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FISH on FOOTBALL: A Cowboys Bye Week Top-10 Takes List

Miles Austin's 250 yards and 2 TDs made for a Romo-friendly offense.

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Miles Austin's 250 yards and 2 TDs made for a Romo-friendly offense.

What to do when you're down 2, when to not jump offsides, and where does an arm-waving Cowboy think he is, anyway?

I fill in the blanks here in today's FISH on FOOTBALL Cowboys Top 10 List:

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1. I was watching the Patriots in Denver but I was still thinking Cowboys: If I'm a New England fan, I'm separating myself from the blind praise given Bill Belichick to wonder why he's never been able to get himself a running back. He's got a wobbly Maroney, he's got an old Fred Taylor, he's got a one-dimensional Kevin Faulk, he's got a total of four living, breathing running backs. ... but he doesn't have one who is even close to Dallas third-stringer Tashard Choice.

2. That Matt Cassel must be one crafty chap. Dallas' defense is called for five offsides in the same game? Four times in seven plays? That's got to be a record.

3. You are a bad team. You are going nowhere. You have just scored a TD against a high-profile team with 20 seconds to play. Kick the PAT and you go to OT - but you do so against a superior team. Go for the 2-point conversion and you do so with momentum on your side, the crowd on your side, and the opponent reeling just a bit. You are going to snap the ball from just a couple of yards away from the end zone; in OT, you will probably never get that close again. If you go for the 2-point conversion and fail, so what? In the grand scheme, who will ever care? But if you go for the 2 and get it? The Todd Haley Era has itself a signature. A building block. An injection of organization-wide and city-wide momentum and confidence.

And that's why, in that situation, you go for it. Always.

4. Why is Bobby Carpenter waving his arms to fire up the crowd ... at a road game?

5. Tomo Romo after the KC game: "If we continue to do this, I like our chances the rest of the way.''

Well, that depends.

If by "continue to do this" Tony means "win''? Well, yes. If Dallas continues to "do this,'' Dallas will go 14-2.

But if by "continue to do this'' Tony means "play like we did in KC"? If Dallas continues to "do this,'' Dallas will go 3-13.

6. This team makes a lot of little mistakes. The aforementioned offsides penalties. Dropped passes. The holder not getting the laces turned around.

But there is a trick to erasing (or at least covering up) mistakes: Be playmakers.

Miles Austin, of course, did just that. History will not remember his drops. (What drops?) Romo deserves credit for the same.

So now ... more defensive players need to do the same. But check out the numbers: In three of their games this year, the Cowboys have zero interceptions and zero takeaways. This team doesn't get fumble recoveries, it's waiting on DeMarcus Ware to get some sacks, it seems rather reliant on hoping the opposing offense blows itself up before it can drive 80 yards on 11 plays in eight minutes.

Maybe this is one of those "comes-in-bunches'' deals.

7. The trade that brought Roy Williams to Dallas netted the Lions a 1, 3 and 6. Those picks turned out to be Oklahoma State tight end Brandon Pettigrew, Penn State receiver Derrick Williams and TCU running back Aaron Brown. Let's keep an eye on the progress of three Lions.

8. The columnists call for Wade Phillips to be fired. After a win! Won't there be plenty of losses that would make such a move more appropriate? And, all joking aside, is there really a practical reason to think that if Wade is fired in-season, while the team has a winning record and remains in playoff contention, the Cowboys will suddenly improve?

If there is a practical reason to think that, by all means, fire the coach.

But when you really think it through - Who would be his successor? Who would run the defense? Why would players react positively? - there is no practical reason to fire the coach.

Until, say, February.

9. Someone mentioned to Jerry Jones that Miles Austin was a star of the game.

"Yeah, I know," said Jones, "but I'm most pleased about ... No. 9. I'm very proud of No. 9, who came back today after a very hard week."

Is that what "Romo-friendly'' really means?

10. My thoughts and prayers are with Mike Zimmer and family. When Zim was in Dallas, he and I co-hosted a weekly radio hour that, thanks to him, was one of the football-smartest media things I've ever known about. He's a fine man, what he did last week for the Bengals was wonderful, and the loss of Vikki will be felt by everyone whose life she touched.

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1 – I’ve never liked Bill BeliCHEAT
2 – Cassel is crafty
3 – The two-point conversion would have been a real gutsy call.
4 – Why is Carpenter even on the roster?
5 – By “continue to do this” I think Romo means, “play with heart and not give up”
6 – Some play makers are starting to come into view: Felix, Austin, Ratliff, Brooking, etc. But we need more of them.
7 – Roy isn’t worth a 1, 3, and 6
8 – Agree – that Wade stays at least until the end of this season
9 – JJ has a man crush on Romo
10 – Amen

by BishopWest on Oct 15, 2009 2:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

9.

It can’t be any worse than Madden on Favre.

by Rickyy. on Oct 15, 2009 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

9

Every Cowboys fan should be thankful for that

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 15, 2009 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't he be objective about the entire roster?

I don’t see how having our GM “crush” on a certain player is a good thing, ever.

by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 15, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the comment was more "tongue and cheek"...Jerry has great confience in Romo.

He should, Romo has done much more good in his time here than bad. Fans have a tendency to want to make sweeping personnel changed when things don’t go as planned. You can do that with the bottom of the roster, but not very rarely at the top. I like the fact that JJ is more methodical in his approach. I don’t want him to be Dan Snyder.

by CaliFanInTx on Oct 15, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

#3 - do you really think it would have been that 'gutsy'??

i dont know mang – truthfully, i kind of expected them to go for 2 and was surprised that they didnt….

and as i recall (cant remember if it was aikman or buck) but one of them said ‘i think i would go for 2 here’

lets face it – KC is going nowhere this season….a 2pt conversion would have gotten Haley a lot of fan support and really could have given them some mojo….if it didnt work – sure there would have been some backlash but after a 3-13 season nobody would really remember

they should have put vrabel in again and gone for 2….would it surprise anyone if he went uncovered again??

by McLovin9 on Oct 15, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, not gutsy at all

In fact, it made perfect sense to go for 2. And guess what, I totally expected them to score.

