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The VRR: Could the Cowboys Use Better Communication?

Miles Austin is getting the first-team reps in practice, yet Patrick Crayton remains the starter on the official depth chart.

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Miles Austin is getting the first-team reps in practice, yet Patrick Crayton remains the starter on the official depth chart.

The ESPN writers are criticizing the Cowboys for failing to make tough decisions regarding personnel moves. Ed Werder contrasts how coaches such as New England's Bill Belicheck ignored Joey Galloway's guaranteed contract, and instead, chose to bench and eventually cut the veteran receiver. He also credits Denver's Josh McDaniels for handling the Brandon Marshall situation in a disciplinary manner that seems to have had a team-oriented effect on the player.

As the Cowboys face changes at their wide receiver position, Werder questions whether the situation is being mismanaged.

[W]hen Miles Austin replaces an injured Williams and is productive in a statistical way that no other Cowboys receiver in the history of the franchise has ever been, he is rewarded with a starting position -- but not the one earned on the basis of his performance. It appears the Cowboys will have Austin replace not Williams, but instead, Patrick Crayton, which is unfair to both.

Crayton has been slightly more productive than Williams, and now Austin is forced to play out of pos which is unfition as a Z receiver, which some NFL coaches say will be difficult for him.

We wonder why the Cowboys so often seem to project a sense of entitlement?

More VRR after the jump.

Star-divide

Tim MacMahon says that Wade Phillips continues to be hesitant to name a starter at WR, which only adds to the coach's "soft" perception.

[T]his coaching staff goes to great lengths to avoid hurting players' feelings by demoting them. Coaches declined to confirm that Miles Austin has replaced Crayton in the starting lineup, although it's been obvious that would happen since Wade Phillips said Austin would play "fifty-something" snaps per game after his 250-yard, two-TD breakout performance against Kansas City. Those numbers, by the way, exceed Crayton's production through five games this season.

[snip]

This is the same kid-gloves treatment that Phillips' staff gave Greg Ellis last season. Anthony Spencer had clearly established himself as the superior defender against the run, earning the vast majority of reps on first and second downs. But Ellis still started every game, a tribute that certainly didn't keep him from grumbling. Crayton speaks his mind as much as Ellis, but he's keeping his mouth shut at the moment.

Well, now Crayton has spoken. Calvin Watkins notes that the coaches still have yet to communicate with Crayton regarding his role in the offense.

Austin continued to get reps with the starters during Wednesday's practice, but none of the coaches have explained the situation to Crayton.

"I would have loved it," Crayton said of an explanation from head coach Wade Phillips or offensive coordinator Jason Garrett. "It would have been real stand-up. That's not what happened. Oh, well."

Crayton, who dealt with a similar demotion after the Cowboys traded for Roy Williams in the middle of last season, isn't pouting about becoming a No. 3 receiver again. He considers his role "to help in whatever way possible." He just feels that, as a six-year veteran, he deserves an explanation.

"That way you're not in the dark about why the change is made," Crayton said.

Although the Cowboys let yesterday's trade deadline pass without making a move, some team dangled some pretty fat carrots in front of Jerry Jones' nose.

"We had a significant offer for a key player that we turned down, and turned down in getting in more extended dialogue for," Jones said. "So we did have that kind of activity ... but I shouldn't name the player or the team. It was a very firm, significant offer for one of our young players that we had a chance for a lot of consideration if we had wanted to take it, and we didn't."

When asked specifically whether Tashard Choice was the target, Jones said the player was not a running back.

He indicated that the Cowboys were offered at least one premium draft pick for the player. He also hinted that the Cowboys could have pushed for a player who could contribute this season.

Hat tip to Big50 for the FanShot.

After practicing today, SS Gerald Sensabaugh sounds ready to play Sunday.

He is wearing a blue cast to protect the thumb and it will be wrapped even tighter so he can play Sunday against Atlanta.

"I can play like this," Sensabaugh said. "It felt good today. I did all the drills. They padded it up a little bit so I wouldn't hurt anybody, which is what they have to do for the game ... I was able to catch some balls. I dropped some too."

