Tony Romo and The Cowboys' Fourth-Down-That-Wasn't
The post-mortem is always painful. But the point of a post-mortem is to know. And that's why this one - following up on how the Cowboys lost 17-10 in Denver - leaves an unusual sting.
Did Tony Romo and the Cowboys not know that their last-gasp fourth-down throw was a last-gasp and fourth-down?
I'll leave it to you to judge.
Here's a piece of video from Dallas TV station Fox4 that suggests that following Romo's fourth-down incompletion to Sam Hurd, he was preparing for one more chance.
*Romo seems to be attempting to hustle the Cowboys back into the huddle.
*Then Tony looks towards a ref and signals "three fingers,'' likely questioning why the previous play wasn't just third down.
*Finally - apparently realizing that there was a stop-the-clock spike earlier in the series that ate up second down - Romo barks at himself and trudges off the field.
Was this a game-decider? Would Romo have attempted a different throw or targeted a different receiver had he more awareness of the circumstance? Is this a blip on the radar screen for a good-and-growing football team and a good-and-growing quarterback? Is this an indicator of a big-picture problem?
I'll just say this: The post-mortem is painful enough when you don't know the answers.
It's even more painful to find out that maybe they don't know the answers.
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At this point
it does not matter. What would he have done differently? Three recievers in the pattern and two bunched in the middle. Where else was he gonna go? Failure to put more recievers in routes and roll the pocket cost the game. Not whether Romo thought he had another down.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
by GunsUp on Oct 6, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly....
it’s not like given any situation, Witten was going out in the pattern.
by Road Warrior on Oct 6, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He made the quick throw to Hurd thinking it was third down
If he had realized it was fourth, he could have waiting longer and made a better decision, understanding that this throw was actually his last opportunity. Having said that, the play call came from Garrett, who definitely did know it was fourth down, and still had Witten in pass protection.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
by circa1015 on Oct 6, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that its almost better that way
If Romo didn’t realize that it was 4th down, it was absolutely idiotic. but at least he didn’t try to force the ball into Sam Hurd on the game deciding play. At least the only reason he threw that particular pass was because Hurd was his first option, and he was trying to get the ball off quickly. Decision making during the play is harder to change that…stupidity.
by tcat75 on Oct 6, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo is a great example...
On how clueless this team really is – with Wade being the most clueless.
~Texas Massacre '09~
by TheHeat on Oct 6, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well it is not like he could have asked WP, he did not even know where MBIII was.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Oct 6, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is times like these that I go to other teams sites that are sucking harder than ours for some solice.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Oct 6, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man...that sucks if he did not realise it was 4th Down
After he spiked the Ball on the 2nd Down…didn’t he go and talk to JG on the sideline? I am really starting to question the IQ of this team.
by thejanusman on Oct 6, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo.........poor, Tony Romo....
(sigh) here we go again
by BishopWest on Oct 6, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw the footage.
It sure looks like he thought it was third down. Sometime this team looks like a monkey f—-ing a football.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because this is romo,
and thinking isn’t his strong suit, he gets a pass. He’s best being told what to do so he can just react. He just isn’t a full QB and leader who is the maestro out there orchestrating all aspects of the offense. He’s a not-too-smart soldier with unusual athletic gifts and instincts.
His coaches KNOW this. or should.
If you’re timing their careers as Cowboys, his coaches and coordinators have to understand that because of this error, a ton of sand in the just fell to the bottom of their hourglasses. If I’m Jerry Jones, I’m really, really unimpressed with every participant in this debacle. The error is either telling Romo the incorrect down and distance, or allowing Romo to think for himself without reminding him from the sideline of the down and distance. This QB needs handling at all times or this happens.
Sloppyness, lack of coordination, lack of discipline, lack of accountability, carelessness of details.
I’m not one to bad-mouth coaches. Because I have no idea what it is they do that can be qualitatively or quantitatively measured, besides Ws andLs. Only their boss and team insiders can know the details that sum up to equal a coach’s effectiveness.