Then we’re sitting at 2-3, and this is a very different type of week.

I bet Haley is still kicking himself for being a wuss and letting the Cowboys off the hook.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Oct 15, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It Was Aikman

Buck was to excited about KC’s touchdown or spewing damning comments about the Cowboys.

by staubachfan on Oct 15, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Point #7

For me the jury is still out on Roy. I like what he adds to the offense. I think we are still learning how to maximize his abilities.

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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by Wmillion on Oct 15, 2009 10:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

But, we have to begin by starting Austin. Then we can maximize Roy’s true ability to be a possession receiver that moves the chains.

by Road Warrior on Oct 15, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

couldn't agree more..

Roy’s in single coverage should be mis-match 90% of the time.. Team’s are going to have to start doubling Miles if he continues to eat up single coverage.

Romo
Witten
Tellus
Da Cat
Austin

That is a top 5 offense..

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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by Wmillion on Oct 15, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Roy is best used as a deep passing threat

Roy ought to be the guy going 50 yards deep, Miles 15 to 20 – Miles seems to be able to make up 30 extra yards on his own

by AustonianAggie on Oct 16, 2009 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been here a year now. If we can't maximize his abilities by now, we aren't going to.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Oct 16, 2009 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great read, as usual.

In regard to Mike Zimmer, you could see in the video of him in the locker room how emotional he was. Good to see him have the resilience to bounce back and help the team get a ‘W’. I hope the dude gets better, man. That’s gotta be so hard to deal with. :/ My prayers are with him.

by Rickyy. on Oct 15, 2009 2:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the reasoning behind firing Wade

is that the theory that the wheels will come off of this team soon. Given that Wade’s teams always play worse in december, that seems to be a reasonable assumption. The team has clearly not been prepared to play at all this season. Wade’s get tough transformation has not occurred. The question then, is what do you have to lose by replacing him with Jason Garrett, and have Dave Campo take over as Defensive coordinator. The answer at this point seems to be very little. Maybe Garrett will run a tighter ship and all of those little mistakes go away. I think we can agree that this team has talent, and isn’t playing up to their talent level. But Garrett maybe a disaster, it’s intirely plausible.
The key factor to me is, with wade we know where this team is going, with Garrett, we just don’t know. As for me, i’d risk the new guy, cause we KNOW the old guy isn’t getting it done.

by just4fun on Oct 15, 2009 3:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

we don’t where this team is going yet, it’s all speculation right now, but I can tell you Campo can’t run a 3-4 defense, and that for no other reason is why Wade will remain HC at least until Feb.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 15, 2009 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop ignoring what has been going on

You have seen Wade the last three years and what he is incapable of. It’s speculation going forward but there has been a precendent set for a while.

3 out of 5 games the opposing offense has scored on their last possession. We have lost 2 of those. He is the defensive coordinator that has allowed a defense to give up 44 points(44%) of 98 total in the 4th quarter and he hasn’t been able to push the right buttons to correct.

by cow_fanatic on Oct 15, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's in the last year of his contract

what’s the point in firing him now? It may be the difference between 9-7 and 5-11, but they’re not going to post a winning record if he’s canned.

It’s like the White Sox trading players away a few years ago when they were just three or four games out of first place. Some fans might like it but the PLAYERS will see it as J.J. giving up on the season.

And if that happens a lot of them will quit on the season too. Football players are an impressionable bunch.

There is absolutely no reason to fire Wade during the season.

by Rafael Vela on Oct 15, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough-agree to disagree

Where is the floor in terms of execution and focus? I think it was last sunday. This situation is different IMO in that you replace ‘no’ voice with ‘a’ voice. There is something for the players to respond to positively with a change. The players are also aware Jason was hired before Wade.

Just don’t see the players looking at Wade being fired as an excuse to give up on the season. If anything it would revitalize them. We’ll never know, just a talking point now

by cow_fanatic on Oct 15, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Point to a time where an early season HC firing "revitalized" a team

it has happened, but it’s rare. Far more often than not the team craters. So who’s gonna run the defense? It’s gonna be Wade’s scheme. Dave Campo, who’s never run a 3-4.

Canning HCs midseason doesn’t fix things, in Dallas or anywhere else.

by Rafael Vela on Oct 15, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pre-emptive strike

I’m not as concerned about short term as I am long term. If the team continues to play the way they are now, they aren’t going to the playoffs this year so the coaching change is a wash IMO.

I honestly can’t name very successful mid-season coaching changes. I also cannot think of very many teams that are split down the middle to the point the HC has no say in what is going on with the offense. I’m not saying tha is Wade’s fault, but I think because of this reason the firing would not be as traumatic. He is only HC in title, not in reality. Jerry might take a step back if he named JG HC to see what he’s got.

And I honestly don’t have an answer who would run the defense either. I would hope if he had been fired this week that they would have had a plan for that.

by cow_fanatic on Oct 15, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if the team continues to play the way they are

This seems to be the consensus among many fans but I’m not buying it.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 16, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about next year Raf?