The red zone has not been an area of success for the Cowboys this season.

Dallas owns the league's second-ranked offense (420.4 yards), but the Cowboys are only 11th in scoring (24.4 points). That's because they are only 20th in the red zone, scoring touchdowns on 46.7 percent of their drives inside the 20-yard line (seven of 15 chances).

Coach Wade Phillips said an ineffective running game and a passing game that has struggled to find matchups to exploit are the main reasons Dallas scored just two TDs in its last nine trips inside the red zone.

[snip]

The bad news is that Sunday's opponent, Atlanta (4-1), excels at red-zone defense. The Falcons are third in points (15.4) and TDs allowed (eight) and are coming off a victory over Chicago in which they prevented the Bears from scoring on three of their four trips into the red zone.

Atlanta is third in red-zone defense, allowing opponents to score just six TDs in 16 trips inside the 20 (37.5 percent).

JWitt or TonyG: Who is the best tight end in the game? Gonzalez says it's Witten.

"Jason, in my opinion, he's the best tight end in the NFL," Gonzalez said during a conference call Wednesday. "Because his ability to catch the ball and block, a lot of people forget about that. The tight end position's not just about catching footballs. It's about going out there and opening holes as well, you're part offensive lineman, and I think Jason epitomizes that, and he's done it well for the last couple years.

"I enjoy watching him. Anytime he's on TV I'm definitely watching him . . . He's a guy that I definitely will be looking at on Sunday."

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Werder can kiss my

@ss. If he was laying on the ground on fire I would not stop to piss on him.
With WRs its more of a matter of routes and plays then it is anything else. And clearly Roy Williams is going to be on the field so if Austin gets more plays then Crayton will have to just sit there and take it or produce more. I do agree with Watkins that Crayton deserved to be told directly if he was going from #2 to #3.

by burmafrd1944 on Oct 21, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why so wishy-washy, burma??

I agree though. Since when did Werder or any other media guy know more about who ought to start than the team? What possible motive would they have to put the lesser of two players on the field? I hate this drummed up crap…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 21, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's unfair to Patrick Crayton that Roy Williams starts ahead of him?

So Patrick Crayton is a better player than Roy WIlliams?

Oh, wait, it’s Ed Werder.

by Rafael Vela on Oct 21, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it really that clear that Williams is better

Williams is supposed to be better, but his production doesn’t show it.

by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 21, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's better

It’s not really close.

by Rafael Vela on Oct 21, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think part of that may be

that Williams gets the double teams and Crayton doesn’t.

With Miles in, it should free one of those two guys up for more production.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 21, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had plantar fasciitis

which is like trying to run with a nail in your heel. I’ve had it. Standing up in the morning hurt.

by Rafael Vela on Oct 21, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It took me six or seven months to get over it. What a pain.

Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!

by CowboyMan on Oct 21, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 22, 2009 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

It doesn’t matter if its Crayton and Williams or Williams and Austin, Someone needs to be open and Romo needs to maybe trust Williams a little more. More real threats equal more opprotunities, and Crayton is not really a threat or at least he hasn’t been consistently. I actually like the guy in the slot and on third down, just my opinion.

I despise Watkins and McMahon and I really haven’t listened to anyone from ESPN in years. The negativity is horrendous and I am not just talking anti-Cowbot sentiment either. There seems to be a very real shark/gossip aspect to Sports announcing in todays TV/Radio. Everybody is an expert and knows the right answer.

Ahab the Arab
I say keep an eye on this kid, this Louie the Looper. He's going places!

by damnarab2 on Oct 21, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All great points

Used to lift in the morning to “Mike and Mike”. Now it’s just tunes and the local traffic report.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 21, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or get an Ipod!

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Oct 21, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or a Mix Tape!

All great suggestions. I went with Sirius Radio. Their NFL coverage tends to be very good, but when it’s not, the alternative station rocks.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 22, 2009 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sure miss those

I remember thinking – man these are SO much better than those giant 8-tracks…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 22, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

8-tracks!

man, you go even further back than I do.

