 12:43 PM CST
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"he turned the offense one dimensional far too early in that game"
Dallas was a pass early, run late team in ’07. Were you complaining then?
They were a pass early, run late team under Ernie Zampese, and under Norv Turner too.
by Rafael Vela on
Jan 6, 2009 12:46 PM CST
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You know what though Rafael...
When Norv Turner was playcalling, we had Emmitt Smith. That brings the fear of the running game to the table. His vision and tackle breaking ability was what defenses feared. He was an all-purpose back. The only back like that we have is Tashard Choice, and we don’t use him enough to build a running game that is respected.
Defenses know that Barber in the game means he’s gonna ram them. He won’t outrun anyone or make a juke move. Felix is just pure speed. But Tashard, if given enough touches, will command the respect of the defense to the point that teams will not be able to double Witten, Double TO, etc. etc., because they will fear the constant threat of being gashed for 4-7 yards or more. Garrett doesn’t use his running game correctly, and I’m sorry Rafael, i don’t believe that he is a coordinator that ever will be run orientated to understand that. His fear of using the running game is what has put him in this light to begin with.
If you say to me Raphael that he does use the running game pretty well, I would disagree. I would ask you “Then why, Raphael, did he not use Felix Jones at all in the first game against the Redskins? Why did he not put Tashard Choice in there to relieve Barber at all since, say, The Pittsburgh game?”
The answer is mystifying, if anything. But it clearly shows an OC’s inability to understand what the running game can mean toward winning a game. We cannot fool defenses when Barber alone is in there, that is why if you are the OC, you should try a wildcat, or something else, since just running at them straight up did not work.
"Amongst the enemy's Lair, there will always be a DallasPalace!"
by DallasPalace on
Jan 6, 2009 1:23 PM CST
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I disagree about Felix
He can be a starting RB in this league if he stays healthy. But yes, Choice fits the all-purpose type better.
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on
Jan 6, 2009 1:29 PM CST
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I wasn't using it as an example in that sense
I was showing the first time I disagreed with his playcalling. Again, the double moves to TO were the mismatch I was pointing to the most. I also thought he did a good job of getting Witten on Dawkins. We ran the ball 13 times in the second half, which is a lot for us, but isn’t for any other team. I have no problem with the run to set up the pass strategy, but at some point, you have to establish a valid running game to keep teams honest. Otherwise, Romo is going to continue to get blitzed the way he did the second half of the season. They were successful on a screen pass for 25 yards in this game to beat the blitz, but it’s not something that happens with any degree of consistency.
by Mandmeisterx on
Jan 6, 2009 2:07 PM CST
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Well I certainly have been calling for his head...
I never saw any effort from this coaching staff to line different guys up on different parts of the field, trying to create mismatches, (crazy stuff like lining RW11 in the slot one play and than TO in the slot on the next) forcing defenses to either line up their corners in the slot or cover the Cowboy wide outs with safeties or linebackers.. I never saw much in the way of motion, (which is a great way for a QB to get a pre-snap read on whether or not he’s seeing man or zone coverage).
Garrett failed miserably to recognize an opponent’s weakness on defense and then exploit it. He never tired to change the pace of a game if his offense was in rut by doing something crazy like running the hurry up or at least going no huddle.
One thing that Shanahan, for example, has done very well over the years is to design roll-out plays; something I think Romo would excel at and something we saw almost none of from Garrett.
My issue with the Cowboy passing game is that it is just too vertical. There is almost never anything run underneath the coverage, (unless it’s a back out of the back field). A great example of this is the Raven’s game. They lined their safeties up 20 yards off of the line of scrimmage. Because they knew every pattern that any of the Dallas wide outs ran would be at least 15 yards up the field. Garrett took nearly 55 minutes to exploit this. There is nothing wrong with hitting a little 5 yard completion on 1st down that creates a very convenient 2nd and 5, (a down and distance that opens up the entire playbook and has the defense guessing).
0 = The number of Super Bowls the Eagles have won.
by gee-roj on
Jan 6, 2009 1:46 PM CST
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don’t think you can really judge how great of an OC he really is only after 2 years. he had one good year, one bad one. Let’s see how he does next year, and judge him after that. Especially since this is his first OC job.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on
Jan 6, 2009 12:08 PM CST
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In General I Agree
But it sure sucks to risk Garret not improving while we have a talent-filled team without a huge window for some of our players.
by jrduncans on
Jan 6, 2009 12:57 PM CST
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true
that’s the frustrating part.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on
Jan 6, 2009 1:17 PM CST
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You have a keen eye
The Dolphins, Ravens, Broncos, Lions and Cowboys all share your perceptive notions about Garrett’s abilities. Kudos to you and your laser-sharp football mind.
by Joey2zs on
Jan 6, 2009 12:16 PM CST
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+1
I am not into this whole “learn on the fly” thing when the windows for playoff success open and close very rapidly in this league. I am hoping Redball gets hired elsewhere just to start the ball rolling and get rid of Wade, who has proven over 4 decades that he cannot win when it matters and has no control over his players.
Shanahan as HC with Dom Capers as DC sounds like a plan to me. Again, forget continuity if the thing being continued is uninspired, penalty filled football.
by Billito on
Jan 6, 2009 2:52 PM CST
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Windows slam shut very quickly in the NFL
Screw continuity
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on
Jan 6, 2009 3:44 PM CST
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The main reason why I wanted norv turner hired as the headcoach
Jerry went out and hired an offensive corrdinator before a headcoach, just not something you do. You hire the headcoach and let him bring his people he’s accustomed too.
I like garrett, I think he’ll make a good headcoach down the line, but as a offensive coordinator, he is still a work in progress, and I think that Norv Turner would have done wonders with Garrett and Romo as the headcoach with the play calling , game planning and the development of Romo, and I really believe that was a major mistake by jerry Jones.
