A Chat With Arrowhead Pride
I had a chance to tall to Joel Thorman over at Arrowhead Pride, SB Nation's Chiefs blog, about the upcoming game. I wanted to get a Kansas City take on the game and share it with you.
Blogging The Boys: No secret, you guys are off to a poor start. What were the fans expectations of the team coming into the season. Did you see 0-4 as a reality?
Arrowhead Pride: Fans get emotionally involved in the game and forget that our first four games included two teams that were in the conference championship and one that was in the divisional playoffs. It's a really rough start. But combine the loss to the Raiders to the way we've lost some of these games and that's where you get the frustration. It's really starting to boil a little bit because the Chiefs were basically blown out the last two games. The biggest problem is that so much of this seems like a continuation of last year.
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BTB: What are the problems or mistakes that are holding this team back? If you could point to an area and say, "if we could just fix that we might get some victories," what would it be?
AP: Offensive line. I'll admit it - this team has a lot of holes but the offensive line is holding back the running game and in turn the passing game. The Chiefs running backs have been pretty weak since the destruction of the line (after '06). Matt Cassel has also had little time to throw which skews his development as the quarterback, which hurts the receivers....and all of those offensive troubles keep the defense on the field more often. Two, possible three, spots on the offensive line are in need of a replacement/upgrade. Add in the fact that Brian Waters is no spring chicken, and there are some serious problems there.
BTB: If the line had a good day on Sunday, what are the weapons in play that the Cowboys would have to watch for? Is Larry Johnson still a serious threat? Does the passing game have any bite in it?
AP: It's been so long since Larry Johnson was a consistent threat that I don't think he's even a factor anymore. His YPC and number of zero to negative runs are making him a non-factor in game plans. Dwayne Bowe's the one you're going to focus on in the passing game. He's in his third year and, despite a case of the dropsies, has put up 995 yards and 1,022 yards in his first two years which is really good for a young receiver. Jamaal Charles in the flats warrants consideration as someone to keep an eye out for because of his speed. If he gets in the open field he can be dangerous but that's a big if.
BTB: For a long time, I used to think defense when I thought about Kansas City. What's the story on the defense this year?
AP: The defense has really struggled for a while now. The Vermeil years really highlighted that and continued with the Herm Edwards era. The Chiefs are installing a new defense (3-4) so we give them a little leeway. However, there is improvement, especially compared to last year. It's not perfect by any means, and even some key parts are missing, but we see improvement in some areas. It's my thought that in the long run, the change in scheme will greatly help this defense.
BTB: Winless teams are always desperate. Can the Chiefs get the victory?
AP: As I wrote yesterday, I think it all comes down to Tony Romo. The Chiefs need the Cowboys to make mistakes and I think if that happens it'll come from Romo. Problem for the Chiefs is that they've had things go their way before and still lost the game. I think it'll be close either way but ultimately the Cowboys should pull away and win by one score.
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Really hope our Boys can get back on track with this one
Roy being out frightens me a bit, but I think the running game should get back on track. Maybe MartyB has his breakout game in the absence of Roy? You know they’ll do everything they can to take Witten out of the game. Guy’s gotta’ come through sooner or later.
The Chiefs offense doesn’t frighten me vs. the Cowboys D, but if Romo isn’t on his A game, the Chiefs could hang around and shock us.
Still think our guys pull through. Surely Romo has to get over his slump…guy’s too good to play so poorly.
Epic Fail since 1985
by the red scare on Oct 9, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the perfect oppotunity
for Marty B or Miles Austin or SOMEBODY besides the RBs and Witten to make plays.
by MicThaRock on Oct 10, 2009 2:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I've said it before, and I'll say it again
SOMEbody has to step up at WR. Running games will only get you so far, especially if you don’t have a shutdown defense. Once that 8 in the box happens (which didn’t until the passing game has proven to be less potent so far this year), and single coverage is on the WRs, ther HAS to be someone to get some seperation, some connection going with our boy Tony. The only threat through the air right now is Witten, and he is getting bracket coverage up top and underneath most of the time, I think.