78 rpm shellac records by any chance?

by One.Cool.Customer on Oct 22, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

None for me, but

badknees has a room full of em…

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 22, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, the point that hits home is that our coaching staff puts too much effort into not hurting feelings.

The environment that should exists is one where the best players play, and the current staff will factor in tenure, feelings, contract size and draft position when making their decision.

If there isn’t a fair playing field, where would the incentive be for players to progress.

Nate Newton had a great story last year about when he lost his tackle position to I believe Erik Williams. Nate knew Williams was outplaying him so he didn’t argue, but he went into JJ’s office and repeated a JJ position that “the best players play”…he told JJ he was a better guard than Kevin Gogan and the next thing you know…Gogan is on the bench.

by CaliFanInTx on Oct 21, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure there's truth

but in what universe is it news or even in the realm of “journalism” to make a story out of how people talk to each other, whether a guy feels hurt that he’s not starting, etc.? It’s cesspool journalism and I despise it – try to create controversy on a team for your own selfish benefit/profit motive. Pretty low stuff.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 21, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I suppose

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 21, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The article is deliberately inflamatory and ignores basic football facts

Werder bases his contention that Crayton should start on the fact that he has been “slightly more productive” than Roy this season. Nevermind that Roy got hurt and missed the Chiefs game, and is clearly a superior receiver. Comparing both of their miniscule production levels and using that to determine who you think has “earned” the starting job is ridiculous.

Plus Crayton has always played best in the slot. Which is not mentioned here at all. Argh. I hate ESPN. They used to love it when Parcells and Belichick didn’t tell their players anything at all, just communicated with them through the media, and now they gripe about it with this team to stir something up.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Oct 21, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed

prior to the KC game in which RW didn’t play, RW was 11 for 214, Crayton 11 for 199, so on a per-game basis Roy has actually be slightly more productive than Crayton.

And Miles can play any of the WR positions, but he is probably best suited for and most familiar with the flanker position, which is where he’ll be playing. With Roy at split-end and Crayton in the slot, they’ll all be in their natural positions.

Werder is a jerk and a joke.

by scottmaui on Oct 21, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, they White Wash Crayton's mental errors

Muffing punts gets you in the dog house, yo

by AustonianAggie on Oct 22, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ed Werder should star in the movie "Weird and Weirder"

Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden

by BishopWest on Oct 21, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gonzo is a smart man

He knows a great TE when he sees one, lol.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 21, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Takes one to know one!

Tony G has been a class act his entire career, it doesn’t surprise me he’d defer to Witten when being asked a question like that.

by tkosmith on Oct 21, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 21, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously Tony G. is great...

….but he’s been more of a WR than a TE the last few years. He’s like Winslow and Clark— split out over 50% of the time. Witten is a complete TE and a beast of a blocker, and it was very nice of Gonzalez to acknowledge that.

Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.

by Tim Wilson on Oct 21, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dallas tried to draft Gonzo way back

Pretty sure KC traded up to swipe him.

3-2 headed for the bye week.

by APerfectStar on Oct 22, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But I remember reading an article that Aikman gave his "personal" approval on David LeFleur

before the draft and thought he would be just what Dallas needed in the absence of Jay Novacek.

Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden

by BishopWest on Oct 22, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats after we couldn't get Gonzo

He was the top TE on everyone’s board, LaFleur was the “consolation” prize

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 22, 2009 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think before the draft Aikman gave approval on LeFleur

Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden

by BishopWest on Oct 22, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true, but Gonzo was still the #1 TE on every team's board, including ours

We would have drafted him if KC wouldn’t have selected him before us.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 22, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden

by BishopWest on Oct 22, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have

a lot of respect for Gonzo.

by what_the_crap on Oct 21, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 21, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

and Jerry should not have even teased it, if he’s not going to discuss it. Why bring up the players name?

I’ll say, based on his comments, that it’s a young player, who merited a premium (1st or 2nd) round pick, and it’s not a RB.

Okay, who fits that description? Who has talent going forward at a position of need who had a 1st or 2nd round grade coming out?