If you watch the Chargers, you can really start to see the development of a QB in Rivers when you have a coach that’s clearly in his ear about protecting the ball and not throwing it up for grabs and throwing it away when there’s nothing there. Rivers was like Romo is, he made those bonehead decisions early in his career that cost his team wins by turing it over and throwing it into places he shouldn’t of been…now he’s a different QB.
The other is T.O. I’m tired of these little sit downs with Dieon Sanders and calling out the offensive coordinator, the play calling, the system, although the year before he never said a peep about the offensive system or playcalling, why, because he was getting his numbers. Again it’s always about T.O, why he isn’t getting the ball. If Garrett stays, T.O needs to go, They’re oil and water, they just don’t mix. In my opinion, it’s only going to get worse next year with Garrett and T.O here. if the cowboys get off to a rocky start, T.O will be complaining earlier and more often and the teams season will certainly unravel . again by trying to appease T.O, .Wade Phillips has no control over this team anymore, the players just don’t respect him. Under Wade phillips, this team is just a 500 team over the last 20 games…. that’s not acceptable…..
Wade talks about change, what change is that!!! The team is pretty much set because of the contracts jerry has given out, Jerry wont make a statement with the team by cutting Pac-rat or T.O, that something that would send a strong message to the rest of the team., What is wade going to do, fine guys more, not a big deal to players making millions. Is he going ot get tough with players, players would only laugh behind his back and just ignore what he says because they all know, Jerry is the one in charge of this three ring circus….
Personally, I think Garrett, for his own self and his own sanity would be better off moving on and get away from this organization which appears to have no sense of direction and no leadership where it counts, at the top. If Garrett gets a headcoaching job offer, I think he should take it, hire Jim fassel as a offensive corrdinator, who could help Garrett as a headcoach/coordinator in playcalling and a gameplan and as a head coach since Fassel has been both and hire Dom Capers as his defenisve coordinator if he has hired by a team that runs the 3-4..
by Deke on
Jan 6, 2009 12:31 PM CST
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Development in Rivers?
Rivers did not have a good game at all against the colts! In the playoffs, when it mattered. If that was Romo on are team you would be giving him all sorts of crap.
by witten82 on
Jan 6, 2009 1:00 PM CST
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witten
Romo will never be any good in Deke’s mind because he flat out doesn’t like him. If we won multiple SBs, and Romo was MVP he’s still find something negative to say about him.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 2:15 PM CST
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I know Deke by now
He does make some great points and I agree with him on most everything except for his views on Romo.
by witten82 on
Jan 8, 2009 12:14 AM CST
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If we would have signed Norv then instead of bashing the offense we would be bashing the D.
by squidlo97 on
Jan 6, 2009 7:16 PM CST
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Deke is right about Romo
This year San Diego’s D underperformed, but they are missing there best Defensive of player..
Romo would be a much better qb with Norv..
Not sure how this teams are hiring coaches before having the people who will be leading them or working with them in place.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on
Jan 8, 2009 12:29 AM CST
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I agree that Romo would be better with Norv as well
but Deke still doesn’t like Romo, that I know.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 8, 2009 8:51 AM CST
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I agree Grizz, Garrett, like Romo, just needs more time
Both are young and could develop into a great HC/QB tandem for years to come. Cowboys fans just need to be patient, which isn’t their best suit.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 12:35 PM CST
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Is Wade gone?
Garrett doens’t get the blame for the D’s play. Steelers beat the Boys in the 4th, Ravens beat the Boys in the fourth and Iggles just beat the Boys all day long. If somebody has to go it’s Wade.
So his Garrett the next head coach? If that’s the case do it now so he can build his staff. The only thing is that if Wade goes, I would like to see Mike Nolan brought in to run the D.
by birdness on
Jan 6, 2009 12:42 PM CST
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Reports state that Green Bay's about to sign Nolan. They just fired their DC-Sanders and some assistants recently.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on
Jan 6, 2009 9:33 PM CST
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Nolan is a good hire.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 11:33 PM CST
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newsflash
the golf-course bound Cowgirls are a bunch of underachieving prima donnas.
p.s. Ware deserved Defensive player of the year, they should just apologize to him now, and give him the award. Not sarcastic. Ware is the best linebacker in the NFL and a gamechanger.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on
Jan 6, 2009 12:42 PM CST
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underachieving
I’m not so sure they are underachieving. I think they may just be a 9-7 squad.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 12:45 PM CST
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Just imagine what he'll do with a little motivation
Ware >>> Shawne Roidiman and every other player drafted since 2005. A few players are very good but Ware is the only star on the D
by birdness on
Jan 6, 2009 12:47 PM CST
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It's the OL stupid!
I point my finger at the OL! Look, for whatever reason, the OL regressed as compared to last year. Romo was under constant pressure. Do you blame that on the OL coach or the players? I blame the players. Our OL coach is well respected and did not forget how to coach overnight. Flo & Big played much better last year. Loosing Koiser hurt but the other guys did not step up to the plate. I’m sure teams did catch up to what we were doing on offense but that’s football – happens every year. If we are sticking with this coaching staff then Jerry needs to give Wade a 1 year extension and get busy fixing our OL, SS position & ILB position. Another DE would not hurt either.
Dallas Mock Draft:
2. Darry Beckwith – ILB – LSU
3. Eric Wood – OC – Louisville
4. Chip Vaughn – SS – Wake Forest
4. Brandon Swain – DE/OLB – West Texas AM
5. Hunter Cantwell – QB – Louisville
5. Tyronne Green – OG – Auburn
6. John Faletoese – DT – Cal Davis
7.Ramon Foster – OT – Tennessee
by tyler2 on
Jan 6, 2009 12:56 PM CST
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what no QB?