I also know that I can’t know the qualitative value of a player or coach’s mistake. There are too many variables that I’m totally unfamiliar with within the football business, and within the Xs and Os of two professional teams playing against each other. (It’s also why I ignore and/or disdain lay people calling for coaching changes)
But this fourth down flub is indicative of something very wrong. EVERYONE choked and didn’t think to calmly assess the situation in order to steer the team? There is no safeguard where teammates and coaches remind themselves of down and distance?
Am I over-reacting? Sure. But only to show that this is now a pattern. It’s indicative of something wrong.
Jerry Jones is either too loyal to bring pressure to bear, or, he’s too vain about his hiring decisions to admit fault, and so for that reason won’t bring pressure to bear on the organization’s weak links. Or, most dangerously, he doesn’t know where the weak links are.
by Joey2zs on Oct 6, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One might think that Jerry would have learned his lesson there,
about being “too vain about his hiring decisions to admit fault”, with the Campo regime. Not to slight Dave, but that should have taught Jerry to get over himself there. It’s what shamed him into hiring Parcells.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Oct 6, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was TO the problem?
I think not. Need a head coach, QB and receivers..yea that’s the answer Jerry!
by cowboy blues on Oct 6, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't say I told you so...
Ok, I will. For all of you homers (Romers?) who went on the BGN site last year and delighted in D-Mac’s failure to understand the overtime rules… SUCK ON THIS!
I hear the real reason Tony dumped Jessica was because she was always an hour late. Turns out Tony was just reading his watch wrong (teeheehee)!
I bleed green and I piss silver and blue
by oldasquick on Oct 6, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and Romo has the same number of rings that McNabb has
by McLovin9 on Oct 6, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
…but a few less playoff wins.
I bleed green and I piss silver and blue
by oldasquick on Oct 6, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so when Romo retires with no playoff wins and McNabb retires with no Super Bowl wins
will it really matter??
by McLovin9 on Oct 6, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it will to me
because i don’t give one F about McNabb or the Eagles.
by Joey2zs on Oct 6, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
woopty dooo
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 6, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure Romo has come up a little short in some of his biggest games
How did McNabb do with the 4th quater gut-check on his biggest game – he HURLED!
by birdness on Oct 6, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate Philly and the Eagles!
And the low life scum that live there.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets count the Super Bowl trophies the Eagles have.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You have to admit the watch thing is kinda funny.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
by GunsUp on Oct 6, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Really Should See a Dr.
for your blood and urine issues.
by staubachfan on Oct 6, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
stuff like this sure doesn’t help his image! I don’t think it mattered in the long run …. but who knows.
by what_the_crap on Oct 6, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Me neither....
cuz even if it were 3rd down, Garrett would have called that idiotic play again… and seeing it twice was quite enough.
by Road Warrior on Oct 6, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two Words...
Situational Awareness. Aviators have this.
by RayLRiv on Oct 6, 2009 1:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you want to hire a pilot to take over Romos job?
I guess it would be pretty sweet to have a QB named Maverick.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 6, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought he should have spiked the ball in the first place
by DavidH22 on Oct 6, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
there has to be an emergency play call that everyone is ready for.
In the movie North Dallas 40 Mac Davis called two plays in the huddle. That was 30 years ago. If Hollywood knew that then, Romo and Garrett should know it now.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 6, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
theres no excuse for that bs...ridiculous and he deserves all the media bashing heading his way...
by scandrick32 on Oct 6, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
disagree
although it further illustrates Romo’s mental capacity, situational awareness (mentioned above) and the like…..i still dont see how it affected the outcome of the game
by McLovin9 on Oct 6, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really could careless at this point whether it could of affected the outcome of that game or not
It shows me a lack of concentration and stupidity…There is no excuse not knowing what down it is…Its insane and he should get killed for it….
by scandrick32 on Oct 6, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed...if true, there is no excuse
he can cite pressure of the moment and such, but otherwise this is a huge, almost legendary gaffe. Hard to defend.
by DavidH22 on Oct 6, 2009 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the league should give the Cowboys 5 downs?
Make the games more competitive…
by TigerPaw on Oct 6, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow - Romo really is an idiot
Based on that video, he sure as heck thought it was third down – I swear, he’s got to be on something. Now that would explain a lot. Or maybe he’s just plain dumb. Hey, how does everyone feel about paying for the seat licenses and $90.00 parking now – hahaha!! Suckers. This gets crazier by the day! What next?
