FISH on FOOTBALL: The Cowboys Stand For Everything That Is FIRST In The NFC East
by Mike Fisher on Nov 10, 2009 12:00 AM CST
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John Harbaugh, the Ravens coach formerly with Philadelphia, has a quote recently revealed in an Eagles-centric book that goes, "The Cowboys stand for everything that is wrong with the NFL.''
My response? If winning five Super Bowls is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
An assortment of post-Philly reflections on a Cowboys team that at this moment stands for everything that is first in the NFC East:
* Few teams make big plays like the Eagles offense makes big plays. McNabb is a quick-strike/deep-strike talent. Jackson catches nothing but 50-yard gainers, and I mean that as a compliment. Even the running back, Westbrook, seems when healthy like a home-run threat on every touch.
But what the Eagles do not do - and I think this was critical to the Cowboys' 20-16 victory at Philly on Sunday night - is sew together multiple series of little plays.
That's not an offensive team capable of grinding you down, of setting up third-and-2's, of facing a good defense (which Dallas certainly is right now) and pulling off a few eight-play/80-yard/eight-minute drives. They are explosive and they are scary, but an over-reliance on 50-yard pass plays means that when they aren't there, the Eagles lose. ..
The Eagles managed just two plays of 20-plus yards. So the Eagles lost.
* Now, compare that to what the Dallas offense did on a trio of late-game third-downs.
Third-and-2 with 2:02 left, a "little play'' for a first-down for Witten.
Before that, third-and- 13 with 8:13 left, and maybe because of Dallas' penchant for "little-play'' success, Philly bites on a pump fake and Romo lofts a beauty to Austin for a 49-yard catch-run-and-score.
Romo's passing on Sunday on third downs? He was 9-of-11. That's nine, nice "little plays.'' ...
* Jerry Jones catches a lot of hell for the swing-for-the-fences personnel moves that don't work out, but I think we take for granted the at-bats that do work out. Example: Jay Ratliff. Came from nowhere. Paid big money while on the cusp of reaching his peak. Now doing so while playing at an All-Pro level. Disbelievers, go watch the Philly-Dallas tape. The kid is taking on blockers as nose tackles must yet doing things not unlike what Vikings DT Kevin Williams does. And that's All-Pro level.
* I thought Felix ran way too "careful'' on kick returns. Was he trying to hit homeruns on every touch? Was he protecting a wound? Somebody needs to tell Felix that a north-south approach that allows the Cowboys decent field-position starts, say, at the 30, is advantage enough. ...
* I'm going to assume that clock operator in Philly doesn't even know how to Fall Back and Spring Forward because his work was an embarrassment to the league. You get home-towned on the clock in high school, not in the NFL.
* Some people might consider the unbalanced line to be a "High-School Harry'' trick. And indeed, when I coached kids, we did it all the time. Flipped our right tackle over to the left side - especially if that was the wide side of the field - and ran left. The other team had to know it was coming ... but they still had to consider staying balanced on defense and they still had to contend with my best blockers all pushing people around in front of the ballcarrier.
It's not a gimmick - it can be a staple. Besides, I dare you to tell Marc Colombo to his face that he's a "gimmick.''
And that's how to exorcise memories of 44-6. ...
* The defensive coordinator of this team - and his players - are starting to come up pretty big in mano-a-mano moments. Dallas had a large fourth-down stop in Denver that didn't result in a win. But Brooking-vs.-Nabb on fourth-and-1? That's practice, gameplanning, preparation and want-to.
Advantage, Cowboys. ...
Now, rookie defender Victor Butler grabbing McNabb's toe to prevent a third-down conversation and creating a situation where Philly never again got the ball back? I'm not sure how you plan for Victor Butler to grab McNabb's toe.
But whatever ... Advantage, Cowboys, again.
* I know conventional wisdom has it that Andy Reid is a genius and Wade Phillips is a doofus. But when Reid decided to kick a field goal with four minutes left to cut the lead to four - while the Eagles, I believe, had no timeouts remaining?
Goes to show you, sometimes everybody is a doofus.
* Roy Williams' positive reaction to Miles Austin's game-sealing TD catch in Philly was suitable for framing. Once all the talk and all the fake controversy was quieted, Roy was the embodiment of what your mama used to say about your character: "It's measured by how you behave when nobody is looking.''
Oh, and five-for-75 was helpful, too.
* Who does Michael Vick play for again? And why?
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Seeing Dallas in 1st is sooooooooo sweet!
Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden
by BishopWest on Nov 10, 2009 12:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1000000000
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Nov 10, 2009 12:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
"Aw Shucks" - Wade Phillips
by MrMinority on Nov 10, 2009 12:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Victor even had his toe. More like his toenail.
