Cowboys @ Packers: 5 Questions With Acme Packing Company
In anticipation of the game against the Green Bay Packers, I reached out to Brandon at Acme Packing Company to get a little insight into what's going on with the team from Wisconsin. I gave him 5 Questions, he gave me 5 Answers.
Blogging The Boys: Start with the most painful, what happened last week against the Bucs?
Acme Packing Company: First, the Bucs returned a 1st quarter INT down to the 8 yard line which led to a TD. Second, a blocked punt was returned for a TD. Outside of those two plays, the Packers soundly outplayed the Bucs in the first 3 quarters. Rodgers ran for a TD to push the Packers lead to 28-17 with 13 minutes remaining. Then in those final 13 minutes, everything fell apart for the Packers. The Bucs outplayed them in every way and went on a 21-0 run to end the game. All of the team's weaknesses were badly exposed during the game. It was a fluke game in the sense that the Packers have usually played well in the 4th quarter this season.
BTB: Is Aaron Rodgers going to last the season? Is the offensive line as bad as described?
APC: Rodgers has been limping around on two bad feet for a few weeks, but it hasn't effected him so far; he still managed to run for 26 yards and a TD last week. Luckily that is all that's been ailing him after 37 sacks in the first 8 games, and many more QB hits. He has held the ball longer than he should, under the circumstances, but that's only accounted for some of the sacks. Last week, the Bucs strategy was to bull rush 4 tweener DE/DT types and they overpowered the Packers line in the 2nd half for 6 sacks. I point out that it all happened in the 2nd half, because Rodgers wasn't sacked at all in the 1st half, and he actually had good protection.
Last week was the first game back for veteran RT Mark Tauscher who hadn't played since he tore his ACL last December. But near the end of the 1st half, he reinjured that same knee. His replacement RT Allen Barbre (who's probably out next week with a concussion) wasn't responsible for all 6 sacks, but obviously the loss of Tauscher played a factor. Veteran LT Chad Clifton has only played in 4 games this season due to an ankle injury. Once Clifton and Tauscher return, the line should improve, but Tauscher should still be out on Sunday. Expect the Packers to play their 3rd string RT T.J. Lang, so you should still be playing against the same horrible line on Sunday.
BTB: How has the changeover to the 3-4 gone? How much are they using it and how much do they use a traditional 4-3?
APC: You'll see a lot of 3-4 and 4-2-5 when they go to the nickel. Last week, the Packers went to a dime package for the first time all year. I'd expect about a 50/50 split between 3 DTs playing together (a 3-4 look) vs. 2 DTs and 2 OLBs lining up like DEs (a 4-2-5 look).
BTB: I read that your special teams are having a poor season. What areas is the team failing at specifically?
APC: The special teams have been a disaster. Currently Football Outsiders has them ranked dead last by a comfortable margin. Nothing's been good, but the kick and punt coverage units are the worst. They've been getting knocked out of their lane assignments and leaving huge holes for big returns. I'm expecting a monster game from Patrick Crayton. Mike Tanier called them part of the "Lost Numbers", along with all the penalty and sack yards they've given up.
BTB: You guys are sitting dead even at 4-4. How are the fans feeling? Optimistic? Gloomy? Hopeful?
APC: It's hard to be optimistic after two straight losses. And the losses have been hard; a loss to a (previously) 0-7 team and the other to a division rival led by some 40 year old QB who is generally hated by Packer fans. It's unlikely they'll finish the season 0-8, although they almost did it last year, so they'll give us reasons to be optimistic at some point. I just don't expect it will be this week.
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Firstly, Dave, you need to get some sleep.
Secondly, thanks for putting this together.
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 13, 2009 4:01 AM CST reply actions
Three thoughts for the 5 questions:
1. So much of “strength of schedule” comes down to timing… Playing the Packers without their O-line healthy makes all the difference. A two-game losing streak doesn’t help their mind-set either.
2. Lost in the satisfaction of leaving Philly with a W was the offense underperforming … The Packers D knows it needs to have a HUGE game to stay in it … if Tony and Co. show up big, this could be a blow-out.
