Slipping Through Their Fingers: Denver Deflates Dallas, 17-10
by Rafael Vela on Oct 4, 2009 7:45 PM CDT
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PrintFootball games usually turn on a handful of close plays. Today's Cowboys-Broncos game was tighter than most, and several key plays literally slid between Dallas' hands, as Denver made a huge pass-and-run in the final three minutes and made a defensive stop inside their own five in the final ten seconds to secure a 17-10 win over Dallas.
The Cowboys faced a Denver defense that, as anticipated, played a pass-first game. They kept both safeties back in deep halves, taking away deep routes to the wide receivers and deep seams to the tight ends. Mike Nolan mixed some blitzes into his coverage blend, and Jason Garrett's two big pass plays of the first quarter came when he anticipated Denver blitzes and called quick screens to Marion Barber and Tashard Choice. The first, to Barber, broke up the left sideline for 27 yards and got Dallas off to a 3-0 lead.
The second came on the subsquent Dallas drive where Choice broke a tackle and raced up Denver's left flank for 28 yards. That drive culminated in a Barber one yard drive which gave Dallas a 10-0 lead.
Denver got back into the game early in the second on a Cowboys third down pass. Dallas went to an empty set for one of the few times in the game, with no back or tight end to assist the line. Denver called a corner blitz off the left slot, sending Renaldo Hill from Tony Romo's back side. The game was who got to the ball first. Romo's initial target was covered and Hill stripped him while he searched in vain for a second. A Broncos lineman recovered the ball and Kyle Kosier's tackle kept the Broncos out of the end zone, but at the Dallas nine.
On the next play, Broncos QB Kyle Orton threw a flare in the right flat for Knowshon Moreno, who was well covered by Anthony Spencer. Spencer jumped the route and looked to have clear sailing down the Denver sideline -- had he caught the ball. Orton's pass went right though his hands and was caught by Moreno, who somersaulted over Terence Newman for a touchdown. What could have been a turnover volley on consecutive plays instead cut Dallas' lead to 10-7.
A second turning point came at the start of the second half. Demarcus Ware knocked the ball from Moreno's hands on Denver's opening play from scrimmage and the Cowboys recovered near the Denver 30. Four plays later, Dallas faced 3rd-and-11 from the Broncos 17.
Here, Jason Garrett called a play he had run successfully in the first half. On Dallas' touchdown drive, Romo had converted a 3rd-and-long inside the red zone with a deep comeback right to Roy Williams, who ran LCB Champ Bailey off, snagged Romo's dart, then tapped both feet in bounds at the Denver three.
The play call was again the same, a comeback to the right sideline at Bailey. This time, the target was Miles Austin. Romo took his drop and threw to the spot on the right sideline. Only Austin didn't make the break. He squatted at the top of his pattern. Bailey, who had again been run back, recovered to make a diving sideline pick at his six.
Dallas had muffed their first half chance to erase their turnover. Here, Austin's confused route let Denver wipe out theirs, and keep the score at 10-7.
The third key whiff occured just after the two minute warning. Orton stood in the face of a Dallas blitz and threw a fade up the right sideline to Brandon Marshall. The ball was underthrown and Newman broke back and underneath Marshall. For an instant he appeared to have the pass lined up for a pick, but the ball went just over his reach into Marshall's hand. Newman then knocked out a Dallas safety while trying to track Marshall down. Marshall zig-zagged through the secondary into the end zone for the game's final score.
There was still time for one more opportunity and disappointment. Romo made one of his Houdini plays, converting a 4th-and-4 where he scrambled left out of the pocket and floated a pass to Sam Hurd, who made a lunging catch and run to the Denver 20. Romo made one more first down, hitting Hurd on the same comeback in front of Bailey at the Denver 8 with 29 seconds left.
A short pass to Patrick Crayton moved the ball to the three but forced the time-out deprived Romo to spike the ball, giving him two more shots into the end zone. Both were clear out passes to Hurd on Bailey over the middle. Both were close, but both were knocked away. Close doesn't count in football and Denver took the win.
Notes:
-- The value of Felix Jones was here for all to see, all afternoon. The Cowboys could grind with Barber and Choice, but their big gains were for 6, 7 and 11 yards. When the screens went to the edges, they were good for 27 and 28, but the lightning bolt was missing from the run arsenal. Denver was comfortable to keep its safeties deep and let the front seven handle the run, which it did with very well the final 40 minutes of the game.
The offense started to look like this last year after Felix went down in Arizona. Good thing he'll be back soon. Teams are going to play deep coverage until he returns, and the running game forces them closer to the line of scrimmage.
-- Sam Hurd was the right man on 4th-and-4, but the team really missed Roy Williams, whom Hurd replaced, down at the goal line. Williams was knocked from the game half way through the 4th when a deep dropping D.J. Williams popped Roy in the midsection. The initial view suggested the Dallas Williams had the wind knocked from him but he left the game after another catch over the middle, suggesting something more serious, like a rib injury.
The last two plays were jump ball situations, especially the 3rd-and-goal play, where Dallas' patterns created a huge void in the middle of the field where Hurd and Bailey went one-on-one. Dallas needed a big target to box out and snag the ball. He happened to be on the sideline, wincing.
-- The Marshall catch and run wiped out a big day by the secondary, which had recognized and denied every one of Denver's deep shots. Mike Jenkins in particular had a strong afternoon on the right corner. The defense needs to emphasize the positives from this game. The Dallas rush was the best of the year. It sacked Orton three times and pressured him into several other misfires. Denver's line is top notch, so there's hope the pass rush will continue to improve.
-- A tip of the hat to Mike Nolan's rush schemes, which broke down Dallas' protection several times.
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Bad clock management down the stretch
Bad decision to throw it at Champ Bailey 16 times.
Bad QB play to leave guys like Roy Williams hung out to dry with those lofty passes in the middle of the field.
Bad decision to just stop running the ball when it was working.
Bad decisions by Romo period.
Romo is overrated and I’ll leave it at that. I tried defending him but this is it. And don’t you dare bring up the Sam Hurd 53 yard play because it’s a microcosm of the big picture and how poorly Romo played.
Lastly you guys need an offensive line and a decent head coach.
Good luck the rest of the way.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Looked to me
like the run stopped working at some point
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
it stopped
in the first qtr.
denver’s d was tired at the end of the first qtr and we stop running.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
You gotta stick with the run. They got too cute and tried to go outside. Nothing wrong with 2nd and 7-8 instead of 2nd and 10+.
+ 10
they had denver’s d tired early in the 2nd qtr.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
SSreporters
How about we talk about Jason Garett who is the real problem… He is the one calling the back to back plays that are not working. He is the one who is abandoning the run game when clearly it was working.
Let us also not forget that he had Jason Witten blocking on 3 and goal and 4th and goal when the Cowboys needed to score….
Romo is not overrated, he needs someone who can call better plays to help their team win like most NFL teams do… (Manning is an exception)
I feel as though
clear out passes for hurd over the middle against champ bailey are just not the best strategy…the first one nearly worked but the window was still small.
If Bailey is on Hurd
that is a good thing.
Unless you throw at the aforementioned Hurd, who is covered by their best player.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Good pt.
You’d think you would look away from Champ instead of going right at him. Man, I just don’t understand it. Can anyone name Denver’s other CBs? I know they let Bly go.
Exactly
I didn’t see if they were doubling Crayton the whole game but really, try going after someone else
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Oct 4, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
"Can anyone name Denver’s other CBs? "
Andre Goodman is the other starter. Miami made a big mistake in letting him walk in free agency. He’s as good as Champ.
A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.
Louis L’Amour
I went back and watched the last couple of plays and made me sick...
Austin was open on the slant on both plays and Romo throws to the one thats covered…..un freaking real!!
Remember the days when he would make those throws and be the hero?
That’s what I liked about Romo. It could be 3rd and 17, and I’d say, “watch, they’ll pick this up”. Now, a 3rd and 4 has me biting my fingernails.
Something just ain’t right anymore.
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions
that's what Jim Miller was saying on Sirius last night..
btw, he does like Romo, but he said that Romo had the wrong read on that 4th down play. He said that Austin was open and for some weird reason, he throws to Hurd.
=(
Sadly I’m starting to realize it too
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Oct 4, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
it seems to me that Romo would make a
fantastic throw on 4 downs, but the first three are all enigma. As usual turnovers killed us and with the missed INT’s we made Orton look like a genius.
Secondary
looked great through the game, even with Sensabaugh out. I thought Watkins held up nicely and both Jenkins and Scandrick had good games. The whole defense was impressive, especially on the 4th down stop by Brooking and Jenkins. The offense just couldn’t click enough to get the points needed to win. I thought Romo looked “off” again this week with the timing on some throws just not what it usually is.
something is in Romo's head first game was good, second awful
third manageable, fourth awful again
Romo must go...
Tony Oh NO! was back to his slippery-fingered self…. snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, again. Outplayed badly by Orton. Romo must go.
so who we gonna get... WHO WE GONNA GET
stop all the nonsense w/ out first saying who is gonna take the snaps
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Oct 4, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I don't think Orton was at his best either.
He over threw several wide open recievers, especially early on and on deep passes down the middle. Then for a while, he was underthrowing people, especially in the medium routes. He also took at least a sack or two waiting for people to open up, rather than firing the ball out of bounds. He did finally seem to settle in durin the fourth quarter, however, going 6 for 8, I believe.
I thought it was a good game. Both teams had their good moments and their bad. It turned out to be just like a lot of us in both camps thought, a hard fought, old-fashioned, low scoring game that turned on a few special plays. Your feeling down right now but from where I sitting I see Dallas as a good football team that only needs to tweak a few things.
Good luck to you for the rest of the season. Who knows, maybe we’ll see each other again, down the road. Wouldn’t that be a game worth watching!
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Oct 5, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
well...
besides that #90 guy.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you are looking for the optimists lounge
This is the Pessimists Pub.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Speak for yourself...
I’m not being pessimistic, just realistic.
Right now this isn’t a good team. They are just good enough to tease you with streaks of talent.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I know...
Guess I’m just frustrated because I really am feeling pessimistic. Completely frustrating team.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
How can you not be pessimistic
This team is now in a descent. 2006-07 was a mini peak for us. We may not see the playoffs again for a few years, which will mean another cycle of players at OL, WR, etc.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Now how is that for pessimistic
I honestly believe it though.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I really like what Brooking brings
and the defense is playing good they just F’ up at the worst times
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Oct 4, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
It's starting now
This is going to get in his head. Self fufilling prophecy. And bad karma fans will finish the job. There are fans and then there are fans.
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Oct 4, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions
If only
that punt hadn’t hit the endzone line. Again, a heads up play by Crayton that could have been the difference.
Illegal block
it wasn’t going for 6. They picked up the flag
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course
if it hadn’t hit the line, Crayton would have got popped and the ball would have come loose for a Denver TD.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, heads up play by Crayton
That’s his 3rd or 4th big play nullified by a penalty, or in this case would have been nullified if the punt hadn’t hit the goal line.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 4, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Raf good write-up but,
horrible play calling.
We throw more tight end screens than any other team.
We single handily kill ever momentum drive with a stupid play call. Tashard choice on an inside draw, quick passes to miles and crayton.
The play calling is horrendous.
Call the cowboys for what they are.
An 8-8 team at best.
The defense plays hard and the offense does nothing.
Time to park Romo’s ass and his backward hat on the bench. Let him know what it feels like to be on the bench!
I cringe everytime he goes back to pass.
Tuna knew exactly what he had with Romo!!!
The more and more you think about what TO said he was absolutely correct.
The offensive coordinator is the problem along with the QB.
Dude
TO a sage? Every qb he plays for has a problem and it’s usually him. Today, he can’t be blamed but I can’t believe we’re drinking in his poison drink of advice
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Oct 4, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Was TO
right about Garrett and Romo last year?
For that matter was cayton,to and RW right about garrett?
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
What has TO done
Nothing, we need a new WR tho
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Oct 4, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say too generous
its what we look like… 8-8, mediocre
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Oct 4, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
-1
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're right about The Tuna knowing what he had with Romo.