This was a game of millimeters, not inches. Miss that tackle and…let them convert on fourth and 1 and…let them convert on that attempt to draw offsides and…Tony turns his head just a few more notches to the right and spots Witten and…if Gerald Sensabaugh still has a cast on his hand on that tipped interception and…
This one was as close as it can get without a last-second field goal attempt when one side is down by 2 or 1.
by mdlusk on Nov 10, 2009 2:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
What I liked about that tackle was
he didn’t just swing his arm and get lucky. he took a swing and missed and then reached up and grabbed his foot deliberately. it’s a thing of beauty. Years from now it’ll simply be known as “The Shoestring” as Butler is tearfully inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 7:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nostradamus didn't get where he is today
by guessing gumballs in a jar. You have to dream big!
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Telling Stat: Dallas converted 7 of 15 third-day plays (47%) - the Eagles only 4 of 12 (33%)
The 7 conversions are a thing of beauty
3rd and 8 – Romo pass to Roy W. for 21
3rd and 6 – Romo pass to Witten for 9
3rd and 9 – Romo pass to Ogletree for 21
3rd and 14 – Romo pass to Ogletree for 17
3rd and 1 – Barber run for 3
3rd and 14 – Romo pass to Austin for 49 TD
3rd and 3 – Romo pass to Witten for 5
Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden
by BishopWest on Nov 10, 2009 2:44 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I was wrong
Four weeks ago I said that it was unlikely that the Cowboys could catch the Giants and Eagles.
Now I will say it is unlikely that the Eagles and Giants will catch the Cowboys.
What a strange four weeks it has been and we have half a season to go!
by G Fan in England on Nov 10, 2009 5:19 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Aye, with league parity, predictions over time are quite tricky.
You had reason to say than then, but I’d have to say I prefer the way Cowboys are trending than Giants.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Nov 10, 2009 6:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 7:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+2
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 10, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+3
Is playing smart too much to ask?
by silverblue5 on Nov 10, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 11, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The longest chain ever
without name calling
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 11, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
I just had deja vu
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 11, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aye, with league parity, predictions over time are quite tricky.
You had reason to say than then, but I’d have to say I prefer the way Cowboys are trending than Giants.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Nov 10, 2009 6:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 7:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+2
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 10, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+3
Is playing smart too much to ask?
by silverblue5 on Nov 10, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 11, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The longest chain ever
without name calling
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 11, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
I just had deja vu
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 11, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not so sure
As Angus says, it’s pretty hard to know even at the halfway mark. The Giants may be coming out of the doldrums – they looked to be about 80% back last Sunday – and the Eagles are a very good team.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 7:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And furthermore.........
While giving Jerry Jones credit on a good at bat on Jay Ratliff, he deserves one too on his commitment to the WR’s already here. He said he thought the talent was on the roster and so far he’s being proven right.
by StillHateTheGiants on Nov 10, 2009 6:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking that during the game
not just the obvious Austin, Williams and Crayton, but also role players like Hurd and future starters like The Ogletree.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 7:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would trust everyone of those guys now
And I’m totally on the Ogletree bandwagon. I think he is going to be a star. Something about him caught my eye from the first time I saw him in preseason. I grabbed the pom poms and haven’t been able to put them down. I hope they continue to get him on the field so the process can happen sooner rather than later.
by StillHateTheGiants on Nov 10, 2009 7:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, you still want a WR with our 1st Round pick?
It still amazes me that come draft time, there will be a HUGE din that we need a real #1.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
by Fighter15 on Nov 10, 2009 8:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless someone gets hurt
i think the din will have died completely.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Best player available.
Or OL, S, DL, maybe ILB?
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 10, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im thinking Oline an Dline.
We are getting a little old up front. Im also leaning toward extending Spears.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 10, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, probably just start getting younger at certain positions.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 10, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
O-line or D-line
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 11, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's going to be some DT depth in this year's draft.
OL may have to be a top three rounds consideration, and ILB is looking a little skimpy to me right now.
But while we’re patting JJ on the back for some personnel moves, let’s give it up for the scouting department, too. They’ve done a good job these last couple of years, and we’re starting to see some glimpses that this year’s draft may turn out alright, too.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
by 24Hz on Nov 10, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A few weeks back,
people were saying we were in dire need of a QB. I’d like to see a few mea culpas from those people.
I think you pick the best player available. What’s funny is that I would like to see players with attitude that scare opposing players. The kid from Florida who did the eye gouge… I’d be ok with the Cowboys taking him in the 1st or 2nd. He may be gone by that point, but talented and furious on the field… that’s a combo that works for me.
by jdramirez on Nov 10, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no way, his mind is a mesh, why would you even consider eye gouging
anger management issues screaming from every ware.
by dcfanz on Nov 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a cheap play that happens in those pile ups
But, he overrode his coaches punishment (which was a half game suspension), and said he thought he should be suspended the full game, and he apologized to the other team, and the specific player. That’s a pretty mature move on his part.
