Adam We Hardly Knew Ye: The Cowboys Cut Pacman Jones
by Rafael Vela on Jan 7, 2009 5:33 PM CST
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The Pacman experiment has ended. ESPN is running a crawl announcing the Cowboys have released the troubled Adam Jones.
Jones was part of Dallas' carpet-bombing approach to the cornerback position in the '08 offseason. After losing Jacques Reeves and Nate Jones in free agency, the Cowboys finished March with only starters Anthony Henry and Terence Newman on the roster, and both were going to be 30 or older at some point in the campaign.
The Cowboys gave the then suspended Jones a chance to revive his career and figured he could be a quality nickel back and punt returner while rookies Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick adjusted to the pro game.
Jones was valuable early, when Newman was hobbled by a hernia. However, he lost his place and tried the team's patience when he fought with his bodyguard in a Dallas hotel bathroom. The tiff led to Jones' suspension.
The team learned in his absence that Scandrick and Jenkins could play. The team probably thought he would block the kids going forward.
Jones was a bust as a punt returner, averaging just 4.5 yards per return. Add the medical risk from a neck injury he suffered against Pittsburgh and that he's on his ninth NFL life and the Cowboys must have decided the time was right to move on without him.
You wonder if today's hiring of the no-nonsense special teams coach Joe DeCamillis had something to do with the release of the all-nonsense Jones?
Note: Jones signed a multi-year deal with Dallas before the season, but it provided no signing bonus. The Cowboys suffered no cap damage by releasing him.
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Production didn't equal distractions
Don’t blame Jerry for trying, though. The kids can play so we don’t need him.
by illcowboy on Jan 7, 2009 5:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
whoo
start jenkins with newman
henry to free safety
hamlin to strong safety
scandrick still in the slot
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Jan 7, 2009 5:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Henry has one year left on his contract
He’s also 33.
This might be a one-year fix, but Dallas still needs to draft a quality safety.
Alan Ball is really happy right now. His job just became a lot more secure.
by Rafael Vela on Jan 7, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scandrick made more strides this past season...
I would rather start him opposite Newman and bring in Jenkins as a nickel corner.
by troysboys on Jan 7, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins is bigger
Scandrick plays the slot already. I think that’s where he starts ’09
by Rafael Vela on Jan 7, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking that
Scandrick can do what Newman was doing a couple of years ago. He would be the right corner and go to the slot during nickel.
by troysboys on Jan 7, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Raf....Scandricks our slot CB for the next 10 years..
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by BoyzRback on Jan 7, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we hit it big
finding two starting corners in one draft is huge..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
kinda shocked me a little, but Scanrick and Jenkins are better anyways.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 7, 2009 5:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
does anyone else think
that adam jones’ career in the nfl is most likely over?
unless al davis signs him
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Jan 7, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yup
it’s done
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 7, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
davis will sign him
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by Seanrude on Jan 7, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He will get picked up by another team for sure...
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by BoyzRback on Jan 7, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so..
As long as he gone from here, I could care less.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right here
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3817195
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
by Mullin on Jan 7, 2009 5:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dallas wasn't playing..
Wanted to announce a month in advance..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
great
offseason has had a good start with cutting pacman and the new ST coach.
Signing pacman was jerry’s first big personell mistake in the last few years. IT was a stupid decision, and i think the large majority of fans knew it. At least it didn’t hurt us too much draft wise since we got that pick for his suspension.
I can’t see too many teams taking a chance on pacman
by foyesboys on Jan 7, 2009 5:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it was a mistake
He took and chance and we really didn’t lose much from it.
by joey7289 on Jan 7, 2009 6:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was worth a shot but the juice was not worth the squeeze
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jan 7, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 7, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes. da king was smart enough to minimize the risks. at least it did net us a draft pick in April.