3. I like FINALLY being on the plus side of special teams conversations!
keep up the great work grizz :)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
It's funny how people ignore
injuries when talking about teams. One or two starters missing from the line can be devastating.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Rodgers Is A Great Talent
But how long can he stand and survive this pounding? The Packers deserve an F in GM duties to allow the offensive line to deteriorate this badly. Even considering injuries, the Pack o-line issue is a huge black mark on the organization. The Pack has been grooming their new franchise QB for quite a long time now and to not have the depth and talent at the o-line is just crazy and inexecusable. I will always wonder if Aikmen might have lasted a bit longer if he hadn’t taken that terrible pounding early in his career. Obviously Aikmen recovered but time will tell if Rodgers can emerge from this dark period with his talent intact.
I suspect they are going to mix things up this week
short drops, more max protects. That may help them overcome their problems this week.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I'm not sure we're in any better situation
If we lost Flozell, Kosier (we saw that last season), Davis, Columbo. I trust Procter a little more at Center than at Guard, and at least we have Preston, but I still don’t like it.
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
And they are losing back-ups at this point
which I don’t think the deepest teams could overcome.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
what are your thoughts on bringing in McQuistan?
kinda interesting if you think about it
I think they are either just churning the bottom of the roster
or they’re really concerned about the RT back-up spot. Paul was really highly rated coming out, so the churn theory is very possible.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
yeah, it said he didn't sign though.......
BTW, who is Columbo’s back-up?
I can sleep soundly now LOL
poor guy, never heard a good thing about him, everybody hates him. C’mon guys lets lighten up a bit he is a Dallas Cowboy, plus as long as the band is together he’ll be on the roster
Stay focused and don't believe your headlines and you will be fine.
Rmember the guy on the other side of the ball is a potential all pro too. They don’t pay him to stand around and look pretty.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
I find it really hard to believe Packers fans hate Favre
He was their franchise for many years.
In Romo we Trust
It's kind of gross to me.
I don’t understand the Favre hatred, particularly since they treated him pretty badly, in my opinion. I’m definitely no Favre fan, but I have a hard time not taking his side on this one. If you don’t want the guy, why are you so mad that he is playing for someone else?
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 13, 2009 7:13 AM CST up reply actions
But for comparison's sake
What if Staubach came out of retirement and played for the Skins, or even the Eagles. Remember the article last week about Andy Reid asking Aikman to come out of retirement to fill in for McNabb? Can you imagine the cries of “treachery!”
How Bout Them Cowboys!
It's more like if..
Emmitt would have left the Cardinals and went to the Eagles or Skins. The two situations are actually pretty similar, but Emmitt didn’t chose to return to a team in the Cowboys division. He handled it a lot classier, which neither the Packers or Favre did.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
yeah, I like Emmitt......
but I don’t recall anyone from the Eagles or Skins offering him a job. Sorry to disagree with you but I don’t think Emmitt necessarily went to Arizona out of the kindness of his heart for the Cowboys. He went for money and where he had a chance to play. You can’t blame Favre for going to the Vikings because they are a very talented team and he knew it plus Thompson treated him pretty badly.
I think the Cards
were one of the few teams that wanted him and were willing to pay him more than minimum wage.
Good analogy
But I’d have to add how happy Favre looked on the sidelines as the Vikings beat the Packers in Lambeau. He looked like a kid who got everything he asked for on Christmas. He was reveling in being able to stick a shiv into the Packers organization.
I don't understand it completely either
but I guess Favre transcends the normal player on a team and GB is a unique franchise in many respects.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Hey if the Packers want to completely abandon their iconic player...
let them. Sure it hurts, but if they want to be that petty, it only makes them look bad. They will develop a reputation, much like the Eagles booing Santa and cheering at the Irvin situation.
I would if I was a Packer fan
His diva attitude had started to manifest seasons before he was released by Green Bay. And he was doing a great disservice to the franchise by dithering and waffling for months during the offseason. On top of that, he would then make up his mind to return and expect to be treated like the conquering hero that saves the day.
Frankly, I don’t know if he even cares that Packer fans hate him. His true colors might be the ones showing now — those of a mercenary.
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by accidental innuendo on Nov 13, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
Sure the packers defense was bad last year...
and it can be said that Farve wouldn’t have made a difference to the teams records, but I totally disagree. As a leader, you affect the entire team, especially when you are an icon.
exactly
It seems to be forgotten that he retired on them. He cried and said he was done and then rips them in media for taking him at his word. Then engineers events through lies and subterfuge to go to their arch rival. I have always kind of rooted for the Vikes. My best friend as a kid was from their and he of course cheered them. I have some friends now from there. If the Boys couldn’t win all of the Super Bowls I kinda hoped they would. Not this year. Cannot stand the arrogance and lies.