Not to mention he’s one of the top 2 or 3 ILB’s in the nation.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 11, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We probably need a lineman the most
But I would love to get Brandon Spikes, someone with as much raw emotion and leadership as Brooking to take over once he retires.
by Joon on Nov 10, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
isn't he the same guy that got suspended
for gouging someone in the eye? Ouch
by texstar on Nov 10, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely OL
Seeing as we have pretty much no known depth (depending on if Free can really play). Hamlin doesn’t look so bad with Sensi back there.
by selke99 on Nov 12, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was impressed too
he runs excellent routes (he and Romo were immediately in sync which is almost always a credit to the WR), catches the ball really well, and he is fast and elusive. I really think he can be the team’s Terry Glenn or Wes Welker going into the future.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was impressed too
he runs excellent routes (he and Romo were immediately in sync which is almost always a credit to the WR), catches the ball really well, and he is fast and elusive. I really think he can be the team’s Terry Glenn or Wes Welker going into the future.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Heard ya the 1st time
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 11, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was impressed
with his speed and elusiveness, at first glance I thought that was Felix on the reverse.
by grey9er on Nov 10, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that too
and then everyone gave me the eye when I realized who it was and jumped up yelling “OGLETREEEEEEEEE!!!”
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
funny.........
I thought it was Felix on the screen as well because I wasn’t expecting Ogletree to be in there. Now, Garrett needs to creat some plays where the opposing defenses don’t shut him down because they are ready for him. We need to get him more involved where we can set up these kind of big plays
by texstar on Nov 10, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget Tom C. and our scouting department
You’ll never see the MSM do an extended story on the late round draft steals and undrafted free agents our current team has put together the last several years.
They feel viewership would be greater if they spewed exaggerated negative stories on America’s Team rather than a true inspiring piece on how da King has changed and helped rebuild/reload the modern-day Cowboys with important players who were unheralded rookies or obtaining vets whose stock have plummeted.
productive players from mid-to-late-round draft picks/undrafted free agents
- Romo
- Ratliff
- Crayton
- Austin
- Scandrick
- Hurd
- Ogletree
- Bowen
- Hatcher
- D. Anderson
- Choice
- Butler
- Folk
vets whose stock had plummeted (acquired either as free agents or trade on da cheap):
- Brooking
- Olshansky
- K. Hamlin (another former high draft pick — with Seattle — who suffered a career-threatening injury, but in his case, life threatening outside a night club… and King Jerry gave him a chance)
- Sensabaugh
- Kitna
- Colombo (a former 1st round pick with Chicago who suffered a potentially career-threatening injury… but we gave him a second chance and gave him time to turn it around)
- Kosier
- L. Davis (he was a high draft pick, but the media soured on him in Zona and Jerry was publicly criticized when Dallas signed him)
Think about how resourceful you have to be as a front office — and how much you have to trust them (if you were da King) — to get great value out of the players mentioned above while staying under the cap for almost a decade now.
It’s a testament to the FRONT OFFICE AS A WHOLE. From King Jerry, Stephen, Tom Ciskowski, the scouts, the coaches, etc… all working together with a system of acquiring and developing player personnel on a year-to-year basis — and having them be competitive on the field.
It took all of this for me to forgive Jerry Jones for firing Jimmy Johnson. Even when he made the deal to land Roy E. Williams (three draft picks — one of which was a first rounder) in a trade with Detroit… it was because we had so many picks in the ’09 draft.
Of course, you won’t hear that part harped on by the media. No. It draws more viewers to lambast Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys if the mediots extensively emphasized the sillines of trading 3 picks for 1 WR.
I don’t know about any of you, but I like the system this front office — with King Jerry Jones overseeing it — has in place.
It seems to be working.
Is playing smart too much to ask?
by silverblue5 on Nov 11, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely.
I think they got the front office straightened out when Big Bill was here. But they’ve had continued success and, in my opinion, even improved their operation since he’s been gone.
"Everybody wants something but nobody wants to pay the price" - Michael Irvin
by 24Hz on Nov 11, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Wildcat is run by almost every team in the league now
There should be a rule that nothing else can ever be called a gimmick again. If you can get away with the Wildcat, everything is allowed.
by StillHateTheGiants on Nov 10, 2009 6:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Mike
Just thought I needed to say Thank You.
You’ve been a great addition to this blog. Nice style, good content.
Thanks!
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
by Fighter15 on Nov 10, 2009 6:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
+2
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
http://twitter.com/BloggingTheBoys
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 10, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Questioning genius
I thought the game was done once Reid used his last timeout on that failed challenge. The FG seemed like a face-saving effort. “Well, let’s get something. Maybe they’ll fumble.”
As for Vick, I don’t know why they keep using him the way they do. He’d probably do much better staying on the bench, and getting as much reps in practice as possible. Putting him in for 2-3 plays a game does neither him nor the Eagles any favors. That’s not enough time to get in a rhythm to be effective in the game, so why bother? It certainly doesn’t help him become a better passer. Has he even gotten them a first down?