If he felt like this team was close, and that Romo was going to be great, why did he leave? He knew that this team was just not going to be there, plus Jerry forced T.O. down his throat. I’m afraid Romo is what he is; a roller coaster ride of a QB. Jerry Jones is starting to look more and more like a younger version of Al Davis. This team hasn’t done anything since Jimmy’s team got old and fell apart. Al Davis has ruined the Raiders, and Jerry is doing the same with the Cowboys. He needs to stop playing GM and stop meddling.
This is a mediocre team
This team is mediocre. Once again they blow a lead in the 4th quarter. The offense scores 10pts in the first quarter and then gets blanked the rest of the game. Pathetic. Oh well. Not the end of the world.
Fire Wade too...
Outside of a visit to Oz, this current team isn’t going to win a playoff game, let alone finish .500. Turn the reigns over to Garrett and see what he can do in a tough situation for the remainder of the year. Wade should have pulled Romo after the Red Zone pick, but he lacks the balls. Thanks for a miserable three years Wade, you piece of #$%*t
are u nuts!!
we are in the predicatment becuase of garrett.
If I was Wade I would take Garret outside for a whupping.
wade is going to get canned beacause of the RHG.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Thay may be so
but Wade doesn’t have the guts to stand up to anyone.
by lildrummerboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
+10
agreed,
I don;t think it would matter.
jerry loves the RHG.
shame.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I know you're just trolling
but how can you come on here and say that the pick isn’t Austin’s fault? He ran the wrong route, plain and simple.
How do you know?
Why is every pick because the receiver ran the wrong route? Why is it that Romo never throws to the wrong place?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
because it was obvious it was an out pattern
Just a miscommunication, it happens to all qbs and wrs.
In Romo we Trust
Romo is playing not to lose.
Before he played to win.It seems that he tried to change his gunslinger attitude.Maybe he reads these blogs too much,if so he should know that whatever he does he is going to be wrong.
How is it obvious? Because that is where Romo threw the ball?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
he threw the exact same pass to RW
in the first qrt on an out, that was the route he called. You could tell Romo and Austin just wasn’t on the same page.
Romo was inaccurate on some throws Sunday, but that wasn’t one of them.
In Romo we Trust
How do you know what route was called? You are just assuming that it was the same route
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
So it is simply beyond the realm of possibility that the play called for the receiver to break the other way?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Inaccurate on some throws?
Thats an understatment, he had a crapy day. I hope he comes back to form at KC.
For two reasons...
First, it was the same pattern he threw to Roy Williams in the first half…secondly, Romo was talking to him on the sidelines and was showing him the way he should have went…
Does anybody know if th WR said "No, dumbass, I broke the right way, you blew the pass?"
Why is it always the WR who ran the wrong route, it is never Romo blowing the throw?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I thought it was a discussion about one specific play
I don’t think anyone said Romo is always right. I’m willing to bet he’s been in the wrong a few times. But on that play, it sure looked like Austin was expected to break to the sideline.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 6, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
good teams play differently
-Romo’s inability to see blitz, the result fumble, on top of it we should have picked Orton on the first TD throw
-creating a TO and give away INT in the red zone
-TNew not picking the pass to Marshall
and so forth, we should have put the game away in the second qtr
Hurd not getting out of bounds - twice in critical situations
Timeouts would have been nice at the end.
Delay of game nullifying a first down – that is almost a turnover
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually...
If you watch the replays, he did get out of bounds both times. On the first play, the long pass, his shoulder was the first thing to land after getting hit and it hit the line. That should have been out of bounds.
On the second, he chose to run out of bounds, but the referee awarded forward progress which does not stop the clock instead of recognizing that Hurd went out of bounds on purpose.
Little things, but indeed frustrating.
He didn't try on the second one
On the first one he tried to squeeze every last yard when the priority is stopping the clock
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
What was the Giants record
at this time in their super bowl year a couple years back when we skipped and sang and frollicked our way to 13-3? Pray somebody tell
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Oct 4, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions
don't even
compare this team to the giants the year they won the super bowl.
That is ridicuous. W eare no where close to the level theginats were that year.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The Giants were godawful the first two weeks
but that was spagnuolo’s first year…
Although you coul compare this post TO offense to their defense maybe.
not even close...
the giants lost two games to two very good team, we lost because we $u(k
because we suck
are two loses came in the last 2mins of each game anf they have a combined record of 8-0
What the French?! Toast!
who did we beat?
two teams combine for ZERO wins and we are going into week 5?
Neither were they
at the time. The lost their first 2 games. One of them to us. I’ll compare it any time I feel like it, this is America and I plan to be back in front of the next game and the next game and the next game. And Tony Romo will be quarterbacking America’s team. And you’ll be watching it too, wanting Tony Romo to do what you say he can’t do, expecting him to do it. By this time next week, you’ll rationalize why you should keep watching. Tell me where I’m wrong
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Oct 4, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
come on thumb u know there's no possibly to it - you'll be there ; ) as will i (sigh)
kinda’ depressing ain’t it
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
+100
Yes
unfortunately cursin g at my TV like alittle kid!!!!!!!
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
i agree
while this is very frustrating, people need to avoid overreacting to a close loss this early in the season, just like we need to avoid overreacting to our wins.
There’s a lot of football still to play.
If we lose next week I’ll start to panic lol.
But if Felix really can come back after the bye, that will very much help our offense get its mojo back.
Our defense overall played very well today, and our special teams was good too. We didn’t totally suck.
I’m definitely losing confidence in Romo and sort of hoping he doesn’t make a dumb mistake instead of expecting him to make a play, but nevertheless anyone who says he shouldn’t be our QB is crazy. Yes, craaaazzzy! Good QBs are very rare, and Romo is a very good QB despite some bad games. I mean Brady has also struggled with his accuracy so far this season and gave up a fumble TD today. Even great QBs have bad games. Romo is no Brady (yet) but he’s miles ahead of anyone else we could possible hope to get to replace him, so I’ll say it again, anyone who thinks we should replace him at this point is crazy. Now if he keeps it up and this trend continues as the season progresses, instead of him bouncing back like he did after the bad game against the Giants, then I’ll join those questioning if he really is the QB we need, but it is still way too early in the season to jump off the ledge and call for his head.
I'm with you...
used to be I thought he was going to make a play every time, now I’m praying for no turnover every time.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
The loss at home to a divisional foe was much worse than this loss.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 4, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Felix
as usual with this coaching staff, I don’t really trust their prognoses, so I hope you’re right that Felix will be back soon. Without him this offense struggles.
Sam, oh Sam, he made a great play on 4th down to keep the drive alive and give us a chance to come back, but why oh why couldn’t he have gotten out of bounds? If he had, we wouldn’t have had to use a time out then, then would not have had to spike the ball at the goal line, and would have had one more shot. Maybe we wouldn’t have made it, but we would have had one more try, and that was a crucial mental mistake that marred an otherwise great play.
and again at the ten - he let his forward progress
stop instead of fighting for the sideline.
Teams with our talent level can’t pull this crap
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually....
If you watch the replays, he did get out of bounds both times. On the first play, the long pass, his shoulder was the first thing to land after getting hit and it hit the line. That should have been out of bounds.
On the second, he chose to run out of bounds, but the referee awarded forward progress which does not stop the clock instead of recognizing that Hurd went out of bounds on purpose.
Little things, but indeed frustrating.
How can you rely on someone who can't stay healthy?
Speed doesn’t help you when it is on the sidelines.
well i just want to state one thing ive seen
TNEW missing that pick was bad yes but the misstackling was not. Think about if they tackle marshall they just eat the clock and kick a fg. Yuck id rather lose the way we did today then the other team and eat the clock and kick a fg
What the French?! Toast!
one play
does not lose a game.
Constant over throws and turnovers lose games.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
One play can lose a game.
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
my thoughts exactly...
we atleast had a shot at overtime
AND...
remember all the crap we laid on retard face, Charlie Brown, every single thing about Eli that could be said about him was said, and none of it was too complimentary
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Oct 4, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions
A stupid question
Can Kitna play any worse?
yes
first, kitna looked about as accurate ipreseason as romo does now. Second, Kitna kept fumbling snaps.
You also dont give up on your franchise qb that quickly. Romo has earned the righto keep starting, at least fora couple more weeks.
I am not sure
how Romo has earned anything.
I would think current performance should be the measuring stick for playing time.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm not lobbying for Kitna to play, but in his defense what chance did he have with our
2nd string O. line out there to protect him (everybody agrees we can’t afford injuries on our starting O. line) – the guy was more concerned with staying alive than completing passes
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
now the fumbling snaps thing - there's no defense for that - Kitna = guilty as charged
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I never realized that the slippery ball in Seattle
was going to be par for the course with how Romo plays. The ball just always seems to get away from him at the worst times.
yes indeed
Jeff Garcia could have picked up a W today though. I would like to dump Kitna and pick him up.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
If you told me that we had two passes at the goal line
and Bailey was covering Hurd, I would be overjoyed.
Hurd is the worst option. And Romo chose him twice.
It's not a choice like he sees a 24 and a 17 on a jersey in a split second.
He sees a white jersey open for a split second and gets a throw in. That’s it. The throw was there. It wasn’t caught.
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Really
he doesn’t look at the matchups at all before the snap of the ball?
He locked on to Hurd twice and threw at him twice.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Hurd is the only guy he can trust to catch the ball.
Guess he can’t trust any of the WRs.
I know not all throws are perfect from any QB, but WRs HAVE to make the catch when their fingers touch that pigskin.
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He can't trust anyone else
Interesting,
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess we need an Eli Manning type
who can recognize Jacques Reeves and work him over, instead of just seeing colors.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Orange should be an easy one to differentiate.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know what this means
but teams managed to never throw at Deion. I guess Romo lacks the skills required based on what you are telling me.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm no definite genius on Romo's skills, just a simple observer like the rest of us here.
Sure he is aware that Champ is on a certain spot of the field, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it was his idea to attack that particular DB so much in the game. I’d be going after Goodman if I had anything to do with the Cowboys’ gameplan.
Also, 0 deep passes. Wasn’t it you and I who were “talking” last week about how Jimmy Johnson knew when to go for the throat with taking shots downfield, especially in road games? Two or three attempts on Goodman would not have been negative plays, even if incomplete. I thought that’s why they had Austin in so much.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You have two big tight ends....
How about trying to throw one their way and use their size advantage? Twice to Hurd? That’s ridiculous!
I thought the same thing.
That was asking Hurd to do an awful lot in there between all that orange.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions
IT wasn't me
but deep shots always serve a purpose. Like a slapshot at a goalie’s ear.
I liked the deep shot that was unfortunately lobbed at the Giants safety.
I think in that situation Romo can scan the field pre snap and guess on a more favourable matchup
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
And another thing we did not see.
Usually, they throw to Witten early to get a feel for the defense. I didn’t get to see what they were doing to him during the game, but it’s troubling that Romo did not have him to rely on. Often, he can pick up his rhythm with a few short passes early.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget...
when the Pats beat us, Brady seeked out Reeves and Nate Jones and threw on them all day. I think Stallworth and Welker broke huge gains and had 100+ yds. I mean, isn’t that what coaching is for? Isn’t it all about finding the matchups favorable to you? I’m sick of hearing Garrett and Romo say, well, we take what the defense gives us. That makes no sense when you throw at their best CB with your worst WR with the game on the line. What the hell are you working on that whole week? Targeting Champ?
Austin was open twice on the slant...go back and look...
and have your puke bag nearbye because it made me sick as hell seeing that…blame it on Romo or Garrett, but that was pathetic!!!
That sucks.