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by silverblue5 on Jan 7, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wrong
HIS FIRST BIG MISTAKE WASNT PAC
it was Brad Johnson
by 325424 on Jan 7, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well from what I was reading today
Johnson is all Garrett. The team wanted to look at other options, and Garrett talked them into keeping Brad.
by mhuff13 on Jan 7, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no it wasn't a personnel mistake
He’s a phenonemal athlete with who played fine before the suspension. Frankly, it worked out OK. Not nearly as good as I’d hoped, but here’s what you get…
1. duct tape over the gaping whole in the secondary early on while the fragile newman was in the shop and the newbies were figuring out their a$$es from their elbows. I hope Jenkins is still taking those anatomy lessons, btw
2. He didn’t cost much, and the Cowboys earn a draft pick for their troubles
3. His absence actually pushed the newbies along to learn how to play in the NFL… sink or swim, and they swam.
He was a net positive by the merest margin.
by Joey2zs on Jan 7, 2009 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and we got a late-round draft pick for him, too.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
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by silverblue5 on Jan 7, 2009 11:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas Cowboys.com
reporting as well
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=B375B89D-B5A6-7552-41A0F4BC656589D1
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 7, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
PEACE..
Don’t let the door hit you, where the good lord split you!!
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mangini agrees to 4-year deal
Hiring the coach before the GM interesting..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 5:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So..
Cleveland just plans on hiring Belichick’s assistants until they get it right, huh.
by troysboys on Jan 7, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it..
You hire him before you hire the GM?
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 8, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We Also Have a New Special Teams Coach
So we seem to be turning over a new leaf.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=B3518703-E882-5FF8-AC286061C4EFC571
No surprise, it’s Joe DeCamillis from Jacksonville’s staff.
by kindablue on Jan 7, 2009 5:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good riddance Pac-rat.Should of never traded for him in the first place. Best news I heard so far this year
this is a start to bringing some kind of structure into this organization, hopefully more cuts to come…
by Deke on Jan 7, 2009 5:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kinda disappointed I thought he had some real potential
But I geuss he ran out of chances, I cant rally blame Jerry
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 7, 2009 5:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good riddance
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Jan 7, 2009 5:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
“T-New, shutting down WR’s for Dallas since 2003”
i love that hahaha
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 7, 2009 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
shouldn’t that read from 2003 to 2007?
by Joey2zs on Jan 7, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
What is interesting is that you defend Pacman. In fact, it’s downright hilarious.
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Jan 8, 2009 4:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is reporting...
… for those that didnt tune out after reading that….
i just saw/heard on ESPN that there might be some additional claims/developments from the previous makin it rain debacle…
by JoeGalvan on Jan 7, 2009 5:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They said
He’s allegedly involved in another shooting at a different nightclub
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
by iCowboy on Jan 7, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah 4 months after the first
If this is true, he’ll never play in the league again. It was worth the chance but now let the young guys play.
by joey7289 on Jan 7, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this means we draft a late round cb
by staubachfan on Jan 7, 2009 6:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1.....we will need to address the CB depth now...later rounds 5-7
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by BoyzRback on Jan 7, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep WP around and go one step further
The off-season is already shaping up. Jones gone and a new ST coach hired.
These are good things, but something else would REALLY intrique me.
What if one of these teams pulls JJ off the hook and hires Garrett?
What if JJ then gave WP carte blanch to bring in HIS guys on offense and extends him for another year, thus killing the “lame duck” thing and dumping the guy seen as the “HC in waiting?”
Who would WP bring in?
by THEjarhead on Jan 7, 2009 6:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mike Shanahan, I think they have some history
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by Seanrude on Jan 7, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea the history is Shanahan replaced him as head coach in Denver...
by mhuff13 on Jan 7, 2009 11:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I was kidding
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by Seanrude on Jan 8, 2009 5:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
Now, we can get ourselves a REAL punt returner!
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 7, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yes sir..
not real familiar with the players in the draft.. any ideas?
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the national leader board
http://www.cfbstats.com/2008/leader/national/player/split01/category04/sort01.html
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Jan 7, 2009 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Javier Arenas of Alabama's the best one out there...Also would provide needed CB depth.