"The Most Dangerous Man in the world is the one with nothing to lose"
by SaratogaRacing on Oct 6, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
plus 10000000000000
How can you not know the down especially at the point of the game lol…To me it shows a big time lack of oncentration which leads me to believe he has no heart…Step aside romo bring me kitna who I know has heart. Wade should sit him and let him think about his rough start and stew for awhile….
by scandrick32 on Oct 6, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heart and concentration are 2 different things....
i’m not saying that Romo isn’t lacking in both areas…but they’re not related IMO
by McLovin9 on Oct 6, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here comes the media!
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 6, 2009 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
they've
been waiting for something like this …. things were too quiet around here!
by what_the_crap on Oct 6, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note..Minn looked damn good last night
Minn, NO and the giants are by far the 3 best in the nfc…Fun to watch some good football for change
by scandrick32 on Oct 6, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
IFS and BUTS
IF Dallas would have beaten the NYG like they should have and IF they had taken care of biz in Denver like they should have, we all would be singing a different tune. BUT they didn’t, so lets take the whole bunch behind the barn and shoot’em!!
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I get the feeling some of you would lynch your own mothers if she packed you turkey instead of bologna
Some of you really should consider taking a step back followed by several deep breaths. Killing Romo, or even simply benching him will not benefit this team. Not this year, and probably not for many, many years to come. Even if we completely tank this year and draft a QB in the top 8, the results you’re desperately hoping for and clinging to will likely not come to fruition for several years. And that’s under the assumption that they hit on a really good QB, which if you pay any attention to the NFL, is far from a guarantee.
In any given season, twelve QB’s will get their teams to the playoffs, 5 will win at least one playoff game (excluding the BYE teams), and exactly ONE QB of the 32 Romo has alreadwill win it all. y gotten us there twice and likely would have gotten us there again had he not been injured. I’m sorry to say it, but this teams fans could run ANY QB off of this team if the decision was ours. It’s ridiculous. As a whole, we may be the most impatient fans the NFL has to offer.
I’m actually starting to feel sorry for Romo. Not because I think expectations were set to high for him and now he can’t meet them, but because I think he’s very capable of meeting them and he may not get the chance to prove it (here). If we somehow manage to run him out of town and he winds up on another team (which he will), the truth is, I’ll be rooting for him to succeed, even if it’s against a division rivalry. Because frankly, I won’t be rooting against the Cowboys, I’ll be rooting against the voice of the fans that ran him off. He’s got more guts than a lot of you armchair GM’s ever will.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 6, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Your my BFF
This is terrible. Folks here don’t seem to think that our trashing our qb doesn’t matter. It does matter. So what are we gonna start booing him? I knew this bad karma thing was barreling down now full whistle like a runaway train and Tony’s gonna implode if this crap keeps up. Why, cuz that’s what the mediots want. They want to turn us against him, they are drooling like the red eyed vulture vampires they are and can’t wait til this is the consensus. Yep. Right on time, what else juicy kick him while he’s down story is happenin right now? TO won’t cooperate, and he ain’t in Dallas anymore so who cares.
C’mon ya’ll, HE’S OUR QUARTERBACK, (sniff sniff)
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Oct 6, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"mediots"
I love it.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Oct 6, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it's interesting
that as a fan with a blog to voice your opinion… your opinion is that we should support mediocrity. That is FASCINATING to me.
by Joey2zs on Oct 6, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No..
What’s fascinating is how ignorant some fans are. Fascinating and enlightening. By all means, if you have a better suggestion for a starting QB then please, voice your opinion. Go ahead and compile a list for me of the many options available to us oh wise one.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 6, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd never root against the Cowboys, but I'd root for Romo to do well in any way
that wouldn’t affect the Cowboys. I was thinking the same thing about him being run out of town and excelling somewhere else. Neither would surprise me at this point.
by Fernie67 on Oct 6, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly ONE QB of the 32 will win it all. Romo has already gotten us there twice
Dunno how that sentence got so jumbled
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 6, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hurd oob
not knowing the down is inexcusable, but I still wish Hurd had the presence of mind to get out of bounds on either of his two catches and Tony would not have had to spike the ball.
by scottmaui on Oct 6, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
presence of mind
is an issue for most players on this team
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 6, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which goes to coaching
with Sam I can kind of give him a pass just based on his lack of experience and say he’ll be better at those kinds of things with more game time, but still…. coaching.
by scottmaui on Oct 6, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say it is on Hurd
that is a dumb play by a collegian.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 6, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas is a tuff place to play QB.