I’m gonna have to watch the game again, anyways. Finding the open receiver use to be Romo’s strength. It’s impossible to explain what’s going on with him if he’s lost his vision.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 6:51 AM CDT up reply actions
stop the maddness
we are 2-2 with both loses coming from opps who are 8-0.. and both loses the cowboys did not play their best ball BUT still were in the game. Look back to the past superbowl winners.. were they the teams that started off hot and everyone was prediciting superbowl since sept. OR were they the team that struggled and fought to get into the playoffs and finally come together in dec and take it to feb….
the cowboys are not done not by any means
What the French?! Toast!
do you have any
confidence in Romo in a last game in december facing the giants and eagles in NY and Philly.
Sorry I do not.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
but the D is coming around
look at the giants run for the ring.. eli didnt have any faith and he really didnt win in the playoffs just didnt lose it… the D will get better to great and the rush O will keep the points
What the French?! Toast!
Agreed
The defense was on the field too long in the 2nd half.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
That's sounds too simple.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Eli didn't loose games, he was a "bus driver", Romo so far is way off, I'd rather
have the gun slinger throwing to “drop 2 out of 3 and complain for a week” WR, but still ending up with 2 TDs and winning games, than making NY and Denver a fantastic 4-0 teams
Me 2.
But something is waaaaaaaay off with this QB and these WRs. Whatever it is; it sucks.
IMO, the ’Boys need a Welker, S.Smith, 3rd-Down guy. You get third-down conversions, you keep drives alive.
Activate Ogletree against the Chiefs. Enuff with these other guys. We just need first downs.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
But the champ pick sucked because that isn’t the first time that Austin has ran the wrong route.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone knows that Crayton's best in the slot
Unfortunately, none of our other guys has stepped up.
I like Ogletree too.
I think he could make some plays out there. Maybe he could help give them a spark.
Unfortunately for the Cowboys...
We have to jack our record up early because I guarantee we go 0-4 in December.
Beware D-Ware
December scares me. This team gets cold with the weather.
I hope they prove me wrong this year!
Well usually we light it up in September, so I think trends like that have gone out the window.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The cowboys are done
What are you watching???
I’ve seen this same crap from this team since the first half of the Greenbay game two years ago. Remember this team in the last 24 games is 12-12. and they take the same stupid penalties since then, the same poor quarterback play and the same defense that never seems to makes the big stop championship teams make…. The house cleaning needs to start soon, possibly the bye week..
Turnover Tony - BIG IN NAME, NO BIG GAME.
Deke - I thought Romo had regressed last year as a quarterback, Poor Mechaniics,Poor Footwork,Poor decsions, Poor Throws. His game and numbers just don't lie. Tony has to get it in his head, that he has to take better care of the football and make better decisions on the field if he wants to be an elite Quarterback. He has tools, he just has to put it all together on a consistant basis.
Aikman on Romo - When the games are close, you have to be smart with the football and that has been a problem with Tony.
JJT - by the numbers - In Romo's first 23 games as a starter, 17-6 with 50 touchdown passes, 24 interceptions and a 101.7 passer rating. The Cowboys were 12-1 and en route to earning the NFC's top playoff seed.
Since then, Romo is 11-9 as a starter with 34 touchdowns, 23 interceptions and a 85.0 passer rating.
The guy from the first 23 starts can lead the Cowboys to a championship; the guy from the last 20 starts can't.
Jimmy Johnson on Romo - KISS as in "Keep It Simple Sir: (If Romo keeps turning the ball over like he did against the Giants, KISS might stand for, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
then you can stop watching now
but this team is not done not at all.
So it might not have an amazing passing attack but the run can carry this team and so can the D… like troy or joe said today this offense is in transition mode. Once JG figures it out and starts using short passes, utlilizing BOTH TE’s more and the RB’s well be ok. Like the eagles did all those years without a deep threat WR
What the French?! Toast!
After 4 weeks JG
has not changed one thing!!!
In the two losses he was runnign the ball and he stops.
He has the princeton phobia.
I am smarter than everyone else.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
bye weeks can do wonders
i think hell get it and after the bye this team will become a smash mouth Offense with a brick wall Defense
What the French?! Toast!
Bigham you are either
more optimistic than me or you are Jerry Jones.
I don’t see this guy changing.
He had the gints and broncos on the ropes today and let them get away again.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
hell get it
because i’ll make him.. i mean jerry jones will make him get it…
What the French?! Toast!
not as simple as "hes running the ball then stops"
we did run the ball in the second half, and it didn’t get many yards. THe result was long yardage situations where Romo was very innacurate, which quickly ended drives
We stopppd running the ball
late in the 2nd qtr.
denver’s d was tired and we started throwing the ball.
Keep the FB in the game and they could not stop the run.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly
lets get both rbs on the field more often with a fb/te or with another te and one wr.. the backs can catch the tes can catch better than alot of wrs lets keep defenses guessing which side we are running or which te is going out to pass
What the French?! Toast!
I don't get that either
Why would you abandon the running game when you are ahead? I’d like to see Romo get on track as much as the next guy, but not at the expense of a win.
I agree.
Even if up by just 3, chew up that clock and get down into, at least, FG position. Games like that show, you don’t always need TDs to win.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions
you mean the tightend that always seems to line up on the wrong side
causes us to burn timeouts and stops running his routes, is that the tightend you’re talking about in Bennett. Tell me when is the quarterback going to stop holding on to the ball too long in the pocket, and stop throwing over wide open receivers heads, or behind them, or at their feet or to the other team, when is that going to stop happening. tell me…because in the last ten games, I haven’t seen anything different than I watched in the first four games this year. Our offense is a power running ball control offense, I’ve only said that for three years now but plays finese to often and short passes is what we are now since our receivers can’t get open or the quarterback over throws them when they are open.
Transition, transitioning to what?? Again what are you watching? We have no field stretching threat on the outside, again said that a thousand times, and why is that, because we don’t draft any speed receivers earlier in the draft other than the seventh rounders or projects in the fourth round. Our only speed is Felix Jones on the offense, that’s a problem, when he’s out, and he’s now an injury prone player, this team is below to average on offense.
Take a look at the Eagles and Giants and the speed and talent they’ve made at the receiver position the last three years and compare them to what Dallas has done at the receiver position, there is no comparison, the Giants and Eagles have made leaps and bound at the receive rposition compared to Dallas.
Dallas is playing their weakest part of their schedule now and have already lost to a divisional apponent at home….. and are actually three games behind the Giants at this point four weeks into the season
Turnover Tony - BIG IN NAME, NO BIG GAME.
Deke - I thought Romo had regressed last year as a quarterback, Poor Mechaniics,Poor Footwork,Poor decsions, Poor Throws. His game and numbers just don't lie. Tony has to get it in his head, that he has to take better care of the football and make better decisions on the field if he wants to be an elite Quarterback. He has tools, he just has to put it all together on a consistant basis.
Aikman on Romo - When the games are close, you have to be smart with the football and that has been a problem with Tony.
JJT - by the numbers - In Romo's first 23 games as a starter, 17-6 with 50 touchdown passes, 24 interceptions and a 101.7 passer rating. The Cowboys were 12-1 and en route to earning the NFC's top playoff seed.
Since then, Romo is 11-9 as a starter with 34 touchdowns, 23 interceptions and a 85.0 passer rating.
The guy from the first 23 starts can lead the Cowboys to a championship; the guy from the last 20 starts can't.
Jimmy Johnson on Romo - KISS as in "Keep It Simple Sir: (If Romo keeps turning the ball over like he did against the Giants, KISS might stand for, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
ok again ill say it now
what superbowl team in the past 10 years was playing lights out football in the first half of the year? go ahead look
What the French?! Toast!
Let it go deke has made up his mind a long time ago, he is the ying to that yang that is Terry
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
LOL
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 4, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Patriots went 18-0 and made it to the superbowl two years ago
is that recent eough for you
The Cowboys are nowhere near the Patriots, and this isn’t eh AFC east. In the NFC east, you can’t afford subpar starts or give games away and expect to make it to the playoffs
Turnover Tony - BIG IN NAME, NO BIG GAME.
Deke - I thought Romo had regressed last year as a quarterback, Poor Mechaniics,Poor Footwork,Poor decsions, Poor Throws. His game and numbers just don't lie. Tony has to get it in his head, that he has to take better care of the football and make better decisions on the field if he wants to be an elite Quarterback. He has tools, he just has to put it all together on a consistant basis.
Aikman on Romo - When the games are close, you have to be smart with the football and that has been a problem with Tony.
JJT - by the numbers - In Romo's first 23 games as a starter, 17-6 with 50 touchdown passes, 24 interceptions and a 101.7 passer rating. The Cowboys were 12-1 and en route to earning the NFC's top playoff seed.
Since then, Romo is 11-9 as a starter with 34 touchdowns, 23 interceptions and a 85.0 passer rating.
The guy from the first 23 starts can lead the Cowboys to a championship; the guy from the last 20 starts can't.
Jimmy Johnson on Romo - KISS as in "Keep It Simple Sir: (If Romo keeps turning the ball over like he did against the Giants, KISS might stand for, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
Just to annoy you quinyyyy...lol
I’ll shorten it tomorrow, just wanted to point out some things for Terry, who loves his Tony Romo…..I just hope his love for Tony isn’t wiavering……
Turnover Tony - BIG IN NAME, NO BIG GAME.
Deke - I thought Romo had regressed last year as a quarterback, Poor Mechaniics,Poor Footwork,Poor decsions, Poor Throws. His game and numbers just don't lie. Tony has to get it in his head, that he has to take better care of the football and make better decisions on the field if he wants to be an elite Quarterback. He has tools, he just has to put it all together on a consistant basis.
Aikman on Romo - When the games are close, you have to be smart with the football and that has been a problem with Tony.
JJT - by the numbers - In Romo's first 23 games as a starter, 17-6 with 50 touchdown passes, 24 interceptions and a 101.7 passer rating. The Cowboys were 12-1 and en route to earning the NFC's top playoff seed.
Since then, Romo is 11-9 as a starter with 34 touchdowns, 23 interceptions and a 85.0 passer rating.
The guy from the first 23 starts can lead the Cowboys to a championship; the guy from the last 20 starts can't.
Jimmy Johnson on Romo - KISS as in "Keep It Simple Sir: (If Romo keeps turning the ball over like he did against the Giants, KISS might stand for, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
we are 2-2
with both loses coming from 8-0 teams in the last seconds.. a play different in each game and this same team you are saying is done would be 4-0… really a team that is done is the raiders or rams defn not the cowboys… sure they arent perfect but they have the makings to turn it around..
good ST
good RB
good D
all are getting better
step out from the ledge please
What the French?! Toast!
this team looks more to me of a team where the window is closing
and on the decline than on the rise..
I was told to step from the ledge last year when I said the better team lost last year when the Eagles lost to the cowboys early last year….. The Eagles made the NFC champioship game, the cowboys missed th playoffs
Turnover Tony - BIG IN NAME, NO BIG GAME.
Deke - I thought Romo had regressed last year as a quarterback, Poor Mechaniics,Poor Footwork,Poor decsions, Poor Throws. His game and numbers just don't lie. Tony has to get it in his head, that he has to take better care of the football and make better decisions on the field if he wants to be an elite Quarterback. He has tools, he just has to put it all together on a consistant basis.
Aikman on Romo - When the games are close, you have to be smart with the football and that has been a problem with Tony.
JJT - by the numbers - In Romo's first 23 games as a starter, 17-6 with 50 touchdown passes, 24 interceptions and a 101.7 passer rating. The Cowboys were 12-1 and en route to earning the NFC's top playoff seed.
Since then, Romo is 11-9 as a starter with 34 touchdowns, 23 interceptions and a 85.0 passer rating.
The guy from the first 23 starts can lead the Cowboys to a championship; the guy from the last 20 starts can't.
Jimmy Johnson on Romo - KISS as in "Keep It Simple Sir: (If Romo keeps turning the ball over like he did against the Giants, KISS might stand for, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
ok so?
the window might be closing but it isnt closed.
my point remains the same
A) both loses were in the last seconds to 8-0
B} ST and D keeps getting better
C) Got the backs and Oline to be a power house run team
D) 2-2 still in it still alot of football
superbowl teams are rarely hot from the start but become a TEAM because of their fights in the trenches early on and learning how to overcome adversity early in the season which benefits them later in the season
ok good night
What the French?! Toast!
