Understanding Pac

I normally don't post unless a topic arises that I feel strongly about one way or another. So in the wake of the Cowboys' release of Adam "Pacman" Jones, I will say these two things.
This is undoubtedly the right move for the Dallas Cowboys at this time.
But at the same time, I sympathize with, and understand Adam, because for a long time I was, and still am to a certain extent Pacman Jones.
I will spare you my life story, but I have to give a little perspective in order to illustrate my point. When you grow up like I did, and I am presuming Pacman did, all you have to hang your hat on is respect. Now in most of the free world, respect is given to an upstanding citizen, who takes care of his business, as it should. But in the world Pacman and I are from, respect is garnered almost exclusively through violence, and just being the wildest individual in the neighborhood. It's a right of passage. It's not right, but it's the way it is.
To get a full grasp of this, put yourself in Pacman's shoes. Through all your tough times, and limited opportunities, you have somehow managed to do the unthinkable and make it to college. You are playing big-time football, doing good for yourself. You come home to visit and find envy and resentment from your peers, to the extent that they may want to do you harm. Everyone thinks you have deserted them, and are insanely jealous because they can't stand to see you succeed while they fail. Even your own friends don't care about how many passes you picked off, or that punt return TD you had. All they want to know is "Are you still down." And let me tell you, telling them "yeah, of course" Is not going to passify them, they want you to prove it.
Same thing when you reach the NFL, they just want to know if you are still down, if you are still Pacman. Only now they know you have a lot of money, and they expect you to take care of them. A lot of these people have even started conflicts, just so they can handle them for you, so that they can show you that they are essential to your life. And I dont care what you say, it is hard to turn your back on people you have depended on your entire life.
If you make it to the NFL out of Odessa, Texas, they will put up a billboard for you. If you make it to the NFL out of the ghetto, they put a price on your head, and your family puts their hands out. You can't win even when you win.
What Pacman has to realize is that he cannot change who he is. Once the hood is in you, it's in you for life. I have not changed who I am, but I changed my environment. An alcoholic can't get clean hanging out in a bar. What Pacman has got to do is take his baby and his girlfriend, and go out in the country, or to the suburbs or something, he's got to change his surroundings. I moved outside of town, and I don't go out anymore, I work out and sit up on the computer arguing with angry Cowboy fans. ( that's a joke by the way). Yeah, my street cred has diminished a bit, but I would rather watch my kids grow up.
It feels odd to say this because I'm only about a year older than Pacman, but he just hasn't gotten to the point that I have reached in life. I spent my whole life trying to prove myself with violence. I didnt decide to make a change until I was sitting in prison, watching my first child grow up through the mail. Later I realized, that the people I was trying so hard to impress, (the ones who are still alive and walking the streets) are still standing on the same corner they've been standing on since 1996. I couldnt change who I was, because I had been that person for 21 years at the time, and it really wasn't safe to change if I ever wanted to go home to visit. I decided to change where I was. Pacman has got to realize that he can't continue to cater to these people.
Let's not kick the man when he's down, let's pray for him. I dont call Pacman names like a lot of other people do. I don't condemn him, or have a "good riddance" attitude towards him. He can only blame himself, but I understand the dude's dilemma and I hope he has his moment of clarity.
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great post.. good luck Glory
A Cowboy fan from Dallas residing in enemy terretory since 1990..
by Jtiner09 on
Jan 8, 2009 7:36 AM CST
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I completely agree, Great post.
To me the Pacman story is more one of sadness than anything else. I feel sorry for a man who hasn;t made the right choices at times and may have costed himself a career in the NFL. I dont disagree with JJ’s decision to cut him, but at the same time I hope he gets another chance and succeeds.
Once again Great post.
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 8, 2009 7:41 AM CST
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This Bolg
Posts like this one is why I read this blog. Every now and then, an excellent post is put up where I actually learn something. My background is about as far from Pac and Glory as you could be. After reading this post, maybe I have just a tiny bit of understanding where before I had none.
Comparing this to all the repetitive nonsense about Romo (which I occasionally get sucked into) is like night and day. Especially during the offseason, I hope we get more meaningful posts like this with new and original ideas/content instead of rehashing topics where we have already heard the same opinion a thousand times before.