Ask Dandy Don he retired in his prime because of the fans in part. Every time Roger had a bad game(and he had some stinkers) they call for the backup and they wanted to run Troy out of town after his 7th year. Nothing new around here. The Dallas fans wouldn’t be happy if they had Bart Star and Johnny U wrapped in one. But it is there right to bitch , so get it on.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I said in other threads.........
After being over a decade without a ####### playoff win fans are going to be frustrated and when you do something so idiotic like not know what down it is on the most important drive of the game u deserve to get killed…
by scandrick32 on Oct 6, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would blame Jerry
more than anyone for the playoff drought. He hired inferior headcoaches except for Big Bill. Bill had this going in the right direction,but Jerry couldn’t stand not having the spotlight only on him just as he did Jimmy. Dallas has not drafted well and made some bad trades. Jerry will shoot himself in the foot to make a splash. There will be no more Super Bowls while Jerry runs this team.Hell we can’t even win a play off game.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The trades and drafts have been killin us!
Desean Jackson would be looking mighty fine in silver and blue right about now.
No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.
by Stingah on Oct 6, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah the whole President/gm/coach deal here is preventing us from getting a quality staff
I’d love to see Gruden here, but can you ever picture him working for Jerry?
No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.
by Stingah on Oct 6, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Gruden would come here in a heartbeat.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I so wanna believe that
I throw a freakin kegger
No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.
by Stingah on Oct 6, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gruden door hasn't been darkened by too many teams.
His body of work is not that good. Granted he won a SB with Dungy’s team,but the Bucs went down hill after that. Oakland was his biggest feather in the cap.That got him the Bucs job.Bet they wish they had keep Dungy.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly...that was a Dungy team that won the SB for him....
Gruden is way overrated….he likes the Tampa 2 style defense also and there is no way this team changes to that…
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 6, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree with that to some extent....
dismissal by “oh that was dungy’s team”….
well what did Dungy ever do with it? maybe it was Gruden that got them over the hump – maybe
Dungy also walked into a team that had Manning, Harrison, Freeney, James, Wayne and a host of others and had a perennial 13 win team and how many Super Bowls did he win??? One – and that was against the Bears…with a few colossal playoff implosions along the way – which was what he was know for in TB….
this may seem like a rant – but i think the general public needs to move Gruden up a notch and Dungy down a notch from the current perception
by McLovin9 on Oct 6, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just don't like Gruden as a coach....
He would be like a mini Parcells and we know how that worked out…
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 6, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God forbid
We get someone in here to improve the quality of the 53 and get someone in Jerry’s ear with some football knowledge
by cow_fanatic on Oct 6, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem with someone with football knowledge, but just not Gruden...
Cowher has the knowledge and fire as well experienced in the 3-4 defense…he would be my choice
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 6, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I wanted Cowher before Wade was hired but you missed it on Parcells
by cow_fanatic on Oct 6, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Capers hasn't looked too shabby this year installing the 34 for the Packers.
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 6, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
This season is this season. Resilience is ours!
Jai guru deva, ommm
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 6, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the guy is a workaholic who sleeps 4 hours a night
i can almost guarantee that Phillips gets a full 10 hours before he gets up for his biscuits and gravy….
and if he couldn’t light a fire under Romo’s @ss then nobody could…..he sent Keyshawn home for the season when he acted up….
i am not glorifying Gruden….but if you are frustrated by an underachieving team…this might be the guy that gets them to play hard
i dont know mang….i think in the least there would be a change in culture to some degree
by McLovin9 on Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Dungy, maybe?