On top of that Tony seems to have lost his accuracy and his moxie. Maybe because he doesn’t really trust his WRs to come through for him. Before it was TO and TG and JW, then TO and JW, and now just JW. Even RW isn’t playing up to the number one WR spot, not well enough.
by mdlusk on Oct 10, 2009 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
Miles and Sam Hurd have been working with Romo for too long, it is time we see some results. Let’s go JG, get this WR’s rolling. More slants for Miles, let’s get him on the move, and use his speed.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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by Wmillion on Oct 10, 2009 3:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed
the runup to the denver game but I did see the Bronco fan in here making everyone mad. Is this what will happen if the Chiefs win? And we all know it could happen.
by Elwood62 on Oct 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No, no
We’re generally pretty good….we’ll be too busy proclaiming a Super Bowl victory if we, you know, actually win a game :)
by Joel Thorman on Oct 9, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with all the lowered expectations from the Chiefs, I realy hope
they dont have a breakout game and stun us. I was saying the same thing before the Denver game and everybody was ohhhhh no we will win by 20 points and bla bla bla, Denver was the joke in the offseason, KC is being considered as one of the bad teams in the league, hope there is no trend here relative to the Boys. If we loose it will get very antsy.
by dcfanz on Oct 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone here is writing off ANY team we play this season
But if someone does, the only response I can give is the St. Louis Rams game last year. Yes, Romo was out for that game, but that doesn’t explain their sudden offensive explosion on our defense.
by Joon on Oct 9, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what i find funny is that IMO there are a lot of people here on the is blog that think
this team is not going to lose to KC…..
KC is at home and 0-4…they are going to be stoked for this game….Romo has been cold this year, no Roy Williams, no Felix, Barber on 1 leg, Gurode iffy, Sensi is out – Watkins starting at SS
Haley and Pendergast former coaches
situationally – this could be a spot where they implode or get ambushed by a hungry KC team that smells blood
or we could gut out a tough win like the TB game last year….
IMO its a 50-50 proposition
by McLovin9 on Oct 9, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It’s really hilarious, huh?
That the majority of Cowboys fans on a Cowboys blog would expect the Cowboys to win this game, against a winless Chiefs team with a bad offensive line and going through a rebuilding stage.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 10, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be such a worry wart. Unless you think the Cowboys are just that bad.
Even with those injuries, if the Cowboys lose this one, their depth sucks and maybe they just plain suck. There is nothing good about the Chiefs just like there was nothing good about the Rams last season. If you think the Cowboys are that horrible, say so. Don’t bolster your anxiety attack with this injury and that one.
This is the type of game Bledsoe’s Cowboys would lose. With Romo at the helm, the Cowboys at least beat the awful teams. That’s not much to brag about, but it should quash any worries about laying an egg against KC; injuries or not.
by MadMick on Oct 10, 2009 5:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the Cowboys truly sucked, you'd be right, but they don't
so the odds of the Cowboys blowing out KC is much greater than us losing this game. Romo is way over due for a big game, odds are it comes this Sunday.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 10, 2009 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think they truly suck bro - i know i may seem negative
but i find this spot really worrisome…this is going to be KC’s superbowl….for a team that may win 3-5 games this year – i can really see them letting it all hang out here
i see people here taking the game lightly – i wonder if the Boys are doing the same thing
anyways – we’ll know soon enough
by McLovin9 on Oct 10, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd bet my ass the Boys aren't taking this game lightly
Unfortunately, that doesn’t mean they will win it.
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 10, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
Bbut besides the Ram fiasco when the Man With No Arm was QB and a loss to the Lions and this team has handled their business pretty well against the so-called cellar dweller type teams. Unless the Cowboys are playing drunk or Dwayne Bowe has 300-plus yards receiving I don’t see the Chiefs offense breaking out this week. Cassel is averaging a beyond pedestrian 5.1 YPA and Larry Johnson is averaging a downright pathetic 2.6 YPC. The Chiefs are firing rubber bullets on offense.