He has looked into declaring for draft, it’s yet official if he will come out…….I believe he could be had in the late third, early fourth round….He is by far one of the best PR’s in the country, that could help us in two areas…ST & CB…I bnelieve he has at least 7 career punt return TD’s..and averaged over 15 yards per return..
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by BoyzRback on Jan 7, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i love arenas. dynamic playmaking return man and decent corner with speed.
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by silverblue5 on Jan 7, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
added note** As of 1/01/2009 Javier Arenas had yet to inquire about possible draft projection through the NFL advisory committee
As it stands right now, The looks like he’s enjoying college, and plans to stay for his senior season….good boy, as I feel all student/athletes should remain in school……a bummer for us though…
according to The Alabama Press – Register
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by BoyzRback on Jan 7, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how old
is brandon James? (UF’s kick n punt returner) that little kid is as good as it gets.
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
by iCowboy on Jan 7, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a Junior
I HIGHLY doubt he’ll leave.
by joey7289 on Jan 7, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the history between shanahan and WP is that shanahan replaced him as HC in denver.
WP wouldn’t hire him and he would work for WP.
by THEjarhead on Jan 7, 2009 6:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I know, I was joking
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jan 7, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On another note - Reed's comments
The ravens can talk a little smack, they beat us and are still playing football.
BUT
their defense surrundered 15 points a game on average. dallas hung 24 on them, so its not like they shut us down. i guess their defense was more complicated, but dallas had it figured out by the 4th 1/4, they put up 17 on them, and that with romo getting battered.
had he not thrown two dumb picks in the first half, they likely would have scored more. if we could tackle better, i think we would have won.
throttle it back reed, you haven’t won the SB yet.
by THEjarhead on Jan 7, 2009 6:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
meh
Im fine with the comments. he said exactly what we’ve been saying in these blogs. and they won, so they can talk all they want.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 7, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
im ok with them too. had i been conducting the interview however, i might have asked why they couldnt stop an offense they had figured out in the 4th 1/4 and how glad was he that his offense ripped off a couple of big runs late.
my larger point, when you win, shut up and keep playing.
by THEjarhead on Jan 7, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
but some people just can’t get the Dallas Cowboys out of their mouth. It’s a sickness :-)
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 7, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats WOULDN’T work for WP (as an O-coord)
by THEjarhead on Jan 7, 2009 6:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I liked the Pacman signing last year
and I also liked the Tank signing but I gave way too much credit to this cowboys team for being a steady, veteran-run team. I’m glad Pac is going and hope Tank goes too. I never would have dreamed this team was so fragile to collapse as it did so the offseason seems to be moving in a good direction.
I still dream of Shanahan replacing wade but maybe fatty warbucks can squeeze something out of this team, who knows.
by Billito on Jan 7, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he squeezed something out of the defense, more so than shanahan will.
since elway left, what has shanahan done, but run a team into mediocrity? his personnel moves have been somewhat questionable.
by THEjarhead on Jan 7, 2009 6:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If you were happy with the team this year
more power to you, I had much higher expectations and I blame the coach for the extreme underachievement. Shanahan won 2 superbowls while wade has yet to sniff postseason success. I trust jerry’s personnel moves combined with shanahan’s coaching a hell of a lot more than what we have now.
by Billito on Jan 7, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
umm, when did i say i was happy with the team this year?
perhaps next year you’ll manage your expectations better and not buy the hype that they’re the most “talented team in football.”
shanahan won two SBs a long time ago. he had a rock at QB with tremendous experience.
BP won some SBs too (2 as i recall), and where did that get us? in say, the last 2-3 years, what has been special about shanahan’s coaching? why is he on the open market all of a sudden?
who will coach the defense if shanahan comes to dallas? (b/c it wont be WP).
by THEjarhead on Jan 7, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shanahan won't be naking personnel moves in Dallas with Super Genius GM Jerry Jones on board
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by Seanrude on Jan 7, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a good thing
Shanahan the coach’s greatest weakness has always been shanahan the GM
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 8, 2009 5:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Best Wishes Pac.