Thanks Glory.
by Cowboy Louie on
Jan 8, 2009 7:57 AM CST
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"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 8, 2009 8:57 AM CST
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Awesome post Glory
I am glad the cowboys cut Pacman but more because that team is a dysfunctional mess. I have been rooting for Pac since day one and I still hope he gets it together. He just needs a stable environment right now and, sadly, playing for the Dallas Cowboys is not one.
by Billito on
Jan 8, 2009 9:11 AM CST
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Great post
There are a lot of Pacman Jones’ out there that nobody has heard of. I hope he catches on somewhere, but I wish he were still here. Was he really that bad last year? That fight could have been a set up. No telling whether he did anything wrong. And yeah he was pretty bad in Philly, but we don’t know whether his neck was still screwed up or not. In any case he still hasn’t had a full year worth of football since 2006! If he can keep it straight for a full season, he’ll be a big asset in my opinion. Too bad it won’t be here.
by SB2008 on
Jan 8, 2009 9:23 AM CST
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Nice job
I never post but read this site religiously. This is one of the best I’ve read, Glory. Thanks for sharing…
by Avery210 on
Jan 8, 2009 9:28 AM CST
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why?
It doesn’t change my opinion of him one bit.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 8, 2009 10:42 AM CST
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Well
I guess it must be fun up there on your mountain throwing rocks at all the people who might have made some bad decisions in their life.
by Impatient on
Jan 8, 2009 11:08 AM CST
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Its one thing to make bad decisions
its another another to keep making them over and over again…thats called stupidity. I have no sympathy for people who don’t learn from their mistakes.
There are plenty of people from bad neighborhood and enviroments who learn right from wrong, its not that difficult.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 8, 2009 12:58 PM CST
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I’m with Terry.
This is like saying, “Well, it’s okay he raped and killed that 9-year old girl, because he was an abused child”.
I will try to understand it, but I won’t condone it and most assuredly, I won’t lessen the value of good people who, like Glory, made good decisions against the backdrop of a bad situation.
Pac gets no free ride from me.
But even worse, I blame Jerry for tarnishing the star with him in the first place. I long for the days of Staubach and Lilly.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on
Jan 8, 2009 6:45 PM CST
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bad metaphor alert!
please. as someone who has had people close to me that’s been raped, don’t ever use that in a metaphor again. it’s inappropriate. pacman didn’t rape or murder anyone. it’s not equivalent. i pray you or a love one never finds out a difference.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Jan 8, 2009 8:25 PM CST
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well, not that we know of
who really knows what Pacrat has really done and gotten away with.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 8, 2009 9:07 PM CST
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that applies to you too terry...
it’s childish to insinuate that, especially when you have no proof of that. our society doesn’t work like that. it shouldn’t. and if you ever have a child or a loved one, you’d be upset if someone said that about them with no proof.
that offends me and every one that’s lost someone to violence.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Jan 8, 2009 9:50 PM CST
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thats not what ESPN is reporting
they interviewed witnesses who believe Pacrat ordered a hit on them by his entourage after he threatened to kill them.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 8, 2009 9:53 PM CST
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That amazing
We should have BSPN investigate every unsolved crime. It seems they were able to find out what the Atlanta police were not able to. I hope John Barr can find out who stole my cousins car stereo.
by Impatient on
Jan 8, 2009 10:37 PM CST
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And now Pacman is planning on sueing them
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 9, 2009 6:46 AM CST
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ESPN is a sports news organizaton....
not a police department or federal bureau…..
and if the police are still investigating this, and still haven’t brought charges, what does that tell you?
they don’t have enough evidence….
accusations don’t no merit guilt guys. sorry….
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Jan 9, 2009 3:06 PM CST
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sometimes police investigations
take a long time TH, doesn’t mean they won’t eventually file charges.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 9, 2009 3:54 PM CST
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but you don't know what they will and won't do...
so what i’m saying is the think it’s premature to speculate so we should follow suit…..
plus, it’s been two years…i guarantee if they had more they would’ve filed charges by now…..
not to mention, there’s various procedural rules that might suppress this evidence anyway…..
