Hurd>Soy
I told ya'll about Hurd. Soy blows. Hurd should get equal snaps. He was in 5 plays and scored. Soy had 5 screw ups! Wake up and take off your bias blinders people! How does Soy just keep gettin the reps when he screws up 2 of 3 plays? 17 games is way more than anyone should need to get on the same page. Austin and Hurd were developmental players from small schools so don't hive me this crap about being patient. Soy has had way more than enough time. Face it, the guy isn't that good. Cut our losses and go after someone else after the season.
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I'll admit that there is something wrong
with the Romo to Roy connection. That said, Williams is a much better WR than Hurd. For some reason the results just aren’t there though.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 1, 2009 4:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wake up emmitt
Anyone knows that a player who was traded for by giving up 2 high draft picks and is paid big bucks is going to play
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 4:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How much time do you give it?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as much time as Jerry gives it
I wasn’t in favor of this trade last season, but Jerry made it and now we have to live with it. Jerry will only release him when the cap hit won’t be big.
I think Jerry gives him this year and next, it other receivers prove to be better, then he’ll relaease him at that time…maybe.
Jerry really likes him and thats why he won’t be removed from the starting lineup
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that the problem?
Jerry really likes him and thats why he won’t be removed from the starting lineup
Shouldn’t the guy who gives the team the best chance to win be in the starting lineup?
Like I said elsewhere, I don’t watch college football, so I can only judge Roy on what he has done here, and so far that is nothing.
This trade will not be viewed as one sided as the Herschel Walker trade, but if present trends continue, it wil be in the top ten of lousy trades.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In an ideal world
but economics won’t allow that and plus Jerry doesn’t want to own up that the trade might have been a huge bust
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
economics
it is a sunk cost at this point. Much like Raf argues that the play of Austin offsets the Roy trade, why should it matter if Hurd plays ahead of Soy?
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 1, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
because Jerry doesn't want to see
his 45 million dollar player that he gave up 2 high draft picks for sitting on the bench.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you have a problem with that?
I’m not saying that Hurd is the answer or that Roy should be benched (though I am coming around on that).
By that logic, Romo never would have started over Bledsoe, because Bledsoe was being paid so much more.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
only if there was a receiver behind him that is better
and IMO Crayton, Hurd or Olgetree are not better than RW.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But that is not what you said
You said it was because Jerry had to much invested in Roy and likes ROy and that Jerry was not going to let Roy sit on the bench.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats right
thats why RW will always start, however, I was simply answering your question if I had a problem with it.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So now this is my question: Are you ok with that being Jerry's decision making process?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
He owns the team, he has the right to run the team as he sees fit, I would do the same thing if I owned the team.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the straight answer
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Seriously?
Tony and Roy just need to figure it out. Roy is a damn good ball player. There’s just a misfire on something. It can’t be all Romo’s fault; I would never say it was. But, these two just need to develop a bit more chemistry and then it will further develop our O into a great one.
We need Roy. Wake up Emmitt.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
by HudBaby on Nov 1, 2009 4:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 1, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Romo has played with AUstin, Crayton and Hurd for 3-4 years now. I say give it some time.
The trade may not look good but i still believe Roy will be a solid weapon for this offense.
by foyesboys on Nov 1, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If by solid,
you mean poop and not diaharea (sp?)
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"These two just need to develop a bit more chemistry .."
And the dreaded they need to get “in sync”….
(Are they starting a Boy Band?)
C’mon-the post is ridiculous in calling for Hurd to start for RW, but how long do you make this excuse??
Let me tell you something-if the Boys had lost these last two games you guys wouldn’t be so patient.
And when one of these “miscommunications” leads to an interception-
which they will against good teams like, I don’t know, Philly and Green Bay,
then you won’t be apologizing for RW.
I like his attitude, the blocking, but this can’t keep happening so much. Once a game, but these 2 are pro’s and they and the coaches (with Kitna helping) need to solve this.