I understand you, I know why you do what you do.
But you cant be counted on, so this is the right move.
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 7, 2009 6:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wait
Why does he do what he does?
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to explain,
I guess because it impresses people, early in life. Then as you grow up, you realize that the people you were trying to impress have been standing on the same corner doing nothing for 10 years.
I didnt have my moment of clarity until I got locked up. Maybe that’s what it will take for him. I hope he figures it out.
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 7, 2009 9:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I got ya..
He is product of his environment and can’t leave it behind..
Sadly simple..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man I'm finally
back I’ve had computer problems and then I was stuck in a bar in nowhere, SC for the 44-6 goatfest and I made my wife find a public library so I could read BTB but I had to wait three days and I was going crazy and i’ve had about 60 comments to post but now it seems too late and they would be ridiculous.
BUT..adios, Pac——when they release Jerry, let me know.
by Elwood62 on Jan 7, 2009 6:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
THANK YOU JERRY!!!
First time in over a week a smiled ….
by canty99 on Jan 7, 2009 7:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Know...
How can you really give up on a guy that was playing his first year after being suspended for a year? He could’ve really stepped up next season. You can’t blame a guy who really wanted to be a Cowboy.
I hope he has success wherever he lands.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Jan 7, 2009 7:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He'll land in pro wrestling
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Jan 7, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but it will be women's wrestling this time
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by Seanrude on Jan 7, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why.. If there is any truth to this, his career in the NFL is over..
IRVING, Texas — The Cowboys have released Adam “Pacman” Jones and a team source told ESPN’s Ed Werder that the move was made after the team learned of new allegations against the troubled cornerback from his time with the Titans.
Jones
Jones’ release came after “Outside the Lines” reporter John Barr contacted the NFL, the Cowboys and Jones’ attorneys about a piece scheduled to air Sunday in which three Atlanta-area men allege that Jones arranged for someone to shoot at them two months after the football player was suspended by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in 2007.
The June 2007 shooting occurred outside a suburban Atlanta strip club. One of the shooting victims told “Outside the Lines” that he had a dispute with Jones inside the strip club and that not long after he and the two others left the club, a hail of bullets struck their car. The NFL knew about that incident, but charges were never brought against anyone because the victims did not see the shooter.
from espn article.
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by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry - ESPN
by Nelson... on Jan 7, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
after reading more
The NFL knew, the poice are no longer investigating..
I am still glad he is gone..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If the allegations are correct...then i can no longer defend Pacman being here...sure is a damn shame..
see ya Pac….
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by BoyzRback on Jan 7, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
um
that’s not news, fellas. That’s what’s called “unfounded allegations.” It’s the first step in what someone is probably hoping will be a civil suit.
I don’t know a lot, as many of you will attest, but i’m relatively certain that the Atlanta PD isn’t blase’ about attempted murder. If there was any evidence linking pac or his posse, he’d have been arrested.
BTW, who has a dispute in a strip club? What the heck is going on that 1. you’re talkign to a strange dude, 2. what he says makes you WANT TO HAVE HIM KILLED? “Your technique in the short zone is lacking in some aspects… homes.”
This kid Pacman needs therapy, and it needs to be on TV.
by Joey2zs on Jan 7, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Man I dont think this is something to joke about
This is a young kid who may has already messed up his life. Its sad really
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 8, 2009 5:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pacman will end up in jail at some poit in his life.
I liked the signing at first but he is not changing his ways.To go and get suspended again after the opportunity he was given is just plain stupidity.The man is a street hood and has not learned from his mistakes.
The ultimate warrior Troy Aikman.
by biz is winning on Jan 7, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was a Pac supporter..
back when JJ took a chance on him. I fet the risk was low, the upside was good and I really felt that Pac would walk the line. I was wrong. If he stays in the league, I think he still has some good football ahead of him, but he can’t seem to grow up. That’s the real problem with him, he’s a felony waiting to happen.