I’d like having Gruden in Dallas. The spectacle and entertainment of it would be off the charts. And as a fan, that’s #2 behind winning.
by Joey2zs on Oct 6, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were looking for another Terry Glenn type when he got injured.....
Gave away the house for Roy who is not even remotely similar in style, and don’t appear an inch better
No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.
by Stingah on Oct 6, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One biscuit
away from being a TE.
by I_miss_Switzer on Oct 6, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is almost as bad as giving two #1's for Galloway
Strike that, at least Galloway was hurt and he’s still in the league.
by Road Warrior on Oct 6, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang I think I blocked that trade out of my memory.....
Ouch, thanks for the rude awakening, LOL.
No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.
by Stingah on Oct 6, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Galloway went on to have SEVERAL very good years with the Bucs
if we had a QB here during Galloway’s tenure….i think that most people would view that trade differently
by McLovin9 on Oct 6, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We gave two #1s way too much, thats the Jerry way
Like RW way too much
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Closest player is Ogletree....
He may be active this week. Love to see the kid get some game time. I think he compliments our bigger, slower receivers.
No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.
by Stingah on Oct 6, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Scary our hope is in a undrafted free agent rookie WR
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Undrafted Free Agents--That's like over half of our receiving corps right?
We love undrafted free agents at the WR spot. No point in using an early pick on a WR when we can rely on free agents and trades for them. We like to not waste our early picks, so we stay away from WRs. It’s working great. We like to draft LBs with our first pick, because we never miss on them. Hooray.
by Blammo on Oct 6, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
Ogletree – UFA
Austin – UFA
Hurd – UFA
Crayton – One round removed from being a UFA
This is why we will struggle this year. Denver has now provided the blue print, aggressively play the run and get pressure on the QB. Our receivers cannot get separation and when they do they are probably running the wrong route. Who really knows if Romo’s throws are that bad or if the receivers are in the wrong position.
Jerry has no one to blame but himself going cheap at the WR position.
Garrett needs to get a clue!
by BulletBob on Oct 6, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a reason why they go undrafted
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need to stop that trend and go get a true threat at WR in the draft....
we need to stop messing around with these UFA’s and projects…anyone know who are the top prospects at WR coming out next year?
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 6, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh depending on how bad these WR do its almost certain Jerry goes for a top notch WR in the draft..
Austin, Hurd are on 1 year deals..Crayton is closer to the end of his career than the start of it…we need WR help next year either through the draft or FA..
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 6, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He won't spend a #1 on a WR
He think they are easy to find in later rounds or on the street,but he will give the farm to trade for one. Don’t make sense,but it is Jerry
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
somehow I think that tune will change after this season
Jerry was in love with Crabtree…..depending on the WR he will spend a high draft pick..
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 6, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree = T.O.more trouble than he is worth
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not even close.....Crabtree is a good guy
Alot of false crap about him out there..even Singletary said today he is a good man and there is alot of things about him that aren’t true…..If anyone knows about character it would be singletary…
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 6, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
next draft we'll get 2 more LB in the first 3 rounds, mark my words
you can never have enough high draft bust LB’s on your team
by dcfanz on Oct 6, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ogletree may not be the answer
But at this point he deserves to get a shot. If Roy is out for any amount of time, he’ll have to step up and play. The passing game is all screwed up right now, but its not just Romo.
I’ve noticed that this year we don’t seem to get open all that well and Romo hasn’t been as accurate as he has in the past. Maybe getting Ogletree in could mix it up? Where are the quick slant routes? Garrett should know thats Roy’s route. He’s great on slants yet we never even try them? Those out routes have to go. Too much risk, little reward.
It sucks that we’re watching a team underperform like we have, but we as fans need to support our squad. Sure I can’t stand Wade “no expression unless we make a field goal” Phillips as a head coach, but I also know there isn’t a damn thing I can do about it. There are way too many games to play, and many games to prove ourselves. We’re gonna have plenty of “big” games this year and only time will tell if this team tanks out and finishes 6-10 or puts it all together and rolls into the playoffs at 11-5. Right now its looks like an 8-8 finish to me, but the ’boys still have time to get it all together. Whether they will or not is all up to them.
by jointman13 on Oct 6, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think at the very least...