Which isn’t to say it might not be Romo’s fault sometimes, we don’t know.
by Realist Larry on Nov 1, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say Hurd should start
I just said he is better than Soy. Crayton should start
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Crayton is a better slot receiver actually
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Have him move inside on 3 wr sets
I think Crayfish is one of the better slot guys in the league
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Crayton in the slot
but you make a valid point that in a couple of weeks, esp. if they lose a couple in a row, they need to do what helps them win-
and if that means sit Williams and play Hurd/Ogletree, so be it.
by Realist Larry on Nov 1, 2009 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Emmitt is awake and alert
Soy and Romo are not just not on the same page, they are not even in the same book. It says a lot that Romo never gave Soy his phone number. He didn’t want to call him and have his call get dropped.
by D3R3K on Nov 1, 2009 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
All you longhorn fans wake up
He has gotten rich and lazy. He looks like the slowest player on the field. He doesn’t make any tough plays. D3r3k gets it. so based on your rationale Soy>Austin because we gave up draft picks? The guys BBBBBLLLLOOOOWWWSSSS!
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Meant the guy
BLOWS!!!! Thanks GuyBlow! My name is Shiloh
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm an OK State alum
I EFFing hate the Horns (see box score from yesterday)
I cheer for Roy because he’s a Cowboy. He didn’t trade himself.
Try rooting for your team.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
by HudBaby on Nov 1, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do
Thats why I want the best playmakers on the field
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It ain't Hurd
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
by HudBaby on Nov 1, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he is rooting for his team, he just wants to see that team be in the best position to win
I don’t watch college football so I have no idea what Roy did at UT. Thus far in Dallas, he has shown me absolutely nothing.
Put it this way, if the guy had not cost the team way too many draft picks, and way too much money, how much longer would he be here? Gone at the end of this season, based on his production to this point
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he does no better, I'll be calling for his head
At the END of the season.
Treat the man like a Cowboy.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
by HudBaby on Nov 1, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do treat him like a Cowboy, he is just a particularly lousy cowboy
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 Hud
Our OSU Pokes didn’t play very well last night, and didn’t get any help from the refs.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 1, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's still better than T.O.
he actually blocks and doesn’t moan when he doesn’t get the ball
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 1, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you always on Owens jock?
~Texas Massacre '09~
by TheHeat on Nov 1, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-1
HOF Wide Receiver vs a potential #1. There is no comparison, I really dont get your hatred of Owens. He left, get over it.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 1, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
love the sophomoric humor
Hurd twice in a row at Denver worked out well, didn’t it?
When Tony masters the slant and fade (like he’s mastered every other throw) then Roy’s value will become more apparent. I like the fact that Tony says how hard Roy works in practice.
This is going to happen.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
by HudBaby on Nov 1, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Just give it time
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 1, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you actually noticed
Austin was wide open twice and Romo made bad reads. Not saying Hurd is a number one, but he runs great routes and cacthes it if not blanket covered by the best corner of the decade
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed he couldn't get open
I’d rather see KO than Hurd.
You are nuts if you think Hurd is better than Roy E.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
by HudBaby on Nov 1, 2009 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you guys defending this bum?
I don’t get it. At least Hurd is also a great sp. teams guy. Roy wastes a roster spot
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 4:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Because it's not talent or effort, it's some sort of terrible route adjustment problem
which I’ve never seen in the pro’s before.
If they can get their reads and adjustments straight-
or, here’s a concept, just run the route called-
RW could add something to this offense.
But on the other hand, there’s no excuse for it and the people saying “give it time” must have set their watches back 6 months last night, because it’s been
A YEAR!
by Realist Larry on Nov 1, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen anything like this in the pros before either.
Really, really weird how off Romo and Roy are with each other.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 1, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
RW needs to sit
He is cutting off the routes short, running to deep on routes and not continuing routes. Even worse he is not fighting for the ball when he is not getting separation. He made a nice play on the TD and he is blocking. But overall he is awful and the boys should give his spot to someone else. I am not saying cut him. He has talent. But something is wrong RW. Maybe sitting will help, because I would much rather see Hurd or Ogletree than RW.
by cowboy1966 on Nov 1, 2009 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
1300 yards in a season with Detroit
Therefore, we know he has talent….