Th window closed when this team lost to the Giants in the playoffs.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
because I have been a cowboy fan since Tom Landry shuttled Craig Morton and Roger Staubach
This was MY Team long before Jerry Jones bought it. If I outlive JJ, go willing, it will still be MY team. I don’t bail when they don’t look good, but I am honest and they don’t look good right now, nor did they look last year either.
This team is not good. They had a shot Wade’s first year, but they ran into the Giants who were the hottest team in the NFL at the time. Since then, this team has flat out sucked and crapped teh bed when it mattered.
Being honest about your favorite team’s chances does not make you less of a fan. It just makes you realistic
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
That is what I think
This year is the same as last year, maybe worse.
If we beat Seattle in 2006 we may have gone to the SB that year. It could have changed so many things.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Get off that Giants 2-2 crap
During that stretch the last two games were both wins and both against divisional opponents. Who have we beaten ? Winless teams.
Tony Romo = Leon Lett
Can a reader please dig up Tony’s wunderlich score… he makes Quincy looks like a Rhodes Scholar. Romo is the dumbest person, on and off the field, that Tex can remember.
He scored a 36
Aikman scored a 29. The Wonderlic is useless.
by lildrummerboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Not entirely
Romo would make a better Accounts Receivables manager or Operations Supervisor.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Austin & Hurd
This year. That’s it. If they don’t produce at all, we need to get rid of them and start drafting them like Philly and NYG and any other normal team does (instead of Jerry either overpaying in free agency or signing undrafted ones). Hell Ogletree can’t do any worse, can he?
Right before Romo fumbled
I told my son Romo needs to make sure and not do anything stupid. Within seconds he fumbled away the ball and the Broncos scored. I saw it coming before it happened. It was just one of those situations he tends to mess up in. My son got mad when I said it, and then boom, he puts the ball on the ground. Back to the drawing board.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
That's what my son said.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
Just kidding
That’s all superstition. But, I do wish people would support the team and the people on it while the season is going on and we still have a chance to win enough games to go to the dance. It is possible, but we really need to be good fans. By that I mean HAVE FAITH until we know we’re deader than a door nail. Don’t think we’re there yet.
I’ll be checking in throughout the week, going back to MY life now, this vicarious trip is now over for the time. I can’t stand you aginers. If I hung around you I’d be suicidal. But I love ya’ll. You just need to be more positive and quit quacking like ducks. Good night, watching Titanic, gonna go eat some salad or something . Ya’ll have a great week, don’t let this ruin it.
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Oct 4, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
This is football, not religion, faith has nothing to do with it.
Realistically, this team has not layed well this year, and has not played well in a long time. I will be here next week watching the Cowboys like i have done since 1971, but this team looks like a loser
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
is there such thing as a lemon law for football fans?
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
sadly no
that’s the definition of a fan. we will keep coming back for more no matter the quality of the product lol
I was explaining the devastation to my lovely wife
who told me to just take it less seriously.
That just isn’t an option. Sadly.
I shouldn’t have listened to Desolation Row today.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
lol - yeah! i take back all my Romo bashing....at the time i was unaware that
white wolf had jinxed him!
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL.
I’m not psychic or anything. I’ve just come to expect mistakes when we really can’t afford them. You gotta ask yourself, why would I being saying that at that exact moment. But hey, if it makes you feel better.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
: ) i hear ya man - just pullin' your chain - it's one of those "laugh to keep from
crying" things….this team just absolutely pisses me off so much sometimes
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll be here pulling for them all year.
Maybe Romo should stop worrying and just get back to slinging it. Oh, BTW, that was my other comment to my son during the game. I said ok Tony time to be a gunslinger, and boom he throws the Champ pick within seconds. There seems to be a trend here.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
Don't worry, I'll say it myself.
Keep your damn mouth shut during the game, Wolf!
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
One more thing...
I highly doubt it, but we need to find out if this McGee kid is the QB of the future. If not, get rid of him and draft someone that can take the reins in a few years.
dude
McGee is like 3-4 years in the future. We can’t wait that long. The world is ending in 2012!
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Roy Williams is not much more than a TE
Great hands, but Keyshawn was a better player and he was way older and slower.
use RW
correctly and he is effective.
we never ever throw a slant to him.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather see him throw slants than sideline passes.
The WRs don’t even seem to know when he’s throwing the sideline routes, so why even have those in the playbook? Plus, he guns passes over the middle but the sideline throws have an arc to them that attracts defenders. What’s up with that? Do the coaches expect anything different there?
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
No means no. Stop forcing the sideline throws.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
He did have one nice sideline pass
The one Roy caught above his head in front of Champ B.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 4, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but that is a low reward throw.
They may get a 14-yard first down, which is great and all; but, the dark Pick6 cloud looms its gloom over every one of those throws.
Bravo to RW for bringing that one down, btw.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Why overpay
for a receiver who is a round peg in the square hole that our offense demands?
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You Are What You Are...
As a fan I hate to have admit that this is an average team with average players and average coaching. I think their only wins this year may come against teams with records of .500 or less. So, they better take advantage of next weeks game against KC.
maybe so
our wins are against two winless teams, and our losses are against two undefeated teams.
so we’re somewhere in the middle.
Without Felix, I think maybe we’re average. With Felix back, I think we’re above average, with the defense playing better now and the special teams much improved and consistent.
Much football to be played still…
What adjustments did Denver make?
Our running game was gashing them pretty good in the first half and it seemed like we were running the ball really well, but when the game ended, I wondered why I hadn’t seend Barber much in the 2nd half. As if they preferred Choice against the Denver front, which surprised me given how well Barber seemed to be playing. Did he rehurt the quad? Or did Denver make some kind of defensive adjustment that limited our rushing effectiveness?
I still don't think Barber's quad was 100%
he ran okay and made some plays, but he really did seem to be favoring it
No it was
JG being smarter than everyone as usual.
when we lined anderon up at FB we were getting5 – 6 yards a rush.
Too simple for the Princeton guy!
I agree that there is some truth to that...
I feel like a lot of the times the Cowboys try to be a little too smart and run a large amount of option routes and adjustments at the line that lead to confusion at certain points. I just don’t feel everyone is on the same page and until that is fixed, this team will continue to underachieve.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would they not use Bennett
In place of RW at the goal line? Was he hurt? I couldn’t figure that out.
Not just on the goal line
Even Aikman pointed out how good Bennet looked in the preseason and yet how little he was being utilized in the passing game. Espcially, like you point out, in the endzone.
yeah
I was thinking that was actually a good chance for a jump ball to Martellus in the end zone, instead of matching Hurd up against Bailey twice in a row.
That is another
pass Romo cannot make.
The fade.
he can’t throw a slant or a fade.
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
to be fair
he used to be better throwing the slant. Honestly, he had trouble hitting anything downfield that moved today
I think the Cowboys once again tried to get a little too cute
by having our TE’s on those plays run outside-fade type routes and open the middle for Hurd on Bailey (which I suppose would be the unexpected play I suppose). To be completely honest, I was kind of hoping that Garret would call the draw (the simple one, not the gimmicky one) to Choice on fourth down because he is exceptionally good at picking the right hole to squeeze through for a few yards.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
becasue the
RHG gensius said
everyone knows we are going to throw to bennett or witten so I will outsmart them and throw to hurd who is covered by the best DB in football.
Makes sens!!
by oneforthethumb on Oct 4, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
yup, but on that very last one, they showed the replay a couple of times...that pass was
pretty much about as perfect as it could be – but it was really really good coverage
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
But what bothered me
is that in both games, we ran the same play twice in a row. Two fades to the left last week, two slants to the right this week. Can’t we confuse the opponent a little better?
that's a question for Romo
I guess he went to the receiver that he thought had the best chance to score
difference
1 yard line vs. 3 yard line
dominating run game that has blasted through the defense, vs. struggling run game
When you are dominating in the run and are on the 1 yard line, run it.
when you are not dominating in the run, and are on the 3 yard line with no time left, a jump pass to Bennett is not a bad call.
I just hope that are practicing that so the execution can be there in the future, because it should certainly be in the playbook.
Do you think somewhere in different parts of the country
Tony Romo and Terrell Owens will be looking up into the sky at the same star tonight singing “Somewhere Over the Rainbow?”
Or maybe R. Kelly’s “If I Could Turn Back the Hands of Time?”
If IIIIIIII Could Tuuuuuuurrrrrrrnnnnnn….Turn Back the Haaaaaandddss of Timmmmee.
Then my darling yoooooooouuuuu….Would still be Miiiiiiiiiiinnnnee.
HaHa. We suck.
OBSERVATION - EMOTION = COMMON SENSE
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 4, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions
how about we trade back for Romo's BFF, or trade Romo to the BFF's current team, seems
both of them can’t function on their own
Or just tell them I will never throw to you again if you don't run the right route or catch the damn ball.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly think sometimes he actually needs to tell them the route
since it appears that they don’t always know their routes.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
He just throws them high passes across the middle
And lets the defense punish ’em.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 4, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's messed up what happened to RW.
Romo got him killed on that one.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I know what we're missing . . .
Romo played his best when Jessica was in the stands. Clearly she’s the major influence on whether Romo plays well or poorly. Let the dating begin again.
He played his best when he was dating Carrie Underwood, bring her back
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
LMFAO
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
I think she's a Texans fan, though.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
TO might get open,
but he would just drop the pass.
by lildrummerboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
at least he'd get other guys open
OBSERVATION - EMOTION = COMMON SENSE
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 4, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me call you a whambulance for the spilled milk you keep crying over.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Oh good God,
I was just making a joke. And making the observation that Tony and T.O. are struggling without eachother.
OBSERVATION - EMOTION = COMMON SENSE
by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Oct 4, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear you
but I think TO is struggling because he is not the player he once was. Romo is struggling because he is trying to be something he is not
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
It was a poor atempt at sarcasm, sorry for the misunderstanding.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
WRs were open
all through the 4th quarter.
Romo was using a civil ware era musket though.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
He would then gripe
about other people getting the ball.
by lildrummerboy on Oct 4, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Weren't you the same guy...
who was blasting people for talking about Owens and saying “he’s gone get over it”?
Pot meet Kettle
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a quaestion for the ofensive cord...
Why… Oh Why… Are we asking Cricket to block the league leader in sacks one on one?
Just a little stupid?
McGruber!
i noticed that too
I think cricket is much better lead blocking going forward than he is pass blocking going backward
Seriously...
The guy got one sack on flo already…
He leads the league in sacks…
So lets force our fullback into one on one… Absolute Stupidity!
McGruber!
Actually that sack looked like Romo held the ball too long
That’s what I thought at the time.
But you’re right, you can’t expect a FB to sustain a block on a guy like that.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 4, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought the block wasn't too bad if Romo could have stepped back out of the pocket.
I will have to watch it again, but Cricket planted his feet enough to get squared up on the guy. Romo’s spidey senses didn’t tingle fast enough.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought the block was decent
if I’m remembering the right play, it was like romo practically walked into his lineman.
Maybe it will be bizarro year
and they’ll have these horrible games now and play really well down the November/December stretch.
maybe....we can all hope
its ridiculous to give up n this team now though. Its a long season, and a lot usually changes throughout the year.
+100%
I guarantee you the team isn’t giving up. they are going to go back, learn from their mistakes and come out and keep fighting for us, the fans. As a fan, I am far from giving up on them yet.
thats what ive been saying
how many of the superbowl teams were hott in sept and everyone was drooling over.. the 07 pats is the only team i can think of… every other superbowl team these past 8 or so years was just avg or struggled or had alot to overcome.. this team is very capable of turning it around
both loses came from 8-0 teams in the last seconds of each game.. the D is getting better and the rush O is gaining speed too.. not to mention great special teams which spells playoffs to me
What the French?! Toast!
I'd say its much improved over the 2007 version in multiple areas
if romo can be more accurate, I’d say we’re better than we were in 2007, considering how weak our schedule was that year.