If for some un holy reason, Wade turns it around and gets these guy to perform then ok, I’ll eat me some crow. Until then I think the longer JJ waits to pull the trigger on this dying horse the more the chance of having home field in the Super Bowl slips away.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Oct 15, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We all want Wade gone...

but not now. Jerry is not going to fire him anyway,so it really doesn’t matter. He isn’t a true HC he’s a DC and a talking head for Jerry. The real HC.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!!!

I think most fans that know anything about football want him gone. He is a fairly good DC, but he aint no HC.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to the DC part is a little overated too.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Oct 15, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No excuse offered...

as you have conducted a reputable firm for the conducting of such cross sectional poll….right? But back to the thread….a group with an opinion that is expressed, is just that. Numbers associated only with an opinion of value, not related to item specifics, prove no valid point beyond a somewhat arbitrary group association. That’s all.

There is no right way to do the wrong thing. GO COWBOYS!!

by CCBoy on Oct 16, 2009 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, then set up a poll to see what the fans really think.

JJ isn’t going to care anyway, but in the end all fans can have their opinions heard instead of assumed.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Oct 16, 2009 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All of the fans?

Many are lurkers and would never reply to a poll. And hundreds of thousands of Cowboys fans worldwide have never even seen BTB’s website. There is really no way of knowing how all the fans (or even most of them) feel about the coach.

I think that it is wrong to assume that every fan or even the majority of them want Wade fired or replaced. It is just that – an assumption. However, it is obvious that quite of few bloggers on this site want Wade gone already.

by BishopWest on Oct 16, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not one of them, at least not right now

I think it would be stupid to fire Wade mid season, we have to go with him until the season is over.

This team is still capable of playing well with Wade as HC despite what all the naysayers are proclaiming.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 16, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't Wade replace coaches twice during his head coaching carreer?

And didn’t he have a respectable record? Just sayin’.

by Road Warrior on Oct 15, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

Management trading players is an indication the season is over. Changing the manager is an indication to the players they are expected to play better after removing what the front office determines to be a weakness

by cow_fanatic on Oct 15, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So?

How often do the players respond the way you claim?

by Rafael Vela on Oct 15, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think the Devils fired their coach right before the playoffs in 2000...

and promoted Larry Robinson and they went on to win the Cup

by McLovin9 on Oct 15, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cant compare hockey to football

The year Robinson took over the team, those Dev
ils had already won a cup in the recent past. This Cowboys team hasn’t done anything. And the coach don’t matter. Its Jerrys world. We just living in it.

by alanTdot. on Oct 15, 2009 11:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

With that thinking.....

If it’s going to be Garrett anyway we might as well start the transistion early….I think many feel we won’t make the playoffs and will have a 7-9, 8-8 record as it is….

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that doesn't mean it will happen

it’s too early to know how good any team is right now, way too early.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 16, 2009 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One Reason

To allow a new coach to get a first hand understanding in game situations of who and what he has on this team. Now, I don’t want to see it happen because this team has a chance to be good and I think the next few games will tell us a lot more about this team and this year.

by staubachfan on Oct 15, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now, I think this team craters either way, that was might point

but the more team has a better chance, albeit slim, to turn around under Garrett. We know this team will crater in december with it’s current head coach. this has happened in most if not all of his 6 seasons as a head coach. The difference in opinion is you still think their going 9-7, while many of us see this team as 6-10. To be honest, i’m not chomping at the bit for this to happen, because it’s probably 6-10 either way. Mainly because the offensive players aren’t prepared either and that is Garretts job. Maybe he doesn’t get it either.

by just4fun on Oct 15, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that thinking.

Because if we see how the team responds to Garrett now, and it fails, we’ll know he’s not our man for next year.

by Road Warrior on Oct 15, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not too late......

to trade Bobby Carpenter!

No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.

by Stingah on Oct 15, 2009 3:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What do you think you can get for Carpenter?

No one will give you a draft choice,maybe a bag of rocks and a used rubber.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relax people he isn't going anywhere.....

If you really want to talk about players that are not being productive for where they were drafted or being paid maybe you should redirect your attention to Newman. Maybe we can trade him for a future draft pick or player….yeah, maybe not…30 yr old CB on the decline, shows up once or twice a year……. we may get a 7th rounder at best right?

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Newman were traded...

…opposing teams would have a field day passing on the Cowboys. Don’t forget that he practically shut down Steve Smith.

by BishopWest on Oct 15, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One reciever out of how many.

Manningham a second year player owned him. Newman is good, but to try and give him Mr. Indespensable status is wrong.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Oct 15, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

I never implied that he was indispensable. I did imply that opposing teams would have a field day throwing on DAL if he were not in the lineup.

by BishopWest on Oct 15, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. I'm glad a lot of the guys on this board aren't running the team. Jeez...we're 3-2 and people

are actually talking about trading players like the season is over and we need to rebuild.

by CaliFanInTx on Oct 15, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen

I’m just as disappointed with our beating ourselves as the next guy, but I feel like we dominated the Giants and less so with Denver but still good enough to win. I’m not crazy about Wade, Romo, or Garrett right now, but they all are our best chance to win. Brooking, Felix, Austin, and Ratliff just need to give the rest of the team a heart transplant.

by Silverblue on Oct 15, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell no....do you see Newman making any plays out there?

And when they show a WR beating a CB…who you think is the guy in the picture most of the times?..yup Newman trailing his guy…Newman for a 2nd round pick now or Newman for Merriman and a player then go out in the draft next year and draft a 2nd or 3rd round CB….go with Jenkins and Scandrick on the outside with Ball in the slot. Newmans value will only decline further..

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is just crazy

Please tell me your smarter than that. Please man c’mon . There is not a corner in the NFL that has not been beat on a few plays. I can count on two hands how many times Newman has been beat in the last three years.