If Garrett leaves, AND then gets Dom Capers as a DC, that would be like two punches in the gut. I think Garrett will bounce back next year and would like to keep him. Brian Stewart basically said he would be uncomfortable having Capers here and then showed the world that he (BS) is incompetent and exhibited why he would be uncomfortable having a guy like Capers around. I hope the next shoe drops on Stewarts head.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jan 7, 2009 7:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why, oh why ...
is Stewart still fouling the Cowboy’s locker room?
by GalTex on Jan 7, 2009 7:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
gal tex? really?
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on Jan 7, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
YES!!
Now, does he have the guts to eat TO’s contract??!!
That would be the next step.
I doubt it.
by Realist Larry on Jan 7, 2009 7:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What?
You’re crazy “Realist.”
TO’s an awesome receiver and our best player and just wants to win.
No possible way our offense can survive without him!
by Realist Larry on Jan 7, 2009 7:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just thought I'd save someone the trouble.
Yeah, he’ll be even better when he’s a year older next year.
Hard to replace 70 catches?
by Realist Larry on Jan 7, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You saved me the trouble but I'll cut and paste anyway.
What?
You’re crazy "Realist."
TO’s an awesome receiver and our best player and just wants to win.
No possible way our offense can survive without him!
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 8, 2009 5:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
couldn't have said it any better myself
+1
by joey7289 on Jan 7, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Another Jerry Jones self destructive move
Finally get Pacman healthy in all areas and OK -lets him go WTF Let me tell you Pacman is on verge being one greatestt defensve players to ever play this game and this to shall backfire on J Jones . Why is he dodging the real problems are you kiddng me. Pac will make Dallas pay believe that, he’s jus tryin to grow up like rest of us All he wanted was to be was a freakin Dallas Cowboy, he got it and did his job.He was all we had when we had no one, and played game of two guys. NFL is going to hav to start suspending half players in league to justify what they did to Pacman, used him up and spit him out. I jus pray that when Davis picks him up ,he has mercy on us SHAME ON YOU JERRY
by spursn4life on Jan 7, 2009 7:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
who knows what else may be
hanging over Pacman. Maybe they want to renegotiate his contarct.
Just listened to Cowboys website about Pacman. What a horse’s ass they are.
Basically saying Pacman played horrible in the PHilly game. At least he played with heart. The rest of the team played with no heart.
Wait until next year when Henry gets hurt as usual and fragile Newman stubs a toe. Who is our third corner?
How did Pac hold back Scandrick and Jenkins?
What a joke. Blame Pacman for everything. You want to cut bad attitudes start with ellis and some other bums.
Today was a chickenA$$ move cutting Pacman. Pick on somebody to make a statement Jerry.
How about WP/JG or even YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!
by oneforthethumb on Jan 7, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The guy missed
6 games last year, don’t act like we can count on the guy.. Great talent, just not very bright.. Good move.. Calm Down..
Newman, Jenkins, and Scandrick good core, we will need to add more. pac just wasn’t a fit..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who missed
more games last year Pacman or Newman?
by oneforthethumb on Jan 7, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's beyond that
What good did he do, he was awful on punts, awful in coverage, and recovered a fumble a blind man could have.
by joey7289 on Jan 7, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His kick return in the Raves game showed the potential that he had, but like most other areas of our ST
our return game was less than stellar. But there is no way he was “awful in coverage”. He showed potential, but he was rusty, something that happens when you sit out a whole year and miss half of another.
You can agree on Pacman’s cut on the basis of him being a liability, but to suggest he was an “awful” player is ignorant.
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 8, 2009 5:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who shut down wr's when they did play tho?
Newman
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 8, 2009 8:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Keystone State
Not in Pennsylvania
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 8, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pac and newman
Pac missed his game due to being an idiot, Newman had injury that was correctly diagnosed.
Hey if you love Pac that is your prerogative, but I am glad he is gone..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pacman missed 7 games, Newman 6
To answer your question
more games last year Pacman or Newman?
