Jerry admits he is the coach
Here he is on the FAN saying he had final say on who does and does not start - and that he exercises that power regularly. He also claims personal responsibility for our superbowls. I love the idea of giving Ogletree a shot. But it should be the football guys' call, not the owner. He just doesn't understand that he may not know as much about football as his coaches. I wonder what got into him today to make him so Boss Hogg-ish.
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He is as bad as Steinbrenner at his worst
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
Looks like Roy Williams isn’t going anywhere.
The bigger issue here though is… Unless you throw an absolutely overwhelming, record-breaking dollar figure at a great coach, who the hell would want to coach there under those circumstances?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 30, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tom Cable?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, the first question on a coach’s application is “If hired, are you willing to surrender your testicles?”
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 30, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally weird interview
1) Jerry claims that he has the power to say who plays and who doesn’t on game day, a power that he frequently exercises over the coaches.
2) Jerry, who normally presents in interviews as affable and jocular, is obviously angry when he is pressed on the question by the interviewers.
3) Jerry claims it’s a formal part of every coach’s contract, that the general manager has the ultimate say on who plays.
by TimSchultz36 on Oct 30, 2009 2:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And then there is this
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ross_tucker/10/28/owners/index.html
I vividly recall a Cowboys game in which one of Jerry Jones’ aides walked over to our head coach Dave Campo and said something. Campo then went up to our offensive line coach, who in turn told our high draft pick that he was back in the game, this after he had been pulled a series or two earlier for poor play. It was like an adult game of whisper down the alley, only the message didn’t get lost in translation. It was time for Jerry’s pick to get back on the field. That always made me wonder what other mandates were coming down from on high.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now this is something Blings can be worried about
Jerry actually IS a problem with this team. Ugh, this interview is absurd.
by ChrisRichey on Oct 30, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I hate to say I told you so, but…
Kidding aside, we ARE just another version of the Raiders and Al Davis. We just spend more money than they do. Plus, we’re living off of a lot of Tuna’s personnel work.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Oct 30, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 08 draft is removed from the Tuna days and was a good draft. Besides
the one thing that makes us different from the raiders or the skins is that Stephen is going to take over one day (sooner than later). The raiders and skins have not such hope, Snyder is too young to wait for him to pass on; and Al has not heir apparent to hand the franchise over to that has a football background. So it may not happen as soon as we would like it, but with Stephen waiting to take over give me the hope that dallas will not become a raider type orgainization. From what we see of Stephen is that we do not see him, no where near as much as JJ.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Oct 30, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm no...
Davis has his son (Mark?) who will likely sell the team a la the Rams (estate planning is a bitch when you have to deal with the associated taxes!) or hire a football guy to run the team.
The Raider situation will change long before anything major happens in Dallas. The Skins? Nothing but hopelessness.
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Oct 30, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How perfect is it that the poster's
username is JimmyJohnson, I love it.
by sduncan24 on Oct 30, 2009 3:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
After the Parcells era, I joked...
That Jerrah was coach, and he just hired his O- and D-coordinators in Garrett and Wade.
I haven’t laughed at that in a while.
Everything's looking up, Milhouse!
by accidental innuendo on Oct 30, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What can you say about Jerry...
Its hard to run a winning organization in the NFL that way but hey I really cannot argue his point..If i put myself in his shoes and had that kind of money invested in this team I think I would want controll as well…just saying
by scandrick32 on Oct 30, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
true
The Cowboys are his life and he wants as much control as possible. Regardless, it doesn’t matter what the fans think, this is the way the Cowboys will be run until he dies, like or not.
Either accept Jerry for who he is, or go root for another team, it’s really that simple.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 30, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it is not that simple
I have said this before, but the Cowboys were my team before Jerry bought them. We as fans can critique the owner when he is damaging the franchise that we all love. I am not going to root for the Cleveland Browns because Jerry Jones is an egotistical asshole.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Thats easy to say when its not your money invested….
by scandrick32 on Oct 30, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes it is that simple
I didn’t say critique, I said accept, big difference. It’s like a resident of Texas bitching about it being so hot in the summer, the bitching isn’t going to make it any cooler, you either accept it’s going to be hot or steamy in Texas during the summer or you move.
Same difference.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 30, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it that simple with Davis and Snyder?
Are you saying that Redskin and Raider fans should not complain?