There is not to many cb’s out there that can say that. And just because he doesnt get picks doesn’t mean he is not makinig plays. Your not looking beyond the stats to see that. If your ticked at the way things have gone with Newman in there then you would really be ticked about Jenkins Scandrick and Ball. Because we would be lit up for over 35 a game.

Some people just don’t know how good they have it.

by Capn B on Oct 15, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so, you think Newman is so bad he should be gone

and you also think you’re gonna get a 2nd round pick or Merriman and a player for him?

"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee

by BigDinSC on Oct 15, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No I dont think we could get a 2nd round pick for Newman...

We here in fantasy land think Newman is the best thing since sliced bread, but football people on the outside know that Newman is not a elite CB in this league….good yes, elite no way….he is what he is at 30…..a good CB, but he was expected to be alot better than he is considering where he was drafted and what he is being paid…..all CB’s get beat, even the great ones, but for a CB that is getting paid like an elite CB get’s roasted too many times for my taste and rarely makes plays unless the ball hits him in the face. The guy is 30 and clearly on the decline…my point was trade him while he still has value and at the same time unload his high cap number…it probably won’t happen this year, but maybe they consider it in the offseason. It may not happen at all, but the writing is on the wall he will be moved to 3rd CB position in the near future, maybe as soon as next year…

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 16, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

writing on the wall?

What writing are you seeing. I guess it’s in a different language because I don’t see it. Sure they have guys that are going to take his spot in two to three years.

You hope to have players that will take over when it’s time for the starter to step aside. But you can honestly say that Scandrick is going to take his spot next year, and that Ball will be able to beat him out as well.

If we had people that were better than him, which would mean they would be all-pro than yea, go ahead and get something good in return. But see thats just it. We do not have anybody any where close to what he is.
How many Elite DB’S are really out there? I think Newman is a top 10, top 5 corner without question. If you do not think so than please name me atleast 10corners that are better than him or how about I make it easy for ya, name 5 that are better. Betcha a doughnut ya cant.

by Capn B on Oct 16, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have news for you, the change is not happening in 2 or 3 years...

Maybe as soon as next season..Newman is better served in the slot at this point in his career. It might prolonged his career because he is somewhat injury prone..

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 17, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Newman is Sanders...

but he’s not bad. Better than 75% of the CBs out there now.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What im saying is Newman has some value now, but will only decrease...

Newman is on his way to be demoted to 3rd CB ….I think most would agree the writing is on the wall..our future starting CBs are Scandrick and Jenkins….

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sold on Scandrick being anything

but the nickel back. If he replaced Newman right now…..this team takes a step backwards.

by BishopWest on Oct 15, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had one bad game, but the kid is solid....

Take out that one game and he isn’t playing any worse than Newman…I really don’t think we lose anything if Newman is gone

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We lose depth

we need three competent corners

by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 15, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be a classic NE move

Trade a player that still has value, getting old in the tooth with a big contract….makes too much sense so I wouldnt expect, but for the right player or draft picks Jerry should.

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NE would only do it if they had the replacement in house and ready to go

Scandrick isn’t ready……….so don’t make that trade now.

by BishopWest on Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

were not doing anything this year anyway...

Probably have a new HC..might as well trade Newman and get a 2nd round pick to build upon next year….Get Scandrick more playing time..

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we could get a 2nd...

maybe go for it, but I think we would only get a 5th or 6th unless we could find another Jerry Jones to trade with.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

try the Raiders....

maybe we could get their first in 2011

by McLovin9 on Oct 15, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, thats the ticket

Al Davis he is almost as bad at trades as Jerry.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah - forget newman

maybe we could trade RW to Al and get our 1st and 3rd back

i would be happy with that

by McLovin9 on Oct 15, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Naw...

there’s only one GM dumb enough to make that trade…

Garrett needs to get a clue!

by BulletBob on Oct 15, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BINGO

and that would be who

Good old Jerry, owner GM and HC

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOT ME

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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by Wmillion on Oct 15, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huff was an excellent player coming out of college

The problem is he is playing for the Raiders…If he went to good team he would probably be one of the top safeties in the league right now…he still can be..Remember, he was a top rated CB coming out…

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 16, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Lord

No. I would not do that, ever. Huff was AWFUL in his first few years in the league and only started showing signs of being a decent starter late last season. Plus, safeties (particularly in the box, run-stopping safeties) are generally not as valuable as good cover CBs, which I believe Terence still is.

And before you go and cite Ed Reed’s value, let’s keep in mind that not every safety is Ed Reed, and take a look at the average salary of the league’s top CBs and top safeties.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Oct 15, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we know how us Cowboys....

Like the white stuff.

No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.

by Stingah on Oct 15, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knowledgeable...

about value of both items? Rocks and rubbers, huh….

There is no right way to do the wrong thing. GO COWBOYS!!

by CCBoy on Oct 16, 2009 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe Bobby was waving his arms at the crowd...

…because the stadium was at least 50% Cowboys fans. Didn’t you notice that the crowd was cheering OUR big plays and not the Chiefs’ during the game?

Embarrassing for KC, which used to be a formidable environment for opposing teams.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Oct 15, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was funny

One, your right 50% of crowd was cowboy fans, the other was that it was Bobby

by Capn B on Oct 15, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly...

and he did that among the Cowboy fans starting in camp this year….among who he knew were fans of Dallas. Some NFL teams DO have a strong following in away games, maybe Dallas fans are just starting to be sophisticated enough to know how and when to respond with loud noise in a stadium. This applies to getting quieter in the new stadium as well…when Dallas has the ball.

There is no right way to do the wrong thing. GO COWBOYS!!

by CCBoy on Oct 16, 2009 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have a lot to say...