Told a Viking friend about how I was going to go out for Halloween as Bret Favre. but I couldn’t find anyone to dress up as AP and carry me… And let me get all the candy…
by Chris in Va on Nov 13, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Well...the reason they didn't want him was because he couldn't make up his mind
and it went on and on and on……about 3 – 4 years between one more season or retirement….it gets old.
They are hurt and upset right now
They will come around. I still contend that it was the Packers who showed Farve the door, and so you can’t really complain when you divorce your wife and she finds someone else. But it does hurt more when it is your boss that you hate.
Wow
APC seems like probably one of the better sites besides this one.
He was truthful in his thinking, with no sugar coating.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 13, 2009 8:27 AM CST reply actions
Agreed.
It seemed like an entirely rationale sentiment. On the flip side, Peter King thinks the Packers will will because they are more desperate. I’m thinking PK needs a dose of reality, because this Packers team is flawed at the moment.
It’s not just the line. Aikman and others were laying the blame at Rodgers for some of the sacks. And unlike Rothlisberger who holds on to the ball too long and gets sacked, the Packers are coming out with a win.
I think we will be ok Sunday , if and only if, they come out and play their game.
Not play to the opponent’s record or their injuries. That’s what scares me the most when a team gets complacent. I am hoping Dallas is very hungry and the leaders are letting them know every win counts and gets them that closer to a guaranteed playoff spot.
That's what Brooking's voice in the lockerroom will do..
His energy on the field has picked up the defense a lot, but I also think he gets on people when they need it. And that goes for everyone not just defensive people, which is evident when he’s sprinting down the sideline on long touchdowns and things like that. This team just feels different, and it’s hard not to give him a lot of credit for that.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
I'm just happy...
that it isn’t going to be negative 30 degrees out there. I was worried as sin that it was going to be too cold and that the Cowboys wouldn’t play well because they couldn’t get their head into the game.
A few thoughts from Wisconsin
I live in Wisconsin, so it’s darn near impossible not to be saturated with everything Packers. I watch all the games with a detached sort of interest and listen to local sports talk radio
So, here are a few thoughts on the game from the Wisconsin perspective.
Packer Nation has absolutely turned on Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson. Fans want their heads on a platter and they want it now. The two losses to the Vikings (and Brett Favre), coupled with the Bucs humiliation has left the fan base angry and disconnected. How might this impact the game? Well, I expect the normally raucous Packer fans to be abnormally subdued before and at kickoff. If the Cowboys can get out to a lead, you will hear lots of boos and any home field advantage will be lost. The one thing Dallas does not want to do is let the Packers get out to a lead, build momentum and get the fans back in the game.
In all the years I have watched pro football, I cannot recall a quarterback getting pounded, sacked and pummeled the way Aaron Rodgers has this season. It is a miracle that he isn’t on IR. But he is very dangerous and a good quarterback when given time. Pressure will be key.
Al Harris is the most overrated cornerback in professional football. The matchup of the day will be getting a wideout one-on-one with Harris. Miles Austin will destroy Al Harris. Conversely, Charles Woodson is an outstanding player and Romo needs to be really careful throwing his direction. If Green bay is smart (and they are not – the coaching staff sucks), they would have Woodson shadow Austin the entire game.
Green Bay is the most penalized team in pro football over the last few years and this season is no different. If Dallas can make Green Bay start deep in their own territory and then make them dink-and-dunk down the field, more often than not GB will self-destruct (sound a bit familiar?).
Ryan Grant is at best average and the other running backs suck. Choice would easily be the starter on the Packers. Seven guys in the box will be plenty to stop the running game. The key is to not give up the big plays down the field in the passing game.
Green Bay simply does not have many difference makers. Woodson is one. Jennings maybe, with his run after the catch ability. I’m not sure if Jermichael Finley is playing, but if he is, he is dangerous. Green Bay is an average football team.