Please stop the "super bowl" champs are never hot in September argument.
It’s simply not true.
The 2004 Patriots were 4-0 at this time (went on to win the Super Bowl)
The 2005 Steelers were 3-1 at this time (went on to win the Super Bowl)
The 2006 Colts were 4-0 at this time (went on to win the Super Bowl)
The 2008 Steelers were 3-1 at this time (went on to win the Super Bowl)
That’s 4 out of the last 5 super bowl champs have all started at least 3-1. The Giants in 2007 were the exception not the rule. I’m sorry to say but in most seasons the eventual super bowl champ does not start out looking like the 2009 Cowboys.
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
That's what I have resigned myself to....
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
any other local Cowboys coverage I can listen to online right now?
espn 103.3 is doing national stuff.
Blame Garrett
His play calling is tragicly inept. I’m tired of seeing the same dumb calls weeks after week when the running game is your bread and butter. If Red-G is auditioning for a job he doesn’t get an interview in my opinion.
In T.O.’s defense, Romo was a bad pass from blowing a game for the last 2 years. For all the easy balls T.O. dropped he would have caught the sloppy, too high ducks Romo let loose today.
Mark my words, a new era of futility at QB in Dallas is oh so near.
I'm mad, but not stupid.
Owens hardly ever reached up and grabbed the way too high ducks.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't see the problem
the run game had trouble in the second half and romo wasn’t completing anything, which prevented us from extending drives.
Garrett, fo 80%+ of the time these last 3 weeks, has called a decent game. But what are you gonna do when your qb doesn’t execute?
3 consecutive pass plays in the redzone
when Barber made that drive is not a problem to you? Really?
yeah, if romo had been more accurate in his throws
we wouldn’t be complaining about the play calls.
and btw our running game wasn’t working that well. I love Barber and Choice, but we really miss Felix.
You're Right
So if Romo is off why throw it. Fail. Throw it again. Fail…..Hey, I’ll bet they’ll never expect us to throw it again. FAIL
did you not notice
that we got several tackle for losses?
run and get TFL. fain. run again, fail. right? lol
Remember we were without Felix, Barber was apparently not good to go in the second half, and btw as Raf, our running game was actually not working that well, even in the first half.
+23 and +24
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a huge Garrett fan
but there were open receivers for Romo to hit all through the fourth quarter and he missed them. Then we get best on worst twice at the goaline, and #9 throws at them.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
but there had to be a better option.
Were both TEs out there?
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly thought they were going to throw the same out route to Witten
they executed against the Raiders in preseason because the situations weren’t that different and Witten was lined up on the same side in a similar formation.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Bradshaw?
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Dallas Just Does Not Have The Horses
Flo is too old; Romo is less than we thought; Roy is not a one WR; Hurd is a journeyman; Newman has never lived up to his potential; Spencer is not a great pass rusher and we overpaid for him in the first round; we are thin at linebacker and safety; Hamlin is a liability; Carpenter is worse than a joke. Wade is a poor coach as is evidenced by the disorganized mess that the offense resembles; Garrett as a playcaller is thickheaded as proven by throwing twice inside the three yard line as we saw recently. All is all – the season is over; we need to fire Wade and rebuild from the ground up.
Season ain't close to being over
but I agree there are some things we have learned. First and foremost, Bobby Carpenter should no longer wear the star after this year. He is terrible, and while I was willing to see what he had this year, it is clear it isn’t there. He missed several tackles and more than that, they were head on ones in which he didn’t really slow the guy down. Secondly, I think Hamlin for sure has shown that he isn’t the same Hamlin that played in 2007. He is constantly looking shaky in coverage and I am not even confident in his tackling ability any more. For our FS to look shaky in coverage is not something that warrants his contract. Lastly, I definitely think we need some injection at the WR corps this upcoming offseason. I have been a huge ally of theirs looking at their potential, but I think something is just missing because Denver was more than willing to press them down the stretch, and they just couldn’t make the plays. If I had my wish, we would draft Jacoby Ford out of Clemson because he has the speed (and more importantly the acceleration) we need on this offense (besides Felix Jones).
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
8&8 is about all this team will do this year. Sickening.
Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!
These type of players = 8-8
Sam Hurd
Myles Austin
Roy Williams
Flozell Adams
Marcus Spears
Ken Hamlin
Bradie James
Keith Brooking
Tony Romo
Coached by…..Jason Garret and Wade Phillips
+51
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
What does this mean? What type are you referring to?
Your list includes probowlers and 3rd/4th WRs.
Well...(deep breath)
RW…we gave up a lotta draft picks for what?
The other recievers are inconsistant
Flozell…train wreck, penalties, inconsistant
Spears…took till the 4th game to make an appearence
Hamlin…Cant tackle cant cover, takes bad angles
James…Ok player, a bit overrated
Romo….no need to point out the obvious, but would benefit with coaching and good wr’s
Take Brooking off that list, my bad. He’s been looking good
Not saying these guys are horrible but too many average players make for 8-8 team
Something I never want to see again
Empty Backfield.
i don't understand that at all
that is one formation we should do away with
Agreed completely...
Its just asking for a bad play since our receivers seem unable to get instant separation and our offensive line has a propensity for dumb mistakes.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I still think this has a large part to do with Garret
Yes, Romo played a bad game, but at this point Garret is not putting anyone on this offense in the best position to succeed. Why we stopped running the ball in the 2nd half is beyond me. Maybe MB3 was injured, but you just dont go away from your bread and butter with the way Romo has been playing. Another part with him has been that he’s tried to turn Romo into too much of a pocket passer. Romo showed in 07 that he was at his best when he was out of the pocket and able to make plays. If you look back at all of his INTs this year, they have been mainly when he’s stuck in the pocket. Garret needss to move him around on roll-outs and what not. Another key problem has been Garret’s inabilty to call the correct routes as to what the particular WR’s are good at. RW is great at running slants. Yet, Garret calls 2 slants for Sam Hurd in the final 2 plays of the game, while barely calling any of that kind for Roy in the first 3 quarters. Another problem is the fascination with Crayton and the deep streaks or posts. He’s not made to do that. Have him run underneath stuff where he’s proven he can be a weapon.
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
All of our posts...
pessimism for some
optimism for others
sounds just like the stuff we were talking about after our loss to the Giants
It’s all starting to run together and sound so repetitious
It is strangely therapeutic for me...
this site must be three times as many hits after losses.
I'm not particularly optimistic
but I’m trying to be realistic, which means not giving up on the season after losing close games to 2 undefeated teams, like some see to want to.
I still feel like I'm reading threads
after the loss to the Giants
has any thing changed for good or bad? anything at all?
Yes.
Good: The defense had another great game (7 of the 17 points were the O’s bad).
Bad: We probably won’t lead the league in rushing :(
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Then with the defense improving...
…who can call for Wade’s head on a block, like some bloggers suggest?
That's just lame to do something like that midseason.
This defense would be super lost. They seem to be really getting his schemes.
Jai guru deva, ommm
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
My optimism is fading though my fanhood never will...
This team just clearly has adjustments to make, and until they do, we will see this same inconsistent play on the field that will make you believe one week and break your heart the next.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Well said, 729.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 7:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Miami romps and scores 30+
with a new, 2nd year QB, scrub WRs.
and a free agent OLB from the CFL
getting three sacks 6 tackles and I believe a forced fumble too.
I would take him over Spencer, straight up, right now.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
take it back now Adrock! the Anteater/Badger looking thing in Mojoness' profile pic DEMANDS it
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
It's all very simple.....
GOOD TEAMS WIN FOOTBALL GAMES. And we simply aren’t a very good team. Yes, we show flashes but are inconsistent at best. Romo has got to get more experience under his belt with taking care of the ball, clock management and making smart choices with the ball. While I like JG, his play calling has been awful. Our WR’s need to grow up, Austin, Hurd, etc….
I’ll say it again…..WADE PHILLIPS HAS TO GO! Until we get a REAL coach, none of these stupid plays and penalties will stop.
good teams also lose football games
except the Patriots in 07… oh wait lol….
every team loses some games. whether they are a good team is yet to be determined. their measure will be how they bounce back from a tough loss, learn and adjust, and go forward.
their Defense has looked much better
the offense didn’t give them a chance today, keeping them on the field in this this Denver air, and they broke at the end, but they actually played quite well for most of the game, as they did last week, much better than they did their first 2 games.
I guess I should have asked the question like this....
…What adjustments have the Dallas OFFENSE made since week 2?
we had the #1 rushing game and #3 overall offense
so though we were far from perfect, it isn’t like our offense was totally struggling and we needed to make huge adjustments. Sadly the biggest adjustment we made was losing Felix. I think that affected us today more than anything else, though simple inaccuracy by Romo contributed to our struggles today, which isn’t about making adjustments, it is just about execution.
That's a good point Scott
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 4, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I have defended romo all along, but that is coming to and end after he gave it away
oh yeh I wrote this after Giants game too….
what did MCA and Mike D write after the Giants' game?
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he's just not that good, overhyped...
teams get tape on him, he doesn’t have the coaches to improve his game, some may say not enough talent around him (though I think there’s enough. How are the Shawn Hills and Henne winning games).
The triumph of an uncluttered mind
Tony Romo, 2006. He is like Bobby Clampett after reading Homer Kelley.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll be in VT in three weeks, Bellows Falls, if you are nearby we can watch the game together
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Do you have a Maple tree with a spigot embedded?
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 4, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
But we all know
Romo can play better. He’s done so in the past. WIth Felix back and Romo finding his groove, the Ws will come. Does anyone seriously believe Romo will simply continue to throw over or behind receivers the rest of the season? I definitely don’t. Has he been off? Of course. But we also know he can play better and that’s not just optimism — we’ve seen it before. Felix may be this offense’s mvp if his absence makes this much of a difference.
yup
last year if we don’t lose Felix, I think we make the playoffs. I sure hope he is back after the bye.
Sure but
there is always going to be adversity. We never seem to handle it well.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
rarely well enough
never may be a little absolute
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Lord I hope so...
I have decided though for me to have any long term confidence in this team, we must come out and absolutely hammer the Chiefs.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
i need a win and then good play the following two weeks
against seattle and atlanta.
The Boys will probably have their struggles against them too.
The Chiefs pressured Eli and forced some turnovers early in that game, so we can expect the same next week.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions
We've got a couple of decent QB's
warming our bench in Philly. Maybe Ja-Ray can send us a couple first rounders for Kolb or Vick? Better act quickly, that other dishg-bag of an owner in Washington may beat him to the punch.
I bleed green and I piss silver and blue
We only give away a jillion 1st round picks
for wide receivers
yeah, but can't really say McNabb is much better than Romo either
both of them are among the top 10 or so QBs in the league, both of them have great capabilities but also have flaws.
And Kolb is a big surprise and has promise, but you’re right too early to tell on him.
You just have to judge it for what it is right now
and change your judgment when the ratings change
It is what it is
As of right NOW, Kolb is better
later, maybe that changes
"Hurd calls were right plays, just with wrong guy"
That’s great but you need to call plays that work for the guys who you DO have on the field. Don’t call a trademark Roy play when he’s out.
McVick7?
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 4, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
You think Vick makes better decisions than Romo?
Plus, he’s almost 30, so that back-breaking speed won’t be there for more than a couple more years.
He's on the Eagles.
They can’t just give him a jersey and say help us out.
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope not and I highly doubt it
Turnover Tony - BIG IN NAME, NO BIG GAME.
Deke - I thought Romo had regressed last year as a quarterback, Poor Mechaniics,Poor Footwork,Poor decsions, Poor Throws. His game and numbers just don't lie. Tony has to get it in his head, that he has to take better care of the football and make better decisions on the field if he wants to be an elite Quarterback. He has tools, he just has to put it all together on a consistant basis.
Aikman on Romo - When the games are close, you have to be smart with the football and that has been a problem with Tony.
