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After 29 years as a fan...I'm done (UPDATE!... "I'd like to revise and extend my remarks")



I know a lot of fans feel like yesterday's loss was a stomach punch. For me, it wasn't. All of the elements of the game (particularly Romo's performance) were predictable. In fact, last week I predicted on these forums that we'd lose a close, low-scoring game in which our offensive line was dominated and Romo was erratic. The sheer inevitability of the loss, and the lack of hope for improvement, are why I'm done. A few more observations:

Star-divide

1) Romo has regressed. It might be like the hand injuries that derailed Kurt Warner's career, but Romo can add "inaccurate" to his other list of woes. He used to combine bonehead plays with high accuracy and big plays. But since he returned from the broken hand last year, he's a sub-60% passer.

2) The three most important people in the organization: GM Jerry, HC Wade, QB Tony are all below NFL average. Jerry and Wade are near the very bottom (no other NFL team would hire them for their positions were they on the open market), and Tony has slipped into the bottom half. They all seem like tremendously nice people, and they're trying hard. They just ain't that good. We're still better than the Redskins, though!

3) I can watch a 5-11 team that has upside. I can't watch an 8-8 team whom the GM thinks has 12-4 talent. I can't hear the GM rationalize a loss like this as being about how good the Broncos are. I can't hear him tell me how TO's production will be replaced by Miles effing Austin and Martellus effing Bennett, even though I totally agree with axing TO. I can't continue to have sunshine blown up my ass. Again: were we a 5-11 team on the rise, with a young coach and some young talent, I'd be fine. But we're a 9-7 team with all its best players in their prime. And our youngish QB, whose continued development was key to our long term chances, has regressed badly. He's just not the same player. I give him a lot of credit for making himself into an NFL starter coming from E. Illinois, I really do. He'll be the most successful D-3 QB in NFL history. But he'll never win a playoff game.

4) I rarely watch games with my wife at my side, as I get a little maniacal. But she was "amazed" with my Nostradamus-like powers when I said..."We're up 10-0, 3rd and long, our defense is shutting them down...here's where Romo has a big turnover to let them back into the game." And I was right. Sickening. But Romo's turnovers have become so situationally predictable, we're entering Bledsoe territory.

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UPDATE: After having received a lot of feedback on my post (some of it surprisingly nasty and personal), I'd like to, as they say here in the nation's capital, "revise and extend my remarks." A little background: following the Cowboys is a significant hobby for me, and has been from age 8 to age 37. I spend 3 hours a week watching games, and probably 5-8 hours a week reading/thinking about/talking about the Cowboys. OK? That's a legit fan. Hell, that might be a legit disorder!

1) I'm a lawyer, and I'm usually pretty precise with words. This time, I wasn't. This isn't the fault of the audience for misunderstanding me, by the way. This is the fault of me, the communicator, inadequately conveying my thoughts. I'm rarely enraged, so it might've had something to do with that.

2)  I really should’ve said “I no longer have any hope in the organization (especially Wade-Jerry-Tony), and I’m going to stop paying attention to the Cowboys until there is reason to think they have their crap together.” I want them to have it together. But I feel a little like a felt as a DC Republican when Bush nominated Harriet Miers for the Supreme Court. I was just like "OK, I want this guy to succeed, but I just can't defend it anymore, and I can't have any hope that it will get better." It was just a breaking point.

3) Everyone probably should have their "breaking point" with the team they root for. Not in the sense that they will leave for good, but in the sense that they'll not pay attention until the organization changes direction. And by "direction," I don't mean "record." It's not the losses that kill me. It's Jerry saying postgame "I'm not going to act like we just lost the Super Bowl." (If only we were that good!) It's Jerry seemingly to honestly get out the anointing oil for Austin and Bennett before they'd done boo in actual NFL games. I can't help but like Jerry personally...I'd love to sit next to him on a plane sometime. I think he's a mensch. Think the same of Romo and even Wade. I think they all try very hard. I just no longer have any hope that this cast of characters can take us even to the playoffs. So I'm "done" believing that that outcome is possible, and I'm downgrading my attention from like 10 hours a week to 30 minutes a week.

4) Different people will have different breaking points than others. The way Al Davis has run the Raiders, wouldn’t a lot of legit Raiders fans say “I love the Raiders, but I hate what Al Davis has made them into. I’m not supporting them, I’m not going to spend time hoping they get better, unless and until Al radically changes.” Sometimes, real fans have to back away a little until the organization gets its stuff together.

5) I don’t think Jerry is Al Davis bad, and he’s not even Dan Snyder bad. He IS, however, one of only three owners who is running his franchise this way. Two out of three of those franchises are fabulously profitable, but none of them are even close to winning a Super Bowl. Jerry markets the team fabulously. But if he really believes that Roy is a #1 worth a first round pick, that Bennett and Austin will replace TO’s production, etc., he’s an awful GM. I don’t think Jerry is giving up the GM title. Maybe he gives Stephen more responsibilities. I’m fine with that. I just can’t continue to follow them fanatically when they’re doomed to failure, as they are this year. So in summary, let me say: I'm not done as a fan. I'm done as an avid fan, and I don't have much hope that things will ever turn around to make the team worth the kind of emotion I'd given to it.