We know it wasn’t always this way. Jerrah did not decide Jimmy Johnson’s starting lineup. Nor did he decide Parcells’ starting lineup. We know that the weaker the head coach is, the more power Boss Hogg asserts. I think we are right to complain and to hope that Jerrah will realize this is not the way to win.
by JimmyJohnson on Oct 30, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry never said in the interview that he is deciding the starting lineup
He said he has the final say which is a big difference, obviously he’s smart enough to defer 99% of all decisions made by the coaches.
Jerry can’t be compared to Davis or Snyder, his teams are 100 times better.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 30, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is precisely comprarable to Al Davis
Davis has 3 Superbowls too. And he did it with more than 1 coach. Jerrah did it with Jimmy and with the team he put together.
by JimmyJohnson on Oct 30, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis at one time knew what he was doing
He has gone insane now, but at one time he knew how to build a team.
Jerry is a brilliant business man, but he sucks as a GM. No other team in the league would hire him, not one, and Jerry would have fired himself ages ago if the GM had another name
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree with what?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that Jerry is comparable to Davis
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 31, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Davis' team has won playoff games more recently than Jerry's team
The Raiders have been to the Super Bowl more recently than the Cowboys.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Davis has spent his entire life in football, unlike Jerry who made his money in oil
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are a lot of criticisms that one can point at Jerry...
But not knowing football is not one of them. The dude played college ball at Arkansas and was a damn fine offensive lineman who was the co-captain of the 1964 national champions. He played under Frank Broyles and alongside Jimmy Johnson. I think Jerry’s true passion in his life is football and I think to suggest otherwise would be extremely misguided.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 30, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did not spend his life in football the way Al Davis did
And if Jerry knows football, why the hell did he use a first round pick on Shante Carver (among other draft foulups)?
I don’t doubt his passion for the game, nor do I doubt his business acumen. I just think he sucks as a General Manager
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Jerry Jones is a great owner, a poor GM, and possibly the horrible, horrible head coach. The more he reaches down below controlling the purse strings the more incompetent he is.
by JimmyJohnson on Oct 30, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Every single GM has made bust moves. If you are going to criticize him for Carver, you also have to give him credit for some of the great players we have drafted. It was him who allegedly made sure the Cowboys got Demarcus Ware.
I am not saying that Jerry Jones is something otherworldly GM. I simply believe that he does know a good amount about football and seeing as it was his money that built the 1990’s Cowboys, I can understand the fact that he resists the idea of turning over control to another guy.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 30, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am serious
Jerry’s track record without Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells by his side is lousy. The team he runs as his personal fantasy football team has not won a playoff game since Bill Clinton was president. The guy is a brilliant business mind, but he sucks as a GM.
As for Ware, Demarcus would not have been on the Cowboys radar screen if Bill Parcells had not rebuilt the scouting department.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not a really accurate analogy. . .
For that to correlate, Jerry would have to be the Dallas Cowboys. Seanrude is not bitching about the team, he’s bitching about the owner/coach. Kind of like bitching about the governernor of the state of Texas. Sure you can move out of the state, but why not just wait until the governor dies, or better yet chase him out of town. Jerry isn’t the Dallas Cowboys. As he’s said himself, he is merely the custodian of the team, and that the team belongs to the fans. I’ll be damned if I root for another team simply because I disagree with the way my favorite team is being run, and I sure as hell won’t be quiet about my displeasure regarding the way things are being handled.
That being said, I think Jerry is a great owner. He’s passionate about the team and does what he feels is in the best interest of the franchise. I just think he tends to steamroll coaches when they don’t agree with him, which might backfire on him when he is trying to hire a good coach.
Oh, and by the way, I love Texas and wouldn’t want to live anywhere else in the world, and I bitch about the weather all the time.
"It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man."
by Waterloo Joe on Oct 30, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got news for you
as long as Jerry Jones is alive, he most certainly is the Dallas Cowboys.
Your analogy is horrible, citizens can vote a governor out of office, fans can’t make Jerry sell the team or remove himself as GM, will never happen.
BTW, I really feel bad for people who bitch about things they can’t control and this is one of them.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 30, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to make an analogy. . .
I’m trying to show the logic was faulty with yours (though I was trying to do in in a civil manner as opposed to getting nasty like you). Gues its hard to try and correct an analogy that was faulty in the first place. You end up looking horrible by association.