…but I wish the best for Mike’s fam.

PS. Love ya Paul! RedneK- out.

Superbowl, or BUST.

by .FRoST.USAF on Oct 15, 2009 7:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As usual JJ will wait too late to do the right thing.

He is going to wait till the end of the season to get rid of the dead weight on the team (Coaches/Carpenter)(WTH is JJ making decisions on Carpenter?). Either way he will wait until not only is this season in the crapper, but he will also wait until there is no chance in Hades for a new coach to get the team in shape for having Home Field for the Super Bowl. As usuall JJ will be a day late and 1billion dollars short.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Oct 15, 2009 7:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Blockquoted paragraph
8. The columnists call for Wade Phillips to be fired. After a win! Won’t there be plenty of losses that would make such a move more appropriate? And, all joking aside, is there really a practical reason to think that if Wade is fired in-season, while the team has a winning record and remains in playoff contention, the Cowboys will suddenly improve?

Is it really that far-fetched to believe that we would improve if the Hillbilly Clown was fired? We can’t play much worse

It would make more sense to make the move now with a bye week, would give JG more time to make the transition. WE ARE NOT GOING TO IMPROVE WITH WADE STILL HERE. Accountability is not in his vocabulary and I’m sure JG is smart enough to establish that as the prioroty going forward.

I don’t want to wait to make the move until the end of the year because chances are we will be going with a new HC not here and JG would be gone in that scenario any way. Give him the last 11 games of this season to see if we can improve and if we don’t, Jerry would be much more comfortable axing Garrett at that time. If we wait to give JG the reins til the end of the year we may have to suffer through a situation in which JG cannot hack it as a HC. That’s 4 more years of misery when we had the opportunity to seek out Cowher, Shanahan or Holmgren this offseason

by cow_fanatic on Oct 15, 2009 8:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Michael Smith on BSPN was talking about Redskins firing Zorn and

one of the reasons of doing it midseason is to get ahead with negotiations with available coaches now. Heaving said that he said that ppl in our organization indicated JJ will not go “Parcels” for a new coach ie somebody like Gruden, Cower or Shanahan for that matter. So if all is true I thing we are stuck at best with JG as a HC next year or at worst some other no name coach.

by dcfanz on Oct 15, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remeber the rule about interviewing a minority.

That also throws a wrench in spokes. The NFL will spank a team that tries to get around the rule.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you just do a tweet

to Denny Green and your covered.

by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 15, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but BSPN has their own motive for reporting who the deadskins front office would want to hire, but can they

get anyone they want. Remember that Zorn went from QB coach to coordinator to HC all with the skins last year. The reason, they could not get anyone else to take the job, they are the raiders of the NFC. So BSPN can report that the skins want a big name and that Zorn will be fired soon so they can get a head start; well that ignores the fact that we’ve seen this movie before and what has changed to change the outcome?

Personally I do no think that any team is worried about the skins head start anymore than you are worried about being in an azz kicking competition when the only opponent is a one-legged man. Besides any new coach will have to wait a while before he would hire his staff, no matter how much money snderrato wanted to throw at any coaching candidate a big name coach would be foolish to not see what teams would be available. The main question should be what makes the skins think they are so attractive other than a big payday?

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Oct 15, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A five year $25,000,000 deal

would go a long way to make the skins look very attractive.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I hope that was sarcasm, but do you get my point?

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Oct 15, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But would you want a coach that did not care about where he went so long as he gets what he

wants to be paid? Because if the skins do take this action they will be the only game in town at this point in the year; and any coach who takes the big payday shows the measure of his character.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Oct 15, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they are looking for that last big killer deal.

Like the over 30 ball player.He thinks damn the winning show me the money. Not in all cases but you know it happens alot.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My question still stands: do you want a coach that is a big money 1st mind set

a coach that says I want to be paid I do not care if it is with the raiders I will go if the price is right. A coach signing with the skins in the middle of the year before any of the other teams are in the mix suggests a coach that we would not want coaching our team. Damn the winning is not the mind set I would want in our next head coach.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Oct 15, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the first place he can't sign a HC until he interviews a minority.

Because of the Rooney rule and HC aint going to tell little Danny he’s only in it for the $$$$.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are stating that since the skins will throw a lot of money and fire their coach sooner

that it presents an advantage, I am contending that any coach that would take that job before the offseason is probably in it for the money.

A five year $25,000,000 deal would go a long way to make the skins look very attractive.

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs


I do not think the skins have an advantage.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Oct 15, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look we are debating a nebulous point, my final word on this subject is the skins will not

be able to get a big name coach because they have become the raiders of the NFC; a coach looking to cash in would not mind the skins or the raiders but that is not a coach I would not want for this team.`

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Oct 15, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in agreement with you,

I wouldn’t want that coach thats just in it for the money,but a big time coach might be looking for that big payday. That all

by DIRE WOLF on Oct 15, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any coach that is willing to enter the realm of snyderrato at this stage would be doing so more for the money

than to succeed. BSPN cannot predict which way JJ will go because they do not even know all the coaches who will be available or teams that will be looking for a new HC. More “microwave analysis” from BSPN, it does not suprise me that they would throw out dallas for good measure. I will say that if the skins lose to the chefs that Zorn could be fired but there will be an interim coach appointed if it does happen. The reason I doubt it would happen is because who will fill the two positions that Zorn vacated? New HC do not come in on an interim basis; so it would have to be an internal replacement.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Oct 15, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill billy crown?