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you are sooo right

especially about Romo, in the Giants game when we took the lead late in the 3rd and got up to midfield I called my buddy and said “this is where he throws a pick!” and he did it. Same thing yesterday, we get the fumble on the kickoff, and I say to my wife “just run it 3 times and kick a fg, because this is where Romo throws a pick”….and he did.

it’s very predictable, in any close game, vs a good team Dallas will almost always get a small lead, then have the ball in very good position to extend it to more than 1 score, and Romo will throw a pick 9 out of 10 times.

by stephen1 on Oct 5, 2009 8:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you think that pick was on Romo yesterday,

you’re oblivious. Miles Austin clearly never came out of his break on that comeback. That one is on him.

by Mandmeisterx on Oct 5, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romo is like that kid that is always there when something happens, but somehow it’s never his fault.

by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 5, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, this gets old. Sometimes mistakes ARE on someone

besides Romo. You don’t have to be a mindless defender of the guy to see that, and accusing anyone who defends him of being a homer is mindless, too.

by Fernie67 on Oct 5, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't mean in this instance it wasn't true

Raf’s post game report explained it pretty well, I thought. They used the same play with Roy a few times. I’d have to give Romo the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.

by APerfectStar on Oct 5, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go back even further to the Steelers game last year

when in crunch time, going up against the # 1 defense in the league and needing a big play in the last 2:00, I knew right then that Romo was going to throw an interception. And surely enough, it was a pick-six and we lost the game. This guy is the next Brett Favre in that he’s the king of throwing interceptions.

by Burt88 on Oct 5, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm annoyed at JJ too

the only reason he kept Wade and Garrett was for financial reasons, that = a lost season.

by stephen1 on Oct 5, 2009 8:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tim - you should get into...

horse racing ownership – the sport of Kings…much more exciting, and at the end of the day, if you lose, there is no one to blame but yourself…because YOU are the owner.

"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"

by SaratogaRacing on Oct 5, 2009 8:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good post

For me, JJ is the problem. Take away Jimmy Johnson and what do we have? Nothing. JJ gets defended all the time on this blog. For what? For running out the one great coach we’ve had since Landry? We have not one a playoff game since 1996 – and that was a win by a team in decline.

(Don’t give me Parcells. Personally, I think he’s overrated. He patches together teams with old players who know exactly what he wants. They can win while he’s there. But Parcells leaves when he knows they’re done. )

I waste so much time worrying about Sunday, and then watching the game, the off-season, everything. I’m a DIE-HARD fan but this is starting to get crazy. Nothing is any different than 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004 … 1997. Seriously. We are all crossing our fingers for 9-7, with 10-6 being the ultimate stretch and 8-8 pretty likely.

I really think we may be done as a franchise until Steven takes over and hires a GM.

by King Man on Oct 5, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Will Steven Jones hire a GM?

Or will he follow in his daddy’s footsteps? Eh…we won’t get to find out anyway for another 10+ years…

by DavidH22 on Oct 5, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stephen would make a good GM IMO.

but you’re right, we won’t see it until Jerry is 6 feet under.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 5, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yo Tim

Would you mind picking some lottery numbers for me tonight?

Seattle is cursed. For life.

by SSreporters on Oct 5, 2009 9:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here Here

+1000

The older I get, the better I was.

by Far Rider on Oct 5, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec’d.

Seriously dude, my hockey team is on a 40+ year futility streak and I’m not old enough to have seen them lift the Stanley Cup, my baseball team has been perpetually rebuilding for more than a decade – and spending that time trying to keep up to the Yanks and BoSox. We never quit, never say die, and never roll over – that’s what being a fan is about. So yeah shrugs good riddance and good luck.

by Blue and White Expat on Oct 5, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bye Tim

I’ll be shocked and awed if you post any more on this blog

Let me guess…………..you’re becoming a Broncos fan now, right?

Bleh – we didn’t need you anyway.

by BishopWest on Oct 5, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sure it's just frustration
I can watch a 5-11 team that has upside. I can’t watch an 8-8 team whom the GM and coach thinks has 12-4 talent.

and to me, that about sums up why we’re so sick of this shit.

Russian Machine Never Breaks

by macvechkin on Oct 5, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+85

The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!

by aussie_cowboy on Oct 6, 2009 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ zillion

you’re not a fan if you haven’t been through the bad times.
I grew up a Red Sox fan when they and the Cubbies were the definition of futility. Oddly enough, I’m a little bit less passionate about the Sox and follow them LESS closely now that they’ve won 2 WS in 4 years. That’s probably an idiosyncratic Sox thing, but the fact remains: the more you suffer, the more the reward. I’ve got a lot of love for those Lions fans who went to every game last year, re-upped on their season tickets, and felt like it was the Superbowl when they beat the Redskins last week.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 6, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What We Have

is a very Romo unfriendly offense. Maybe it’s just me, but Tony is looking miserable on the field. Even when things are going good he looks like a cat who swallowed a sour mouse. He looks tentative on most throws. Someone or something has gotten into his head. The outside obvious pressures of an owner, media and fanbase whose unreasonable demands for constant excellence are taking there toll. He isn’t allowed to just be himself. Tony isn’t having fun anymore and it’s showing in the loss column. Just my humble opinion.

The older I get, the better I was.

by Far Rider on Oct 5, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Watching the game last evening, I kept thinking: I’d take that happy kid who does occasional stupid ^%$# over this sour-faced robot. It appears that he’s so afraid to make a mistake that its affecting his accuracy, his choice of throws (now all checkdowns), and his internal clock in the pocket.

by rabblerousr on Oct 5, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't agree more...

Almost started a thread about this until I read that. Even the Buffalo game a few years back when he had 5 or 6 turnovers, I didn’t see body language like I’ve been seeing the last two weeks. Absent maybe 2 drives against Carolina in the second half, he’s been a complete mess. I’d be curious to hear those “sound bytes” like NFL Network had for Week 1 against the Bucs, only for the last two weeks. Guaranteed it’s a 180 degree difference. The only question is – can this guy get his brovado back, or is he past the point of no return?

by Iessthanmike on Oct 6, 2009 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So long Tim, it's been nice having you around.

Let me know which new team you’ll choose and I’ll come visit you occasionally on that teams’ SBNation Blog

by One.Cool.Customer on Oct 5, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I’m guessing by the fact that you felt strongly enough about Dallas to write this post that you are not actually giving up on the team.

by Taoboy on Oct 5, 2009 10:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Token post written out of frustration. If you’ve followed a team for that long you don’t suddenly turn it off. Not possible.

Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.

by APerfectStar on Oct 5, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take care now, bye-bye then

I think you may be missing something.. This IS a 5-11 team with upside. You just put too much stock in the upside.

Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.

by sublimezg on Oct 5, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

LOL!

Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is hard...

With Jerry as the owner/GM. I think we can all expect the Cowboys to have the same level of success that the Raiders and Redskins have enjoyed in recent years.

It’s just sad when one man’s ego ruins it for everyone else…

The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.

by gee-roj on Oct 5, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd describe it more as a "separation"

This is a separation that I hope doesn’t end in divorce. It’s done with great sorrow. Read my past posts…I looove the Cowboys, and I want very badly for them to win. But I’m now resigned to the fact that they won’t. Not with this coach, not with this QB, and not (gulp) with this GM. The latter is the reason why I think our 12 year playoff drought is likely to be a two decade drought.

It means that I’m not watching any more games, reading any more stories, or “hoping” anymore. I know that we won’t improve beyond our 9-7 mediocrity, I think Jerry really thinks that we’re only a new coach or a new free agent away, and we’re not. We’re where we were when Bledsoe was taking us to 9-7. And we have no plan to fix it.

And for those who call me “fair weather.” Look: I know this isn’t remotely morally equivalent, but it’s like calling a long-suffering spouse who refuses to be lied to anymore “fair weather.” My love for the Cowboys is conditional. It’s not conditional on winning and losing, it’s conditional on them having a plan to get better that’s remotely realistic and doesn’t involve the laughable “Austin is replacing TO’s production.”

by TimSchultz36 on Oct 5, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

actually...no

We celebrated our one year anniversary this weekend. And the Cowboys loss was not even remotely enough to cancel out the joy of the weekend…

by TimSchultz36 on Oct 5, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So she farted then?

And you still love her? That’s great Tim. Just kidding, don’t get mad

Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread

by dcfansinceiwasababy on Oct 5, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He makes the mistake of being truthful.

That makes him a better fan than most of you.

by StillHateTheGiants on Oct 5, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you calling Tim a better fan?

May I remind you that he is the one “jumping ship”

Is this the truth that makes him a better fan than most of us?

The sheer inevitability of the loss, and the lack of hope for improvement, are why I’m done.

He doesn’t even deserve to be called a fan.

Dumping your team when the chips are down? That’s just sick.

by BishopWest on Oct 5, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That comment doesn't make sense at all...

He is a better fan because he leaves (aka no longer keeping interest in the NFL) when the Cowboys are frustrating to watch? I have absolute no problem with people being negative and I have no problem with being honest. I am okay with those opinions (which tend to be the opposite of mine) because I know at the end of the day we all (positive and negative fans) watch the games and root for the Cowboys even if we have differing opinions of the prognosis for this team. However, when you are willing to stop caring simply because this team is not meeting expectations, you absolutely lose the right to be called a true fan.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 5, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!

by aussie_cowboy on Oct 6, 2009 3:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

-1

He’s still probably a better fan than you.

Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.

by APerfectStar on Oct 5, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is money right here:

I can watch a 5-11 team that has upside. I can’t watch an 8-8 team whom the GM thinks has 12-4 talent.

Two points:
1. Not only does the GM think we have 12-4 talent, he thinks we have Super Bowl Championship talent. What does that mean? That means problems aren’t getting fixed. He’s just putting a band-aid on stuff and waiting for it to all “click” for a Super Bowl run.

2. This is why Romo HAS to go. He’s the biggest underachiever on this team and the biggest poster boy for “potential.”

by Parl on Oct 5, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure about Point 2, but Point 1 is right on the money.

That’s how we ended up with our weak receiving corps where a good #2 is our #1, a good #3 is our #2, and the rest are undrafted free agents. This team needs to bring in either more or better people to scout the talent on their own team.

by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 5, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never seen

a more criticized and hated player than Tony Romo. Both by his own fanbase and the media. This guy could crap out a rainbow and people would still find some degree of fault in it. Has he played great this season so far? No. But he surely has still played better than many other QB’s in this league. Not to mention that the season is still early. I think his best days are ahead of him yet this season.

He also hasn’t been that terrible in any game besides the Giants game. He was great against TB and gave us a chance to win these past two. We came through last week and we didn’t this week. It’s not as though everything that went wrong this week was necessarily his fault. Hurd made a couple of bonehead plays on that last drive that could have made our last ditch effort a lot more dangerous.

I don’t think the guy is perfect, and I’m not the hugest Romo sympathizer on here, but the guy surely gets more of a raw deal than he deserves. I still think he has the potential to be a Super Bowl winning QB and I still think that when we win it’s generally because of him, and not in spite of him. There are plenty of teams suffering through that in this league right now, and I’m glad we’re not one of them.

by Mandmeisterx on Oct 5, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Romo is the #21 rated passer so far this season.

Do you really think that the other 12 guys that qualify are taking less criticism than him? I’d actually say that he is the most defended player that I’ve ever seen.