IMO, one of four players — Ware, Jenkins, Bennett or Scandrick. They’re going to reject Ware out of hand. My guess is Bennett or Scandrick. If they’re asking for more than one player? Jenkins. But we’ll never know.

by Rafael Vela on Oct 21, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

if he’s going to tell us who it’s not, “RBs”, he might as well say who it was for…

i’m sure it will be leaked soon

usa

by Longhorn on Oct 21, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rat?

I think he’s outplaying Ware right now. Austin?

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 21, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

Ware isn’t young then either

usa

by Longhorn on Oct 21, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Jones

As I posted earlier about gossipers in the Sports World, I think this kind of statement is a reflection of the gossip type trash that permeates sports. It is just talk until there are real names and facts shown, not the proverbial un-named player, or exec, or coach, or what the F@@k ever. It makes me sick to read or hear this kind of gossip. Just state what the deal is and let everyone know who was wanted and why. The guy is a mass manipulator!

As for Werder, well that name says it all for me and I disregard anything he says, even when it’s right. I hopefully can get the same info here or somewhere else that I enjoy reading or listening to.

Ahab the Arab
I say keep an eye on this kid, this Louie the Looper. He's going places!

by damnarab2 on Oct 21, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess would be...

Less blockbuster / More “Miles Austin for a 3rd round pick”.

Unless you consider that a blockbuster.

by tkosmith on Oct 21, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will have to speculate through deduction.

No RBs—as stated by JJ.

It’s a young player that he just could not part with, even for a 1st and a player that can contribute.

My best guess would be Ratliff.

I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 21, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a possibility

DTs and CBs will bring you 1st or 2nd round offers.

So, which AFC team has a surplus of offensive linemen and is in the playoff hunt and needs DL or CB help? Ponder that.

by Rafael Vela on Oct 21, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And who's been willing to flip top picks lately?

The Jets come immediately to mind. They just lost Kris Jenkins, and they have young OL, so maybe they did ask for Ratliff, Aaron.

by Rafael Vela on Oct 21, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhh, damn.

I bet it was them!

I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 21, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Wonder if they were offering DeBrickashaw or Mangold with a high pick.

I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 21, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes some sense

and that’s actually a tempting package. Then, you’re in the game of wondering where the Jets will pick, and if you’re going to have a chance to get one of the top NTs in next year’s draft, and there are some good 1st round NT prospects,

but then you have to weigh what losing Rat does to your season now and if adding a young LT balances out losing the heart of your DL?

by Rafael Vela on Oct 21, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have Wayne Hunter listed behind DeBrickashaw at LT.

Dunno anything about him, but would Rex really risk shipping off a 25yo LT right now—unless Flo or Free were also involved.

I don’t see Dallas fitting a guard in their lineup, so Mangold wouldn’t make too much sense.

NTs are a hot commodity right now and they are falling injured pretty regularly this season. Dallas would be screwed up the middle.

I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 21, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mangold can play center as well.

I wouldn’t mind not seeing Gurode shotgun snap. HAHA

by Mandmeisterx on Oct 22, 2009 5:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tempting

but despite my desire to somewhat revamp this ol, ratliff is too important. At this point, he looks like the LAST guy we can give up. I’m really not too sure how many guys in this league I’d undoubtedly give up for him – the whole on our DL would be huge.

by foyesboys on Oct 21, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's too important to this franchise for JJ to consider that.

I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 21, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ratliff

I agree it is probably Ratliff, one of the best players on the team and a PR nightmare for Jones, especially in todays sports media.

Ahab the Arab
I say keep an eye on this kid, this Louie the Looper. He's going places!

by damnarab2 on Oct 21, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A 1st rounder from the Jets...

for Jay Rat since they lost Jenkins for the season?