Hard for me to take anyones draft guesses seriously if there is no room for a real QB prospect, esp. with so many coming out.
by bad knees on
Jan 6, 2009 12:58 PM CST
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He's got one, in the 5th
and if the Cowboys take one, that’s likely where they’ll do it.
by Rafael Vela on
Jan 6, 2009 1:02 PM CST
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actually this isn't a good year for QBs in the draft
unless a lot of juniors declare.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 2:16 PM CST
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i'd take a chance
on Hunter Cantwell.. hes got a live arm and is exactly what i would look for in a developmental qb… and he has a sweet name
by CowboysFan4Life on
Jan 6, 2009 2:19 PM CST
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Its going to happen Terry....
Whether the draft or a FA. Romo can’t be trusted and we have to protect outselves in the event he get’s injured. If it were me, I would draft one to groom for the future and sign a quality FA like Sage Rosenfields (Houstan).
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 2:30 PM CST
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I'm a TTU Homer
but, Harrell stays calm in the pocket, gets rid of the ball fast, and is accurate.
by GunsUp on
Jan 6, 2009 2:31 PM CST
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Who else is out there?
Any info on any other quality backup QBs who might be out there to back up Romo?
by Boundforbeach on
Jan 6, 2009 2:32 PM CST
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FA QB's
Patrick Ramsey, UFA, Denver Broncos
Charlie Batch, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
Kyle Boller, UFA, Baltimore Ravens
Matt Cassel, UFA, New England Patriots
Rex Grossman, UFA, Chicago Bears
Byron Leftwich, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
J.P. Losman, UFA, Buffalo Bills
Kyle Orton, UFA, Chicago Bears
Kurt Warner, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Jeff Garcia, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Charlie Frye UFA Seattle Seahawks
Brooks Bollinger UFA Dallas Cowboys
Chris Simms UFA Tennessee Titans
J.T. O’Sullivan UFA San Francisco 49ers
Matt Gutierrez UFA New England Patriots
Gibran Hamdan UFA Buffalo Bills
Luke McCown UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Brock Berlin RFA St Louis Rams
Shane Boyd RFA Houston Texans
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 2:34 PM CST
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Boller, Batch, Simms, McCown
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on
Jan 6, 2009 2:35 PM CST
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Ramsey, Batch, and McCown are very proven backups.
I think Batch may be the best backup QB in the league.
by Mandmeisterx on
Jan 6, 2009 2:36 PM CST
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Warner?
He’s a UFA? Would the Cards really let him walk? Seems like the better QB’s on that list would want a shot at starting. Hows about Orton or Leftwich.
by Boundforbeach on
Jan 6, 2009 2:49 PM CST
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mccown
give me Luke McCown or Kyle Boller and don’t draft one..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 3:21 PM CST
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McCown
Boller is garbage
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 4:04 PM CST
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co-sign
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on
Jan 6, 2009 9:36 PM CST
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Rosenfels, yikes
He’s inconsistently decent, which I guess is fine for a backup, but I still can’t get over his Romoesque performance against the Colts this season. Anyone remember that horror show?
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on
Jan 6, 2009 2:34 PM CST
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While were at it and we may need a ILB....
Eric Barton, UFA, New York Jets
Jordan Beck, UFA, Denver Broncos
Monty Beisel, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Channing Crowder, UFA, Miami Dolphins
Karlos Dansby, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Tyjuan Hagler, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
Ray Lewis, UFA, Baltimore Ravens
Willie McGinest, UFA, Cleveland Browns
Mike Peterson, UFA, Jacksonville Jaguars
Carlos Polk, UFA, San Diego Chargers
Bart Scott, UFA, Baltimore Ravens
Terrell Suggs, UFA, Baltimore Ravens
Jonathan Vilma, UFA, New Orleans Saints
Sam Williams, UFA, Oakland Raiders
Rocky Boiman UFA Philadelphia Eagles
John DiGiorgio RFA Buffalo Bills
Keith Ellison RFA Buffalo Bills
Buster Davis ERFA Detroit Lions
Larry Izzo UFA New England Patriots
Zach Thomas UFA Dallas Cowboys
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 2:35 PM CST
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I don't know a lot of these names
Some look familiar but past their sell-by date
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on
Jan 6, 2009 2:37 PM CST
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That would be a killer signing, but he'd cost a boatload of cash...
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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Jan 6, 2009 9:37 PM CST
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Ravens
Can we just subcontract our linebacker drafting to them?
Rocky Boiman – didn’t he leave training camp with a bus ticket and a smooth million?
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 2:38 PM CST
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Crowder could be a guy to look at too.
A guy with some talent who you wouldn’t have to break the bank for.
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Jan 6, 2009 3:41 PM CST
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I never said we wouldn't be aquiring another QB
I’m all for it as having a good backup is obviously necessary and has nothing to do with whether Romo can be trusted, thats absurd.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 2:57 PM CST
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Romo can't be trusted protecting the ball....
that’s the obvious…..He has shown it time and time again. This organization will have to move in a different direction eventually if he continues this path. I like Romo, but his game regressed this season and we can’t have that type of play in the future if we plan on winning..
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 6:48 PM CST
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if he's protected, he wouldn't fumble
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 8:44 PM CST
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Once again
What do you consider protected?
Should he go through the whole season never taking a hit? I’ve never seen that before.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 8:48 PM CST
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no, not at all
I just expect the same kind of protection other top qbs get like Manning, Brees, Rivers and Warner.
Romo had that kind of protection this year, we’re still playing this weekend.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 8:55 PM CST
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and he would never fumble
Would he hold the ball differently? Those quarterbacks still get hit.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 10:46 PM CST
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not nearly as much obviously
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 7:49 AM CST
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Rivers was sacked more times than Romo.