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 1, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which he did once, and has never come close before or since
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think talentless receivers put up those types of numbers, even if just once?
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 1, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some guys have career years and never approch those heights again. You have witnessed that before, right?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure...
But do the change in stats somehow reflect a change in talent level? I severely doubt that William’s deviation in his statistical performance can be traced back to the fact that his personal talent level varies from year to year. It instead can probably be determined by how his overall offense is playing, if he is healthy, what type of QB he has, etc. I just refuse to believe that a guy who puts up 1300+ in a year is suddenly a scrub. He has never had a season-ending injury or some dampener like that, so to me he is still a talented guy. Now, do I believe he could be a consistent 1300+ receiver? Nope. I do however believe he can be a 1000 yard, 8 TD kind of guy once him and Tony get on the same page. This is largely based off the fact that most of his years in Detroit were either in the 800’s (not all seasons at full health) or at 1300. Therefore, I believe the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Is that worth a first and a third? Maybe not, but as long as Austin keeps up his growth, it won’t matter much since we will have a stud passing game for a while.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 2, 2009 12:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At least
Michael Irvin, Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, and Deion agree with me. I’ll settle for 4 hall of famers opinions
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 4:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sick of Roy too
But do not drop Emmitt, Michael, or Deion’s names as analysts. Those three are some of the worst I have ever seen (up there with Keyshawn, Ditka, and Chris Carter). I’ll give Aikman more more credibility, he is not bad at all. Basically if you are gonna pay attention to the mainstream media Tom Jackson and John clayton are the only guys who have a clue of what they are talking about.
by witten82 on Nov 1, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The point I am making is....
for them to turn on one of their own, the guy must blow. How many other cowboys have you seen them turn on? They even supported T-whO
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree he has been bad
I don’t know what it is though. He is extremely athletic. I always sensed that he has a really poor attitude, and I guess it just carries over to his play. Whatever it is, he needs to fix it. But Romo has been playing really well with Austin, Hurd, and Crayton, but one more weapon couldn’t hurt.
by witten82 on Nov 1, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Emmitt also said we're a horrible team and we're going 7-9 this year
by Joon on Nov 1, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bingo
just because you’re a HOF doesn’t mean that your opinion is 100% right.
by what_the_crap on Nov 1, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They never remotely agreed with you...
None of them said that Roy was worse than Hurd. None of them said he was a bum. They simply criticized the amount the Cowboys gave up for him. And Drew Pearson has defended Roy’s talent as a WR so I feel pretty good about my position.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 1, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They all think he blows
And they are all right. Take the blinders off guys. How can you think Roy is good and consider yourself an educated football fan
How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!!
by emmitt22 on Nov 1, 2009 6:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, nobody thinks he is good right now.
The guys here a just staying patient with him while the other WRs get their connections in order. If he can come around, that would make the Cowboys all the better.
They’re looking real good at the position if Roy is their worst player there.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 1, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*are just
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 1, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 1, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually still believe he is talented...
I just don’t think him and Tony have built that confidence in one another and therefore the final product doesn’t come near to matching its full potential.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 1, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially considering Hurd and Austin and Romo were all practically born together as Cowboy scrubs.
Kinda seems like RW has alot of making up to do. He’s always cramming for the final when he’s got exams and a midterm to prep for.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 2, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we get it
you hate Roy. He hasn’t been good at all in Dallas. But you saying that Sam Hurd is “better” than Roy Williams is just as dumb as saying Roy has been good. Please.
We get it, you don’t like him. But good god, the Cowboys are 5-2 RIGHT NOW!!! That’s all that matters. If Roy Williams never justifies that trade, oh well, as long as the Cowboys win, that’s what matters in the long run.
and Hurd isn’t better than Roy. Child, please.
by what_the_crap on Nov 1, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it really looks like you've all been trolled.
that’s sad.
by falconPUNCH on Nov 1, 2009 8:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like Hurd a lot, but I don't think he's better than Roy
Romo and Roy just need more time to work on routes that Roy is good at. It’s way too soon to give up on the guy. But I did like how they got every WR involved during the game.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 1, 2009 8:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have to say...