We can see what the kid has got when it counts. He’s a diiferent style than the receivers we’ve been working with. The experience would be good for him. I’d love it if he WAS the answer, but I’m all about getting him some experience.
No longer drinks Jagermeister because of the Dallas Cowboys.
by Stingah on Oct 6, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We got nothing to lose
give him a look.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Official Explaination on the Video from the Cowboys...
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/10/an-explanation-from-the-cowboys.html
Looks like he was looking at the down marker…
by thejanusman on Oct 6, 2009 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys public relations head Rich Dalrymple sent the following e-mail to explain the confusion resulting from Fox 4 video regarding Tony Romo.
“As Tony was walking off the field after the fourth down play, he saw that the down marker on the Dallas sideline read "3." As it turned out, the marker was in the process of being changed, sequentially, from the number "4" to the number "1" for the Broncos ensuing possession. The marker on the Cowboys side read "3" temporarily. When he saw the "3," he thought there might have been the possibility of an error on the down count. After asking the officials (holding up three fingers), he then saw the down marker move through the progression from 3 to 2 to 1.
He told the offense it was fourth down in the huddle prior to the last play."
by scottmaui on Oct 6, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(laughing sarcastically).....a likely story
Good PR Rich, that’s what they pay you for ;)
by BishopWest on Oct 6, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So everyone who said bad things about Romo take them back.
I bet thats really going to happen.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
he’s a pro QB, for crying out loud, and that was the last play in the f’ing game. a down marker AFTER 4th down fooled him?
by Joey2zs on Oct 6, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he was covering his bases by making absolutely sure it was over. Heaven
forbid he dot his i’s and cross his t’s.
by Fernie67 on Oct 6, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy Williams for Michael Crabtree..........uh and throw in PHILLIPS for SINGLETARY
we will throw in Hurd and Austin…………Austin reminds me of Randall Williams fast and potentially a great wr. But you know what they say about Potential.
Crabtree Oggletree and Crayton our starting trio………….better than Williams, Austin and Crayton………..
Oh…….BTW………..Marty B and Jason W………..should run patterns in the end zone……….Witten has some of the best hands on the team and is Tony Romo’s go to guy……………he should have been in the pattern not blocking………….take one of the three amigo WRs out and line Jason up as WR and put McQ in at TE since FLO was getting toasted………….
This team needs to grow up and Mike Singletary is just the man for the job. Ironically Jerry interviewed Singletary to meet the Rooney rule but didn’t get him when he had the chance.
by Jon B. on Oct 6, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jerry said that Singletary was the best coaching interview he ever had.
So he hired Wade. Another great move by the GM.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets face it...Jerry needs to step down before we can be successful...
most coaches wont come to this team because of Jerry. Jerry at this point is a notch bellow Al Davis….Jerry is part of the problem, let’e be real here…
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 6, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah..but i was trying to be nice...lol
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 6, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never got over the Jimmy firing...
That had to be the most stupid thing an owner or GM has ever done. Maybe with the exception of the Hershell Walker trade and Jimmy pulled that off.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 6, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy wanted out and snubbed JJ in front of some of his old pals.
Then he goes down to Miami to coach a mediocre team.
Que sabe?
Wharter
by Wharter on Oct 6, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keith Brooking to be the first player / head coach
How about it? Sounds like he’s got more will and guts for the Cowboys than any of the coaching staff members.
Or this wonder team: Mike Irvin offensive coordinator. Keith Brooking D-coordinator and Ratliff for head coach. That would be a fun(ny) team to watch.
Seriously, I suppose its not time to panic. We’ve lost two close ones to 4-0 teams. But I choose to panic. Its exciting and painful to be a Cowboys fan. Let the panic commence!
by Eagles suck on Oct 6, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honest Abe's List of QB's better then Romo
Joe Flacco-barely
Matt Ryan-just solid
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Phillip Rivers
Ben R.
Eli
Jay cutler
Carson Palmer
Romo in my honest non-Die Hard Dallas fan opinon is the 11th best QB in the league. Above avg. He could easily go up this least, but he could also go backwards.