Rivers was sacked 25 times in 503 attempts, Romo 20 in 470. That’s once every 20 dropbacks for Rivers, once every 23.5 for Romo. Warner was sacked once every 24. That’s not much different. Rivers fumbled 8 times, Warner 11, and Romo 13.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 10:17 AM CST
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like I said before
its more than sacks when talking about protection, its about pressure first and foremost.
Romo has a much quicker release than River, thence the fewer sacks, but that doesn’t mean Rivers was pressured more, quite the contrary.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 10:22 AM CST
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So other QBs are never pressured, except when sacked?
Every QB gets pressure, every QB gets hurried, every QB gets hit. Most QBs get sacked at a similar rate as Romo, except a few guys. Those guys might have a different offensive game plan or quicker release, or it could be their line is superior.
But the point is, if that is case, that your line is porous, but is able to get your backs over 4 yards per carry, or 5 if it’s Tashard Choice, then why are you passing 45 times per game? If that is truly the case, then that is just a colossal failure on the part of the offensive coaching staff, because they are almost deliberately sabotaging the team. I have lost a lot of faith in this staff, but I have to think that if their line is failing that often, they wouldn’t respond by calling more pass plays as the season went on rather than less.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 10:30 AM CST
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Garrett was a former qb
he wills always run his offense through the qb, especially if he has a good one.
I never said other qbs aren’t pressured, but in the last 4 games of the Cowboys season, no qb came close to being pressured as Romo was, not even close.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 10:34 AM CST
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They did play 4 of the top 5 defenses.
They threw 45 times per game in the last 4 games. Tashard Choice was the main back for those games, and he averages 5 yards per carry. To me, the problem is clearly play calling rather than the line. Even if it is the line, why is the coaching staff having the QB throw the ball that often if the line can’t hold up, while your RB is running well with only 15 carries per game? If your QB is under as much pressure as you say, and your RB is running well, and it’s a close game, why would you pass more than you normally do?
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 7, 2009 11:16 AM CST
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your argument makes sense
but Garrett is like Reid, he’s obsessed with throwing the ball and attacking the defenses down field
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 7, 2009 1:09 PM CST
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That's actually a correctible problem.
It’s something he’s gotta commit to improving from here on out… and go through continuous repetition to get himself in the habit and discipline of taking care of da rock in situations where he wants to force something that’s not there.
An experienced coach would be an absolute plus in helping him with this.
But it all starts with him.
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by silverblue5 on
Jan 6, 2009 9:43 PM CST
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QB coach
Wilson needs to go. Somebody needs to teach Romo how to hold the ball, and how to throw it away.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 10:47 PM CST
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They protected Romo better this year than last year.
It’s the play calling more than the line. Everyone says the line regressed, but they protected as well as the Giants line, which is considered a good line, and they protected Romo better than they did last year. The running backs also averaged more yards per carry this year, despite Barber averaging less.
The truth of the matter is, that loss to the Rams is what really hurt the Cowboys more than anything else. I pick that loss because they were not a good team, and the Cowboys looked like they quit in that game. 5 of their other 6 losses were against teams that are in the divisional round of the playoffs. They were blown out 3 times, and in all 3 games, it looked like they quit.
They need to make things easier on the big men on their line by running more, and wearing down the defense. By passing so often, they wear down the offensive line instead. A few more running plays also gives the defense a little more rest each game. Maybe the team won’t be so worn out by December.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 2:59 PM CST
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Rams Game
Weirdest thing was scoring a nice methodical TD on the first drive – and then just folding. Bizarre in game transformation by the offense.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 3:01 PM CST
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then why was Romo running for his life a lot more?
I very much disagree they protected better this season or even as close as the GMen OL. If you’re basing your conclusion on sacks allowed, thats a failed analysis, you have to include pressured and hurried stats as well which I assume you didn’t.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 3:03 PM CST
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Provide them for me, and I will factor them in.
Pressures and hurries are not real stats. I can only go by something that is quantifiable, and not something that is based on perception. Romo was sacked less per pass play this year than he was last year. The running backs gained more per carry this year than they did last year. Part of the reason teams got after Romo more was that after 2 years, they knew not to fear the run with Garrett calling the plays. The Felix Jones injury was probably the one that hurt the Cowboys the most this year, because without a breakaway back, teams could guess pass almost every down and not have to worry too much if they were wrong.
Penalties, turnovers, and poor play calling were what killed this team, not the offensive line’s blocking abilities. Those are factors of discipline and coaching. The line did not play any more poorly or with any less discipline most other units on the team, including the quarterbacks.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST
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they are real stats
Thats why each game the analysts show how many times a qb has been sacked, pressured and hurried. They are just as quantifiable as sacks and actually are the cause of most turnovers by a qb.
Don’t kid yourself, the penalties and turnovers can be directly attributable to the OLs poor play. Once a play breaks down and all hell breaks loose, turnovers are much more likely to happen and the reason plays break down is because of poor OL play.
Play calling was fine, the lack of execution up front is what did this offense in.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 4:10 PM CST
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Where can I find them?
They also count dropped passes, but that is not an official stat, because it is subjective, like hurries and pressures. If a QB is not really under pressure, but rolls toward it, is that a true pressure? What is considered a hurry? Isn’t almost every play where the opposing defense is attempting to get to the QB a hurry? Obviously, if a QB gets sacked, he doesn’t throw an interception. But sometimes, when a QB is dropping back 45 times a game, he feels pressure that is not real and scrambles, instead of stepping up in the pocket.
The line performed as well as they did last year, defenses just had a better handle on what we were going to try, and how to prevent us from succeeding.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 6:52 PM CST
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You dont need to find stats...........
to know that Romo was getting blasted every time he dropped back. Damn Baked, i thought you were making some good points until this one.
by TARHEEL PAUL on
Jan 6, 2009 8:09 PM CST
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All quarterbacks get hit.