Although the scenario you’re probably envisioning is another offensive disasterpiece by Romo and crew that results in a 13-10 loss. I still think the running game is capable enough that the offense should be able to score 17 points.
by MadMick on Oct 10, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the same thing was said about the Carolina too
and they are tons better than KC.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 10, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's on Romo's shoulders
This is a game that could haunt the Cowboys and more specifically Romo. The rest of the team, while not stellar outside of a running game, has been good enough to win. Unfortunately, Romo has been hot and cold and it appears teams are now willing to allow Romo to try and beat them and not take a chance with the running game.
Expect eight (8) in the box and the corners to play close to the line. Without Roy it might get even worse, with the defense daring the Cowboys to throw on them. If their defense can get any pressure on Romo and keep the running game in check, we may need our defense to bail us out and get a pick 6 to win it.
There is a small sliver of hope and that’s Ogletree. While he’s a rookie and a free agent one at that, he’s an unknown to the Chiefs and if he actually gets on the field he might give Romo a fresh target. He runs excellent routes and that can gain the confidence of your quarterback real fast. Just as Witten.
by calmyron on Oct 9, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ogletree?
I’ll consider it a success if he gets more than one or two chances. He’s in his first game and he’s the #4 WR. Don’t expect much.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 10, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
be nice
if Romo and Ogletree developed a security blanket type rhythm. Romo needs to develop that type of rhythm with someone at WR/not named Witten.
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by Wmillion on Oct 10, 2009 3:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he does have that with Crayton
He must also trust Hurd, a lot, judging from last week’s game.
Harry: Huh! I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Lloyd: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver's full of shit, man.
by APerfectStar on Oct 10, 2009 4:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I think Romo needs to be ok with throwing it Crayton or Hurd 4 or 5 times on a drive. You see it all the time, where a WR or TE will play pitch and catch with QB. You rarely see Romo just go to the well until it dries up on a drive. Make them stop it-Take advantage of Crayton’s route running ability.
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by Wmillion on Oct 10, 2009 4:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last week the #4 WR
had a couple of shots in the end zone, remember?
by BishopWest on Oct 10, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an odd game plan.
Hold out hope that you get a pick six to win a damn game? Has that been any team’s gameplan ever? By the way, don’t count on it because Cassel is the most conservative QB the Cowboys have played all year.
by MadMick on Oct 10, 2009 5:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This SHOULD be a decisive victory..
But, this team hasn’t proven in a while that it can simply overwhelm a team with pure talent..
This could easily be a trap game but we’ll know by half time. If the Cowboys can get out to an early lead they can pin their ears back against the pass and eat up that offensive line. But..again..they havn’t proven themselves as a team that can take a team out of the game.
Prediction: Look for Dware and Bradie james to have big games. If the cowboys manage to win the turnover battle they should easily win the game.
Operative word being…SHOULD
Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game as a head coach..he has lost 4 home playoff games.
His longest tenure as head coach was 3 years. His second year with a team only once saw an improved record (by 1 game)
Wade Phillips for DC
by SDTrueblue on Oct 10, 2009 12:18 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
If the Cowboys don't win this game convincingly
then we’re in for a long season. I think Romo breaks out of his funk and has a big game, look for over 300 yards and 3+ TD passes.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 10, 2009 1:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
if we struggle in this one it is time to really lower the expectations.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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by Wmillion on Oct 10, 2009 3:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you mean 400 yards and 5+TD passes?
by MadMick on Oct 10, 2009 5:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not expecting it but would be nice
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Oct 10, 2009 6:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets just win a few games first. Then we can start to go for convincing wins.
Terry You know as well as me if we won this game it wouldnt be enough to silence the critics. Its just the Chiefs.
Im for winning and improving. Thats enough.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Oct 10, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why are they showing this game on NFL network?