T-New, shutting down WR's for Dallas since 2003
by APerfectStar on Jan 7, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At least Newman
Did something when he came back
by joey7289 on Jan 8, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This was one of Pac's last chances in the NFL
not just for the Cowboys, the NFL.
They could have kept him on the cheap for next year. Guess he didn’t show enough promise to figure into the plan.
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 7, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The man is half retarded,he just does not get it.
The man should of been banned from the nfl after the chance they gave him.He is half retarded and deserves to make no money.
The ultimate warrior Troy Aikman.
by biz is winning on Jan 7, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Bright One...
He was suspended for drinking, he did not violate his probation therefore did not deserve to be suspended. Look at Vince Wilfork, he repeatedly hits QBs illegaly and yet Goodell didn’t suspend him. What about gun-toting Marvin Harrison? Or hit and run Marshawn Lynch? or Mr. DUI Lance Briggs?
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Jan 7, 2009 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"PacMan" wasn't suspended again by Goodell...
he was cut by JJ.
He can sign w/someone else, assuming he doesn’t have anothermcrime coming down the pipeline.
When a team has to hire a 24-hour babysitter, uh bodyguard, to watch you, you are, by definition, an immature ass. Especially when you then get in a fight with that guy!
And all this when he has an opportunity to make more money in one year than I will earn in 30.
by Realist Larry on Jan 7, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it
Michael Irvin is the gold standard by which immature asses should’ve been measured up until Pacman. If JJ needed to hire him a babysitter, he woulda. And you wouldn’t be complaining, either. And he too had an opportunity to make more money in a season than you’d make in your entire working career.
by Joey2zs on Jan 7, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Pac goes to the Pro-Bowl...
…no matter where he ends up. I liked his heart. I wish he would have earned a Pro-Bowl spot while he was here, but we all know what happened. I hope he gets his head on straight, realizes he’s been given a physical gift and turns things around. I’d love to see the kid end up in Canton and be an example to all kids. But…I just wouldn’t bet on it.
He blew it in Tenn, got a second chance here and basically blew it again. How many of us that blog on here would love to have the second chance that Pac had? Play for the Cowboys, make millions of dollars, have a great life. All you have to do is go to work, and then follow Rule A. > go home at night and mind your own business. It’s so simple…we all do it almost everyday. He even had chaperones to help him make the right decisions if he couldn’t follow rule A. You have to wonder what he might have done if those chaperones weren’t with him at all times.
I wish him the best, but you can’t go into combat with him. At the point you need him the most, he may not be in the foxhole with you.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jan 7, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 8, 2009 5:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Raf what happened to oglesby?
before the season started you were reporting that oglesby was looking good in oxnard. Whats his story?
by ThryceCubed on Jan 7, 2009 7:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He's playing for the Ravens
In-YOUR-endo
by accidental innuendo on Jan 7, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the end of that.
We gave it a shot, it didn’t work out, we moved on.
Come and whisper in my ear, give us dirty laundry - ESPN
by Nelson... on Jan 7, 2009 8:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
CB depth now a need
PAC gone and Newman with another surgery..
We are 4 deep if we move Henry..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think a top priority this draft would be to get another CB/PR guy.
It seems like we could always use depth in these areas.
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 7, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
do we have enough quality
draft picks?
We need an OL/ILB/SS
by oneforthethumb on Jan 7, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We get one back for Pac, right?
We will get some compensatory picks for Julius and maybe Nate Jones/Jacques Reeves.
I wouldn’t mind seeing them get a good speed guy with a later pick, unless somebody rockin falls to them early on.
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger on Jan 7, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stop
The only real position we need is a safety and maybe an ILB. CB and OL we can get later in the draft.
by joey7289 on Jan 7, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
more like 22 players 6 coaches 1 GM
by spursn4life on Jan 7, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the exact reason
why we should deal mb3 and get quality 2nd and 3rd round picks… or maybe even a first
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 8, 2009 8:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeh its not even an option
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 9, 2009 6:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
qb
we can sign one..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or draft in early rounds...