It’s not just Romo. And obviously the more you throw the ball, the more your QB is going to get hit. If we’re going to keep throwing most downs, they are going to keep blitzing.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 10:57 PM CST
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thats simply not true
the OL regressed tremendously, that is what truly regressed in our offense.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 8:45 PM CST
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Dropped passes,
that is a trip. I’ve seen a CB do a great job of defensing a pass, and it goes down as a drop. Especially against a certain receiver whose name shall go unspoken.
by elharpo on
Jan 6, 2009 8:47 PM CST
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I'm ready for ant change, just for the sake of change!
Don’t care if we lose; Over the last 5 or 6 years I have becpme quite use to it. I just want to see an attitude change and maybe some spark.
by bad knees on
Jan 6, 2009 12:56 PM CST
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Remember Marty Schottenheimer?
He was going to get one more year before his staff was raided. If Wade’s staff is raided, would Jerry reconsider keeping him and can him like Marty was canned?
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on
Jan 6, 2009 1:03 PM CST
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No causal relationship
A.J. Smith fired Schottenheimer because they didn’t get along.
He was ripped for doing it after Cam Cameron and Wade got HC jobs. He didn’t do it because they left.
by Rafael Vela on
Jan 6, 2009 1:04 PM CST
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I don't care if Garrett stays or goes
As long as there is improvement in the offense next year.
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on
Jan 6, 2009 1:14 PM CST
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Called that one yesterday
Garrett getting hired gives Jones the pretext for reneging on his “continuity” plan. It delivers a body to satisfy Owens & Co., and opens the door for Jerry to open his wallet for Holmgren or Shanahan. Don’t believe either coach’s statement of not wanting to coach in 2009 (actually, Shanahan qualified his statement with the qualifying “unless the perfect situation opens up”). Each of them know you don’t get many chances to play the big room, as Parcells put it.
Put me down as dubious that Garrett does in fact get hired, and put me down as believing that, in the long run, it will be best for the Cowboys and the development of our celebrity QB that he stay.
by NCCowboy on
Jan 6, 2009 1:18 PM CST
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Lets see...
Grize,
You give too much credit to Garrett for the last year’s 13-3 offensive fire work…!!! I think much of the credit for the last year play calling left for Miami (Head coach)…!
Maybe, just maybe.. Jason is not the Genius we all believed to be.
The fact that he did not use all the talent (3 RB’s and the all the WR’s) should tell us something. I know injuries were a big factor, but other teams have them too. So before we crown him (not saying you are), lets be cognizant of the fact that Soprano was here last year and probably had a lot to do with the offensive fire power we enjoyed. Just saying…
by CDR on
Jan 6, 2009 1:18 PM CST
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NCCowboy
Does Jerrah really need a “pretext” to change his mind? It’s his team. Perhaps he stupidly shouldn’t have committed to Wade before the Iggles game, but I’m sure he felt the need to vocalize his support and strengthen Wade’s hand when all the rumors of team infighting broke out. He can fire Wade tomorrow and hire Shanahan (after complying with the Rooney rule). Do you really think he is worried about the grief he would get for such a flip-flop? The media, fans and blogs flame him daily. He doesn’t need a pretext to do what he thinks is best for the club.
by Boundforbeach on
Jan 6, 2009 1:30 PM CST
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Saving Face
Men like Jerry Jones are loathe to admit making mistakes. He’ll want a reason to justify changing his mind. He won’t admit that his “continuity” plan was wrong, rather it was overcome by events.
by NCCowboy on
Jan 6, 2009 1:51 PM CST
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If he needs a reason...
then he should just ‘man-up’ and state that the team has obviously quit on Wade (evidenced by the Philly debacle) and that he couldn’t pass up a chance for a coach the caliber of Shanahan, whom no one ever expected would be available this offseason.
by Boundforbeach on
Jan 6, 2009 1:55 PM CST
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Promote Garrett
Tony Romo is a poor-man’s Matt Leinart. The former USC star has more game off the field and, at the age of 25 with prototype size, his upside is unknown. The slippery fingered Buckner is pushing 30 and has clearly reached his ceiling. With a pear-shaped physique, a history of unfathomable failures, and a quitters’ mentality, no coach is going to win with this immature, Tila Tequilla-chasing QB at the helm. Get on with the future and promote Jason Garrett – let our bright young leader learn on the job while the Cowboys continue their search for a blue-chip quarterback.
by Montecito Tex on
Jan 6, 2009 1:44 PM CST
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More game off the field?
Who — Paris Hilton? Please. Carrie Underwood and Romo’s Dukes of Hazzard babe shows serious game, especially considering how goofy he looks. As for your calls to replace him as QB, well, er, you’re clearly all hat and no cattle…
by Boundforbeach on
Jan 6, 2009 2:00 PM CST
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Your pear-shaped physique joke is already old...one person laughed...move on
by AikmanNailedMySis on
Jan 6, 2009 2:10 PM CST
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That's the missing ingredient!
Henson will lead us to the promised land. Tell ’em, Tex!
by illcowboy on
Jan 6, 2009 3:52 PM CST
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Fire Wade Now!
Raf made the point two days ago that “you can’t fly with a lame duck,” and that if JJ is thinking of a coaching chance, he should do it now or not at all. But the fact of the matter is that he is already a “lame duck.” It’s been widely recoginzed for over a year that Garrett was the Head Coach in waiting. The players know that, and it no doubt undercut Wade’s authority this season. Now that the Boys are apparently willing to let Garrett explore other opportunities, what message does that deliver? Wade has been a lame duck, and there is waning confidence in Garrett. Time for a change.
by Boundforbeach on
Jan 6, 2009 1:48 PM CST
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Garrett called the plays. Romo sent the ball to the opposition. Romo...
is the one who needs to change his game. He’s way to casual with the ball, and reverts to playground habits when in trouble. If Romo keeps coughing up the ball, the play caller is helpless.