I still believe in Romo.
by Nelson... on Nov 10, 2009 7:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it was just me, but it looked like they gave Vick a play to give McNabb a breather.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 10, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He did look like he was either going to
puke or confer with Andy about the NFL rule on ties.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, is McNabb that out of shape?
maybe I’m naive, but shouldn’t a starting QB be able to handle that many snaps this time of year? They showed a close-up one time of him and he looked like he was out of breath and he wasn’t even running. I don’t get that. Can you imagine if the QB of the Cowboys was doing that?
by texstar on Nov 10, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fear The Rush
Fear is an emotional response to a threat. It is a basic survival mechanism observed in quarterbacks and occurrs in response to a specific stimulus, such as pain when sacked/hit or the threat of danger from blitzes, and may lead to significant behavioral change.
Common symptoms of fear include rapid heartbeat, perspiration, dizziness, dyspnea, trembling, hyperventilation and vomiting in SuperBowls.
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 10, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I had all of those
during the 44-6 game last season…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 11, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If the deterrent of using Vick is the disruption of McNabb's flow
then they should give him an entire series. I think it would be most effective used in this manner. Especially when the Eagles have a lead like they’ve had in a few of their games. Instead they choose to throw more bombs and pile it on when they could be getting Vick and the ’cat some valuable work.
by grey9er on Nov 10, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess this is what "correct football" gets you
A case that’s uncluttered by championship trophies
This and a pool of vomit on the Super Bowl turf.
I hate Philly.
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
by Lord Humungus on Nov 10, 2009 7:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I just don’t get all the Philly hate…
I’m certainly not a fan of them but they’ve done next to nothing in the Super Bowl era and therefore in my mind harmless. If either the Giants or Redskins win a couple more Super Bowls in the next few years they’ll be tied with Dallas (unless of course the Cowboys win another one in the meantime).
For me, my real hatred is for the Giants because I actually hate their players; everyone one of them. Plus they actually won a Super Bowl recently, (closing the gap on the silver and blue). And that Tom Coughlin whiney face is unbearable to look at. The guy whines over every single play call that doesn’t go his way; every single time.
The Cowboys and Eagles actually have a mutual respect for one another; they may not like each other but there is respect. The Giant players honestly have no respect for the Cowboys at all. I’ve heard it from Osi Umenyiora himself in an interview (he excluded D-Ware from his comments because they were teammates in college) and we all know what Brandon Jacobs had to say about Romo this off season.
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
by gee-roj on Nov 10, 2009 7:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My hate for them
Comes from all the classless, low rent, knuckle dragging things they’ve done over the years. Not just to the Cowboys but their complete lack of class and professionalism. Are you kidding me about the clock? That franchise should be fined heavily for that. Seriously, the league should fine them a million $$. This isn’t the SEC. Just another example of the human feces they are. Cheering for Michael Irvin laying motionless on the turf? Buddy Ryan is probably the biggest buffoon to ever coach in the league and he actually raised their standard. They are garbage.
by StillHateTheGiants on Nov 10, 2009 7:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles organization is praised for their approach
But they are an extremely arrogant group. They believe they are right and everyone else is wrong. If you are an eagle over 30, they treat you like a red headed step child. Andy Reid is a stubborn coach (pass, pass, run doesn’t work, pass, pass, pass) and that backfires when you play good teams. Fans buy into it every year with renewed hope, but when they lose they want changes that they won’t get (see arrogant).
Yes, the eagles have been successful. However, that depends on what you call successful. If you just want a competitive team that wins a playoff game or two each year, then you’re happy. You’re even happy to be a participant (but not win) in NFC championship games. But, if you want to win those NFC championship games or even a Super Bowl, then you’re out of luck because this group will continue to have wholes that are exposed in the biggest of games.
Keep making your money, Eagles. And keep pulling the wool over your fan’s eyes.
by grey9er on Nov 10, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was in Philly yesterday and...
the radio guys weren’t crazy yet. But they were talking about whether they should bench Donovan for a proven winner like Kolb if their woes continue.
Seriously? They are freaking crazy. As I drove by Lincoln Financial Field, I let loose an expletive laden torrent that automatically qualifies me for no better than purgatory. It felt good.
by jdramirez on Nov 10, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
About that arrogance
Don’t know if you guys watched Playmakers on ESPN the one season it was on. I thought it was fantastic. But I heard Jeff Lurie (Eagles Prez?) told ESPN to cancel the show. Guess because it was too close to real life!
by selke99 on Nov 12, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate 'em all...equally
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
by Fighter15 on Nov 10, 2009 8:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the franchise is one of the better ones in football
They make solid decisions and have sustained good perfromance over time. I think the hatred comes from two places. First, their home stadium fans are rude to visiting fans and players. Of course that’s not all their fans, but enough to give them the rep. Second, they have been so good for so long that the rest of the division wants revenge.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 8:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's not the case with me
Despite my name, I don’t feel as strongly about the Giants and they’ve been good as consistently as the Eagles. The Steelers either. It’s more than a handful of fans and a couple of incidents with the Eagles. It’s not just the guy on the street either. The guy running the clock? C’mon that’s just ridiculous. The thing Buddy Ryan did back in the early 90’s scoring as the clock ran out in a blow out? NOBODY else does the things they do.
by StillHateTheGiants on Nov 10, 2009 8:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I didn't mean to imply
it was only a handful of fans. That part has becomes an ingrained (or is it inbred?) part of Eagles fandom. But it’s not every fan either. I’m sure there are regular people up in the stands as well.