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Jan 9, 2009 4:54 PM CST
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besides this really isn't news...
this has been known for awhile…
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Jan 10, 2009 3:03 PM CST
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They didnt have enough evidence to prove O.J. wasnt guilty
Then look how he turned out
by rioplayer7 on
Jan 9, 2009 9:25 PM CST
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Romo keeps making bad decisions over and over....
but his are just around forcing passes….
(and someone needs to talk to him about some of his hat choices for post-game interviews.)
by BoyfromOz on
Jan 18, 2009 11:23 AM CST
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Dude
You are an impressive writer. I always enjoy reading your thoughts.
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger (Bigrigga31) on
Jan 8, 2009 9:56 AM CST
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True but-
Sorry but I see a guy that had all the talent in the world (remembering what the guy was able to do in Tenn.) I see a guy that had millions granted to him so he could play a game I love. I see a guy that had every person in his professional life trying to help him out. I mean, they hired a babysitter! I am sure he had psychologists and counselers in abundance.
Most of us get fired the first time…
But this guy wasn’t fired until… How many felonies? Is it 7 or 8 now?
Meanwhile there are millions that passionately wish they had such an opportunity do get out of their situations (violent, economic you name it.) There are people that really would make the most of it but they aren’t going to get the chance he did.
I wonder what old Pac did to blow off some steam after getting released… I will leave that to your imagination…
by Mojoness on
Jan 8, 2009 10:37 AM CST
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I don't think he has any felonies...
And I agree that there are many people who move beyond their situations (and the author, GloryDayz, seems to be one). But I think it’s worth recognizing the background of many NFL players and the hell raising they engage in. Many come from bad areas of town. And many break laws in private. Is Pac any worse than Irvin was? I’m not sure. Hollywood Henderson? I think not. All we have to judge him by is the times he gets caught. I’d be surprised if he’s that much worse than a lot of the high profile athletes.
by SB2008 on
Jan 8, 2009 10:48 AM CST
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Oh poor,poor millionaires
I empathize for the people coming from difficult backgrounds and the daily struggles they must endure to survive I really do. However, if these athletes are too stupid to realize that ,in most cases this is their only opportunity to make serious money, that “keeping it real” is a requirement for them to continue to do then I say they deserve what they get….
I get that this is more of a societal issue than a sports issue but if these millionaires can’t turn themselves around and pull themselves “off of the street” and worrying about “street cred” then how can anyone in that environment expect to do so?
yea…yea its their way of life and all of that but when do people take responsibilities for their own actions and look in the mirror and say “This is my fault.” When they are in prison? When they are dead? Bottom Line : these people are paid millions to play a sport but they do come with certain basic commitments like not doing drugs, not beating their spouses, or staying out of serious legal troubles. To me the average guy, that doesn’t seem like too much to ask for when getting paid ridiculous amounts of money
I do not feel one bit of sympathy for these coddled,self entitled millionaire atheletes. If Pacman is too stupid or too proud to realize that this is probably his only legitiamate source of income then “see ya….you idiot!”
by WALKERMAN on
Jan 8, 2009 11:29 AM CST
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I agree that it's all a matter of personal responsibility
But I think it’s probably even harder to keep it all straight when you’re handed millions right out of college than if you went to college and got a “regular guy” job. My point was more that I doubt Pacman is that much worse than the average NFL/NBA/etc player.
by SB2008 on
Jan 8, 2009 12:14 PM CST
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It is like anything
If you haven’t lived the life, then you really don’t understand. It is not about the money, if it was Pac wouldn’t have the problems he is having..
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on
Jan 8, 2009 1:28 PM CST
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Let me reitterate
I make no excuses for Pacman. His problems are his fault. I just dont want to bury him like a lot of people do. He’s 25, and he’s still got some time to get right.
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on
Jan 8, 2009 11:15 PM CST
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I hear you
I am glad the Cowboys cut him, because I don’t think his performance warranted the trouble. but i hope he rights his ship
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on
Jan 9, 2009 10:03 AM CST
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Nobody should wish him ill
But it’s hard to see him as anything but a bad apple, to this point.