~Texas Massacre '09~

by TheHeat on Oct 21, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then we are in deep crap with our pass rush

I wouldn’t look forward to the defense the rest of the year, and Ware hasn’t played like normal until last game against KC. Why take a chance of upsetting the defense when it just seems to be turning the corner on the season.

by mdlusk on Oct 21, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Jones

Needs to stop talking to the media. Why would he just throw that out there and then not explain? He should have never said anything about a trade that never happened in the first place. Man that guy has a knack for making himself sound stupid.

by Cosby Sweater on Oct 21, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He subscribes to

“Any publicity is good publicity” school of thought.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 21, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

What other owner/GM talks to the media about a trade that didn’t happen?

by selke99 on Oct 21, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as he may have a point about communication,

Patrick Crayton needs to learn to stop talking to the media without thinking first. He needs to keep this kind of stuff in house so other players don’t have to publicly be bothered with his dirty laundry.

And honestly, based off of his play in KC, he should have expected to be number 3 on Monday. You can’t drop passes and fumble punts while the other guy is putting up 250 yards and expect to keep your spot.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 21, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

But Wade needs to also grow a pair, man up and tell his players of any personnel changes involving them, if this is what happened.

by selke99 on Oct 21, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would think

you get a more focussed player during practice if he knows what is going on. It’s just human nature.

by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 21, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wade said that Crayton was told

so like I said, who really knows and why would it really matter? If Crayton didn’t see this coming or doesn’t understand why Miles would be considered the Number 2 after that amazing performance and Crayton’s sub-par performance, he’s delusional anyway.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 22, 2009 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 22, 2009 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For Jerry to even consider it, it had to be a position where we have some depth

That really means CB or RB, since DLine and LB are areas where our depth is quite limited. And if Jerry is actually telling the truth that it wasn’t a RB, then I think the offer had to be for Scandrick. Realistically, Jenkins was a 1st round pick himself, so what would Jerry really be recouping if he got an offer of a high pick for Jenkins? If a 2nd high pick were included or a real contributing player, then maybe he’s strongly cosidering it, I guess. But Scandrick was a 5th rounder. Swapping him for a 1st rounder? Or even a 2nd rounder and a contributing player? That’s value. I think getting that type of value back is the only way that Jerry is even considering trading a young, contributing player.

by desus32 on Oct 21, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahahaha.

all jokes aside, I think if our young ILB wouldn’t have gotten injured and missed so much time, Carpenter probably would have been gone. Or at least demoted.

by desus32 on Oct 21, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts lay in that direction

Easily the most replaceable from that limited pool.

Everything's looking up, Milhouse!

by accidental innuendo on Oct 21, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marty B

was my guess as well. He’s clearly a very talented player. And he’s clearly not being utilized to the full extent.

by Ridgelake on Oct 21, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares what the grade of the player was coming in?

If anything, if say Jenkins and Scandrick are equal players, you’d rather trade JENKINS b/c you got Scandrick on a 5th round contract.

Those picks are already spent. I’d rather get a 1st rounder for Jenkins than a 2nd for Scandrick, wouldn’t you?

That being said, of course we need both!

by blee on Oct 21, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in regards to Wormy Werder..

He makes a living by digging up muck in a highly publicized team. It’s what reports do..but the guy is joke. He’s been lost without his buddy T.O. there to focus on..I suggest he and Steve Phillips switch spots at the moment.

 But..to the meat of the issue..

Am I the only person that thinks this will actually be a good move for all involved? Crayton has always seemed to be at his best making 8 – 10 yrd receptions acrossed the middle or on out routes..Slot receiver anyone? He has never been a real deep threat so why not go the route of a Wes Welker and become another safety valve for Romo. I actually see him doing really well as our third receiver with the speed of austin drawing safeties back.

     As for the Trade..I would have said Ratliff, Spencer, or possibly Jenkins. More than likely Cincy, Jets, or Ravens as suitors

Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game as a head coach..he has lost 4 home playoff games.
His longest tenure as head coach was 3 years.
Only once did his record as a HC improve from one year to the next (by 1 game)

Wade Phillips for DC

by SDTrueblue on Oct 21, 2009 5:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Yea

As someone else posted earlier it possibly was Orlando but bc of depth issues If it was Spencer of Ratliff that would been our whole season down the drain in a trade. Besides Orlando who else do we got that can play the slot no one, Ball he’s so so but just a better free safety and a ok corner

So if Jerry didn’t get any draft pics to stack for next year it must meant the player was from a thin position.

by lostar2009 on Oct 21, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In 3 WR sets...