I’d love to find out what really happened with the clock thing.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Philthy fans' family trees don't fork
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
by Fighter15 on Nov 10, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One of my best friends is from Philly
He’s a great guy but I wouldn’t want to be stranded on an island with him. He’s a nut job.
by StillHateTheGiants on Nov 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wonder what would happen
if they had a bounty on the kicker this year – what do you think, Buehler vs. whoever they send after him? I’m thinking Buehler holds his ground and delivers some punishment
by Scoobay on Nov 10, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ironically, I was afraid DAL was the 'quick strike' team
Unable to sustain drives due to a lack of focus or discipline that leads to breakdowns or penalties. Appears DAL is tied at 10th in the league with 5 other teams for 3rd down conversion %.
And Conventional Wisdom is Romo/this team doesn’t win big games, but every time we do, the opponent or accomplishment gets diminished somehow.
I also share your observation that Felix is way too tentative, at least on KO returns.
Last item – Semi-related to the unbalanced line. Saw a lot of backside pursuit, especially blitzing LB’s chasing down RB’s from behind. PHL became more successful at this as the game wore on – it didn’t work on the TC TD, but they made several tackles that way before the back could accelerate into the hole later on.
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by tdships on Nov 10, 2009 8:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The back side pursuit was deffinitely getting better. Still, if Garrett sees that
he will call a play that will go for big yards and calm that crap back down.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 10, 2009 8:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interestingly
I think that what the Eagles are ths year, Dallas has been over the past three years – heavy reliance on the big play but struggled to grind it out when the big plays are denied by the defense. Then in the preseason we are treated to long, methodical drives. I think the transformation is almost complete – they are getting comfortable doing both.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 9:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The circle is complete
Now I am the master. You should not have come back, Obi-Wan.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
by White Wolf on Nov 10, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
And Conventional Wisdom is Romo/this team doesn’t win big games, but every time we do, the opponent or accomplishment gets diminished somehow.
The Eagles and their fans say that they beat themselves with their penalties and gave away the game. Dallas had 11 penalties and the Eagles 8. According to this, Dallas would have blown them out if not for their penalties.
The simple fact is that the Eagles need turnovers to win. We protected the ball and won, simple.
by grey9er on Nov 10, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they can't admit the Cowboys were the better team
that’s how they roll.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 10, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Harbaugh was right ...
for a while there, Dallas had the wrong approach … My personal feel was Jerry loved his 90’s guys so much that he always felt if he could get that one missing piece .. Troy and the boys can have one more run. … Fortunately, after the dust settled, Jerry learned that one player doesn’t make a team, nor does talent always translate into production. Building the core of a team through the draft and attaining playerrs w/ good character and team work wins championships .. and thank you Jerry we have that!! …. Forever I will say .. there is not another owner in sports I’d rather have owning our Dallas Cwoboys than Jerry Jones!!!
by spadesking131313 on Nov 10, 2009 9:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not Dan Snyder??
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
The Cowboys as a franchise drafted poorly, overpaid some players, and brought in one too many questionable character guys. They weren’t that bad, but they weren’t that good.
TO last year sucked the energy out of me as a fan, I’m sure being near the eye of the storm has a bigger effect.
by jdramirez on Nov 10, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget the Dead Money the Cowboys lived with in the early 2000s
by AustonianAggie on Nov 10, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but dead money is a result of poor decisions with long term contracts.
And when you finally cut ties, there’s your dead money. We still could have been competitive if they drafted better players.
I think back to the Manning v. Leaf draft. Everyone presumes that if the Colts too Leaf, then the Chargers would have taken Manning. Nope. Their GM said that they were looking at Andre Wadsworth who was a big bust for Zona.
So I’m curious if we had good players at the top of our draft board, or whether we were just snake bit and would have instead of drafting Quincy, drafted Tiuossopo.
by jdramirez on Nov 10, 2009 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cowboys HAD to have dead money
The entire league was playing fast and furious with Free Agents in the late ’90s and Aikman & Co. deserved their paydays.
If Jerry had played it conservatively, we would have lost Aikman and quite a few other starters. As it was, we lost 22 guys off the ’93 Super Bowl team. He had to keep some of them.
Hindsight (being 20/20 and all) tells us we didn’t win from ‘96 on so we should have dumped that team then. But did you really want to see Aikman, Emmitt, and Irvin in another uniform? ’Cause that’s what would have happened.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
by Fighter15 on Nov 10, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
The salary cap era threw a monkey wrench into everything the Cowboys were doing. Coupled with early retirements by Irvin, Aikman, and Sanders. I don’t blame Jerry for that. You are winning the game, then they change the rules in the middle of it. What can you do?