How about a ring taper’s delight? Now that would be a Pearl buckled bangled billie beaute…

There is no right way to do the wrong thing. GO COWBOYS!!

by CCBoy on Oct 16, 2009 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We sure CAN play worse without Wade

How does 0 fer the rest of the season strike you? Would it make you feel good to destroy this season, and make sure the players know you have given up on the season, while you have a winning record. Sure, that makes tons of sense. All because you have lost faith in Wade being able to turn it around, and make assumptions about the viability of the rest of the season, and that the team is “going nowhere”.

I’m betting I could name 53 players and a bunch of coaches and other team management who would disagree with you. Besides, the supreme authority on the subject has spoken. Wade going nowhere for the rest of this season.

If I sound cross, I apologize, I’m just tired of people giving up on this team.

by mdlusk on Oct 16, 2009 5:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just because

I’m asking for a coaching change doesn’t mean I’ve given up on the team. Just the opposite. I am hoping to salvage the season by firing Wade because I believe we reached our bottom level Sunday in terms of focus and execution.

And there’s no way Wade has that much to do with the wins we get, we are winning right now in spite of him. He has more to do with the losses

by cow_fanatic on Oct 16, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a coaching change wouldn't salvage the season, just the oppsite would happen

There are a lot of players on the team that really like Wade and you would essentially lose the players as Raf pointed out if Wade is fired now.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 16, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bobby Carpenter...

was waving his arms because there were a ton of Cowboy fans there…if you watched the game you would know that…that is the only logical reason i could think of…but hey, i could be wrong.

by TheCowboyFan on Oct 15, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, that is correct

it was noted by other fans and media that there was a strong cowboy presense in the stands.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Oct 15, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bobby's waving

Guys, you’re right … that’s almost certainly the only logical explanation. And while there was a Cowboys faction in the crowd, I don’t exactly think it was like Az used to be; KC’s audience is traditionally loud, always sold-out, etc …
Having said all that: It’s still odd that a road player is trying to get (his) crowd involved … but heck, maybe it’s genius because it’s unorthodox! :)

by Mike Fisher on Oct 15, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you were there you'd understand

First, there were lots of Cowboys players on defense waving their arms to get the crowd going. The stadium was about 50/50 split and it was crazy that both teams could get the crowd involved when the momentum was flowing. At one point in the game (4th quarter I think) while the Chiefs had the ball we had the “Defense, Defense, Defense” chat going around the entire stadium.

Fish missed this one as it appears he made an attempt to passify the Carpenter-haters with an illegitimate point.

by Kansas Cowboy on Oct 15, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fish doesn't miss much, but

my father-in-law said in his section the Cowboy fans were drowning out the others and it wasn’t even close.

Fish, you are still the man in my book. Love your posts.

Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK

by HudBaby on Oct 15, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and I mean no disrespect to Fish

I have liked his articles…just think this one argument was a stretch and lacking in understanding of the environment that was Arrowhead on Sunday.

by Kansas Cowboy on Oct 15, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waving...

Is the thing Bobby does best… he waves to the crowd and he waves at ball carriers as they run right by him.

Garrett needs to get a clue!

by BulletBob on Oct 15, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talking wave...

you should have seen the first live wave in the stadium at the very first football game played at Dallas’ new stadium in the Exhibition…it was GREAT!

As to the sissification of the character of Carpenter…maybe some of those running onto the field to shout insult, should consider that Carpenter has been on quite a few third down stops and even making open field tackles that have made Dallas one of the NFL’s top five, third down stoppers on defense.

There is no right way to do the wrong thing. GO COWBOYS!!

by CCBoy on Oct 16, 2009 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crowd

I was at the game and started the Defense! chants. I’ve had no voice most of the week, but it was fun to be louder then the Chiefs fans. Both Carpenter and Jenkins waved us on and until the terrible call on Alan Ball, we were carrying the stadium.

by jsj on Oct 16, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post

Easy to read for ADD nimrods like myself.

I knew this would happen after the W in KC: Romo et al boasting how try persevered and played their hearts out, not that they’re a pathetically underachieving ballclub who is too stupid as a collective to stay out of their own way. If they’d played a mentally perfect game, they would have won 35-0.

Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.

by Lord Humungus on Oct 15, 2009 9:48 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

#4..umm......maybe because half the stadium was Cowboy fans....ya think?.....

I had a friend fly out there for the game and said it was amazing how many Cowboy fans were there…

by Boyzfan94 on Oct 15, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I almost went

Tickets were quite cheap — relatively speaking — about 100 bucks a pop

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Oct 15, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a chance at $75

But the best seat in the house is still in front of my Big Screen.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Oct 15, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah there were tons of Cowboys fans there

you could see it in the stands, and you could hear the crowd responding when the Cowboys were on Defense. Lots to criticize about Carp, but waving his hands to fire up the Cowboys fans despite being on the road is not one of them imo lol.

by scottmaui on Oct 15, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fish,

Fred Taylor is a beast. He’s very under-rated. Any of Dallas’ RB will be lucky to even come close to the career that Fred Taylor has had.

~Texas Massacre '09~

by TheHeat on Oct 15, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Fred Taylor 2009 is a little different than Taylor 1999-2006. Yes he’s rushed for 10,000+ career yards, but so has Eric Dickerson— would you want 2009 Eric Dickerson as your starting RB this year?

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Oct 15, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fred Taylor still has a lot of Speed

When Fish dissed on NE’s running backs, my thoughts went to the year they had Corey Dillon he had 1,600 yards that season

by AustonianAggie on Oct 15, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

New England is at the fork in the road like we are...these Patriots are not the same team that won those

Superbowls. Those were won on defense. You can’t have the amount of key players they had retire or traded without feeling the consequences. Belichick is a great coach, but you still need special players for that greatness to come out. On paper, the Patriots have a good defensive team, but it really hasn’t shown in the results…sound familiar?

by CaliFanInTx on Oct 15, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Antwoine Smith wasn't bad either

Not a top tier back and low YPC, but fit that offense well.