It’s also rather disingenuous to suggest that people are giving him this level of criticism solely for his play this year, or that he has earned a benefit of the doubt that should exempt him. Thus far in his career, he has yet to lead his team to victory in a playoff game, he has been wildly inconsistent, and does not show signs of improvement. Since coming back from his injury 11 games ago, he has had a lower than 72 passer rating 5 times, all resulting in losses. That’s even more scary because all 5 occurred in the last 7 games. So based on his recent play, the criticism is deserved, in my opinion.

by Baked Potato Soup on Oct 5, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying that the guy

has proved be can be somewhere between really good and elite. He threw over 30 td’s 2 years ago, and he obviously has the ability to repeat that. And I’m not saying some of the criticism isn’t warranted. I’m fine for being critical of someone when it’s deserved. I just hate the people that blame every woe of this team on the guy when it’s not always the case. I know it’s the QB’s job to win ball games and that when he doesn’t that’s his fault. But I don’t think we’ve been in too many games that I didn’t feel like Romo gave us a chance to win. Even when we’re down. I thought for sure we’d win that game yesterday when we got the ball with time left.

by Mandmeisterx on Oct 5, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

After the Giants game, sportcasters, national and local, were talking about him

in the most disrespectful way I’ve ever heard any QB discussed. Even reporters with no ties to the Cowboys. They were using him as the butt of jokes. You may have seen that done before; I haven’t, and I’ve been watching sports and sports shows for a long time.

by Fernie67 on Oct 5, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When was ANY reciever open

I only saw Crayton open once and the Great Roy Williams open Twice the entire game…like it or not they miss a big time reciever ie. T.O.

by Martin79 on Oct 5, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it didn't have skittles in it!

Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.

by sublimezg on Oct 5, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerry's quote was...

“I’m not going to act like we just lost the Super Bowl.” (If only we were good enough to lose the Super Bowl, Jerry!) It rings eerily like his “I like where we are” after the (very similar) loss to Arizona last year. Look, I realize that he’s always spinning. But the question is, are his public comments different from his private evaluations as a GM? Does he really, in private, think Martellus Bennett is a breakout star, and that Austin is going to replace TO’s production? If so, it shows that he’s not evaluating his roster remotely well, which the is #1 imperative of a GM. I’m applying to Jerry something I once called “The Pettiti Test”: if he were on the open market, would he be in his position for ANY other team in football? Jerry would be hired as a GM by precisely zero other teams. Wade would be hired for his position by precisely zero other teams. The number of teams what would want Romo as their starter is falling. There are other teams in worse and more hopeless situations (Raiders, Redskins). But to me, we’re in the same boat as those other teams: we’re not anywhere near a Super Bowl team, we’re not a player away, we’re not injury luck away. And because we haven’t fallen into Raiders level embarrassment, Jerry is still able to make money from an overly loyal fan base, without re-assessing how truly far we are from making a Super Bowl run.

by TimSchultz36 on Oct 5, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1) Romo has regressed. It might be like the hand injuries that derailed Kurt Warner’s career, but Romo can add “inaccurate” to his other list of woes. He used to combine bonehead plays with high accuracy and big plays. But since he returned from the broken hand last year, he’s a sub-60% passer.

yeah he hasnt been the same since. As much as I hate TO (and am pretty sure you guys do to now) i think romo misses him more than he thought he would

Brent Celek is the man

by 700 Level on Oct 5, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

co-sign

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Oct 5, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romo misses the TO of 2007, sure

The 2007 TO played at a Hall of Fame level. TO is not that player anymore. I think the problem is the GM thinking that Roy+Austin=2007 TO. Again: poor roster evaluation.

by TimSchultz36 on Oct 5, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romo

misses a #1 receiver, not Terrell Owens.

by what_the_crap on Oct 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+#1WR

Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys

by Aaron Novinger on Oct 5, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.

by gee-roj on Oct 6, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I share your frustration, Tim.

What gets me is that we do have talent.

The problem is between the ears, which extends to poor decision making, stupid mistakes, and self-inflicted wounds.

A disciplinarian (and I don’t just mean a screamer… there are disciplinarians who are not screamers and just as effective) who holds his players accountable not just verbally, but with consequences for that player’s actions on and off the field.

You keep turning the ball over, you get disciplined.

You keep tackling poorly, you get disciplined.

You commit dumb-a** penalties, you get disciplined.

Do we have that?

Have we had that?

No.

No.

And a thousand eff’n times HELL NO!!!

We’re soft, undisciplined, and stupid.

The opposite of tough, disciplined, and smart.

I’ll stick by my Boyz, but I don’t blame Tim for feeling that way.

I think we can all say that we feel his pain as Diehard Cowboys Fans.

We’re our own worst enemies.

It’s tough enough to win a game in the NFL, but it’s doubly tougher when you have to overcome your own mistakes and defeat your opponent in the same freakin’ contest.

Fire Wade already.

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Oct 5, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bill Parcells

The team went from a disciplinarian-yelling-in-your-face to a players-friendly coach, the players have responded by making the same mistakes with both of them.

The most likely thing is that a new coach, something in between (ala Fisher) or something in the extremes, will continue to suffer from the same mistakes.

I just don’t know what this team needs to do.

Viva México! Go Cowboys!

by Chandus on Oct 5, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah chandus

i’m secretly hoping that tennessee continues to suck this year, so that Fisher could be another top flight coach available next season (added to Cowher, Shanahan, Holmgren, and Gruden).

i don’t necessarily want a disciplinarian-yelling-in-your-face type… however i do want a coach who’s not afraid to reinforce things and dole out consequences for repeated in-game blunders.

Celebrity or Imposter?
YOU Decide...
http://www.xanga.com/metaltometal/689036052/celebrity-or-imposter/

by silverblue5 on Oct 5, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best post I've read in a while silverblue

I HATE that it’s so true.

Plus, I feel your pain TIm…JJ and Wade has made watching our beloved Cowboys EXTREMELY difficult/frustrating/depressing.

Stick it out though, brother. Just remember how sweet 1989 made 1992 feel.

by Starred4Life on Oct 5, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

frustrating yes but...

After living through the 60s “can’t win the big one”, Steve Pelluer/Hogeboom/et.al. , 1-15 seasons etc. etc. etc; I can handle this one, but then I’m what you call a FAN. (I also am a FAN of the Rangers and Mavs so being a FAN of the ’boys is a cakewalk comparitively speaking).
Go be a “fan” of the current front running team; who needs ya.