Then the poor drafting during the rebuilding phase completed the collapse.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 11, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Jerry could have gotten role players with those low picks
we might have been able to make a run in ’96. I think we won one playoff game that year and lost in the divisional round to Carolina.
by selke99 on Nov 12, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody knew what they were doing back then and the rest of the league learned from us
on what not to do. Its unfortunate but it was a byproduct of us being so dam good and talented.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 10, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas and SF
both died a horrible salary cap death.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 It was ugly watching our beloved Boys die a slow gutwrenching death.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 10, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SF was somewhat more competitive in the early 2000 than the boys
by dcfanz on Nov 10, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They were but
the salary cap ate them soon after that.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was all related though
Jerry cut his teeth prior to salary cap and didn’t adjust well well once they were fully into it. They drafted poorly which caused them to over-rely on FAs, leading them to overpay. And when they made mistakes in both areas, they got into salary cap hell. And every team has experienced this.
What I disagree with is that they are completely different now. I think they have much better scouting now and they are more fiscally conservative, but the underlying principles are the same – find talented players and pay them long-term to build as a core. What is different s more effort on getting depth and role players, and drafting better to avoid that deadly cycle of FAs.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I should have read further
You already stated what I just wrote.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 11, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great minds...
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 11, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I had no problem with what Harbaugh said until...
he said that Dallas is whats wrong with the NFL. That sent me over the edge. A second year HC needs to keep his mouth shut and put some skins on the wall. Jerry does have three SB trophies to his credit. It’s kinda like your little brother I can beat on him but you better not.
by DIRE WOLF on Nov 10, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah,......
and look how great his defense is playing this year after Ryan left? I think their defense is on the decline partly because of age and partly because Ryan left. We’ll see how great a coach he really is pretty soon.
by texstar on Nov 10, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he is arrogant SOB.
That will catch to him in the NFL. He went to the playoffs last year and now he thinks he’s somebody. He won’t be a HC long IMO.
by DIRE WOLF on Nov 10, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I may be wrong...,..
but I think they are changing their defense to schemes more like the Eagles instead of Ryan’s style.
by texstar on Nov 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They have both always been pressure happy Ds only Ravens have 3-4 personel.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 10, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It maybe a long time before the Ravens
are in the playoffs again. The AFC has alot of good teams and the playoff spots are harder to get. NE was 11/5 last year and stayed home for the playoffs.
by DIRE WOLF on Nov 10, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im not sure.
It appears they have a good young Oline, stout young RB (Rice) and what looks to be a Franchise QB. Ozzie is a good GM. They are looking rough at CB, ILB and Dline though.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 10, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if they'll bring back
Koukinas since Mangini hung him out to dry?
by texstar on Nov 10, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And they lost a very good DC.
It will take a while to rebuild the D, but it is not as hard as trying to find that franchise QB. Dallas knows that only too well?
by DIRE WOLF on Nov 10, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And WR
Their best WR is in his mid 30s (Mason) who retired and came back in the offseason, and they probably expected a lot more out of Clayton. Give Flacco a go to guy along with Heap and that running game and their offense should be smokin. Though their defense does need more of the work.
by selke99 on Nov 12, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our old friend Cowherd said this morning
that Jerry will stick his nose in things in Dec. and the Cowboys will tank. I guess the pass is the only thing we have to compare things to, but I sure hope the past is the past and the Cowboys turn up the heat in Dec.
by DIRE WOLF on Nov 10, 2009 10:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If you can't criticize them on the field
you try to find something off the field.
Moving back in the world of logic, why would Jones stick his nose into anything new if they were winning? I’ve never seen him do anything remotely like that.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do fat people show up to orgies?
They want to be in the middle of the action.
by jdramirez on Nov 10, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAOROTF!!!!
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
by gee-roj on Nov 10, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But like every freaking financial/investment planning commercial will tell you...
Past results is not indicative of future gains. Strangely enough, this team is held to both sides… the recent malaise that was the December seasons (which included Quincy Carter lead teams) and playoffs, as well as the expectations created by the Aikman and Staubach regimes.
It’s really not fair. But life isn’t.
by jdramirez on Nov 10, 2009 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I heard that
“The culture with Pittsburgh is different than the culture of Dallas … always has been”
yet, they only have 1 more title than the Boys ….. luckily, Dallas doesn’t have to play for Cowherd’s respect.
and he likes to point to the past … does that mean the Broncos are going to suck the rest of the year? They didn’t do well last year ….. Minnesota not going to do anything? If he wants to hate on the Boys, it’s his right. I just hope the Boys prove him wrong this year.
by what_the_crap on Nov 10, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The big difference is Pitt. has done it lately.