Colts are struggling with RBs since Faulk and James too— some teams just don’t prioritize them. It’s not an indictment. Although when you pick guys high that don’t pan out (Addai, Maroney), that’s certainly not good. Choice would be a beast in NE, I’m sure.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Oct 15, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Addai has some great moments

I think he’s a tier above Maroney at this point and a threat – at the very least, because of his great speed

by AustonianAggie on Oct 16, 2009 3:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

New England..

First off..I can’t stand “The Hoodie” (the one clever thing Jim Rome has come up with). His whole attitude sickens me…pompous much?

  But..Fish mentions the RB problem because no matter how u slice it..Fred Taylor is a shell of his former self. Could he still be a productive back with a great offensive line? Absolutely. But he doesn’t have the same ability to make big plays by himself like he used to.

NE is a one word team…OLD..forever they were able to cycle into the next batch of pro bowlers but that seems to have faded. They have significantly less depth than we are used to and their starters aren’t playing at the same level.

Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game as a head coach..he has lost 4 home playoff games.
His longest tenure as head coach was 3 years.
Only once did his record as a HC improve from one year to the next (by 1 game)

Wade Phillips for DC

by SDTrueblue on Oct 15, 2009 3:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

There is a very interesting phenomenon at work here...

I find it very interesting that so many Cowboys fans want to fire Wade now, after two and a half seasons (more importantly in midseason). This approach mirrors the approach taken by the Redskins and the Raiders (always quick to change coaches) in many ways (at least recently), and would further enforce the notion that Jerry is a quick-fix type owner. Ironically, this quick-fix behavior is what is often cited by many Cowboys fans as what is wrong with Jerry Jones.

Meanwhile, looking at the generally successful franchises in the league as of late, (the Colts, Steelers, Giants, Eagles and Patriots), those teams all have owners who are generally renowned for being patient and letting coaches have lots of time to operate. This approach is a strong contrast to the approach that many Cowboys fans are calling for currently.

It certainly is interesting on many levels that the general consensus of Cowboys fans would seem to match the philosophy of Al Davis and oppose the approach taken by the Rooney family.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 15, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so...I think the general consensus could very well be one of patience.

Just because a small percentage of fans are very vocal about change, doesn’t necessarily mean that the majority feels the same way. I for one am in the middle. I like the makeup of this team. I think we have a good chance to make the playoffs and then do something…and I think the majority of Cowboy’s fans feel the same way. Am I perfectly happy with this team? No. But I want to find out if this team can do what I think it can, and the ony way I can find it out is to be patient.

by CaliFanInTx on Oct 15, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose I have made assumptions

regarding the makeup of consensus opinion. Still though, I feel like a large amount of Cowboys fans feel this way and I find the whole opinion interesting.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 15, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It bugs me too, then I realized that fans are broken up into 3 categories...

The very vocal 10 percent that is never happy about anything and are the ones complaining and wanting to make changed even when things are going well. I remember even during the Superbowl years, fans would complain about players and cite they needed to be traded after a bad game. Then, there is the casual fan, who kinda follows the Cowboys, but only do so when they are winning. This group probably comprises of 20-30% of fans. Finally, there are the Die-Hard fans who love the Cowboys no matter what…winning or losing…they get very upset when we lose…vowing to never follow the Boys again, but always find a way to come back to the fold by the next game.

by CaliFanInTx on Oct 15, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then there must be a 4th category

because I’m a Die-Hard fan who will always…

love the Cowboys no matter what…winning or losing…they get very upset when we lose…

BUT…..I would never stoop to….
vowing to never follow the Boys again

To stop “following the ’Boys” is UNTHINKABLE.

by BishopWest on Oct 15, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nor do I

If you are categorizing die-hard fans as ones not interested in the team improving then I don’t want to be a die hard. I want the focus to be on what we are not doing well which is on both sides of the ball and in all facets. That’s what a good coach is suppose to do. Focus on the weaknesses and fix them

It appears some fans have taken on the same attitude Wade has which is to focus on the positive and ignore the negative, rose-colored style

by cow_fanatic on Oct 16, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nobody is ignoring the problems

we just think they’re capable of being fixed and I believe they will.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 16, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope they will be fixed

and you believe they will. My hope is based on my living and breathing Cowboys but have no foundation in the belief that Wade is capable. Your belief that they will be fixed is based on what? Confidence in Wade?

He hasn’t fixed the end-of-game defensive problems, he hasn’t fixed the penalty issues(in fact they are getting worse) and the defense has not been creating turnovers at all this year. These are all trends.

by cow_fanatic on Oct 16, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my belief is based on the fact

that this team is capable of playing good football because they have proven on numerous occasions over the past three years since Romo took over that they can play well and win games.

All the naysayers like to point out we’re a .500 over the past 24 games, but what about the first 13 games before that when we went 12-1? I believe Wade was still the coach for those games.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 16, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was

24 games ago and bad habits and attitude hadn’t had a chance to change from Parcells. That was Parcell’s 12-1. Hell, that could have been my 12-1.

by cow_fanatic on Oct 16, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

These guys had penalties

and mental lapses with Parcells at the helm, too.

by illcowboy on Oct 17, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry has never fired a coach during a season

I realize the media casts him as an impulsive, Dan Snyder-type owner, but his history does not match that.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Oct 15, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Think Cowboy fans have been very patient.