You seem pretty angry but I guess that can be expected from someone who blindly tows the company line for the team no matter how warranted the criticism is against it. If we went based off of your view Wade would be the greatest coach ever, Romo would be a hall-of-famer in waiting and the team would have no real weaknesses.
I suppose a better analogy would be like reading a blog where you don’t agree with one of the main contributors. Sure I could go read the Redskins blog, but I’m not a fan of that team.
Besides it way more fun to get your blood boiling because I don’t blindly accept what you say as gospel. My right as a fan and as a reader of this blog.
In the meantime, you might want to have a drink to help calm your nerves. You seem to be taking this way too seriously and personally. You’re not Jerry Jones’ online persona are you?
"It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man."
by Waterloo Joe on Oct 30, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not angry at all
So you’re way off there, it seems to me that somebody bitching and moaning about how jerry runs the team would be way more angry.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 31, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
You constantly bitch about the team letting Romo down.
What distinction would you make between the two?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Oct 30, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't bitch about that at all
I only mention it when the haters are out in full force with their pitch forks and I only really said it about one game and that was the 2007 playoff loss.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 31, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stephen Jones needs to put his old man in check one of these days or no coach will want to come here
I hate to say it, but Jerry is not to far behind Crazy Al…..As Jerry gets older he may become Al. The only thing that may save us is Stephen. Al doesn’t have a person like Stephen in the background getting in his ear when there is a disagreement. Stephen pressured Jerry to cut TO I have no doubt in my mind..
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 31, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 2 other owners do that
Snyder and Al Davis. How is it working out for them?
Other owners make the team their life but they leave the football decisions to football guys.
by JimmyJohnson on Oct 30, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be interested to see how you qualify that statement
considering that Ross Tucker in his article suggested that it was much more rampant than expected. Simply because he gave an example with Jerry does not mean there weren’t others doing it.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 30, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody think that Bob Kraft is telling Belichick which players to put on the field?
Was Clint Murchison telling Landry who to play? Does anybody actually believe that Jimmy Johnson allowed this to happen?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or Parcells, for that matter
Notwithstanding what Jerrah claimed.
by JimmyJohnson on Oct 30, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
according to Jerry, it happened with every coach he ever hired
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 30, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you believe that? I think Jerry is rewriting history
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes I do
The buck stopped with Jerry with every coach he ever had.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 30, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
REally?
You actually believe that Jerry Jones told Jimmy Johnson which players to play?
Your manlove for Jerry Jones may outstrip your manlove for Tony Romo if you believe that happy horse$h!t
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 30, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or perhaps it is your worship of Jimmy
that precludes you from thinking it is possible the two collaborated because then you would have to give Jerry more credit.
Considering none of us were actually in Valley Ranch when Jimmy ran the Cowboys, I don’t think any of us can say for sure how it was. The one thing I will say is that for Jimmy and Jerry to still be civil, I tend to think that the situation was a little more positive than previously thought.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 30, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said that
Jerry said he had the control when Jimmy was here and yes I believe it because it’s true, he just never exercised it because Jimmy did such a great job and we were winning.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 31, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty interesting you would bring up Bob Kraft
since Parcells left the Patriots since he felt like he didn’t have enough input on the players. Interestingly enough, Parcells never had issues with Jerry (at least not publicly like with Kraft).
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 30, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm....T.O. much?
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Oct 30, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I clarified "publicly"
And that still doesn’t change the fact that the same guy who found Kraft overbearing worked fine with Jerry for 4 years.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 30, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a big fan of jerry and how he conducts his biz...
If u do not like it then buy him out or sht up….Thats my take…
by scandrick32 on Oct 30, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How about the last 13 years?
without Jimmy Johnson
by JimmyJohnson on Oct 30, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is strange to read that coming from, well, Jimmy Johnson.
LOL
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Oct 30, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also can't wait to see ogletree get his shot
If it takes Jerry to get him on the field then so be it
by quincyyyyy on Oct 30, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree on that one
But I’d rather see Ogletree on the field than Roy Williams. Boss Hogg also said Roy will not be demoted under any circumstances.
by JimmyJohnson on Oct 30, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully this offseason Jerry will cut his losses, swallow his pride and cut Roy Williams
It happens, nothing in football is certain. At the time it was the right thing to do. It just didn’t work out. I hope Jerry can realize this and not add insult to injury by sticking with Roy.
by quincyyyyy on Oct 30, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Even if Jerry makes personnel calls, that doesn’t mean he is “the coach”. He’s a $$$ guy, not an Xs and Os guy. He leaves that to the coaches, as he should.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 30, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said
Jusr because Jerry has the power to make the lineup doesn’t mean he ever did it or ever will
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 30, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
That’s not what Jerry said. He said he had made those decisions frequently.