The only to shut up the haters is to win the SB.
by DIRE WOLF on Nov 10, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
very true
I just think it’s BS that he’s been calling Dallas a grease fire all offseason, yet they’re 6-2 right now and it’s like he doesn’t wanna give them credit. He doesn’t think Dallas has beaten anyone …. but oh well. Can’t please everyone.
He’s biased, big time. Pittsburgh, New England, and USC can’t do no wrong …. Oakland and Dallas are grease fires. I stopped listening to him (only reason why I did this morning is that I left my radio on that channel and it was on when I started the car)
by what_the_crap on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I never cared for him.
Part of that is that I loved Tony Kornheiser and I was crestfallen when he left. But I don’t find much of what he says interesting or entertaining.
by jdramirez on Nov 10, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
After listening to him enough
I finally figured out his schtick. He basically just says stuff to get a rise out of people. He’s bashed USC before, so he doesn’t always go for the favorites. He basically just says what will piss people off and make them text/call him up. I used to hate him, but it’s kind of entertaining in a weird way when you realize he’s like a Jr. Skip.
by selke99 on Nov 12, 2009 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't listen to him much,but I was punching buttons and
heard the tease so I listened. He is a real ass and hates the Boys, but i guess it get him ratings he’s sitll on the air. The talking heads don’t care much about facts only ratings.
by DIRE WOLF on Nov 10, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
he’s on a radio show, and does well, so he does something right.
by what_the_crap on Nov 10, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course he hates the Boys!
SB XXX – Loser!
by Road Warrior on Nov 10, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is he from Pitt? I don't know anything about him.
I know I don’t care for his BS so I don’t listen to him.
by DIRE WOLF on Nov 10, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, DW. Cowterd is a master at shovelin' da $#!+
That’s why BSPN is “The Terdwide Feeder in $#!+”
And I’m with you, I always change the station whenever I hear his pathetic loser voice.
And he actually looks like a two-bit weakling on TV to boot.
Is playing smart too much to ask?
by silverblue5 on Nov 10, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean...
Pittsburgh has 4 rings…the refs have the other two.
by TheCowboyFan on Nov 10, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
haters will always hate, it's enivitable
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 10, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
haters will always hate, it's enivitable
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 10, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah?
What about repeaters???
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry dunk, computer issues
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 10, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
enivitable?
That is the kind of typo that I usually make
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
by Seanrude on Nov 10, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, I committ typos all the time
not a good typist
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 10, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to include Aikman from '96 - '99
The biggest gap, though, is the ’00 through ’05 seasons with just a single appearance courtesy of bailing wire and duct tape provided by BP.
The whole argument is complete and utter b.s. There’s only one player (Flo) that has been here through all 4 different regimes. So is it his fault?
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. - Thomas Jefferson
by Fighter15 on Nov 10, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
In that interview with Kremer, Romo gave a prepared business-like response about Roy
But he gushed when asked about Miles. He was all smiles.
by ym on Nov 10, 2009 10:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, they've both made it as UFA's
I’m sure they have a pretty close bond (along with Sam Hurd)
by Joon on Nov 10, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this team is for real
they made their bones up in Philly and while they may stumble a little before season’s end they grew some cojones with that big win.
Romo protecting the ball AND making critical plays, Defense playing with passion and blowing people up, O line protecting and opening holes, special teams making big contributions; our team is finally coming together Cowboy bros…
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
by angie'sdad on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think so too
they will definitely drop some games and have some disappointments, but they feel like a different team than over the past few years.
My biggest fear is that they make it o the playoffs and end up facing a team that is simply on a roll and unstoppable. But I’m willing to wait!
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe this year, we'll be that team on a roll
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Nov 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's hoping
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
One game at a time
We’ve got an opportunity to pad the W column before the home stretch, but we can’t look past anyone.
Agree JJ only learned to manage the cap(actually that’s Steven’s job)after his bad experience in the late 90’s – paying stars past their prime or big contracts players that got hurt. Of the Triplets, he only had to make the tough call with #22, Michael and Troy were forced to retire due to injury and thus remained Cowboys.
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by tdships on Nov 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
THE "CHEESEHEADS" SUCK BIG_TIME....