This whole “Soy” thing is pretty damn lame. I’m glad you’ve tried to create some Cowboy-Internet meme, but damn, it’s not even that funny….
Aside from that, the statement that Hurd should be getting RW’s snaps is friggin’ ridiculous. Hurd had a decent catch/move in today’s game, but to say he is a better WR than RW is just…. For lack of a better word, stupid. Sam Hurd is NOT a better WR than Roy.
It’s certainly taking longer than we’d all like it to (Roy’s production), but I’d much rather see Roy lined up wide than Hurd. Money/Draft picks or not, Roy IS the better of the two.
We’re 5-2 (And rolling quite well) right now, damn it.
by tkosmith on Nov 1, 2009 9:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hurd may not be better, but Roy is not exactly lighting it up
and the Soy meme is funny
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The way things are going right now....
We don’t need Roy to be “Lighting it up”.
We need him to go out there, move the chains, and score a TD every now and again.
Is the issue that he’s not on pace for 1,500 yards and 20 TD’s? Why set the lofty goals? Why not accept that, perhaps this injury is affecting his play more than he’d (or anyone within the organization) would let on?
I accept Roy because I don’t want him to put up #1 numbers. We don’t need him to put up #1 numbers. We need him to contribute, and right now, he’s contributing.
And before you jump all over the price tag for a “#1 Wideout”, remember that one of those picks might have been invested on a WR, and there is no guarantee he’d be better than Roy E.
Draft picks can be a crapshoot (See: Bobby Carpenter) and there is no guarantee that they will perform up to their “expectations”. I’m happy with Roy. I’m happy with the team we have. Bring on those damn Eagles.
by tkosmith on Nov 1, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because all I have heard is how talented Roy is
and I have seen nothing, absolutely nothing, on the field to justify such talk
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is barely contributing
for the amount he is on the field. A street free agent would put up the same numbers if given the chance to start.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 1, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What do you consider "barely contributing"?
He caught a TD today. I’d call that more than “barely contributing”.
He didn’t catch 10 passes for 250 yards, so obviously, he is a bum.
by tkosmith on Nov 1, 2009 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
10 for 250 is going to be his season at this rate
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 1, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are 100% correct
Catching that short TD pass today makes up for everything.
Did I suggest that the standard is 10 for 250? Where exactly? Find that post for me so everyone can see.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 2, 2009 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think even you would have to agree that a YPC of 25.0 at least shows the potential is there.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 2, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And ultimately
that is what this whole debate comes down to. Do you or do you not believe that Roy has the potential to be a good-great WR (once him and Romo get on the same page) and therefore deserves to still start? Personally, I do since I believe that someone who puts up 1300+ yards in a season is definitely a talented guy.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 2, 2009 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Was I the only one that was extremely upset with Roy's blocking today???????
by rioplayer7 on Nov 1, 2009 10:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was pedestrian
considering his strengths are supposed to be blocking and drawing double teams.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 1, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he looked pathetic on a number of blosks
All i have heard is he is a good blocker and has all the assets, but I have not seen one thing from him that makes me believe he will ever be good for us
by rioplayer7 on Nov 2, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seanrude
Go away, stat-boy. The greater the success of Austin, Witten, Choice, Barber, Jones, Bennett, et. al., the better RW will be.
Argue whatever you want. It isn’t about stats — it’s about TEAM.
No need to argue now. We’re on a run, RW did his part today, and there are opportunities coming.
So sit down, K?
by dfan77 on Nov 2, 2009 3:38 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Austin, Witten, Choice, Barber, Jones are playing well
Roy W. is not. Stats are how you measure the performance of an individual player, esp. a WR. The gaping black hole in this offense is the production of the alleged #1 WR. The TEAM would be so much better if Roy was playing well. He is not doing so. Why do you have a problem with pointing that out?
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 2, 2009 5:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And since he has played bad for 1 year
it is not unreasonable to ask for him to sit.
by cowboy1966 on Nov 2, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous post.