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on
Jan 10, 2009 12:59 PM CST
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Hollywood/Irvin
Never ordered anyone shot…. Multiple times…
They had drug issues
by Mojoness on
Jan 8, 2009 1:37 PM CST
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Although Irvin
almost killed Everett McIver in the locker room.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 8, 2009 2:04 PM CST
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Did you see McIver play?
He deserved to get clipped.
:-)
"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on
Jan 11, 2009 12:40 AM CST
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It's true
You have to leave the environment or the people who are enabling you to make bad decisions. I think that goes for whether you’re from the ghetto or White Haven.
by DavidH22 on
Jan 8, 2009 10:46 AM CST
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Great post couldn't agree with you more.
Don't believe everything you think.
Your causes are cute!!!
by stoproyce on
Jan 8, 2009 10:50 AM CST
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Well said....
I remember when I was in the 6th grade and the first male teacher that I had asked all of the boys..“What is your definition of a man?”
Almost all the answers had something to do with how tall, or if you could grow a beard or if you were a good fighter, etc. Mr. Jones, some irony there, listened and didn’t disagree, but his definition was, “A real man is the fellow who gets up every day and goes to work, no matter how sick he feels, if it’s cold or rainy, if he doesn’t like his boss, he gets up and he goes every day, because he has a family, and he puts them first, above everything and everybody. That’s a man.” That stuck with me and I agree with his definition.
You stood up and became a real man, and didn’t accept the streets definition of a man. I respect that.
Your intellect shows through in your writing. Do you think that had something to do with your decision? What I mean by that is, you had to make a concious decision to risk rejection by your peers and because of your past, possible rejection from your new neighbors. Others from similar backgrounds as yours don’t make that decision. In your opinion, why? Do they lack your intellect?, courage? with all of Pacs advantages…he couldn’t make the break that you did.
Keep writing. You have good insights and can articulate your point very well.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on
Jan 8, 2009 1:16 PM CST
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I suspect Pacman will eventually go the way our man Quincy went....
He will float around the league a bit (maybe) but will most likely be in an arena league if they still have that or maybe even the Canadian Football League for a year or two until he is out on the street. The same street he was so worried about retaining his “street cred” and “respect.” Of course all of those guys he kept around when he made millions that helped him “keep it real” (Chapelle reference)will be no where to be found. LOL When keeping it real goes wrong……
Maybe some of us Cowboy fans (not me) will emphathize with his plight and say what a shame all of his wasted talent.
I ask everyone on this site…How many times has it worked out favorably for a pro athelete who has tried to keep it real and stay close to his homies?
Maybe a select few if any…. I am no genius but I wouldn’t bust my ass to get out of the Ghetto only to let all the people back in my life that I had worked so hard to get away from…I just dont get it and I suppose I never will due to my background.
I am all for giving people another shot and the benfit of the doubt but whats is that people say about the derinition of insanity?
by WALKERMAN on
Jan 8, 2009 1:29 PM CST
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Great Post
And great comments too. I’m glad I ran into this one… some of these much-discussed topics I end up not reading… Glory, you are a real man.
by BackInTown on
Jan 8, 2009 3:36 PM CST
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Thanks fellas
This is not the response I expected when I got home today.
Glad you all have some open minds. I figured this post would start a fire. But the opposite is true.
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on
Jan 8, 2009 4:32 PM CST
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Appreciate you opening yourself up like that. That took some guts.
Plus you have a damn good writing style. Anyway, thanks for the insight. You gotta understand how some peoples’ behavior perplexes some of us and you did a good job of explaining it through your own eyes. Great job!
by Benthere on
Jan 8, 2009 4:57 PM CST
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"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 9, 2009 6:50 AM CST
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pacman
hopefully, the Main Stream Media will learned that without the black football player there would be no nfl. if you notice the face of the nfl is peyton manning with 80% of the nfl being black. only 6 black head coaches and very few in management and a white commish who has to have former nfl players (gene washington, mike haynes) to advise him on this generation of black players, which is a generation gap at best. i think it’s great that u have gotten ur life together and is now a family man and be there for your wife and childeren. u r right pacman need to graduate to the next level, it is painful but we are the only people in this nation that is force to do that in order to become productive in main stream society, that is still run by the powers that be, the only thing that has changed is the faces, not the system, great article keep up the good work.
by dallas 1966 on
Jan 8, 2009 8:15 PM CST
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i agree with this post and think it's excellent...