No, I’m not going to the game. I don’t like being in enemy territory, even if Green Bay fans are generally good hosts. All it takes is one angry drunken a-hole to start a fight. I would much rather see Dallas at home. Enjoy the game everyone. 9-2 is not only possible, but likely if Dallas can get this difficult road win.
Penalties.
Great. That means I have to wait through a ton of commercials again.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 13, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
Often I avoid reading long posts
but this one was well worth the time. Excellent stuff.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Totally agree.
It also is a reflection of what I have seen on the field in the few games I have watched of the Packers. I will throw this out though, they played really well against a good Vikings team as they were coming back late in the game. They aren’t void of talent, but they are flawed.
Thanks for the insight....very good stuff.
I went to the cowboys – dolphins game in 2007 here in Miami and slowly but surely as the lead increased, I realized at least 40% of that stadium was filled with cowboys fans.. Probably not the case in Lambeau though.
I've worn a Cowboys jersey into Giants stadium and I would do it
at FedEx field too. I think i’d leave it off in phili though, especially if it was a night game.
Giants fans are more of a nuisance than a threat and Jets fans are really obnoxious
I did it at FedEx
for the 27-6 drubbing the gave us the last game of the season. first pro football game. as we were leaving my wife said “Well at least you got to see professional football.” I said, “well kinda…”
by Chris in Va on Nov 13, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
I was there too
and everytime some Redskins fan talked smack, I responded “13-3” this was before the game. I knew we would lose, but I knew we wouldn’t show them anything either in case we met in the playoffs. Too bad things ended with NY.
+1
Yep.
Remember the ice forming on us that game? It sleeted…
by Chris in Va on Nov 13, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
It was awful
and half the stadium was inside watching the game from the lounge area in the club level. What horrible fans, you are winning a game to go to the playoffs and you can’t even sit in the bad weather to watch?
I paid a custodian $5 for two large trash bags, then told the redskins fan behind me he was charging $10. Supply and demand.
AWESOME!
I brought my own
the fans were bitter angry and drunk.
by Chris in Va on Nov 13, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
I wore my Cowboys ballcap to Fedex.
It was a fun game, and those around me were more than hospitable. It probably helped that the Cowboys were losing most of the game.
the people I sat around were actually cool
It was the numb nuts we had to walk past and ride the shuttle with…
by Chris in Va on Nov 13, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
I saw the Cowboys game v. Baltimore
when Testeverde was knocked out of the game and the Drew Henson era began. If only they had Tony play, maybe we could have avoided the Drew Bledsoe era. Having said that, I’m not sure Romo was ready to play at that point in time. But I would have loved to say that I saw Romo in his first game as a pro.
Thanks Louie
I had no idea they were the world wide leader in penalties. We have to bear in mind this is not only an angry crowd, but a wounded team. Pittsburgh showed last week that by going with the hurry-up offense they could defeat the relentless pass rush of the Broncos. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Green Bay apply the same tactic.
In the end, my confidence level is increasing each week in the Cowboys. I think they take this one going away. Look for Felix to have a big game.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
I thought the Giants would be better against the pass rush this year...
considering all their depth, and I was thinking that we should utilized a no huddle. We haven’t done so yet, but I think their is definitely value to doing so.
Not the penalty leader
The Packers are No. 2, somehow the Ravens have more penalties this season. For whatever difference that makes.
I don’t agree with a lot of what Cowboy Louie said. The Packers have big play guys. They just are awful (really awful) at the little things (pass protection, special teams, penalties).
You didn't watch David Carr with Houston?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 13, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Is that a Ben Rothlesburger comparison?
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
Do you guys still have the fear in the back of your mind
that Romo will come out one of these games and have a stinker? A lot has changed for him (2 hands on the ball, taking a sack, etc.) but I still can’t help but think we could be in for one of those games in the next 3 weeks.
I think Romo has become a lot better at taking what the defense gives him (his new ability to shred a cover 2 comes to mind) so I don’t think it is likely, but I definitely wouldn’t be surprised
It's always possible
when you are making changes in your game, there will sometimes be relapses. What makes me more hopeful was the Eagles game. That’s heaviest and most consistent pressure he’s been under in a long time and he handled it the way he needed to by being patient and taking what he could. In the past he would have started forcing things and it would have been either boom or bust. As he starts to get more games like that under his belt, it will become more and more his style of play.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
+1..........
if he can just keep his emotions under control and not try to force plays (kinda like A. Rodgers) he will be okay. Rodgers is a dangerous QB but he kinda reminds me of Romo when he tries to make plays downfield instead of taking what the defense gives you. When he gets outside the pocket, that’s when he is the most dangerous because of his feet. Remember two years ago when he played the Houdini act?