…does Crayton move to the slot? If so, then I don’t see how this will help Crayton.

If he doesn’t move to the slot, then well what is our staff thinking??

by blee on Oct 21, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

Crayton will almost always go to the slot in 3 wide sets. Occasionally they might put Roy or Miles in there but that would be probably based on a situational matchup against a specific defender

Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game as a head coach..he has lost 4 home playoff games.
His longest tenure as head coach was 3 years.
Only once did his record as a HC improve from one year to the next (by 1 game)

Wade Phillips for DC

by SDTrueblue on Oct 22, 2009 4:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The reason I can't stand Werder...

is that he is too lazy/biased to be objective.

How does he write that article without mentioning that Crayton committed two major gaffes last week that could have cost us the game? Or point out that Crayton has other high profile errors as well (i.e. dropping one TD against the Giants in the 07 playoffs and slowing down his route on another possible TD)? Not to mention that, but what has Crayton done to keep his job? His stats are similar to Williams even though Williams has played in one less game, but does Crayton block downfield as well as Williams? Not even close. Look at any of our big runs from weeks 1-4, and Williams is out in front blocking like a beast downfield. And of course, no mention that Crayton is far more suited to the role of the WR3/slot receiver.

No, in typical Werder fashion, we get none of that. No, he probably sees a blurb on the DMN blog about Crayton whining, and turns it into an article for the WWL without bothering to do any research or critical analysis.

by DannyWhite on Oct 21, 2009 6:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ditto

Bingo, Jackpot, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Werder is the shits!

BTW I always liked Danny White, will never get his due to the three losses in the Championship games.

Ahab the Arab
I say keep an eye on this kid, this Louie the Looper. He's going places!

by damnarab2 on Oct 21, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget Werder

Not the point. Don’t we hear from players and coaches alike that they keep everything in-house? If that is the case why would you not let Crayton know he’s going to the slot? The writing was on the wall. 10 catches and 250 yards from a WR3 will bring alot of WR2s to question their starting position. Why would you allow the media to inform an NFL player of his playing status?

Why not tell him face-to-face, like men? You know, Wade’s strength?

by cow_fanatic on Oct 21, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Do the coaches owe any player an explanation?

I certainly don’t think so, but that’s just me. The players get paid to do what the coaches tell them to. Crayton is most efficient as a slot receiver. Miles and Roy offers a much more dynamic receiving threat. Crayton surely had to know that when a 3rd receiver breaks a franchise record on the same game he played abysmally that his days as a starter were over. Now he’s going to pout because the coaches didn’t tell him? Really? Like it comes as a surprise?

If it were Parcells, nobody would be complaining, and everybody would side with the coach. Wade comes off as a softie, so people mock him and nitpick every move he makes. It’s ridiculous. Neither Wade or Garrett owed Patrick Crayton and explanation. They made the move that was in the best interest of the team.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Oct 21, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't ask for an explanation for Crayton

As you pass him in the hall if you prefer, tell him face to face he is the slot receiver now., That’s how credible organizations are run. Parcells would have told Crayton in the locker room after the Chiefs game

by cow_fanatic on Oct 21, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

No explanation, but he should have heard it from the coaching staff

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Oct 21, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phillips

For what its worth, Phillips stated in the DMN blog that Crayton was informed. Now then the only one that knows the truth of this is Wade and Patrick. They know, therefore all the rest is just speculation and gossip.

I cannot believe that as the game progressed that Crayton didn’t start thinking dang, this is making my job security a little bit in jeopardy. I personally thought that Austin was going to be the starter all along. Crayton has replaced a starter before, and has had mediocre success. I beleive the man got his chance and it didn’t happen for him. In the long run that is all we can ask for is a chance, it is up to all of us to capitalize on that chance.

Ahab the Arab
I say keep an eye on this kid, this Louie the Looper. He's going places!

by damnarab2 on Oct 21, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

You wouldn’t think he’d have to be TOLD “hey, this kid’s better than you right now, so we’re starting him”. I’d be annoyed as a coach if I had to even tell him. It should go unspoken.