"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

by angie'sdad on Oct 5, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree. If you have been a fan for 29 years, what the heck is going on to make you stop now?

We have already made sure this can’t be the worst season in Cowboys history, let alone the last 29 years. All I can say is “Don’t let the door hit ya, where the good LORD split ya”.

"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell

by GunsUp on Oct 5, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since winning Super Bowl 6…

The longest championship drought the Cowboys have ever suffered through has been 15 years, (between winning Super Bowl 12 in ’77 and Super Bowl 27 in ’92). This franchise is just not meant to be like the Jets where 40 plus years goes by without so much as a Super bowl appearance.

I agree with TimSchultz36 in that it can actually be fun to watch a 7-9 team that you know is on the rise and has a future. I absolutely knew that Jimmy Johnson was putting together a power house team back in 1990 when the Cowboys finished that season 7-9. Even though they missed the playoffs that year they were still a young and promising team that was clearly loaded with talent and simply needed a couple more years of experience. It was just obvious and you could see it coming.

I have never had a similar feeling about the 2000’s Cowboys. After starting the decade with 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons things have been better but not great; in this era 9-7 is the norm.

Jerry Jones reminds me of George Lucas in that they both have tremendous egos that have gotten/get in the way of letting something be as good as it should. One ruined an iconic film franchise and the other is sullying one the most renowned franchises in all of professional sports.

With a lot more id Jerry would be more like Bob Kraft or the Rooney family and bring in a GM (with true football knowledge) to manage this team (hire coaches, run drafts etc). But he would rather manage a team that’s highest aspirations are to win a single playoff game rather than just simply own a team that wins multiple Super Bowls.

The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.

by gee-roj on Oct 5, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep things in perspective

Maybe some were lulled into a false sense of security, but most were not.

Yes, the team is playing beneath the level of its talent.

Yes, the mental mistakes of previous years don’t bode well.

Yes, Romo looks like he should be benched.

Yes, they break my heart.

But at the end of the day, like successful businesses, winning teams have a certain ingredient in their mix that the current Cowboys coaching staff is ill-equipped to provide. The notion of coaching changes in the upcoming off season bolsters my fandom. Change can be a beautiful thing.

I don’t think Romo is done. But I do think that he is in an environment where he won’t improve until he has someone “leading” him.

As I have posted on many occasions, this team isn’t much different than previous versions in that when the going gets tough, the locker room is rudderless. There are no Manning’s or Brady’s or Irvin’s or whoever to help the team rally around the flag.

I think this team can be remade in the way Baltimore, San Francisco and the Jets have been remade. All it takes is an end to Winnie’s reign of stupidity and a change at the top.

Hope springs eternal, Tim. Don’t let this goofy, soft coaching staff make you a victim of their poor performance.

Things can always get better.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Oct 5, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"There are no Manning's or Brady's or Irvin's or who ever to

help the team rally around the flag." Did I miss something or didn’t Jerry dismiss all of the so called “malcontents” to make the team “Romo friendly?” Were we or were we not as fans, led to believe that cutting T.O.specifically was so that Romo could have the opportunity to “be the leader of the team?” Didn’t Jerry pay him to be that type of player? You say the locker room is “rudderless”. Isn’t this now supposed to be Romo’s locker room? Like it or not if management clears the decks for you to be the leader, you better deliver. The jury is still out because the season is young, but I saw the “fat lady” getting out of her car and walking to the arena.

Everyone wants to throw Wade under the bus but to be fair about the situation Wade is in his third year. He really has had two drafts and one year had no #1 picks. He really has not had an opportunity to get “his players.” Hell, he didn’t even get an opportunity to hire his own OC. I’m not saying the guy is great but I can see improvement in the defense and the offense regressing. I’m looking a lot harder at Garrett and Romo then I am Wade right about now.

by jevans1729 on Oct 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he is trying

also. He is a fun guy to watch play. But you have to admit Jerry and Co. were definitely selling the “Romo is the man” theme and cutting players to back up their talk. O.k., I get it. All I’m saying is Romo will be maligned all year by the MSM if this team doesn’t perform, and the obvious comparisons will be made.

by jevans1729 on Oct 6, 2009 5:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brooking knows it's a bit too soon to try and be this team's Ray Lewis...

but next year he could.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll challenge you...just a bit

I never thought T.O., Pacman, Tank, Ellis or Canty were the kind of leaders I’m speaking of.

Yes, the intent was to lower the distraction level, but there was always doubt (except in Terry’s mind) about Romo’s level of emotional maturity and his ability to be the centerpiece of this team. Heck, I’d bet even Terry is questioning that now.

People can make excuses all they want, but this team (as with all teams) is a reflection of it’s coach. Winnie is soft. Dallas is soft. Winnie is goofy. Dallas is goofy. Winnie is undisciplined. Dallas is undisciplined.

Warren Sapp said it. Michael Strahan said it. Heck, even Michael Irvin says it. If you puch Dallas in the mouth, they will fold like a house of cards.

It’s time to rebuild the Dallas Cowboys into a tough, disciplined and focused team and that will start once we have a Head Coach that has a pair.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Oct 6, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

punch*

…although they might fold if you “puch” them too.

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Oct 6, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point that I was

trying to make is that Jerry Jones did not question Romo’s “emotional maturity” as evidenced by the moves he made and his statements to the press. You said “the intent was to lower the distraction level” but Jerry Jones said (paraphrase) Owens was let go to allow Romo to be the leader of the team. He further stated that “Aikman would have had a hard time being the leader of the Cowboys if Irvin hadn’t supported him.” I think the inference there is obvious. Now granted, I am taking Jerry at his word which may be dangerous, but there is nothing in there about distractions. Now maybe Jerry was being tactful but he also paid Romo like the leader of the team so I’m trying to base my case on what people do and not what they say.