Some players ‘need’ to be screamed at. Wade’s version of Mr. Nice Guy has not worked on Romo. Wade is Wade, so I really don’t expect we’ll see a Vince Lombardy impersonation any time soon. Unfortunately, Romo may need just that.
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by CowboyMan on
Jan 6, 2009 1:50 PM CST
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when in trouble is the key
we need to sure up the o line and give romo time… how do we do that? um… we rush for 200 yards a game with our batallion of a backfield
by CowboysFan4Life on
Jan 6, 2009 2:23 PM CST
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Why do we line up in the shotgun so much?
Because Tom Brady did it throughout last year, and made NE more explosive. Remember, Romo wanted to be like Brady.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on
Jan 6, 2009 3:14 PM CST
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Is that really why?
I thought it was because Romo has trouble making quick reads. It might just be my perception, but his quick passes always seem off the mark. I assumed that putting him in the shotgun was to give him more space to read the defense and work through his progressions. I thought that maybe they thought putting Romo in the shotgun would let him see more and make a quick pass, instead of using a 3 step drop back.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 3:19 PM CST
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actually one of Romo's best assets is making quick reads
They went shotgun a lot because he feels more comfortable from it, he played his entire college career in shotgun.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 4:11 PM CST
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Romo did have too many turnovers..
..but what were the circumstances?
1) Bad throw due to hand or back injury?
2) Communication mix up with receiver
3) Hit in the backfield during a throw?
4) Fumbled while scrambling?
5) Bad decision downfield? (ie throwing into coverage)
6) Bad throw (inaccurate)
In my opinion 1-4 may not be entirely Romo’s fault. If he’s hurt, or the receiver cuts off a route or he’s hit while throwing..the guy needs to get a pass on these. Why is he scrambling? Poor blocking? Great defensive coverage? Again, not really his fault, but he is guilty of holding on too long trying to make a play. If he makes the play, he’s brilliant, if not..he’s getting the heat that he is getting now.
If he fumbled while scrambling?…you could argue that he needs to tuck the ball but then if he’s waiting for a receiver to get open downfield, he needs to have it ready to throw as well.
5 & 6, his fault. How many of his turn overs were for what reasons?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on
Jan 6, 2009 3:17 PM CST
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How many times can something not be somebody's fault,
before it’s decided that it might be partially their fault?
The big problem, is that in the losses, the ball is in Romo’s hand too often. The Cowboys had 13 more pass plays per game in their losses with Romo than in their wins. He averaged 35 attempts per game. Get that number down to 25-30, and you eliminate probably 8 sacks and 8 turnovers over the course of the season.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 3:23 PM CST
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I'm not trying to absolve Romo..
..but I am saying that to fix the problem you just don’t have him pass less, you need to analyze what happened.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on
Jan 6, 2009 3:26 PM CST
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Run More and Pass Less Does Fix the Problem
The D can’t bring the same pressure to Romo while chasing the 3 headed monster churning behind the Boys massive Oline. Likewise it’s much easier to pass on 2nd and 5 when the D is thinking run, then 3rd and 8 and they know it’s a pass.
by birdness on
Jan 6, 2009 3:54 PM CST
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They might have to cut down on Romo's pass attempts to manage the game better...
I hate to say it, but we might have to take the approach the NY Giants did with Eli. When Eli is asked to throw the ball too much he makes mistakes. This seems to be the same with Romo, especially this season.
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 6:54 PM CST
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right on the money Vance, you nailed it
protect Romo and his receivers get open, he’ll pick apart any defense as well as P Manning.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 4:14 PM CST
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something will have to give
Continue to be a vertical offense and protect better or shorten the routes and compensate for the line..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 4:47 PM CST
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That's true of any quarterback.
Any NFL level quarterback will pick apart a defense given enough time.
by Baked Potato Soup on
Jan 6, 2009 6:54 PM CST
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thats not true of any qb
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 8:46 PM CST
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Jason Garrett...Head Coach?
I would like to hear some arguments as to why bloggers think Jason Garrett would make a good head coach. Maybe Garrett has It, but maybe not. I pretty much don’t have an opinion on this because there isn’t too much I know about him that is relevant to being a Head Coach.
I believe the qualities needed to be a successful coordinator (offense or defense) are quite different than the qualities that make a good Head Coach. Sort of like the difference between a good Chief Executive Officer and a good Chief Operating Officer. I believe a successful Head Coach needs to be a Leader. He needs a vision and the ability to have everyone buy into that vision. He should motivate and be able to turn 53 guys and a bunch of assistant coaches into a Team. A successful Head Coach should hire excellent men for his staff and then let them do their jobs. If a Head Coach is mired down doing the jobs of his assistants, something is clearly wrong.
Be honest – when you see Wade Phillips on the sidelines, does he look like a Leader the way Bill Cowher used to? Based on what you hear, does he inspire confidence and have a vision? In my opinion, Wade Phillips is a prime example of a great coordinator who doesn’t have what it takes to be a great head Coach. What makes bloggers think Jason Garrett will be a great Head Coach?
The Dallas Cowboys need to become more disciplined and more focused – this means fewer turnovers, fewer penalties and fewer mental lapses. Above all, they need to become a TEAM – a team that will ‘show up’ every week. I really do not think Wade is the man to lead that very significant transformation. Is Jason Garrett?
by Cowboy Louie on
Jan 6, 2009 3:35 PM CST
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He did in 07
Remember how relieved everybody that the players were after Parcells left? Roy Williams even changed his number to get a fresh start. I think JuJones was pretty happy about the coaching change, maybe a few others.
by birdness on
Jan 6, 2009 3:57 PM CST
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Bill Cowher?