BEST AVAILABLE PLAYER….REGARDLESS OF POSITION…….
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Jan 7, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTB
I love how everyone here has so much class and insight on the Boys. Its great
Unlike the Philly fans I’ve seen when its Cowboys vs. Eagles
Ah, what does it matter, Philly’s in the playoffs, won their first game. We couldn’t have done that.
On lighter news, which is more crushing?
A. Last years loss to Giants after 13-3 season
B. This years loss to Ravens (or Eagles)
by jkyu2006 on Jan 7, 2009 8:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Last year
- seed losing at home is worse.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 7, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Last year
That team was good and proved it, this year we just never showed up
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 8, 2009 5:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This years losses were so so much more devastating...
A true diehard Cowboys fan since 1975.
President - Garrett MUST GO campaign -
by BoyzRback on Jan 7, 2009 8:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Matt Mosley
is a bunghole.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
by what_the_crap on Jan 7, 2009 9:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
co-sign
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]
by silverblue5 on Jan 7, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CB
I’m assuming that Dallas now will draft a CB before the 5th round after cutting Pacman.
Just heard on the radio that JG is the leading candidate for the Detroit job. Wonder who would replace him as OC if he leaves? I was thinking may be David Lee or Chris Palmer since both have worked with Romo in the past. Not sure who Wade would want.
Is Dunta Robinson (Texans) a UFA? I know he had a bad injury a few years ago but he is one tough SOB.
by tyler2 on Jan 7, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wonder who would replace him as OC if he leaves?
I think Wade would promote Ray Sherman.
by troysboys on Jan 7, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From what I've read, David Lee played a primary role in Romo's development before #9 became our starter.
Having him as Tony’s QB coach again would be a huge plus.
Unfortunately, Lee is an FOB (Friend of Bill — as in Parcells), and I just don’t see him leaving the Dolphins.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]
by silverblue5 on Jan 7, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason will look like a genius
With the lions.. 10 jump balls to Calvin a game..
Wouldn’t be suprised to see Hurd there. We have to 1st round tender Austin- JG would be all over him..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jump Ball
He never ran it in Dallas, with TO, and Roy Williams on opposites sides. I think he ran it twice. Once against Tampa, and once as a two point conversation.
by joey7289 on Jan 8, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He did it for Roy, who is jump ball WR.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 8, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I Bet Next Season...
Everyone will blame Jerry for letting Pac go. I can see it now -Both Newman and Henry more than likely will suffer some sort of injury next season.
~Texas Massacre 08~
by TheHeat on Jan 7, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
8 picks in the draft..
and free agency. We should be able to find a 1) backup QB 2) SS 3) NT 4) CB 5) OL 6) OL 7) OL 8) SS/CB
and there will be free agents and possible trades. I can only hope we get a backup QB with a cute ass. (For Tex’s sake)
Love or hate Jerry, he’s always been willing to pull the trigger on getting guys he wants.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jan 7, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
BJ is next, maybe tank too. The cutting of TO discussion will be a hot topic during
the offseason, if Dal picks up TJ Hous then TO will probably be gone.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Jan 7, 2009 10:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
9 mil in dead cap space
Not sure we could afford TJ and resigning Demarcus
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know but as a talking point it is alive and kicking, regardless if it ever becomes reality.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Jan 7, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i am with u
If we could trade it out, I would take it..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 8, 2009 12:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
jerry can do whatever he wants...