JJT - by the numbers - In Romo's first 23 games as a starter, 17-6 with 50 touchdown passes, 24 interceptions and a 101.7 passer rating. The Cowboys were 12-1 and en route to earning the NFC's top playoff seed.
Since then, Romo is 11-9 as a starter with 34 touchdowns, 23 interceptions and a 85.0 passer rating.
The guy from the first 23 starts can lead the Cowboys to a championship; the guy from the last 20 starts can't.
Jimmy Johnson on Romo - KISS as in "Keep It Simple Sir: (If Romo keeps turning the ball over like he did against the Giants, KISS might stand for, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
well shame on us for thinking things would be different this year....
this non-playoff team was going to improve by subtraction, letting our #1 playmaker go and not even attempting to get some speed at WR position…and coddling this mental midget at the QB position
Just out of curiousity...
What is your quick solution to the QB situation?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
i still think that Romo is best option at QB right now
but we need to run more and get Bennett and Witten more involved….and then we def need to draft a QB (high) in offseason
Pittsburgh dismantling the Chargers
28-0
Turnover Tony - BIG IN NAME, NO BIG GAME.
Deke - I thought Romo had regressed last year as a quarterback, Poor Mechaniics,Poor Footwork,Poor decsions, Poor Throws. His game and numbers just don't lie. Tony has to get it in his head, that he has to take better care of the football and make better decisions on the field if he wants to be an elite Quarterback. He has tools, he just has to put it all together on a consistant basis.
Aikman on Romo - When the games are close, you have to be smart with the football and that has been a problem with Tony.
JJT - by the numbers - In Romo's first 23 games as a starter, 17-6 with 50 touchdown passes, 24 interceptions and a 101.7 passer rating. The Cowboys were 12-1 and en route to earning the NFC's top playoff seed.
Since then, Romo is 11-9 as a starter with 34 touchdowns, 23 interceptions and a 85.0 passer rating.
The guy from the first 23 starts can lead the Cowboys to a championship; the guy from the last 20 starts can't.
Jimmy Johnson on Romo - KISS as in "Keep It Simple Sir: (If Romo keeps turning the ball over like he did against the Giants, KISS might stand for, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
I tip my hat to Mike Nolan with a great gameplan
and the Denver defense executed it very well. Raf is correct, teams can play us differently without Felix, we miss him tremendously.
That being said, it’s early and we still have a chance to win 10 or 11 games.
We still have the same record as the world champs.
In Romo we Trust
and then he'll rebound back to the garbage pile
he always does.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
I’ll give it to you, at least you aren’t backing down.
Good stuff.
I’m not through with him yet, but there is something wrong, he’s not playing like in 2007 or even 2008 for that matter.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
great
So that means he’ll to rebound every other week
by lildrummerboy on Oct 4, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
but we aren't champs, we didn't even make the playoffs
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
They are a proven good team. Being 2-2 isn't big cause for concern.
It is for a team that is going to need lots of things go right to make the playoffs.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Really
they are about what – 3-5 in their last 8?
That kind of sucks
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
after that loss, wish I was
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 4, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Romo will be out of the league before Peyton retires
i am sure of that…maybe he finds a bench somewhere and becomes the Vince Evans of the next decade
I didn't see much evidence
of “very goodness” today.
Happy feet, holding the ball, wild throws.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That isn' the standard
I doubt Parcells would use that quote with a QB who takes every second week off,
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
He shot a 69
from the tips at Preston Trail this summer playing with Lee Trevino
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
You trying to make a run...
at 5blings draft day record of who can bitch the most in a 10 minute period?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess its like how you say Romo=Brady
because they both fumbled today.
I like Pittsburghs body of work much better,
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
We also have the same record as Washington
and our 2 victories are against JV teams.
did you
just agree with yourself? You can’t do that to support a point you make!
Denver is not a good team.
They will probably win the hapless AFC West. But they aren’t good.
If you are what you are...
and Denver is 4-0, than what are they?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
They almost lost to Dallas at home
that tells you how good they are.
Just kidding
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
and the wins came against teams whose record is what?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Getting Felix Back Will Help
but if anyone thinks that will fix all of our offensive woes they are sadly mistaken,
Thinking outside the box here, but if receivers are always runnning the "wrong" routes, is it at least possible that Romo is throwing to the wrong places? Meaning, Romo does not know what the F%^k he is doing?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
some of the time yes
some of the time no.
The play to austin today seemed like it was definitely austin’s fault.
Probably somewhere in the middle...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Our receivers are plenty tall
The problem is they are slow, can’t run routes, and have bad hands.
Roy seems to have great hands
which is handy because he couldn’t get separation from me pushing my lawnmower
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Get the Forks Out; this team is done.
We need a GM; then we need a coach; then new coordinators; then a legitimate competitor for Romo; then we need to go back to the 4-3 defense. We need a left tackle that is not in a wheel chair. That is just for starters; then we need a three year plan where we plan on losing while a new franchise is built from the ground up. This group is just fucking incompetent from head to toe.
Yeah, we should probably have Jerry
move the team to Iowa too. That will help.
Speaking of Jerry
His record as a GM is the most important problem; we are now a decade and a half into the worst Cowboy personnel depression in its history. Shit, they started as a new franchise and had a championship contender in six years; Jerry has been a bust since the Hershel heist ran it course. This team won’t make the playoffs. Mark it down.
DO NOT TALK SMACK ABOUT SUPER GENIUS GM JERRY JONES!!! HE TRADED UP FOR QUINCY CARTER!!! HE PICKED SHANTE CARVER!!!! HE TRADED BACK INTO THE FIRST ROUND FOR ANTHONY SPENCER!!!! HE IS BRILLIANT!!!!
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
MY BAD
Jerry has done a lot for this team; look at his gamble on Pacman and Tank. What genius.
Except that when PacMan went PacMan
Jerry sold the farm for Biscuit 2.0 to try to distract the slackjawed fans.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty mad right now/dissapointed...
but it’s only FOUR games.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's why I'm overreacting
2-2 isn’t horrible. It isn’t the end of the world. EXCEPT…
Look at the schedule. We will be lucky to win 2 of the last 5 games. Losing now means we have to get an upset then. And you can count on NY and Philly to go undefeated against the AFC West and NFC South.
And who will be injured between now and then?
Too early to call it, but I agree with your point on losing games early being a cause of regret later.
how many times do I have to tell you
I wouldn’t trade Romo for anyone, what about that don’t you understand?
In Romo we Trust
What we don't understand is why you would not trade Romo for any QB in the NFL?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I love the way makes something out of nothing
like he did on 4th and 3 to Hurd. He doesn’t make that play, there is no goal line decisions to discuss, at least he gave the team a chance and really thats all you can ask for.
In Romo we Trust
He's totally one step forward and two steps back
He set up the play out of nothing.
And then throws the end zone passes to guys covered by CHAMP BAILEY.
Something is wrong here.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
That was incredibly stupid
From Garrett.
And of course the one INT Romo throws had to be when he fired one to…..Champ Bailey.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
Terry, defend Romo on the merits for his performace tonight. Use bullet points so those of us who are slower than you can understand
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Stop riding him like he is then
You cannot deny he had a bad game and exacerbated Dallas’ problems when it should’ve been a blowout.
Defense can’t hold on forever when Romo is overthrowing/underthrowing his targets.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
never said he didn't have a bad game
but I’m not going to blame him for the loss because teams win and lose as a team.
I’m not about throwing individual players under the bus for losses like so many of you are.
In Romo we Trust
they can for 55 minutes
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
i know Terry has a boner for Romo, but jeez we should cut the guy some
slack don’t ya’ll think? after all, if his worst crime is unwavering devotion to our team’s current starting QB, a lot of people would call THAT being the definition of a true fan…..If Romo absolutely, completely stinks it up for another full season or so, and we replace him with the next Joe Montana, who then brings us multiple SB championships, and Terry is STILL yelling to bring in Romo, THAT’S when we should ride him (in my opinion)
Right now, he’s doing nothing more than supporting….ok, idolizing…our current QB – i dont’ have a problem with that – keep doin’ what you been doing Terry : )
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
No, a true fan can see when his team has problems
Those Saints fans who put paper bags over their heads were true fans. The giants fans who burned their season tickets in the parking lot of Giants Stadium in the mid 70s were true fans. When your team sucks, you have to call it
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I personally happen to agree with you. I ALSO believe that when your team
sucks, you have to call it like it is. What I disagree with though, is the idea that it is somehow our job and our duty to FORCE Terry to ‘call it’ as well.
We all know where Terry stands on Romo. I’m just saying sometimes I think we pile on and it seems a bit much – again – just my opinion.
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont know....
i think part of me will feel better when terry admits that romo sucks….that’s all i got right now
it's all good man - everybody here wants the Cowboys to do
well, so that’s something we can all agree on 100%….how we get there from here…i guess that’s another story…i don’t have the answers, but i know that BS we saw out there today is definitely not gonna’ cut it
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
if we are "lucky" to win 2 of the last 5 games...
then we don’t deserve to make the playoffs anyway.
Theres still a long way to go. This team sure as heck has not hit its stride yet.
Twenty Five Percent of the Season is Not Nothing
Trends are there; poor execution; poor game planning; players like Flo that are too old and while I hear love for Brookings to take one example – I saw him pushed around like a rag doll at a key moment; just like TNewman that can’t make the key play; or any number of other first round picks like Barbie or Spencer — and Romo has regressed; he is not a champion and there is no evidence he has the fire in the gut necessary to take this team anywhere.
Trends change. That's why they're called trends.
There’s no reason the Boys can’t improve on this performance and make the playoffs this year. They might not, but you have to admit it’s awfully early to say this team won’t make the playoffs. It’s not like we’re getting blown away in every game. Watch the Rams play. They won’t make the playoffs.
There is no reason they cannot, except the historical record of this team indicates nothing of the kind
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
The historical record
also doesn’t suggest a 2-2 record. How much you bettin on it?
Yes, that was great.
Signs of life on the defense can help this team down the stretch.
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions
By that logic
we should have dominated last December right based off our first few games?
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta love the "Romo is not a champion" quote...
Too bad I can say the same thing about almost all the quarterbacks in the NFL.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, but the problem is
JERRUH will be the one who hires/controls the GM. We’re going to become the Raiders!
by JerryPleaseResign on Oct 4, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahahaha...
No way that happens. You can pile on Jerry all you want, but I don’t see us ever dipping quite to that level in the near future.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
It's only week (insert number here)
When the team plays this bad in week 10, will people say “it’s only week 10. Be positive.”?
I like your attempt at being snark...
but there is a difference of being 2-2 at week 4, and being 5-5 at week 10.
I’m not being positive just not negative.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 4, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, we're not being negative
just venting and trying to pinpoint what exactly is the problem with this team.
We’ll cheer for them hard next week and hope things have been modified so we improve.
Getting ones that can run routes might.
And having the QB not overthrow or underthrow when they’re open could help too.
Well
Romo’s biggest problem today was not his decision-making, it was his ACCURACY. (The one pick appeared to have been a bad route by Austin).
Unless he’s hurt, this is just some sort of mental slump I would guess. Maybe he’s trying too hard to aim the ball. Maybe he’s better when he says “f*ck it, I’m going deep” gunslinger style.
I liked Romo’s start today, but looking back, it was probably way too dink-and-dunk to get Romo into a groove.
I see no reason why Romo’s accuracy would suddenly disappear, barring injury, that’s all.
he did hold the ball too long
especially on the fumble, you can’t do that so close to your own goal line especially.
but yeah, the bigger problem today was his execution and accuracy, not the mental aspects, although I have to admit he just didn’t appear confident and perhaps his inaccuracy was a result of the mental aspect, lack of confidence, not being in the groove, but that’s different than decision making. even the pick he threw was probably Austin’s fault, just like Delhomme’s 2nd pick was Steve Smith’s fault.
yea thats really confused me
I said in the offseason that the biggest worry going into the season was Romo’s poor accuracy at the end of 2008, but i saw no reason that that would continue.
Something else that drove me crazy during the game.