Who cares?
by Zak on Oct 10, 2009 1:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was on Fox on Sunday at 1 EST
by mdlusk on Oct 10, 2009 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s a classic game, drew bledsoe is at qb and keith davis and laroi glover are on the defense
Who cares?
by Zak on Oct 10, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot how well Marion Barber played in that game.
by illcowboy on Oct 10, 2009 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Great
to see MBIII in his pre-barbarian incarnation and Witten as well. DWare, etc. I caught glimpses of Romo on the sidelines, hat forward of course. I’m also quite jealous of the coaching staff we had back then. Maybe not BP as much.
"You have to have a stronger belief in yourself than the disbelief of others."
Antonio Ramirez Romo
by Far Rider on Oct 10, 2009 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do
miss Parcells on the sidelines … a little. and I forgot how much I actually liked Terry Glenn, and how bad I wish we had something like him now.
by what_the_crap on Oct 10, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ogletree!
Keep the faith!
Summarizing the Dallas Cowboys in two words; inconsistently amazing.
by sublimezg on Oct 10, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch him have like 8 catches and a score
and the next time we see the Cowboys, he will be inactive.
There's somethin' happenin' here...what it is ain't exactly clear...
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 11, 2009 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glenn by far had the best back-to-back seasons of his career as a Cowboy....
In ‘05 and ’06. For the first nine years of his career , he’d only had two other thousand-yard receiving seasons. He basically rejuvenated his career as a Cowboy. Too bad his rejuvenation didn’t last longer.
by MadMick on Oct 10, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember when Big Bill gave Todd Haley...
the get back shove when Bill was screaming at a ref and Haley came up to put in his 2 cents. I still LMAO when I see it .
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 10, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they need to show the 1995 game
between us and them. That thanksgiving game was thought of as a pre-Superbowl matchup and if not for an inept kicker named Lin Elliot (heh), the Chiefs probably would have played the Cowboys in Super Bowl 30. As it is though, I still enjoy beating the Steelers in that SB more than I would any other AFC team
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Oct 10, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Novacek went off in that game.
And Irvin had that nice one-handed TD grab.
There's somethin' happenin' here...what it is ain't exactly clear...
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by Aaron Novinger on Oct 11, 2009 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
plus, although we didnt get to see it, Aikman going off on Skip Bayless after that game was hilarious
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
by hinduplaya on Oct 11, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have
the same feeling now that I did right before the Bucs game …. that could be a good thing.
by what_the_crap on Oct 10, 2009 8:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo needs a big game...
His stock in the NFL is at an all time low. He is thought of as a flash in the pan by alot of players and coaches in the NFL. You know that must eat at him. Its up to him to prove them wrong and this week is a good time to start. I really hoped we had a QB in place for the next 10 years, I guess we will find out soon enough.
by DIRE WOLF on Oct 10, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He just needs a win.
Lets start small and rebuild his confidence.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Oct 10, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
accuracy improvement would be nice
There's somethin' happenin' here...what it is ain't exactly clear...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Oct 11, 2009 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your team made it to KC minus Williams and Jones.
Unseasonably chilly here today. High was 39, 33 wind chill. High tomorrow here will be 48 and partly cloudy for game day.
Here’s to no injuries for either team. I of course hope that we win, even if “It’s just the Chiefs” as was said above. Very much looking forward to seeing the Chiefs in the throwback uniforms.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Oct 10, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed On The No Injuries
and no hard feelings either way. But for sure, the pads will be a popping!
"You have to have a stronger belief in yourself than the disbelief of others."
Antonio Ramirez Romo
by Far Rider on Oct 10, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hear, hear. A good clean fight, and may the best team win.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Oct 11, 2009 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We got no reason to say that but I think it has more to do with you guys actually being in
a rebuilding mode. that and your QB coming back from injury. You guys do have talent and I think Todd Haley will get them straight.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Oct 11, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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