As for Wade Phillips, the guy went 22-10 in his first two years. That is a winning percentage of 69%. You can’t fire coaches with winning percentages like that. I know you are a “SB or bust guy” and I get that. However, we had the renowned Bill Parcells and he didn’t put up those numbers his first two years. However, you are surely entitled to have Wade as your whipping boy. As of this writing, my culprits are Romo and Garrett. You may be right. Only time will tell.

by jevans1729 on Oct 6, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goodbye Tim

Don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.

by makeit6 on Oct 5, 2009 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

listen

For all those “don’t let the door hit you” people…

I’m not celebrating leaving, and I’m not telling anyone else to follow me out. I’m not rooting for other teams. I was a Cowboys fan. Now I will be a fan of no one. I’m not going to follow the NFL, period.

by TimSchultz36 on Oct 5, 2009 2:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

then get off the Cowboys blog

i though you were gone already

by BishopWest on Oct 5, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know Jerry is Al Davis Jr......

But I’m not quite ready to throw in the towel after 38 years. I don’t know how this will get fixed, but Jerry needs to start by hiring a real GM and stop meddling. Fat Chance!

The roller coaster is on the way up, so they should beat KC, head into the bye and lose to Atlanta and be 3-3 after that game. I have a ticket for the ride!

by onepaniolo on Oct 5, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm still a fan for life

But I am totally disgusted at how this team is performing on game days and I think it is a totally in reflection of the HC.

I have not given up on Romo, but he needs to get his head out of his a** and perform like I know that he can. Yesterday he was inaccurate to say the least and he seems scared to throw a pass because he might turn it over. Tony needs to be Tony again.

The DEF played great until the Brandon Marshall TD. I think T-New was in good position, BUT you can’t let him score! There were 5 Dallas defenders around him and you let him score? That shouldn’t happen!

The loss still goes on the offense. Blame Romo, Garrett, lack of deep threat, whoever/whatever you want. But this offense is in shambles and needs to get fixed. The o-line and running backs are the the only part of the offense that is performing.

My hope now is that we get the inconsistency / losing out of the way early and get on a roll later and end the season winning, because the last few years we started out hot and fizzled in the end.

I am staying positive and I will continue to support my Cowboys!

Go Cowboys!

by Boyz4Life on Oct 5, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Personally, I blame Romo's regression on the coaches

I feel like they’re the ones trying to rein him in and make him stay in the pocket rather than improvise more. I have no idea if that’s actually the case, but he clearly doesn’t seem comfortable in the games just standing and waiting.

by Joon on Oct 5, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt that the coaches are telling him to...

…stay in the pocket rather than improvise.

I’d think they are telling him simply to “protect the ball” ie. minimize fumbles, INTs, and limit the mental mistakes.

Tony usually makes good plays improvising outside the pocket and I’m sure the coaches know that.

by BishopWest on Oct 5, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 6, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

I swore I was done after 44-6, yet here I am. But is it kind of weird to hope for a really bad season so a much-needed housecleaning might happen?

by Elwood62 on Oct 5, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Be happy with what you have

How about being a Detroit Lions fan?? Maybe you might have hope with Stafford, but how about winning ONE playoff game in the MODERN ERA? Want to pick a more successful franchise? How about hte MInnesota Vikings or the Buffalo Bills? Yes they may have had their share of successes, but guess how many Super Bowls they have combined? 0. San Deigo? 0. Packers? 3. Patriots? 3. How about the rest of the NFC East combined? 5 – the same amount that your old team – the Cowboys- used to have.
You know, I just hate when people go about complaining that oh, we haven’t won a playoff game in 14 years. I was 5 – a few years before I started watching football – the last time the Cowboys won a playoff game. I’ve never seen them win in the postseason, and yet I can sit hear and hope that maybe, just maybe, this streak will end this year and we will return to glory, while people like the person who created this fanpost, who have seen the Cowboys win at least 3 of their 5 Super Bowls, can give up just as easily unless as someone said earlier, you’re just not a true fan of this team. Am I saying that this team is going to win the Super Bowl or a playoff game with Romo as the QB or Garret as the OC or Wade as the HC. No. But am I going to give up on a team thats just 2-2 (while they also had a chance to win both games) and is in the thick of things? Absolutely Not: Theres still a long way to go. I’m sorry that you feel that way Tim, but if you’re just going to leave after a game like this, then imo, you can’t call yourself a true fan.

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by hinduplaya on Oct 5, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is silly

Do you often compare your life to someone in the slums of Calcutta to make yourself feel better?

"Well, we didn't block real good but we made up for it by not tackling."

- John McKay, the first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

by 5Blings on Oct 6, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That comment is absolutely unnecessary

There is no place for race and culture in this discussion. I’M TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL. This is supposed to be something about being thankful for what you have. If you feel that you dont wanna be a fan after one loss, then by all means go root for the Lions or whoever else you want to.
And as for your question, I dont compare myself, but to this day I do remain thankful for what I have whatever it might be in.

After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL

by hinduplaya on Oct 7, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like you Tim...

and if you make that decision then so be it, but I really don’t get it.

I can’t do it. Even as mad as I am right now, next weekend I’ll be watching and hoping for a rebound.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Unfortunatly there isn’t one thing that Dallas can do that can make the high out of a win be better than how bad a loss is.

Being a fan (certainly diehard ones, like most here) isn’t for everyone.

So good luck, but I think you should reconsider, because once you quit you can’t come back in without the “bandwagon” label.

by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Oct 5, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you don't want to watch that is your decision...