if jerry wants tj whosyourmama… he’ll get tj whosyourmama…
one thing with jerry is, he’s a smart business man and he knows the rules and how to stretch them… one way or another, he’ll find a way to get him, cut to and resign demarcus ware… jerry is as close to God as it gets in the nfl, meaning that he can do whatever he wants
by CowboysFan4Life on Jan 8, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
free agent DB's
Oshiomogho Atogwe, UFA, St Louis Rams
Tyron Brackenridge, UFA, Kansas City Chiefs
Mike Brown, UFA, Chicago Bears
Phillip Buchanon, UFA, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Chris Gamble, UFA, Carolina Panthers
Jabari Greer, UFA, Buffalo Bills
Rodney Harrison, UFA, New England Patriots
Kelvin Hayden, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
Renaldo Hill, UFA, Miami Dolphins
Daven Holly, UFA, Cleveland Browns
Sean Jones, UFA, Cleveland Browns
Bryant McFadden, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
R.W. McQuarters, UFA, New York Giants
Justin Miller, UFA, New York Jets
Lawyer Milloy, UFA, Atlanta Falcons
Deltha O’Neal, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals
Jarrad Page, UFA, Kansas City Chiefs
Jermaine Phillips, UFA, Tampa Bay Bucs
Allen Rossum, UFA, San Francisco 49ers
Darren Sharper, UFA, Darren Sharper
There are some serviceable lower level FA’s we can sign..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2009 11:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Terry
I know you are in Pa, Your thoughts on Bryant mcfadden.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 8, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is solid CB
Probably the Steelers best CB, I’d be surprised if they let him leave.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 8, 2009 7:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love it if da King signed Justin Miller...
…to a minimal contract.
He’s still young.
And when Oakland picked him up for the last few games of da regular season, he returned either one or two kickoffs for a score or two.
He’d add depth to our secondary and is a legit returner on special teams.
I remember watching him play several games on TV when he played for Clemson in college. He was doing well for the Jets until he got injured I believe in training camp or at the end of the ’07 season.
But he proved he’s all the way back after making plays for the Raiders to end the ’08 regular season.
"I got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell." -- Bruce Dickinson
www.brainfriednetwork.com [NEWS/SPORTS/FOOTBALL]
by silverblue5 on Jan 8, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Allen Rossum would solve our return problems
and I was high on Sean Jones coming out of college. Haven’t paid attention to him since he went to the Browns. Wonder if he turned out good?? He was a FS in college.
by kameleon_o on Jan 8, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Allen Rossum
Is that the same Allen Rossum that was in Atlanta with new ST Coach, Joe DeCamillas? Is he a possible FA pick up?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on Jan 7, 2009 11:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rossum is getting up there in age though...
Wouldn’t mind seeing Mike Brown get a look.
by Brandon Worley on Jan 7, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
He has injury history though..
Dunta Robinson is very intriguing guy, was playing at a very high level until the injury. Made 2.4 million last year, doubt he can look for a big payday..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on Jan 8, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rossum is old
and has zero value as a cover guy. Can Dallas give a roster spot to a guy who is
a pure punt returner?
by Rafael Vela on Jan 8, 2009 12:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure would be nice to have a threat in the ST game...
I think it would be worth the spot if it was a difference maker.
by mhuff13 on Jan 8, 2009 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Felix can do that
Similar to Reggie Bush, but Felix can actually run the ball.
by ChrisRichey on Jan 8, 2009 2:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pacman was no help
back when we first signed pac, i was aying on another blog that it would take while for him to knock rust off. guess what? he’s still rusty. he didn’t really help much at all. least it cost nothing.
by maxdout on Jan 7, 2009 11:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jus ead on the DMN blog
That Pacman plans on sueing ESPN
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 8, 2009 6:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That should say "Just read"
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 8, 2009 6:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank God!!
You should have never signed this piece of trash to begin with Jerry but great move in finally dumping his ass which should have happened after he was suspended. Clearly an overrated CB and returner and was never worth the risk.
Its only going to be a matter of time before this punk is permanently banned from the league and rotting in prison somewhere.
I think the Cowboys IQ as a team just increased 100% after this move.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 8, 2009 7:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
End of an Error
Good riddance.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
by OskieOskie on Jan 8, 2009 9:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
On Pacman, I never like to hear that the Cowboy's reclamation projects fail.
He had all the tools for success, but chose to fail. He will live his life knowing that he “…coulda been somebody”, as Brando put it, but threw it away.
Family, Friends, Cowboys, BBQ. Life is good!
by CowboyMan on Jan 8, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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