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by Wmillion on Oct 6, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I will take Tony every day of the week over Eli and Jay Cutler…
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Oct 6, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler? maybe Romo's better. maybe not
But Eli’s body of work PROVES he’s better. He just is. You can parse some stats if you like to make your case.
But Romo loses when it matters and Eli wins when it matters. Style points don’t count, do they?
by Joey2zs on Oct 6, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to Agree
but its true, Eli vs Romo head to head this year should the difference in their career paths. Eli looked LIKE he was playing pitch and catch out there.Our secondary didn’t even come close to picking off Eli. Romo on the other hand threw 3 picks, with good protection. One throw was just amatuer..
I know it has been overstated, but we need to get on the move. Roll-outs,etc. I would to see some changes, looks like throw to Hurd, let’s get him in there..
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by Wmillion on Oct 6, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what separates them?
Receivers
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 6, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McChoke was fairly successful when he had nobody's for wr's
by scandrick32 on Oct 6, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the coaching staff deserves as much blame as does romo
I believe there holding him back from what he does well….I see him working more from the pockett this year which isnot his strong point..I like too see them use more bootlegs and get tony moving which he seems to thrive on..Now he has missed wide open wr’s and thats not wades or garrets fault but they need to put romo in the best situation where he can succeed. I just do not see them doing that at this point…
by scandrick32 on Oct 6, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at what Cutler
is doing with less talent at every position on offense.
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by Wmillion on Oct 6, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree on Flacco and Eli wholeheartedly
Seattle is cursed. For life.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flacco
and Romo are close, but I think Flacco is legit, and has the slight edge. I think Romo could be the better QB, but at this point I have more confidence in Flacco then Romo.
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by Wmillion on Oct 6, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thinking about it
There is a case to be made. In two years he has not shown the ability to make “WTF?” mistakes and moves like Romo has in 4 years.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And already he's led his team to an AFC Title Game appearance.
Seattle is cursed. For life.
by SSreporters on Oct 6, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on'
I’d take Flacco and never bat an eye
by BishopWest on Oct 6, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's soooo proven
4 good games and BAM, you’re sold! 4 bad games, and BAM, you’re on to the next QB.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 6, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not as fickle as you suggest
Been a Cowboys fan nearly 40 years, thru the good and bad
And I’d still trade Romo for Flacco in a heartbeat
by BishopWest on Oct 6, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Flacco doesn't have the weapons on offense like Romo has remember and is doing pretty good
Who does he have? a 35 yr old Derrick Mason….lol
by Boyzfan94 on Oct 7, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot McNabb.
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 6, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't
I think when McNabb plays he is the better QB, but he just so injury prone.
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by Wmillion on Oct 6, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, how many of those qb's are available?
Name one freaking available qb better than what we have. Name a qb in college better. You just can’t.
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by GunsUp on Oct 6, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take my chances with Colt Mccoy
My point is we were debating Romo being top , now we have to debate if he is top 10, maybe even 15.
Romo has the has the physical ability, he has proven that, but something right now is missing.
You could also debate at this point if A-Rod and Favre are better.
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by Wmillion on Oct 7, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crayton and Hurd both back what Romo and the Cowboys said. I guess
they’re all liars, right? What a ****storm over nothing.
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/10/patrick-crayton-saw-same-thing-as-tony-r.html
by Fernie67 on Oct 6, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
People see what they want to see
A lot of these people here would eat dog crap if the media told them it would make more attractive. Maybe not the first time, but by the second effort they’re in the back yard looking for a freshy from Jake.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 6, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(a sigh of relief)
Tony can count to 4
by BishopWest on Oct 7, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, don't let me keep you from getting hysterical over yet another
non-story.
by Fernie67 on Oct 8, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been hysterical in a while
don’t worry
by BishopWest on Oct 8, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to sollow this loss knowing this
"There are no next times when you're competing for big things." - Tom Izzo
Go Spartans
by msufan23 on Oct 7, 2009 12:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he was faking
So people would think he was mistaken instead of a flat out idiot.
by Cosby Sweater on Oct 7, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo missed his calling as a member of a boy band
Now I completely understand how he could date Jessic.
I wonder if he thinks Chicken of the Sea is Chicken.
by Sharksbreath on Oct 7, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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