But if he was informed, then I certainly don’t see the big deal. The only concern I have with the whole issue is the potential for Crayton to turn into a less productive but equally annoying second coming of T.O. Your team has a good shot at doing some good things this season, and you’re going to air your grievances to reporters? Doesn’t that create a situation similar to last year? Distrust amongst players, contempt for coaches, etc. That’s one of the big reasons our season derailed last year. We certainly don’t need Crayton acting all butthurt after a more dynamic and impressive receiver replaces him after he really let the team down. It could possibly hurt the team unity or whatever you want to call it.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Oct 21, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree completely

after that last game, Crayton is a fool if he didn’t think Miles had earned the playing time.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Oct 22, 2009 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Werder makes one half decent point.

He is going to be playing a position that (best to my knowledge), he doesn’t have the playbook down that well at.

Is the Z receiver really that much different to play than the X receiver? I really don’t know, but it doesn’t seem like that to me. The “some coaches doubt he can play it” line seems totally bogus.

Of course, werder happens to leave out that Crayton is better suited for the slot, that crayton has not been performing well at all the last 12 weeks for this team and that Roy is going against guys like Corey Webster while craytons not facing cbs as talented, etc. Roy is a far superior run blocker that, when paired with felix, has had a big effect in our long runs to the outside. Romo and Roy have been very close to connecting many more times this year, and its obvious to me Roy can be that red zone threat we need, though it will take time.

It sounds to me like the coaches told the team austin would start but have not talked to patrick about what his role will be….thats a lot of critical articles about wade’s i don’t want to hurt feelings coaching. Its gotten ridiculous. This is such a no brainer decision. What has crayton done to warrant keeping the job?

by foyesboys on Oct 21, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Austin has been here 4 years.

He ought to know the positions by now.

by Ridgelake on Oct 21, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Much "to do" about NOTHING ..

If you ask me.

Living in the NY area, we get the Giants telavized. I recall a number of Giants games a few years ago where the “starting players” were announced that excluded Plax or Ward “started” for Jacobs. “Satrting” a football game in the NFL is OVERRATED.

Truth told, the starting QB and starting O-linemen play the entire game. But RBs, TEs, FBs and WRs all share reps amongst them according to foramtions and match-ups. Its never a bad situation to have Crayton and Austin pushing each other for playing time.

The only spin I can agree with is Phillips handling of the situation .. but hey isn’t this the same guy who is counting light fixtures on the new stadium in the 4th quarter of a tied game??

by spadesking131313 on Oct 21, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Werder is a dunce

A flaming mustachioed nimwit.

3-2 headed for the bye week.

by APerfectStar on Oct 22, 2009 1:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion, Patrick deserves to be told something.

How come none of the media are calling Garrett a wuss? Isn’t he the offensive coordinator?

Anyways, Crayton’s better as a slot receiver anyways. Also, I think the media should remember that Austin just had 1 good game, not saying he won’t have more, but let’s not bust out the anointing oil yet. ;)

by Turbo73 on Oct 22, 2009 1:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would the media be calling Garrett a wuss?

Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden

by BishopWest on Oct 22, 2009 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patrick needed to be told he wasn't starting which he was

He doesn’t need to be given an explanation as to why…it’s painfully obvious why.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 22, 2009 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A comment on another thread

Said Chris Mortsenson Tweeted the potential trade offer was from CIN – a ‘premium draft pick’ for Marty B, but JJ wanted a contributing player in order to consider it.

I get confused/amused about all the angst over reporters and reporting. It’s just noise, and there’s nothing anyone can really do about it. It’s an industry, especially with mainstream News media losing so much money. I do agree, most reporting is highly subjective, opinion presented as fact and tends to be lazy – mostly superficial observations that a lot f times don’t stand up to scrutiny. It’s the old political chestnut, ‘if you repeat a fiction often enough, people accept it as truth.’

Wade has nothing to do with the Offense, it’s autonomous unit from his purview. And in this case, he is 3rd on the decision tree behind Garrett and JJ as to who plays. That would be unusual on any other team…

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by tdships on Oct 22, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs


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