Ok. I’m about to ramble guys so please forgive me.
the problem with the sports world, and the world in general, IMHO, are people are to quick to judge and too slow to empathize. it is not impressive to remain blissfully ignorant about why problems occur. why people do things. why people react certain ways. it’s not coddling anybody. it’s not eschewing personal responsibility. it’s just living in a world that isn’t black and white.
pacman made his bed and his lying in it. enough said. he blew his chance, he squandered his ability. he’s paying for it. but it doesn’t make you weak to say, “i don’t agree but i understand” or “he got what he deserved but it’s sad that it came to that.” that takes no time or no ounce of dignity at all. it just means you have this thing called “sympathy,” which every rationale human being should have.
my problem with this whole thing is people get off on seeing guys like pacman get punished. like they get some sick pleasure off it. same with T.O. (who isn’t anywhere near a criminal). these are the same people who after sean taylor was killed were looking for a way to BLAME HIM for getting shot in his own house. no time to feel sorry for him or his family. too busy saying I told you so.
anybody that has a wayward loved one can tell you there is a mountain of heartbreak behind pacman. i’m sure he’s got dozens of relatives, friends, family members, coaches, players who are behind him and praying for him and pulling for him. he let all of these people down. i feel bad for those people. it’s easy for us to cut him loose, but i darn sure wouldn’t if he were my brother or my friend.
my sympathy comes from experience: i have friends and family members who’ve made bad decisions. some are recovering from them. some aren’t. my sympathy also comes from my awareness that if I had not have been raised in a particular way, I could’ve been a similar cautionary tale. I’m not so enamored with my own success that I’m not cognizant of the fact that it’s not entirely based on my own merit. I was helped. I was taught. I was looked after. I was lucky.
the thing that bothers me about sports and the world in general is entitlement. nobody owes you anything. pacman found this out. but nobody owes us anything either. we’d like to think the players owe us a good faith effort and so does the team we live and die for but they don’t. not really. and if pacman isn’t entitled to a sports career filled with legal troubles, fans aren’t entitled to sit in judgment or act like robots with no ability to have sympathy for another human being. you can do that if you choose. i just feel there’s no honor in that.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Jan 8, 2009 9:45 PM CST
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Vick
I had no sympathy for him, but there was so much glee about his downfall that really turned me off. Report and comment, but don’t cackle.
I think Vick is a tool; his crimes disgust me and he deserves his punishment, but him hitting the skids doesn’t enhance my life and I take no joy in the failing of another man. Society does not benefit when people’s failures overcome their successes.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 8, 2009 10:49 PM CST
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yeah, the jubilation over the Vick situation made me a little uneasy.
A lot of people were really happy to see him go down.
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on
Jan 8, 2009 11:12 PM CST
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I speak mostly
of the media. Too smug.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 8, 2009 11:21 PM CST
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O completely agree with that point
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 9, 2009 6:52 AM CST
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Dog fighting down there is somewhat culture
I think if you grow up around something it is easy to see the environment take its toll on shaping somebodies behavior. I think the culture Vick grew up in has a lot to be blamed as well.
by rioplayer7 on
Jan 16, 2009 12:56 PM CST
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TONY ROMO HITS THE LINKS
with Joe Simpson
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/01/0108_tony_romo_flynet.jpg
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on
Jan 9, 2009 7:26 AM CST
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Why come on our blog with this?
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 9, 2009 7:48 AM CST
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and your point is??
I’m sure every player that isn’t in the playoffs and the ones that got eliminated this weekend are golfing too.
Thats what most players do after the season before off season workouts begin.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on
Jan 9, 2009 10:06 AM CST
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Joe Simpson gives me the creeps
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on
Jan 9, 2009 10:21 AM CST
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treats his daugher like an asset
Selling your daughter off is just wierd.. He set-up Romo in Cabo.