C’mon, you’re slipping. If you’re going to blindly agree with everything Jerry says, you need to make sure you understand what he says first.
by kindablue on Oct 30, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, thats not what he said
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 31, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Verbatim Transcript of the Portion of the Interview
Interviewer: I mean, like, okay, I’ll give you a good example. I’m looking at Tennessee, and, and they say Bud Adams wants Vince Young to start, and then Vince Young ended up starting. Was there ever an instance where you had, maybe, Jimmy or anyone you said, "you know we need to get this guy out here on the field."
Jerry: I think we’ve done that with young players, principally, and the answer’s yes, and—I –no, I won’t give you the examples, but, uh, it’s happened frequently.
He said he made those decisions frequently, but you said he never said that.
Your tag line should read “Often in error, but never in doubt.”
by kindablue on Oct 31, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there is a huge difference
between making the lineup and telling the coach, I want this guy in the lineup and saying, “you know we need to get this guy in the lineup”.
One is a directive, the other a suggestion, big difference.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 31, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Difference Whatsoever
You’re trying to split hairs. Not only is it not a “huge difference”, it’s a distinction without a difference.
And it’s a slender argument that’s even harder to hide behind when the example given was the owner expressing a wish for a player to start and coach complying. That was a pretty clear example of the owner deciding who plays over the better judgment of the coach. A coach who doesn’t understand that so-called “suggestions” from his boss are meant to be acted on won’t be working for his boss for very long.
And you’re also trying to set up a red herring argument, that the owner is only interfering with the coaching when he makes out the lineup himself. An owner or GM can interfere with the coaching by doing precisely what Jerry has admitted doing, and no amount of phony arguments, obfuscation and hair-splitting can cover it up.
by kindablue on Oct 31, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, it's a difference
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 31, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not what he said in the intervier
He says in the interview that he regularly decides who will and won’t start.
by JimmyJohnson on Oct 30, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, because he is in charge of personnel.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 31, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is not what GM's do GM's acquire players
and Coaches decides who start and who are backups. Head coaches even decide who gets cut. This is definitely not the job of a GM.
I’m usually a defender of Jerry. But those comments are outrageous. He has no place in deciding who starts and who sits. That is the coaches job.
by quincyyyyy on Oct 31, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't listened to it yet.
Maybe I shouldn’t.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 31, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, Jerry didn't say that
Jerry said as the GM he has the power to decides who plays and who doesn’t…he never ever mentioned ever exercising it. The guy doing the interview tried to bait him into answering that, but he didn’t.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 31, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and how do you square that with what Ross Tcuker wrote?
Let me guess: He is a “hater”, right?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 31, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either that
Or because you don’t drink down the Kool-Aid fast enough for his liking, you’re not a “true” fan.
More evidence that professional sports is like orthodox religions.
by kindablue on Oct 31, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Yes He Did
He said he made those decisions, and “it’s happened frequently”. That is a direct quote. Verbatim.
by kindablue on Oct 31, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not what I heard
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 31, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you can't know what Jerry is thinking
The man is a master media manipulator (alliteration domination right there).
As the GM, he certainly has the final say over who plays, and he will not be fired by the owner.
I happen to agree with him on Roy starting. This is a big investment, with a lot of talent, who needs more time on the field, not less. I don’t see this as Jerry giving Roy a get out of jail free card, but rather he’s trying to show some support for the player. In this instance it’s the right call, IMO.
I would think an athlete as proud as Roy Williams puts the pressure on himself to produce. He’s already getting criticism from the fans, the media, and ex-Cowboys. I don’t see what good it does for Jerry to go on the record and say the guy’s starting position is on the line. Besides, it’s too early for that kind of talk. With Austin’s emergence as a big play threat, let’s give him a chance to improve before writing him off as a bad acquisition.