When you seriously consider the ACTION going on in the NFL at the present time, does anybody here really believe that with time, the CHEESEDICKS will ever amount to anything other than melted motzarella?…Why do they continue to live in the past of Lombardi?…I mean Good Lord the mans been dead for over a 1000years and they still believe that he is going to bring them back to their former glory days…I was reading an article the other day about how the “strong arm of Rodgers” was going to be their ultimate salvation, and how he had" better timing" than either Favre or Starr…Now lets look at this thing realistically and I hope somebody can explain football positioning to me so that my pea-brain can grasp it in a more lucid manner…How in the hell can you be “stronger, and more accurate” if your ass is laying on the Frozen Tundra of Green Bay…I mean hes been sacked 37 times this year, they have a barely over .500 record and he is better than Favre?…who won the NFC-North for them so often in the past single-handedly at times?…Better than Starr who gave them 2 SB in a row?…WTF..I dont think IMO, that even Lombardi can help these “pie in the sky” dreamers…Im not saying that they should have tried to keep Favre in GreenBay any longer, but I do believe they could have doone amuch better job in negotiating with him on his release…I dont know how, but Im sure there could have been something to appease his angry departure…I mean what more could you expect from a team that has made you a football god in GreenBay, and then in less than 2 years cursed, spit, and developed han-overs to beat all at the use of your name…Brett Favre Blvd. or #4 Ave. no longer exist in Green Bay…The" CheeseHeads" suck big time…Ill bet D-Ware and Ratliff are chomping at the bits just aching to get at the QB…As much as I hate to remember those 2 last second losses(I have heard that in the 2nd game that GreenBay players admittedly said that they had jumped offsides and that Jethro Pugh would have won the QB sneak had they not have) but c’mon dudes, that was like in the 60’s and 70’s and since then youve won another SB and since then we have won 5 SB, not to mention the one you guys lost, and the 3 we lost…It doesnt matter really…All that really matters is the Game we will play Sunday…I know you guys have the famous “Lambeau Leap”, and the fancy-schmancy headgear, but that will in no way detract from the ass-whipping the Cowboys will put on you…Lets facde it, the Boys have one thing and one thing only on their minds at this moment in time…DOMINATION…that is the act of excersising OUR will upon your will…and whether your willing or not it really dont matter cause that is what we are in the process of doing…Ask the She-Gals, the Sea-Birds, and the Black-Birds…Totally dominated the games from start to finish…You guys are just a blip on the NFC-radar screen in our goal to take home another Lombardi(may he rest in peace)…After watching us disable, own, and dominate the She-Gals on Sunday night, Ill bet its a runny feeling in your intestines right now as to the debacle we are going to make of your so-called team…Ill bet a soothing ointment is going to be all that you will want once the pain in your ass from getting it kicked by a dominant and rising Football franchise like the Dallas Cowboys…Ill bet the proctologists in your little Bay town are going to be busy all week pulling the Cowboys boots out of your little hiney-holes…But what do I REALLY know about football you ask?…what makes me so sure that that is whats going to happen?~shrugs~nuttin special, but so far this year I am 100% correct in calling out the winner of every game Dallas has played…Nothing ever gets by my watchful eyes, and I have been doing this since I was old enough to eat solid foods…I do not ask that you believe me in any way shape or form, and I really dont expect you to either, but I just feel like it is my Christian duty to tell you these things so that you can better prepare yourselves for the outcome…Now before anyone gets to thinking I am a nice guy or any such foolishness I want to say right up front I am not…I am a HOMER, and the Dallas Cowboys have been my team of CHOICE since the early 80’s…I have gone over past losses and wins, and I make predictions based on my analysis of these games…I do not let my bias, or my prejudice get in the way of my analysis, and so I have a perfect record…I predict as of right now 3 more WINS for the BOYS in a row…they will be easy, and dominating wins, and I will be back, right here in the first week of December to stand up and take my accolades from all who hear, and submit to my predictions, and place their bets accordingly…FEAR THE STAR
(PS: Ive got some property in Arizona sitting on the Gulf Of Mexico that is the perfect get away for a person with a fat bank account, and no brains, to take his woman and share some “quiet time” alone with her if anybody is interested all for the low price of $60…thats the price of a ticket to the Cowboys game against the Oakland Raiders on ThanksGiving…Way up high in CowBoys Stadium, where all the little blue-birds roost…LOL)
by Hawgz, Bugz, and FilthyFowl Hater on Nov 10, 2009 4:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure there are some fine insights in your post but,
Dude cut it down some. I just looked at it and passed.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
by GunsUp on Nov 10, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Brown
is planning a new novel based entirely on deciphering these posts…
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.
by dunkman on Nov 10, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Di-Bunched Up Code
I can’t wait!
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 11, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've tried to help him a bunch of times
but he won’t change. He probably doesn’t realize that only a very few people will take the painstaking time to read through those lengthy posts without paragraph breaks. I’ve decided to just let him be. He’s a friend but refuses to take sound literary advice.
Winning takes talent, to repeat takes character. - John Wooden
by BishopWest on Nov 11, 2009 1:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You do this every post.
Listen to the feedback you’re getting and stop the nonsense. Be more concise or break your post into paragraphs or no one will read them. If no one reads them, why post comments? See the other posts poeple submit as examples. I didn’t read your post either — this is just a response to a wall of words I have no interest in.
by Teacher on Nov 11, 2009 12:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I stated a while back
I thought this Iggles team remined me of the Cowboys the last couple of years. They were the SB favorites, plenty of talent, big-play threat.
As of today, they still can’t sustain a good drive, it is either the big-play to DJ or JM. If you can keep them from the big play and not turn the ball over, they can definitely be beat (which we did).
"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate." Vince Lombardi
by Boyz4Life on Nov 10, 2009 4:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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