Individual stats contribute to team results. If you have a weak link, the chain will break.
The more RW or any other non-productive player is in there, the more opportunities that are taken from productive players. I would have much preferred to see Choice and Jones get some of RW’s opportunities yesterday.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 2, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting point...
But you have to balance future gains in that equation as well. By allowing Romo and Roy to work together more often than perhaps their productivity warrants you improve the chance that they can get on the same page by giving them more game experience working together. For instance, if Tony and Roy never even try to connect, you wouldn’t have them discussing their issues on the sideline. While it may be hard to swallow, it is certainly in the best interest of the Cowboys for Romo and Roy to get on the same page and keeping him involved at some level helps the chance of that happening.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't this similar to the argument aginst cutting Stanback?
Basically they’re betting on Williams’ potential based on his physical skills rather than his play. As has been pointed out elsewhere, he’s been here a year now and STILL isn’t on the same page as the QB that he is supposedly working so hard with all the time.
Obviously the Cowboys can’t cut bait due to his monster contract, but I’m not sure how him not producing and dropping passes is much different than the other guy that we had here not producing and dropping passes that still counts against the cap. Maybe sitting Roy down for a game will give him a chance to observe and figure out the offense.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 3, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right...
The argument of future gains for Williams is very similar to the argument for keeping Stanback. The difference though is that Roy has shown that he can play at a high level when healthy and in-sync with his offense while Stanback was still trying to even see a NFL field in a non-ST role. And while I understand the desire for him to start immediately producing, I think for now the best thing to do is give it more time. I believe this because the more and more you minimize his role (which is already nowhere near last year’s #1 receiver’s involvement), the greater chance that him and Romo never get on the same page and therefore make the trade a full bust. Plus, since Romo and this offense is already emphasizing spreading the ball around, I don’t think it is necessary to sit him to send a message since he knows that he has to do a good job personally to get more involved.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 4, 2009 1:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And that post was ridiculous more for the tone than the content.
As much as I disagree with what they said, I had the bigger problem with the way that they said it.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 3, 2009 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand why it matters..
The passing game looks great right now. Miles is looking more and more like a young T.O. (without the attitude), and Romo has just had 3 straight multiple TD no Ints games (clear signs that he moving steadily closer to his prime).
Who gives a sh&t were the production is coming from. I don’t care if one guy cost the team "X" amount of dollars and draft pics while the other cost them nothing. It’s not my money, so what do I care. I’m just happy that the passing game is looking as good as it did in ’07 at this juncture.
I’m a lot more concerned about the lack of a running game that past few games than I am an individual receiver accomplishments. In terms of winning a Super Bowl, big time production from the 3-headed monster is a lot more important than Roy E, Hurd or Olgetree
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
by gee-roj on Nov 2, 2009 8:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree...well said, dude.
RE: the running game…it seems that Garrett has just focused on getting the air attack in order since the running game was doing just fine the first 4 games. Maybe he’s trying to strike a balance in an unbalanced week-to-week way, if that makes sense.
Assuming that this trend continues, when December comes, the running game will be featured more and all three runners should be healthy and better pass-blockers from all the experience.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 2, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it is nice that the Cowboys are winning,
but what about the future? We should not sit idly with an overpaid underperforming WR. We should look at all of our options now and consider what our actions should be in the future. Can anyone point me to another QB-WR combo that took this long to get on the same page? And can anyone give me an example of a QB-WR that took this long to get on the same page and went on to produce great results together?
Soy needs to sauce up the bench.
by D3R3K on Nov 2, 2009 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Answer to this question.....
And can anyone give me an example of a QB-WR that took this long to get on the same page and went on to produce great results together?
……..is no
Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden
by BishopWest on Nov 2, 2009 10:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps that is the truth
but as Miles Austin demonstrated, chemistry and confidence is something that can be very fickle. One week against the Broncos Romo won’t even look his way in the redzone. In the next three weeks Austin puts up 400+ yards. Hopefully Roy and Romo will have a similar light go off (remember, Roy owns the Eagles in his career).
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 4, 2009 1:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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