"Protect the Romo, Save the Cowboys!!"
by Wmillion on
Jan 9, 2009 11:19 AM CST
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treats his daughter like an asset whore
fixed it for you
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on
Jan 9, 2009 12:22 PM CST
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He scares me more than jess does
I really hope Romo is not spending much time with him.
by BoyfromOz on
Jan 18, 2009 11:29 AM CST
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anger issues
I’ve read a few of this guy’s posts. He’s usually complaining about something he doesn’t like or intruding on another teams blog (he’s joined about 12) to try to share some of his vitriole. His comments are often rude and demeaning to others. Honestly, if my team were as good as the Giants and still in the playoffs I would be delighted. It appears he has some internal issues that he is struggling with to feel the need to belong to so many other blogs simply to be negative. He seems very immature.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on
Jan 9, 2009 3:42 PM CST
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in reference to Simms-McConkey above, not Glory
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
by Jim Vance on
Jan 9, 2009 3:46 PM CST
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yeah this is dumb
George Teague did it all.
by Aaron Novinger (Bigrigga31) on
Jan 12, 2009 4:41 PM CST
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I thought it was a January tradition
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on
Jan 9, 2009 8:41 AM CST
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You're a sad man
If my team were playing a playoff game this weekend, I couldn’t dream of dirtying up an opposing team’s blog with nonsense. You must not enjoy watching the giants play or you are just a douche.
I’m guessing a little of both.
by Billito on
Jan 9, 2009 9:14 AM CST
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i hear you
like they say, if you ever have to make a choice between an easy decision and a hard one, it would probably behoove you to go with the hard one. Dude has got to get a hold on his life, his real life. Either he takes a break from football and gets his life together on his own, or circumstances will make him take a break under their rules. Either wway, a choice will be made
by pdw1731 on
Jan 9, 2009 9:37 AM CST
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good post but...
The life that pacman jones grew up in isn’t exactly unique in the NFL. There are hundreds of guys that came from similar situations, yet manage to handle themselves in a respectable manner.
by Barbie Carpenter on
Jan 9, 2009 1:09 PM CST
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but everyone matures at a different speed.
He’s still got time.
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on
Jan 9, 2009 7:04 PM CST
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I Can't Argue With Your Post
But I can use those who have transcended a difficult upbringing and become model citizens. White, black, whatever, people given opportunity who don’t take it do not have my respect. Just because you’re from somewhere doesn’t mean you can’t change.
Pac’s grandmother called him, “a brat”. Brats don’t order people shot, don’t “make it rain”, don’t beat up their own bodyguards. Pac scored a 1300 on his SAT’s, he’s not an idiot. He just doesn’t have it in him to transcend his upbringing, where respect is given to the violent and uncivil. Respect is something that should be earned, and outside of his upbringing, Pacman has no one’s respect.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on
Jan 9, 2009 1:48 PM CST
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Not even close to 1300 on his SATs
I read on another site 1150.
by D3R3K on
Jan 10, 2009 7:44 PM CST
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What is a good SAT score?
So I can judge Pacmans
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 10, 2009 7:56 PM CST
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relatively anything above a 1000...
particularly for an athlete…..
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on
Jan 10, 2009 9:24 PM CST
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ok thanks
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on
Jan 10, 2009 9:33 PM CST
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A perfect score is a 1600
So he basicaly got 72% correct. C -
by D3R3K on
Jan 10, 2009 11:43 PM CST
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I personally think that Goodell needs to get even stricter
These guys get payed millions of dollars…. that’s right millions. If they are getting this much money they should have to adhere to stricter rules. Some people never see millions of dollars in their lifetimes I do not care where you are from, if you are playing in the NFL it should be a privilege. I am all for second chances in life but it shouldn’t be there in the NFL. Do not condone players with reputations like Pacman or else people will continue to believe they will still get a second chance when they mess up. I want one and done in the NFL. There are plenty of high quality players with heart out there that are getting undermined by the thugs in the NFL today. Let the game return to its former glory of hard nosed players playing for the game and not the money.
by rioplayer7 on
Jan 9, 2009 9:32 PM CST
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One and done?
you’ve never made a mistake?