Vonnie Holliday getting a sack? What is he, 40 years old?
You cannot be serious? Do you really think this sad sack of a team is the equivalent of the best team to ever walk on an NFL field?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
If we were a college team
we would travel to lots of homecomings
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 4, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
no
but the point is you can start off 2-2 and still end up having a good season
there’s plenty to criticize and be worried about, but that’s different from saying the season is over which some “fans” are doing lol
No the funeral will be on November 8 in Philly
when get embarrassed by the Eagles on national t.v.. JK but we will know after that game if this team is any good or not.
yeah but they are Super Bowl CHamps, and the last time Dallas was Super Bowl champs, my hair was not grey and my waist line was 34 inches
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
how many of you noticed
romo’s facial expressions today when under pressure. To me, he didn’t look frazzled at all. No silver-dollar eyes or anything. It just makes me wonder about his pocket awareness. I know no QB’s have eyes in the back of their head—but some of them would make you swear they do. Romo seems not to know when the blitz is on except when it’s right in front of him.
i was thinking the same thing - it seemed that was always one of his biggest up-sides...like
a cat with 9 lives, he could always feel the pressure (even coming from behind), and somehow knew right when to dart away or side step and at least try to get out of the pocket….that 1 or 2 sacks tonight, looked like he had no clue what was coming
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
well the one time that he did scramble he hit Hurd for the long gain at the end of the 4th Q
which makes me wonder why he has the happy feet dancing around in the pcoket taking sacks….why doesn’t he get back to doing what made him successful in the first place?? improvisation….you can’t gameplan a defence for that…
I agree
and that’s what made me wonder what’s up tonight? Is it that he’s been an improv QB his whole life and now they’ve got him trying to play like Aikman or Bledsoe and he just doesn’t have experience feeling the blitz he can’t see?
Today he was definitely off...
Even as a Romo-supporter you could see it. Honestly, I don’t why that was the case, but let’s just hope it gets fixed by Sunday.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely off...
and what’s with him throwing little 1-2 yarders when he can run for 3-4 yards? Weird decision making, imo.
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions
All Preseason Team
Hurd, Austin, Bennett.
Yo Demarcus this is a contract yr. you should give Albert Haynesworthless a call.
Guess you didn't watch the game because
I thought D-Ware played quite well considering that the Broncos have two solid receivers and run a west-coast offense that makes it difficult to get sacks. He also had a forced fumble and made some rushes that lead to other guys getting sacks.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 4, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
unrealize potential
i said it a after the loss to the Giants.. we are a team with talent, talent that has not realized their potential… Romo does NOT have to be Peyton Manning, however he is better than he is playing.. and unrealized potential in a team sport is the fault of the coach and the coacing staff…
i say right now that Wade and company (including Garrett) have to go… bring in someone now and them and the team acclimate to each other for the rest of this year and we go into next year with some knowledge of each other.. if we wait until the after the season to fire Wade, then a few more weeks to hire someone new, we are that far behind and will be playing the first half of next season just ‘getting to know’ the new guys and staff…
of course i don’t think it will happen, we will win enough here and there to keep Wade on until the end of the season…
this is WAY TOO bad, with this talent (and again i am not saying Romo is Peyton Manning esque) but he can be good enough, with our running game, and potential on Defense, that this teams ‘window’ with a good coach (Shannahan, Cowher, Holmgren, etc…) would be or would have been open for 5 years or so……..
very frustrating
We need to stop telling lying to ourselves about the level of talent on this team. We have an undrafted FA QB and he’s been playing like an undrafted FA for a while now. We have no depth on the OL our receivers couldn’t make a lot of teams in the league right now. The majority of our draft picks for the last decade have been busts or marginal at best.
Yeah, I don't get why peope keep saying we are the most talented team in the league
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
So they can hate on us when we don't succeed.
Those same people also trash us for not having any playmakers…which way is it?
Beware D-Ware
Hate to sound like a broken record but......
This is an average team, with out leadership. Many of the experts out there say it’s a lack of locker room leadership, but i dissagree. Leadership doesn’t need to come from the qb or the MLB or any player. It comes from the head coach. Wade has a history of teams that play sloppy and not up to there potential. The only good thing about this wasted season, is that a plethera of great head coaches are available next year.
Other thoughts, can we please stop calling Newman a probowl cornerback? burned yet again in a critical situation. You HAVE to make that play, no excuse. I’m not saying bench him or anything, but he is just an average starting cornerback.
Roy Williams is an excellent #2 WR and so is Patrick Crayton, if you get my drift.
Miles Austin doesn’t have potiential anymore, he’s been on this team to long. And if he is going to screw up routes like that, why don’t we call up ogletree and see if he can run routes properly.
This defense about two impact probowl players from being a really good defense. The supporting cast seems to be there, but they’re obviously missing something.
I think we can safely call Anthony Spencer a bust at this point, and i think B. Carpenter is allergic to tackling.
But atleast we don’t really really suck, this team isn’t that far away from being good, they just aren’t good now. and remember denver won 2 superbowls with shanahan after wade got fired. how sweet would a superbowl with dallas in dallas be huh?
and
Marshall is a top 5 WR or so. When there’s a great throw, usually the WR (who is 5 inches taller) wins. That’s why most QB’s complete more than 50% of their passes.
Newman played fine. Half an inch away from making a big play on that ball. What more do you want from him?
Wade was fine; the D was pretty good.
i saw some kind of impromptu locker room interview on ESPN news, but caught it at the
last few seconds….they had asked Romo about throwing the slant at the end twice in a row….to a guy Bailey was guarding, and he said something along the lines of it’s a “split second decision”, and sometimes u don’t always make the right one…etc etc…. but i missed most of the questions they asked him
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Oct 4, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Analysis at 2-2
This team will NOT make the playoffs. Here’s why:
This team has a core of players with potential. The problem is they aren’t playing to that potential. Romo is an inconsistent gunslinger. He makes great plays and then gives us all headaches with interceptions and fumbles. He’s been very erratic throwing the ball and you can’t do that and win games. The strength of the offense is NOT passing. When you see Felix Jones, Choice and Barber ripping long runs and having one of the best run attacks in the league, THAT is what JG should be basing his offense on. Our receivers are young and still learning. Miles Austin is the home run play and until he is consistent with running plays over the middle and running precise routes, he will continue to be JUST a specialty player. Hurd is a great possession receiver but is not on the field enough. Roy Williams, after four games, has proven NOT to be a #1 WR. At best, he’s a utility player. The Cowboys see his tall frame and great hands as Michael Irvin but he AIN"T Michael Irvin. He doesn’t have the speed of a number one and he simply doesn’t have the mentality of a number one receiver.
Our defense is good but not consistent enough to shut down opposing offenses for 60 minutes. Newman pretends to be a great corner but he’s not consistent enough to do it game in and game out. Jenkins is showing some good stuff and perhaps with a little more time he can be a great corner. We don’t have a dominating LB to cover the middle and stuff the run. Brooking is good but not an intimidator. Bradie James is good too but inconsistent in coverage. And tell me why we have a DT in pass coverage?? That makes NO sense whatsoever. Seeing Anthony Spencer out in coverage made my jaw drop.
Wade Philips and Jason Garrett are being schooled each week. Remember last year when the Ravens said they knew what was coming before the snap of the ball? Has anything really changed?
Hurd is a great possession receiver but is not on the field enough
what? that means he’s slow, right? why have yet another inept, unqualified, slow, inconsistent WR on the field? Hurd sucks. Crayton sucks. Austin sucks.
he’s not on the field enough for what? drops? mistakes? missed assignments? 3 yard grabs and then not shaking the first tackler?
Not to nit pick but Spencer is an OLB in a 3-4 defense
covering rb is his part of his job discription, just like newman, if your in position, you HAVE to atleast knock the pass down, not good enough to be in position, Its only good coverage if you make the play, that’s part of the reason he is a bust and JAG
pardon me but I thought he was brought here to put qb's on their backside?
If he’s an OLB, then so be it but his MAIN job as I understood it was to kill qb’s. Isn’t that why Greg Ellis was let go? Spencer was supposed to take up the slack of letting Ellis go and compliment Ware from the other side. You use players to their strength and he ain’t no coverage guy.
That's how the 3-4 is played. spencer and ware won't be rushing the qb on everyplay
and you’d obviously rather have ware rushing more of the time. But Spencer is a bust, he showed potiential, but he’s been starting to long for the pontential label. A few players aren’t going to be with this team next year, and he might be one of them. Austin needs to go as well. He is fast, but doesn’t run good routes (apparently) and doesn’t get open enough.
Hurd could be more consistent if he had more playing time.
He has great hands just not great speed. He’s a great 3rd down WR just underutilized.
what?
really? “great” hands? Thats’ why he’s been on the bench for 4 years? He can’t unseat patrick f’ing crayton, yet there’s something ‘great’ about him? He’s just a warm body in cleats.
This, “Hurd could be more consistent if he had more playing time. He has great hands just not great speed. He’s a great 3rd down WR just underutilized” also describes the Cowboys’ 3rd string TE.
Hurd is one of those "catch the ball if it's near him" type of receivers.
Unfortunately he was also playing opposite future hall of famer CB Champ Bailey and that made a difference. Look, I know we’re all upset at the loss but Hurd is a good receiver. Crayton has yet to prove he’s a number two since the drop in the ’07 playoff game.
The word here is “consistency”. Until the ’Boys play more consistent ball on both sides, the season is gonna resemble a pendulum swinging back and forth.
i don't see the #2 reciever as a problem, the problem is that there is no number one
I don’t really blame garrett or even wade for that, it’s just so happened that your #1 WR hit the wall. In my mind, TO was a problem because his production dropped and was in a steep decline due to his age. His production in Buffalo shouldn’t surprise anyone, he is just getting old. Roy Williams was not aquired to be the #1, he was aquired to complement TO. WR talent isn’t the problem, it’s sloppy play. You can’t always win games by scoring 30 points. At some point the defense has to stop someone in th fourth quarter…… and giving up 10 points in the final six minutes will lose you a lot of games.
I agree about sloppy play
I’ve been preaching since game one that we need a “championship defense”. A great defense will always compliment an offense and even make it better. The only intimidator we have on D is Ware and he’s been silent. Both our run defense and secondary are porous and the tackling is simply awful. Wade is SUPPOSED to be a defensive guru…..go figure.
The key to our passing game is Jason Witten. He is the strength and the ONLY consistent offensive player we have. That needs to change if we want to win games.
Unfortunately i'm not surprised at all
If you look a wade phillips history, his teams play sloppy and underachieve. but when he is a coordinator only, they play just the opposite….. wierd
Another knock against JG....
What the hell happened to Barber in the second half? His bulldozer drive into the end zone for the touchdown was proof he showed up to play. Then he disappeared. He wasn’t hurt. That was a big mistake. Could have used Barber to beat down their defense and soften up the middle. That would have opened up everything…..
U know the more gloom
and doom i hear the more i feel we might have a shot, strange eh? I see we have holes but they might be fixable. Our WRs aren’t getting much separation, that might be the one thing we can’t fix, Romo hasn’t been horrible but he is “off”, Felix will be back and that will help alot. Barber will get back to 100%, also a boost, seems our defense is playing better, hopefully our young guys get better and once the monkey gets off both Ware and Spencer’s back I can see them getting more sacks in bunches as the season progresses, it might not be this year but we might be able to get it done w/ most of this Core.
"We play to win the game" - Herm Edwards
by nicholas.rodriguez on Oct 4, 2009 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
I have to disagree
Romo missed a few throws, but for the most part the WR weren’t getting open, they played there saftey’s back and the running game didn’t make up for it. and he drove down the field when it counted with out his #1 or 2 RB and with out roy williams. It’s just hard to make up for 10 points given up in the last 10 minutes. And the INT wasn’t on Romo, it was on Austin.
once the monkey gets off both Ware and Spencer’s back
That’s a metaphor. In your metaphor, what does the monkey represent?