I can’t stand that people think Bill Cowher is so great. How long was he at Pittsburgh? How many SB trophies did he win? You would have fans beating down Jerry’s front door if it took Wade (or any other HC) that long to win a SB. Now, I’m not saying that Cowher is a bad coach but come on.
by tyler2 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:00 PM CST
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15 years as the head coach of the Steelers(a leader)
only 3 losing seasons
I superbowl
2 conference championships
9 division titles
59 games over 500
9 seasons of 10 or more wins
Sounds like a pretty good coach to me
by Deke on
Jan 6, 2009 4:20 PM CST
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yeah Parcells was a good coach with Belichick as DC
Take away Belichick, Parcells didn’t win anything. Same with Cowher, his teams were mediocre at best without Dick LeBeau.
The few years he went to coach the Bengals, the Steelers were horrible. LeBeau came back and all of sudden they’re good again.
Cowher is overrated, LeBeau is the real man behind the Steelers success.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 4:27 PM CST
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I could see that..
He leaves, and LeBeau is still there and they go 10-6 and 12-4..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 4:51 PM CST
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never disappointing
thanks for the laughs, Terry!
by Joey2zs on
Jan 6, 2009 5:22 PM CST
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nothin but da truth bud
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 8:48 PM CST
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Coming soon...'The puppet Master'
Wade phillips will never be a head coach in the nfl after it’s all said and done with Dallas.
Jason Garrett is just a fresh new face in the nfl which every owner is dying for but in reality we overpaid once again.I look at Jason and he looks soft as a grape…Until i see him prove himself as a coordinator i would not jump the gun.We don’t need another episode of the “puppet master” here in Dallas. Nobody wants to win more than Jerry but he needs to back off a bit and let someone else do their thing. Jerry don’t know jack about football..
by biz is winning on
Jan 6, 2009 6:20 PM CST
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Wade
is the worst looking coach on the sideline I have ever seen. He either is smiling at a good play or just looking so lost. Any demaner would be better than his.
by goat3000 on
Jan 6, 2009 3:58 PM CST
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Well then, you never saw Abe Gibron did you?
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by CowboyMan on
Jan 6, 2009 8:05 PM CST
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Jason Garrett's Price tag
1. Probably why he passed on Detroit, he knew wasn’t going to get what he is making as OC here, better yet a raise..
2. He probably will not get the Denver job because of the price tag. Are you really going to pay Jason G. 3+ mil, if you can get McDaniels for 2.0-2.5 Mil?
Pat Kirwan on Siruis nfl radio made the points, but they make sense. Jim Miller said that McDaniels is high on their list..
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by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 5:16 PM CST
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OK, haters...
(not you Wmillion, just piggybacking on your thought) Let’s ask ourselves, how could it be that Jason Garrett is so poor at his job, yet if money were no object, he’d be the HEAD COACH of SEVERAL other professional football teams?
Examine that. How can that be?
Eyes that are far, far more practiced and expert than our own see a guy in whom they want to invest many years and many millions of dollars to guide their franchise through the next decade.
by Joey2zs on
Jan 6, 2009 5:34 PM CST
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If I am Denver
I hire Spaqs and keep the OC in place..
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by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 6:20 PM CST
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I read somewhere he wasnt that impressive in the interview. Guy can call a game though.
by squidlo97 on
Jan 6, 2009 7:27 PM CST
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interesting
I would love to be a fly on the wall in the interview process for Head Coaching position.. GM, too..
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by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 7:35 PM CST
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Adam Shefter said it last night he wasn't impressive in his interview.
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 7:43 PM CST
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wow..
I wonder what he said or didn’t say..
I know he was on interview tour.
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by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 7:57 PM CST
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It might have been that he was more focused on the next game
and therefore came to the interveiw unprepared
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 6, 2009 8:11 PM CST
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I read that he was not impressive in his interview with the Jets
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on
Jan 7, 2009 5:39 PM CST
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Head coaching is more than X's and O's
Garrett, it seems, is very insparational in interviews, and may very well be a good head coach. If he surrounds himself with a great staff. Being a great coordinator however, is about X’s and O’s. He has shown great potential, but great/good he is not.
by elharpo on
Jan 6, 2009 8:53 PM CST
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Players cut sooner this year?
A few things to think about this off-season regarding potential signings, cuts, etc. …
- The cap will be $123 million. As we talked about yesterday, the Cowboys created $5.7 million in space after adding a clause to Rodney Hannah’s contract for the final week of
the season. The Cowboys figure to have around $10 million in space come March.
- The Cowboys have five restricted free agents – Tony Curtis, Miles Austin, Sam Hurd, Cory Procter, Stephen Bowen – and none of them were drafted. Why does that matter? Well, if they sign with another team the Cowboys would only have the right to match the offer. They would not receive draft-pick compensation if they gave the players the low tender.
What are the tender offers:
Low tender – $1.010 million
Second round – $1.545 million
First round – $2.198 million
First- and third-round – $2.792 million
- The June 1 rule is gone. Before teams could cut a player on or before June 1 and spread the salary cap hit over two years. Now they can’t because this is the last capped year.
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by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 5:22 PM CST
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So 2010 is when we can win our Championship.
Jerry will just buy all the stars.
by houseofprime on
Jan 6, 2009 5:52 PM CST
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and so will Napoleon Snyder over there in DC
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on
Jan 6, 2009 10:04 PM CST
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Next offseason is going to be fun.
by houseofprime on
Jan 6, 2009 6:05 PM CST
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especially coming off a super bowl.
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by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 6:20 PM CST
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bye-bye...Hurd, Curtis, Proctor..the only one's I see here is Bowen and Austin.
after the the other cuts are made we could be looking in the area of 12-15, maybe more under the cap.
ILB and NT has to be a priority this offseason.
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 7:17 PM CST
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1st round tender for Austin?
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by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 7:19 PM CST
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probably a first a third...he is a RFA..
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 7:42 PM CST
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I think 1st is enough people are giving up the 1st for him..
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by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 7:52 PM CST
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I think it's a first and third or two first...that's the only options on tenders....