Just don’t come around here if the Cowboys somehow turn it around because at that point you will have lost all credibility as a fan.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 5, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's what I'm talking about

Tim now has no credibility and is duly ignored

by BishopWest on Oct 5, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe or understand how some of you guys think

I’ve been a fan for 27 years myself and I feel very similar to the way Tim does. Blind loyalty doesn’t make sense on any level. I’d never “switch teams” but is it okay to look at things realistically and say that there are teams in the NFL that are run much better then our’s? I became a fan in 1982 because we were a great organization with great players. Since then a man who made millions of dollars in the OIL BUSINESS purchased our team, he hired himself a great head coach, fired him too soon and since then we, as fans, have had to put up with more or less a fan who knows very little about football acting as a general manager. Objectively look at the past 12-13 years and show me how JJ has any kind of football intelligence.

He fires Johnson so he can have a “yes man” as head coach. This last for several years (the Switzer-Gailey-Campo era) and then he begrudingly accepts that he needs to go in a different direction and hires Parcells. Then when Parcells disagrees with him on T.O. he decides to go back and hire another “yes man” Wade Phillips. Except that any Denver or Buffalo fan could have told you, WP gets outcoached on a regular basis.

He signs T.O. to a four year extension at the beginning of last year and trades a first round pick for Roy Williams. Anybody who knows anything about football ridicules this move, however this is the same guy who traded TWO first round picks for Joey Galloway,

There are many, many (cough, Quincy Carter, cough) examples I can post but the bottom line is that I, like Tim, love the Cowboys. But after seeing them screwed up so much in recent years, it just becomes very frustrating to watch.

by Beuerleincouldhavebeenbetterthentroy on Oct 5, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The difference between a good fan and a "fair-weather" fan

is not that the good fan always has something good to say about the team and that the “fair-weather” fan always has something negative to say. The difference is that the good fan will watch and root for the team even in light of the frustrating play, while the “fair-weather” fan will desert the team since it is not performing well. Nobody is saying you can’t be frustrated (I certainly am), but when you are willing to stop supporting the team due to a few tough losses, then you are certainly a fair-weather fan.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 5, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Anyone who deserts their team in tough times

was never really a true fan to begin with but just an interested spectator.

Guess they just lost your interest.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 5, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's just an insult

I’m 37, I’ve seen 90% of the games since I was 8. Seriously…I was obsessed. This is a matter of me having lost faith in the organization to get any better. I don’t believe in Romo anymore (and he was my all time favorite Cowboy…more than Dorsett, more than Irvin). Wade can (and will) be changed, but Jerry won’t be embarrassed enough by an 8-8 season to radically re-think what he’s doing. He can get a new coach and sell fans on a new regime for another season or two and make a big FA splash during a capless season.

But really…don’t insult me by saying I was never a fan. I was and am. I just don’t believe any more. I don’t think that my leaving is going to force Jerry Jones to change. I’m just one guy. But I hope a lot of people end up thinking the way I do after yet another missed playoff season. Jerry Jones cares secondarily about winning games. Yes, he wants to win, but his primary motivation in owning the ‘Boys is to feed his colossal ego. There’s no other explanation for him keeping on a failed GM (himself) and a string of weak coaches (save for Parcells). The two other owners in the league who do it this way (Davis and Snyder) are pathological. I don’t think Jerry is even close to as bad as them. But he’s using a failed model of running a successful franchise. All signs point to this being the 13th consecutive(!) failed year, and I’d like him to be held accountable.

by TimSchultz36 on Oct 5, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're the one that said you're not a fan anymore

now you’re changing your tune? BTW, how are you going to hold Jerry accountable?? He owns the freakin team for crying out loud.

Nobody can hold him accountable but himself.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Oct 5, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said.

Also, even if Jerry isn’t quite as deranged as the has-been collecting Snyder, the fact is the Cowboys’ recent on-the-field product has been just as irrelevant as the ’Skins in the grand scheme of things. Even Al was able to field a team that was a consistent Super Bowl contender at the beginning of this decade.

by MadMick on Oct 5, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the comparison to Warner you made...

Besides similar hand injuries, Warner’s career trajectory just goes to show what can happen to undrafted wonderboys. If you get right down to it, Kurt Warner has actually been the gun-shy turnover-prone version of himself longer than he was a perennial MVP candidate.

by MadMick on Oct 5, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you've been a fan that long

then you have seen much much worse than this. I can’t understand why you see no hope though. Myself, I see a team that’s still “getting its act together” trying to get an identity, etc. And if you think the reasons you listed are unique, they’re not. You may have forgotten the titanic turd Bum Bright as the owner, the myriad of crap QBs we’ve had since Aikman, the lovely collection of coaches we went through post Jimmy Johnson, etc. Seen all this before. I won’t be like some people here and give you the “door-ass” comment because I think you’ve just reached the end of your rope. I’ll just say good luck in your quest for a new love/hate relationship because that’s about what a Cowboy fans’ life is.

by Benthere on Oct 5, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You guys are making way to much out of a 2-2 start.

Do you honestly think the NFC Beast is going to be a two team race this winter?

I say nay.

Just wait till next week, Kansas City’s gonna make you look real good real, and then ya’ll can go back to “Fearing the Star” or whatever it is you guys do to celebrate.

"We'll show up tomorrow and do the same thing we try to do every day, kick Pedroia's ass in cribbage and try and win a baseball game."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 6, 2009 12:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I lol'd
"Fearing the Star" or whatever it is you guys do to celebrate.

Well played, Giants Fan.

by One.Cool.Customer on Oct 6, 2009 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have to agree as well

for me when dallas beats on KC next week, I will feel better, not because I’ll be going back to “fear the Star” type thoughts, but it will be the first step in getting things back on track. Having the bye week will be huge with getting people healthy. but you make a good point tito. Cowboys fans, imo, overreact to every game, myself included. my intitial reaction to the loss sunday would probably be how id feel if my long-term girlfriend cheated on me (note: i dont have a girlfriend so I’m kind of just imagining how that’d feel, although I do kind of feel like I’m dating the Cowboys)

the problem i have with what this guy who started this is saying is that its 4 games into the year. i wasnt here last year so i dont know but i have a weird feeling that he made a similar post after the philly dismantling. isnt that the time to turn your back, when they collapse and throw away the season?