This isn’t a story, btw. It’s a real life scenario where Ware is being targeted, and rendered totally ineffective. And in tandem to that, Spencer is showing he’s nothing. Ware is getting doubled and tripled, and Spencer can’t do ANYTHING. I don’t know what you mean by monkey’s on their backs. Unless the monkey is that Spencer is no good at football, and one sunday he wakes up and is good at it.
Romo couldn't get it there....
his throws were either too high or behind his rec’s all day. The one to RW in which he was hurt was way high..but that also comes from being sacked 4 times…….
Yeah?
So if a QB gets sacked 3x, he should make the throws. but if it’s 4x, he can’t be expected to play any longer?
NO....what I meant was if you are constatnly looking up at the DT that just put you on your ass
you’re not going to be making many accurate throws…..
Shanahan, he has pull with jerry as they are reported to be BFFs. and shanahan is a
micromanager, more Jimmy Johnson than barry switzer. He isn’t afraid to play the better player and will command respect in the locker room. He probably just needed a change of pace. Sometimes you lose perspective when you stay in one place too long.
I just can’t see Cowher coming here. Don’t really want him with out dick lebeau.
I would say shanahan but he wasn't very good in denver
the problems plagueing them aren’t too much different than the ones plagueing us. He would wnt total control, and he did little with that total control. Cutler had bad turnover problems on denver…
I think this is a totally ridculous topic to discuss in week 4, but if things keep heading down that path, I think gruden would be a good answer.
Shanahan had his offense cranking the whole time
the problem was that he didn’t draft very well on defense. I feel our scouting department can help in that area if a good defensive coordinator is brought in.
Hey, I hear Wade Phillips will be available…… oh ……… right
this isn't since week 4
It’s since the playoff loss to the Giants when WP SHOULD have been fired. For him to still be here is insanity. Look at his record. His teams ALWAYS fade in the end….can’t win the big games. His teams do well in the regular season but in the playoffs…AWFUL! Get rid of WP already!
It’s not a ridiculous topic becuz a change should have been made after the beat down in philly. This is about more than the past 4 weeks this is a trend of mediocre play that has continued since the beginning of last season.
it's not rediculous, a playoff doesn't add up for this team, look at the numbers dude.
wild card contenders are probably the eagles, atlanta, chicago, greenbay, arizona. I can’t see them beating out four of those teams. and even if they do, i don’t see them getting out of the first round. Look, for what ever reason, Wade wasn’t fired after last years disaster. It was a big mistake not to change last year. It is what it is. Despite the reports of a “tougher” camp, this team plays stupid and sloppy, just like last year. That goes to the head coach. And if this team is playing sloppy after four games, why do you think they will all of the sudden play better? The only hope some of us fans have is next year, with a better coach and better talent. Get used to it. It’ll probably die down after next week when the train wreck named KC comes to town, then there’s a bye.
did he
win a super bowl with tampa freaking bay? who cares who likes him?
or
he could be very happy with MNF. He’s extremely good at it, and he probably makes redonkulous change.
I am losing it
whatever it was that made me a fan of the Cowboys is slipping away.
They are too overexposed…
the internet/media/blogs hype up a whole heap of NOTHING…
the coaches seem brainy but weak, like they can’t see the forest for the trees, or they can fit the engine for the ship but can’t steer it…
I think Romo is great entertainment and I like him, but he’s a loser…
I think the team may actually be awful. Especially at WR, DB, Spencer, and DE. It will take years, and years, and years to remedy this.
But more than all of this… I don’t really like any of the guys on the team. What is the defining term to describe this team’s “character,” if you think that’s possible? Underacheiving? Soft? Lazy? Undisciplined? Stupid?
Barber and Choice are players than can get your juices flowing to watch football, but who else? Scandrick and Jenkins are interesting because of their age and big play potential. If Felix Jones, gasp, actually plays, he’s interesting.
At least with Detroit
they meet expectations.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 5, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Ware, Witten, Ratliff...
you don’t like any of those guys?
money comment
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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Adios
Can’t say I’m sad to see you go.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 6, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey...we've ALL been there...
I’ve been watching this team since the ’70’s…was there for the ‘78 Super Bowl win, watched the heartbreak of “The Catch” in ’82, suffered through the mediocre teams of the ’80s and swore I’d never watch this team again after ’86 and then along comes the Triplets and the world is great again….3 Super Bowls in four years….and here were are now…trying to get back again with less talent.
This team can and will frustrate the hell out of ya and then you have those days when the legends play like legends and they amaze us with their great talent for winning games and championships. We love ’em and we hate ’em….all at the same time.
plain and simple
we have a very dumb team
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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brooking made a comment
i read tonite somewhere, where he said," guys need to be desperate to win on Wed,thurs, and friday.Not just sunday." Could that be a shot at some peoples work ethic?
"Let me tell you sumthin' son ! an ass whippin' hurts no matter what kinda shape your in ! " Stone Cold Steve Austin
i sure as hell hope so
because Brooking is one of the few smart guys on this team
i get so tired of the stupidity on this squad.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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DNM columnist Moore on WP commenting about Barber in 2nd half
" A Cowboys team that rushed for more than 200 yards in consecutive games finished with just 74 yards on the ground. A healthy Marion Barber had only one carry for two yards in the second half, prompting Phillips to say he didn’t know why Barber didn’t touch the ball more. "
That’s your HEAD COACH saying that!
aw shucks.
talk about advertising your cluelessness.
what a joke.
the epitome of stupidity.
Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
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maybe so
but don’t you think your HEAD COACH should have a clue about the health of your starting RB??
Unfortunately
The Cowboys are in Dallas, not in theory.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 5, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd figure that to be
more of Garrett’s fault though. Wade calls the defensive plays, and most big plays they gave up were lack of execution, i.e. Spencer’s failed INT. Our offensive troubles usually and should fall on Garrett. It’s not always Wade’s fault, but I know people like to blame him and Jerry for everything.
Big Picture
I’ve been a Cowboy fan for a long time. Since 1977 here. Many of you have been fans for longer than that. Many more recently. Enough said.
I live and die by this team. Not literally, of course. But I feel the same stuff — jinxes, waiting for Romo now to not make a mistake instead of anticipating a great play. I’ve second guessed Jerry many times. I’ve pointed my fingers at individual players, time and again. Coaches, too.
Lately, I’ve been torn up — is it Romo? Our receivers? Our DBs? Our play calling?
Here’s where I’m at now.
Players are the raw talent. They are the “actors.” You can have the greatest actors in the world — think Nicholas Cage, Meryl Streep, whatever — but without a good script (Jason Garrett and, on the D side, Wade) and without good directing (Wade) and without a good producer (JJ), the film is never gonna be a hit.
The players are the pieces. The rest is choreography. When and how do we use them, in order to best suit their skills and situational strengths? Choreography is the balance. When and where, and to what degree? Runs vs. passes? 8 in the box vs. 7? It gets infinitely more complex.
My conclusion? I think we have the raw talent — some more raw than others. At the end of the day, if there is fault. . . .then the fault lies with the director and producer.
Is Romo or anyone else perfect? No. Course not. But I just can’t help but think that with more
discipline (fewer dumb penalties, more grit and mental toughness and faith)
with more
creative play calling (and no, it doesn’t even have to be creative — just please don’t throw twice into the EZ against Denver, as you did against NYG, with the same result, when you could have fairly easily run it in)
with more
accountability. Follow the chain of command, ok? supposed team leaders (romo, ware, williams) can’t call out teammates, cause they don’t have the credibility to do so, based on performance — coaches like cupcake and jg can’t call out the players who aren’t stepping up, because those coaches have their own faults — JJ can (cause he owns the team), but won’t, because he’s invested too much in Romo, Williams, etc.
At the end of the day, it is JJ’s call. There is a Responsibility Disruption in Dallas. Just as on this board, there is nobody willing to step up and say, “I am the Problem.”
That is why we (as fans) and they (as a team) keep flitting from issue to issue, thinking that — if we solve it — all will be well. Get Felix back, we’re fine. Bench Romo, we’re fine. Get Ogletree back, we’re golden. Fire Carpenter. TNew sucks. OL is old.
Nope. None of it, in isolation.
It’s a balance. It’s a choreography.
Which tells me, it’s not the talent — it’s the coaching.
Coaching, directing, producing, utliizing, motivation, extracting the best.
That is what is not happening.
It’s time to groom a new coach and new OC, even if it means this year is a waste. Find Romo’s QB coach soulmate, if need be. If not, bring in Garcia or someone to push him and compete. Lose WP — he has “loser” written all over his face, on every down. And RHG has devolved into a high school coach.
There’s talent here — some more than others. But at the end of the day, it’s the directors.
Close your eyes. Don’t you think another coach could get more from this talent than WP and JG?
I don't think another coach can get
much more from 4 undrafted WR’s and an undrafted QB who doesn’t value taking care of the ball. .
I think you over rate the talent on this team like the owner.
You might have 1 undrafted WR. Not 4. How many undrafted QB’s are starting in this league.
What is Sam Hurd. or Miles Austin resume at Back Yard University.
So when Sam goes against Champ I have a pretty good idea who’s going to win that match up.
These are positions which normally are filled by high draft picks. 1-3 round.
Well Jerry hasn’t drafted a QB in how long. When was the last time he drafted a WR high.
But he drafts a situational RB that most say could not stand the pounding of the NFL at the same time he’s paying Barber. Who trades two starters for a 4th round pick to the Dolphins which has forced you to play pay the old guy at MLB.
Greg Ellis or Spencer. I remember seeing on this board messages that stated good riddance to Ellis. How’s that working out. DeMarcus Ware. Is he out there.
It’s not the coach. It’s the owner and he’s not going anywhere.
Do you see 1 future superstar at WR behind Roy. Miles Austin/Sam Hurd have been in the league for years. Patrick Crayton is 30. No superstars here.
Funny how the Giants went from needing a WR to wondering which one of there young HIGH DRAFT picks will be a superstar.. They look like they might have 3
legit WR’s.
Who wants to tell me our WR are better than the Giants now.
I repeat. The 2008 Draft will haunt us for years. To me that was the make it or break us draft and Jerry blew it..
For every Peyton Manning
there’s a Ryan Leaf. It takes three years to accurately judge how a draft will go, so half year doesn’t really measure, especially 4 games into the season.
Anyways, I see what you mean though. Ellis was better than the Cowboys thought, and I guess they just didn’t want the headache that came with him. I’m happy with our runningbacks, but i’m not happy with our receivers so far. It’d be nice to have that one for sure superstar that you know can beat you if you don’t double him, much like T.O. was to us the first two years he was here.
Romo's accuracy
is atrocious. What happened to the guy who could complete 65-67% of his passes. He’s gotta get that fixed. This team is mediocre at best. What a long season it’s been and it’s only the first quarter… ugh
I think near the end of the game, he was trying to guide passes into a window
obviously they were high and one caused Roy Williams to be broken in half.
Denver dropping 7 in coverage didn’t help his case. Neither did the fact that the WRs couldn’t create any separation. The OL did him no favors, nor did the playcalling.
Many QBs look unsettled when they’ve been pressured and beaten to death most of the game.
This game isn’t on Romo, and it’s not on the runners. It sits squarely on the shoulders of poor pass protection, the playcaller, and the lack of receiving talent.
I'm just disappointed.
So disappointed. We’re better than this, but knowing it and showing it are two different things. Blah.
Rafael....
I would be little bit more specific with the title of your article….“Sliping through Newman’s fingers…..again”….
More like Spencers.
He played horrible this game. Every big play I saw, i’d always hear Aikman “and there’s spencer with a close interception, but instead it’s a touchdown”.
Shaking head
Total TNew hater
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 6, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
Jai guru deva, ommm
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Bob Sturm brought up a good point on his Twitter feed this morning:
“Final drive: undrafted QB, 2 undrafted WRs, and a 7th round WR. Way to go, GM. But we do have this sweet stadium, right?”
d played it's best game so far
our O played its worst…
what’s up with only 7 runs in the second half?
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
0 points in the last three quarters.
sigh
Jai guru deva, ommm
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
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