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 7:54 PM CST
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it's
either a one 2nd, or one 1st, or 1st and 3rd
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by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 7:56 PM CST
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well....there not losing Austin so whatever they do it will be high...
they like him alot and he has more of a future on this team than TO and Crayton.
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 8:03 PM CST
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No way a first and a third!
The Cowboys would love to get a first round pick for someone signing Miles Austin. Don’t get me wrong – I really like the kid. But getting a first round pick back would be huge.
Dallas made this mistake with MB3 last season. They put the 1st and 3rd round tender on him and it scared everyone away. If they had only put a first round tender on him, someone may have jumped – and now we wouldn’t be saddled with his obnoxious 7-year contract. And, we would have had three first round picks last draft, not two.
Barring any dramatic cuts, it’s going to be the TO and RW show next year at WR, with Crayton getting time as well. Austin isn’t going to make that big an impact in 2009. If we did not trade for RW, I would feel stronger about keeping Austin because I think he is going to be a player in this league. But as of right now, he’s the odd man out. Turning an odd man out into a first round pick would be huge.
by Cowboy Louie on
Jan 6, 2009 7:54 PM CST
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Have to disagree with you on Austin.....
He was pushing Crayton out prior to his injury and before we acquired RW. He will be the #2 on this team once TO is released or retires, whichever comes first. Austin makes plays every time he is on the field. He is one of the few we have that can stretch the field with his speed. He will be the #3 come Sept. Crayton will be reduced to the #4 Wr and punt returner. It was already happening this year….
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 8:01 PM CST
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maybe but
but question is whether you would trade Austin for a first round pick in the 2009 draft.
I would do that in a heartbeat.
by Cowboy Louie on
Jan 7, 2009 9:29 AM CST
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me too.....heartbeat..
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on
Jan 7, 2009 10:38 PM CST
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draft a rookie and hope he isn't a bust?
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by Wmillion on
Jan 7, 2009 11:02 PM CST
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On what basis is Austin worth more than a 4th rounder?
Austin’s ability to stay healthy, he had very low production this year (injured) and the only thing you can say is that he has the potential to be more but no team will give you a 1st. If you were talking hypothetically then fine, but I do not think your comment is based on reality.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on
Jan 8, 2009 8:21 AM CST
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understand the entire chain
boyzfan94 said we should put the first and third round tender on Austin. I said no, put the first only. Maybe someone will bite. Probably not, but maybe. However, if you don’t put the first round tender on him then another team can sign him to a long-term contract that may not fit into our cap and we would lose him without compensation. I have no problem paying Austin $2.198M for 2009. I do, however, have a problem with letting him go scott free or having to match a large, multi-year contract from another team. Hence the first round tender. It buys us a year at $2.198M, after which Ownes will likely be gone and we will have a better guage of Austin’s worth.
by Cowboy Louie on
Jan 8, 2009 4:27 PM CST
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Can't put the 1st and 3rd tag on him anyway
That’s for unrestricted guys. He’s a RFA. There’s just the compensation that Raf mentioned. I’d at least put the 2nd round tender on him. He’s definitely worth that and I wouldn’t cry if he got a 1st round tender like Canty did.
by kameleon_o on
Jan 8, 2009 5:26 PM CST
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And let's not forget the factor that makes all things equal
it’s called injuries.
Having Austin — experienced in the O-system — adds quality depth (pending he stays healthy, of course).
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by silverblue5 on
Jan 6, 2009 10:06 PM CST
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We have a pro bowl nose tackle and an offensive line that leaks like a sieve and has gotten our expensive QB hurt multiple times.
Why is it the priority.
by squidlo97 on
Jan 6, 2009 7:30 PM CST
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Ratliff is not a NT....He did a great job, but he wore down the stretch
We can’t expect him to hold up for the long haul. He is going to be moved to DE count on it. Can’t do anything with the OL, except improve the depth. The starters are locked in. With Canty probably lost and Spears in limbo and going into his final year we need Ratliff at DE. We need a space eater NT…..This D-line is going to look alot different come Sept..
by Boyzfan94 on
Jan 6, 2009 7:41 PM CST
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I agree
if there is NT of value that the team should go after them.. Having two guys who can command double teams on the line, means more sacks, and better run support..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on
Jan 6, 2009 7:55 PM CST
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plus
more one on ones with ware
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on
Jan 6, 2009 8:02 PM CST
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OL can be pushed though through draft choices
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 6, 2009 8:52 PM CST
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Show Romo a film of the 1994 Nfc Championship.
That’s what it takes to become a real Qb.Troy Aikman got pummeled in that game but he got up after every play and played with heart and soul..If you wanjt to talk about offensive line play or make excuses for Romo use that game as an example..This O line crap has been going on for i don’t know how long..Tony needs to grow a set and play some ball.
The ultimate warrior Troy Aikman.
by biz is winning on
Jan 6, 2009 9:00 PM CST
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That's not how it works
Once the line shows, consistently, that Romo will never get touched, he will work on ball protection.
I didn’t know it until I joined this site, but QBs are only responsible for fumbles when nobody lays a hand on them. In the face of a blitz, or an injured o-line, they can be as reckless as they want with the football and scapegoat the line.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 9:03 PM CST
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not directed at squidlo
I think O line depth is a priority, but it seems like depth everywhere is a priority.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 6, 2009 9:04 PM CST
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I am with you, I go Oline first 3 picks unless the right safety falls at the right time.
By that I mean to sell out to move up. If we improve our line, we improve our backs and more importantly Romo. Thats 3 for 1. Hell we had 59 sacks with two big holes(wide open WRs for the other team)in our secondary,and imagine what we could have done if we actually led and, god forbid, routing someone early. I want a safety, we need a safety, but oline boosts this team up even more.(I would still take a safety any round if warranted)