When something like this happens, losing that is, I’ve never understood taking the harsh negative stance. Granted, it’s almost impossible not to do this right after the game, but give yourself a few days, as I did, and I’m sure your feelings will change. To me, this season has become similar to playing poker. Even when you have a short stack, you still have to believe that you can catch a good run of cards, outplay someone when you need to, maybe get a little lucky, and eventually be in a position to take the whole thing.

It’s early, our chip stack is dwindling, but we have pretty good skills. We have been a bit unlucky at times, and we have called bets when we knew we were beat, but there’s hope, THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE. This thread pisses me off. You’re done with the Cowboys? That’s just inexcusable.

It's not cocky if it's a lie.

by FelixFanclub on Oct 6, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess you havent jumped ship just yet
We’re still better than the Redskins, though

by rioplayer7 on Oct 6, 2009 6:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Methinks some of the responses to this post are a bit overboard.

We’re all frustrated after a loss. Pretty normal reaction. Tim is seeing “the recurring nightmare theme” we have suffered through the last 2 years. He’s emotionally spent because he sees the season heading in the same direction as many previous seasons. He no longer trusts the current regime and squad to bring a different result, so he wants to step back from the emotional investment he has been making through the years. If you think about it, it’s almost a self preserving move he’s making. I completely understand where he’s at emotionally/mentally, I just disagree with his assessment at this point. As do a lot of posters on this board apparently. However I really see no need in calling him out like some of the posts on here or telling him not to let the door hit him in the ass. We’re better than that. Really his post was nothing more than emotional anguish, probably the same as some of the responses he received.

by Benthere on Oct 6, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like your post Benthere

and I know you’re right in your assessment. Tim did cross the line though when he (in his first, original post) said that he was DONE being a Dallas Cowboys fan.

No matter how frustrated we’ve all been at one time or another……I don’t ever remember a fellow-blogger saying he was done with being a fan of the Dallas Cowboys.

That phrase created a whole different dichotomy.

by BishopWest on Oct 6, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True that, he did use the wrong words, thus the edit.

I just thought the reaction was overly strong in a few cases. If that’s where his head is at at this point..I guess I just feel more empathy for him than anything. I would never have posted what he did, I also would not respond to his post either. Either way, we are all fans of this team, taking the good with the bad. Some of us can take more of the bad than others. I’m still stoked, like every season, for the rest of the games. This ain’t over yet..

by Benthere on Oct 6, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is a 'true' fan?

How many times have you recently read something like: You’re not a true fan, if you were, you wouldn’t … (add your own rationalization here – these usually run along the lines of ‘jump ship’, ‘question our coaches’, etc etc – anything to deny the other person’s point of view).

Most of the comments here and elsewhere seem to define the ‘act’ of being a ‘true’ fan as one who sticks by a club through their highs and lows. I certainly have no arguments with that – fanaticism requires that you stick to your beliefs through thick and thin.

However, this ‘true fan’ idea is whipped out every time people find something they disagree with.

  • What, you don’t worship Romo? You CAN’T be a true fan.
  • You’re not from the Dallas area? You can’t be a true fan, no, you’re a bandwagon fan.
  • I’ve been a true fan of this team for xx years (so my arguments trump yours by default).

It is as if being a ‘true fan’ means that you have to be a specific type of person – the ones who scream their hearts out at every game they can go and watch, the ones who have shed blood for the club while brawling with opposition fans in bars and alleys, the ones who are accepted by other fans as ‘true’ fans, the ones who live in the same city, the ones who post frequently on this blog, etc.

There are a lot of warped definitions, but here’s what I think: What defines a true fan is his or her passion. This passion will give you exhilerating highs but also delivers stunningly debilitating blows, and we all react differently.

Really his post was nothing more than emotional anguish, probably the same as some of the responses he received.

As a rule, I never take any fan comments, including my own, seriously for two days after a loss. Call it trauma, call it emotional anguish, whatever. Everybody deals with it differently. Some go into seclusion, some go into all-out blog rage, some swear off the team forever. All will be back. All will be forgiven.

And I will welcome back TimSchulz36 once he has overcome his own bitter personal disappointment. It may take a while, but he’ll be back. That passion is still there, and he can’t just get rid of it.

by One.Cool.Customer on Oct 7, 2009 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Per his updated post....

….he never really left. Before the closing door slammed into his derrière, he stepped back into Cowboys Camp, albeit with some egg on his face. I think Tim will be fine until he starts inching his way back to the exit door again. Next time he decides to jump, someone might give him an extra push.

by BishopWest on Oct 7, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mediocrity

Is there a problem in Dallas? Absolutely…inconsistent play. We are good enough to play well and get a lead against any team in the league. The problem is then materialized on the field where this team can’t “Get up” for a big series and make a big play to win a game.

 In my opinion this falls on the coaching staff. I’m not sure if it is Wade or RHG but unless there is a massive improvement the next 12 weeks there needs to be a move made with the coaching staff. I haven’t given up on the team (well maybe Marty B..less youtube more film study please) and I haven’t even given up on JJ.

I will always root for my team and I will always wish them the best but I have lost faith..not in the boys and not in our owner.. in our ill prepared and uninspired football which in my opinion trickles down from the coaching staff. Wade has done pretty well in his tenure as DC, and Coach D looks great on special teams (the one truly bright light on this current team) outside of that .. RHG and Wade look pitiful as the leaders of the offense and team respectively.

Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game as a head coach..he has lost 4 home playoff games.
His longest tenure as head coach was 3 years. His second year with a team only once saw an improved record (by 1 game)

Wade Phillips for DC

by SDTrueblue on Oct 6, 2009 11:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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