On Jerry’s out of character interview – Maybe he’s feeling strong after locking up Ware with a huge contract. Maybe he didn’t care for the interviewers pressing him and decided to tell them to shove it, he’s the boss, end of story. I don’t know, and I really don’t care. As someone else once said, ’How do you know when Jerry is lying? His lips are moving."
Are you ready for some football???
by APerfectStar on Oct 30, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know what he is thinking...
MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
"Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."
- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
by 5Blings on Oct 30, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's a given
But he also wants another Lombardi trophy as bad or worse than any of us. That’s why I don’t beat up on him. He might control all personnel decisions, but he’s learned to listen to advice from coaches, scouts, trusted front office guys outside the organization, and his son before he pulls the trigger on a player.
Are you ready for some football???
by APerfectStar on Oct 31, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can't win if he castrates his coaches
When the owner tells the coach who can and can’t start, the coach loses the ability to punish and reward players for performance in games and practice. When you do that, you get an organization with the level of success of the Raiders, Redskins, or the Cowboys for the last 13 years.
by JimmyJohnson on Oct 31, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The owner can always tell the coach who "should be on the field."
Any owner can and likely does. If the coach disagrees, the owner can get a new coach. Plain and simple.
I don’t even know the Giants owner’s name anymore, but I guarantee you if he wanted Eli Manning “on the field” and Coughlin wanted Kurt Warner, the owner would win.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Oct 31, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry should just quit this BS charade, demote Wade to DC, grab the headphones, and get down on the sideline on SUnday
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 31, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think he wouldn't like to.
Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 31, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I really don't know what is stopping him
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Oct 31, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would have to take too much heat over it.
And there would be no one left to fire when they lose.
Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 31, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's more comfortable in the owner's box
Are you ready for some football???
by APerfectStar on Oct 31, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personnel and why the coach doesn't matter as much as we think.
Examples: One year the Titans are 13-3, the next year they start the season 0-6. Did Jeff Fisher lose all his coaching ability in a few months? Probably not. But he did lose essentially the AFC Defensive Player of the Year over the summer. My point is as long as the personnel is good (which it is for the Cowboys right now) they are probably gonna win as long as the coaching isn’t too much of a hindrance, which to me it isn’t. The schemes the Cowboys run right now allow them to adjust midgame, i.e. after the Falcon’s 1st drive, their offense is shut down, the play that got Miles covered by a safety, etc. But to me, Jerry shouldn’t be firing coaches unless they are just an out and out embarrassment because he’s telling him who to play. Still there is the matter of 13 straight years without a playoff win. What people should be doing is asking Parcells and Jimmy Johnson if Jerry did in fact have final say over what players started in a game. That will answer many more questions.
by DatNguyenNguyenScenario on Oct 31, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I personally found this
debate quite interesting. It seems to boil down to perspective. Some believe that it’s Jerry’s job to see to it that Cowboy’s win and others believe that it is Jerry’s perogative to do what he sees fit, since it is his team. This reminds me of quote from Adam Smith also known as the father of modern capitalism: "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, brewer, or baker, (read that as Jerry) that we expect our dinner (read as winning team) but from their regard to their own self interest. We address ourselves not to their humanity but to their self love, and never talk to them of our necessities but of their advantages.
No one can deny the capitalistic elements of football. With seat licenses at $20,000 and up in some stadiums, the economics cannot be ignored. Yes, Jerry wants another SB but not at the expense of going broke. We are left with our only choice which is to change team favorites if we don’t like it or buy the team. Obviously complaining about it won’t change anything.
by jevans1729 on Nov 1, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Winning equals bucks
Winning enough to host a playoff game or games, means more tickets sold. Jerry does need to watch the bottom line, but the salary cap helps rein in the worst spenders. I don’ think anyone here believes that Jerry has been a skinflint when it comes to spending.
I respect that Jerry does not take the Donald Sterling approach and just keep payroll as low as possible and take his share of the TV money. I understand that Jerry desperately wants to win. MY objection is that with Jerry as the GM, he does not put the team which he owns in the best position to win. The guy ran off Jimmy Johnson due to ego. Does anybody here not think that cost the Cowboys a Super Bowl, their third in a row?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but he thinks he does
thats the difference
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, how is Bud Adams telling Jeff Fisher
he wants him starting Young any different??
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 8:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It is not any different.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't think so
Other teams do it, not just Jerry
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which in no way makes Jerry right
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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