He will......
Every good QB has a stinker from time to time (except maybe Peyton?). Romo’s style of play makes vulnerable to some of those games. He’s most dangerous when plays break and he has to create soemthing but that also leads to sacks and fumbles. it is what it is….I can live with it, I believe he’s a good QB. Definetly better than the piece of crap we sawe last night from Cutler.
Well I didn't see Cutler bc I STILL CAN'T GET NFL NETWORK ARGH
but I don’t mean a game where he has a couple TOs, I mean the one’s where your jaw literally drops and you wonder what the hell he’s doing. Picture the first 3 quarters against Buffalo 2 years ago…
That's exactly the game I was thinking of watching Cutler last night.
Only Romo was just an off day……CUtler’s just a moron who does it very often.
And to think that many on this site were
clamoring for Cutler in lieu of Romo at the beginning of the season. Cutler has a strong arm, I will give him that, but he makes soo many stupid throws.
Where are the people who wanted the Cutler for Romo straight up deal?
Feel free to raise your hands,…. now slap yourself.
He did well against cover 2 before...
I direct your attention to the game against Indy when they were undefeated as exhibit 1. And against the bucs on Thanksgiving when he threw 5 td’s.
It's hard not to be optimistic, his ceiling is so high...
I was toying with the idea of not cutting my hair until they lose like Romo. I never officially declared it and now I’ve decided I don’t want to do it, but I really don’t want to jinx them. Sports are like the only thing I’m a little superstitious about and it makes me feel dumb but I can’t help it.
Everybody has their Superstitions.
And when it comes to the Cowboys, none of us want to jinx it. But this is a different Cowboys team. They’re just now gaining their stride. I expect they’ll do what they’ve done regularly. Take what the defense gives, and play tough defense.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
I'd leave the hair just in case.
But heck, I cut my hair once a year, whether I need to or not.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
The Mrs. was commenting on his hair.
She’s not a fan of the long hair. But here’s hoping it grows down to his arse.
LOL
I actually think Romo looks tougher or more mature with the longer hair. I think he should stop shaving as well.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 13, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
How does someone who reads Football Outsiders...
…say this:
It was a fluke game in the sense that the Packers have usually played well in the 4th quarter this season.
Seems like one of the basic underlying thoughts of FO is that a football team has a true talent level, so if there is a big discrepancy between ‘clutch’ situations (like 3rd/4th down, 2nd half vs 1st half, fumble recovery, etc) and non-clutch situations, the smaller sample size (clutch) will regress towards the larger (non-clutch).
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
I drive an automatic.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 13, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
The clutch in my truck died finally after 17 years.
It’s a sad day in my household.
I had a clutch go out a few times.
Once in my a/c. Loud!
by Chris in Va on Nov 13, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Ha.
Nice.
If Brad Pitt is playing Beane who do you want playing you?
JD: Eddie Guardado.
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 13, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
There’s fewer situations where a team can be clutch than non-clutch.
IE there’s twice as many 1st and 2nd downs as 3rd downs, or more.
Theres 1st, 2nd and 3rd Quarter vs only the 4th Quarter.
A team who tends to be good in the higher volume of plays will tend to be good in the smaller volume of plays.
A team that seems good in the clutch but is usually poor, will have a tendency to play poor in clutch situations as time moves on and more data is accrued
by AustonianAggie on Nov 13, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone have BSPN insider?
I wanna see what this is all about.
This one?
Still recovering from a foot injury, Felix Jones has not had too many touches on offense for the Dallas Cowboys, but has been returning kicks. As the recovery moves forward, Jones’ role in the offense will increase, and his role as a returner will thus decrease, as coach Wade Phillips noted to the Dallas Morning News.
In his place at returner, the team will consider WR Kevin Ogletree and RB Tashard Choice; to us, that means that Jones’ increases will come at the expense of Choice’s.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 13, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Foot?
I thought the foot was last season and the this current injury was a partial PCL tear…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Yeah, what foot injury??
That doesn’t sound right.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 13, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions

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