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on
Jan 10, 2009 12:10 AM CST
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I said I am all for second chances in life just not in the NFL
They get payed way too much to be able to mess up. If a person with that kind of salary in the business world messes up they get fired. You should be accountable for your actions to a higher standard if you are getting paid that much to play football. I would much rather see a bunch of Rudy’s out there on Sunday then these guys “making it rain”
by rioplayer7 on
Jan 10, 2009 11:57 AM CST
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Glory, your story is beautifully written but it doesn't apply to Pacman
I believe that often times we are a product of our environment,with that said Pacman had exponentially more opportunities than “the guys hanging on the same corner since1996”. At a young age people realized what a gifted athelete Pac was and coddled him and gave him a free college education, then millions of dollars to play in the NFL and even after trying to throw it all away by being arrested eight times he served a one year suspension and again given a new shot at life and the opportunity to make millions again but couldn’t resist the temptation of alcohol and violence after only five weeks of the regular season. By the way, the man that was paralized in a Pac involved shooting in ‘07, I wonder how many extra chances at a new life he’ll get from that wheelchair? To compare your life to his would say what a lucky man you have been and some how I still believe pacman saw the hardships of life growing up but only from afar.
by Martin79 on
Jan 10, 2009 11:21 AM CST
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Pacman may have been coddled by West Virginia
and people wanting him to help them. But I bet he was resented in his home town.
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on
Jan 10, 2009 2:46 PM CST
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Coddling isn't always a good thing
It just prolongs the maturation process.
by I_miss_Switzer on
Jan 10, 2009 2:52 PM CST
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Glory, you are a real asset to this site.
I have enjoyed your work for some time. God bless.
by WayneLaR on
Jan 10, 2009 9:05 PM CST
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I’m glad to see the OP get his life on track. You deserve all the credit in the world. I still think Jones is going to end up dead before he’s 35. He doesn’t see the problem with living his life the way he does. It’s cool to him. I’m glad he’s gone, but I do hope he finds something in life he can excel at and make a decent wage. But it won’t be in football.
The NFL is full of individuals who were dealt a lousy hand at birth, but only a few end up getting arrested. Only a tiny percentage do it more than once. But only one has the police involved in his business 11 times before he’s 26. This isn’t about upbringing. It’s about maturity. He already has the means to avoid the ‘hood. But he won’t leave the ’hood ethos.
by Tech92 on
Jan 10, 2009 10:11 PM CST
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Sorry..No Free Passes
Great writeup and it does provide a great explanation of why Pacman feels compelled to do certain things…BUT…he should be held accountable. He should not get any free passes and should accept the responsiblity of the conduct required to have the priviledge to play in the NFL. More importantly, I think a high caliber organization like the Cowboys should be even more critical of the players they bring in to wear the star.
I miss Landry and Parcels and their requirement of bringing in guys of high character. After this next season I hope we are able to bring in a coach like Cowher that demands the best from players and leads the team. We lack discipline and a leader and Pacman exemplifies the problems of this team.
by tb0n3 on
Jan 11, 2009 1:15 PM CST
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I said he has only himself to blame.
I’m trying to make everyone understand why he does what he does. That’s all. It’s his fault. And he’s in the situation he’s in because of his own decisions.
Cris Carter....you're dead to me.
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on
Jan 11, 2009 1:44 PM CST
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Well said, GloryDayz
Thanks.
I hope Pac can make it back and I would like him on the team. He seems to be improving all the time. There’s still a ways to go but I hope he makes it and can still play, hopefully for us.
I’m not excusing any of his actions, just rooting for him.
by PaulFVillarreal on
Jan 16, 2009 6:56 PM CST
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Thanks Glory
I think its important to realise that its a little tougher to keep your life straight when you come out of the ghetto vs the leafy suburbs.
That being said, Pacman’s talent has given him the opportunity to do just that. I just hope he realises before he runs out of chances, he doesn’t have many left….
by BoyfromOz on
Jan 18, 2009 11:38 AM CST
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