We are lucky to have an owner that is not afraid to spend a buck to get a player. Many fans from other teams can’t say that. With that and the ability to build through the draft, why is it taking so long to get back to quality teams we have had. Is it the talent ? Is it the coaching? Do you really see Wade as an inspirational and motivating leader ? I guess the way you answer the questions will guide you as to how much patience should be shown.

by oldboysfan on Oct 15, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There is only one constant in the drought and that is the General Manager

Does anybody remember his name?

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Oct 15, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So do you think JJ is ready to fire his trade guns....

And make a move before the deadline?

No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.

by Stingah on Oct 15, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just to get onto topic of fans...do you high sounding Carpenter bashers know,

what the very first thing played on the jumbotron in the first Exhibition game was? It was a piece on how to be a GOOD fan! I wonder why that was selected? Could it be that some of the Cowboy fans might need some direction here? Name calling should be left more to the media, that don’t have a problem with burial procedures only to resurrect the body to conduct another analysis….for ratings. But, some of us seem to love the process and following it’s minutest details of dissections. Woner when WE get wise enough to root and enjoy the play of the team’s players for what they actually do…instead of comparing them to mythical reincarnations of former player’s remains.

This season, I’ve yet to see this team quit, either in hustle or in spirit…why should I?

There is no right way to do the wrong thing. GO COWBOYS!!

by CCBoy on Oct 16, 2009 2:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Points for being a professional. Not quitting, hustling on every play…

Chris Rock has an opinion on this I would like to use as an analogy. Certain people want credit for not going to jail. What do you want, a cookie? You’re not suppose to go to jail.

Same applies for players who hustle and play every down. They’re suppose to

by cow_fanatic on Oct 16, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That principal of the wow, when applied to a fan, although, should mean that when that player is doing what he should be doing, then the fan also should be happy. Right?

There is no right way to do the wrong thing. GO COWBOYS!!

by CCBoy on Oct 17, 2009 2:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Change????WTF

On a winning row, and some dipchits want to change?Wade made one important decision, that got the BOYZ on track, and now with the season coming to a simmer(not yet a boil) we are talking changing coaches?…(~shakes head~why dont we just say we admit the season is over, and wait until next year?) Not in a million years would I change coaches..we are a very, very long way from being eliminated from the playoffs so making sweeping changes would be a very very big mistake IMO…We all agree that our bust of a #1 pick should be traded a.k.a Carpenter(did some one bid a bag of rocks and a used rubber?)…That would be a gimmee go trade…Newman is a no-no…He makes defenses play conservative passing…Yeah, he gets toasted(Manningham, and Smith(the other Smith)..But he also plays tight, so Id say definitely not…Look, we have a .600 record, we are Only 11/2 games back of the Giants and tied in 2nd with the Eaglse who have yet to play us…McNabbs at his mid-season fading stretch, so who knows what we can pick up on them there…The rest of the middle of the road NFC teams arent that much ahead of us..The Falcons are coming to Dallas in a week, and we can beat them at home after our bye…well have Jones and Sensabaugh(hopefully) back by then and healthy…RW is a so-what reciever as we all know, and really hasnt been missed much…I think that Wade will definitely find a starting spot for Miles Austin, and if we can continue to improve our penalties, and TO ratios, we can pick up a lot of these games we are calling toss ups…If anybody watched the Giants game and the same with the Broncos which I still believe to be a game decided by the refs(blatant offensive pass interference by Marshall on Newman) we would be a solid 5-0, because like I said except for the turn-overs we dominated the Giants much of the first 3 QTRS in Dallas…We shall see, if that team or the team that played the Chiefs shows up at the next 11 games…As for being a die-hard Cowboys fan, yeah, I AM THAT…thru the early 70’s(cant win the BIG ONE) thru the tough but efficient 80’s, to the DYNASTY years of the 90’s, to the last 13 years without a PlayOff win…yeah I am still and always will be a Cowboys fan…In my opinion I like JJs philosphy about football when he said “anybody can be a football player but ONLY A FEW get to be COWBOYS”…and its even so today…we might not be the prettiest “bride in the church” but we are certainly not the ugliest either…Roger Staubach had 23 4th Qtr come from behind victories, and to me that means one thing and one thing only…"Dallas Cowboys are NEVER the loser in any game until the “fat lady” has sung"…So go ahead and spout out your hatred or your discontent about the way things are moving with the Boys right now, but in my humble and Honest opinion. truly believe, that EVERY team that beats us beats us playing their very, very, best( for example: How many INTs did the Gnats have in their win, and yet it took them until the last 2 minutes of the 4th Qtr to beat us…Same with the Broncos, we had 2 very costly INTs and yet they were still behind until the last 2:47 sec. of the 4th QTR…that to me says alot about a football team…a game that isnt decided until the final 2 minutes of a game, is in my opinion a very good game…Honestly, if the Cowboys had been blown out of Cowboys Stadium by the Giants(which, on paper should have been the case, right?)..how many of us would have stayed and watched it to the very end?(well, I am sure that the 10% who are die-hard fans would have)…Not very many, decidedly…But since the Cowboys were very able to keep it close we all know the dissappointing decision very well…C’mon dawgs, lets all represent the Cowboys and not throw them under the bus this early in the season…We have had some bad luck, and some sorry TO go against us…along with heartbreaking, not to mention game breaking penalties(i.e. the USLK call against Ball on Wade in the Chiefs game taking it from a 3 and 26, to a 1st and 10)….Weve got 5 more Division games against us and if we can very easily come out of them 4-1 or 3-2 then I believe that we can take 4 possibly 5 of the non-Conference games against us…JMO, but hey it is mine…FEAR THE STAR

by Hawgz, Bugz, and FilthyFowl Hater on Oct 19, 2009 5:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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