Packers Punish Cowboys 17-7
by Dave Halprin on Nov 15, 2009 6:39 PM CST
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That game was brutal - on so many levels.
In the short-term, we just got punked by the Green Bay Packers. They punished the Cowboys to the tune of a 17-7 loss at Lambeau Field. The Cowboys offense was terrible, the defense hung tough for as long as they could, but eventually buckled late in the game. This was all on the offense, though. You only need to look at the points the offense put on the scoreboard to know why this game was an epic fail.
It was equally ugly long-term. Marc Colombo has a broken tibia which means Doug Free is part of the starting offensive line for the foreseeable future. I'll have to look at the film to see how Free did in this game, but the blame on the offense should be spread across the board. It will require a deep tape study to figure out all of what went wrong.
Also on the injury front, Ken Hamlin injured an ankle and Mike Jenkins hurt his bicep.
And the Packers hurt the Cowboys pride in this one.
The most important thing the Cowboys can do in the wake of this loss is to not start pointing fingers or making wild statements over the next few days. Dallas is still in first in the NFC East and they are 6-3 which is a good record at this point of the season. With the quick turnaround of games in the next two weeks because of Thanksgiving, the Cowboys need to hold their composure and get ready to win next week. If the Cowboys can pick up wins against the Redskins and the Raiders, which is very doable, they can get over this particular momentum-killer quickly.
Every once in a while you get kicked in the teeth in this game, that just happened to the Cowboys.
It's what you do after the beating that matters.
(Please don't foul up the board with a bunch of profanity or name-calling, I will be vigilant about that.)
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The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
I agree its not time to jump to conclusions
But I said it last week: that tantrum by Roy Williams threw this offense out of wack. The very next game after he cried, Austin’s numbers were way down and Roy’s up. Today, Austin no catches and Roy big yards. Its TO part 2.
"Right after the game, say as little as possible."
- Tom Landry
Why?
"Right after the game, say as little as possible."
- Tom Landry
oh, thanks for clearing it up.
"Right after the game, say as little as possible."
- Tom Landry
Maybe because Austin got doubled today by a very good secondary.
I don’t think GB decided to do that because Roy said a couple things that got taken out of context.
I don't think so
I don’t think that mattered at all.
You sure it's not Jason Garret's failed attempts at adjusting to blitzes?
You’re going to blame this on RW11? Good plan.
There is a lot of blame to go around for this game
But I think the offense has been undermined, like much of last year, by Romo and Garrett’s inability to not let a “star” receiver dictate the game to them.
"Right after the game, say as little as possible."
- Tom Landry
Hardly.
This becomes an issue when Romo starts throwing ill-advised pass that turn into picks. Also, I assure you that all it will take is one more crap performance like this by Roy and Romo will freeze him out for the remainder of the season.
But it wasn't just picks on passes to TO
It was the way offense becomes one dimensional. I hope its not what is happening, but let’s see how they play next week. Either way, they were not going to go undefeated the rest of the year, so I guess losing in GB is not the worst things. Its a good test to see if they will bounce back now that the world will start talking shit about them again.
"Right after the game, say as little as possible."
- Tom Landry
Good points.
But I didn’t see Williams get disproportionately targeted. And if he did to any extent, it certainly wasn’t a bigger problem than Romo getting constantly bumrushed.
Roy's Big Yards
His stats for the game look pretty good…..5 for 105 and the only touchdown. What they don’t reflect is the fumble that was the most important play of the game at the end of the first half. They also don’t show the clueless route he ran right before the goal line interception that ended all hope.
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by Cowboys Oldtimer on Nov 15, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
He left as many yards on the field a he actually gained
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Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
That was rough
Between Roy willy’s butterfingers and the refs gifting the pack a touchdown, this one was hard to watch.
The important thing is the injuries, does anyone know if Jenkins and hamlin are okay?
it would not have mattered
the O did not have 3 points in them except for garbage score
You dont know about that
if that fumble was ruled correctly who knows what the outcome would have been.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Learn The Rules
Think about it. Once the ball is fumbled, possesion cannont be reversed by replay. I agree it was a hose job. But that is the rule. Wouldn’t be surprised if the competition committee looks at this one.
by Cowboys Oldtimer on Nov 15, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
Learn superior comprehension
I didn’t say it should have been reviewed, I said it should have been called correctly on the field. if you are going to call me out at least read what I said.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Learn superior comprehension
I didn’t say it should have been reviewed, I said it should have been called correctly on the field. if you are going to call me out at least read what I said.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
let's not forget witten's
contribution today.
a stupid penalty which costs us a big gain and he missed a chip block very early in the game that cost us on throd down.
free seemed to hold his own during the game.
by oneforthethumb on Nov 15, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
Definitely on the offense, but...
Why can’t the Cowboys ever seem to get off the field when they have the other team in 3rd and long? I know this secondary is supposedly improved, but it sure doesn’t feel like it.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 6:44 PM CST reply actions
They did ok early
It wasn’t until GB had already had them on the field for 25 minutes in the game that they started to break down. And that is going to happen when the offense can’t keep the defense off the field.
by deadrody7774 on Nov 15, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
It isn't just this game that I'm talking about.
It has been a problem all season. That’s why Football Outsiders has us ranked so low on 3rd down defense even though our percentage is decent – because we tend to fail in situations where most other teams hold, like 3rd and 7 or more.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
I agree...
It has definitely been our defense’s achilles heel. Until it gets fixed, this defense cannot be considered elite.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 15, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, what's up with that?
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, what's up with that?
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
I can't personally tell you what's causing us to be so bad on 3rd down
Is it play calling?? Just not executing?? I have no idea. Probably doesn’t help that in 3rd and long our DB’s are usually playing a LONG way off.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Scandrick
It looked like the packers were picking on him once Jenkins went out…
It looked like that was a lot of the problem on those 3rd and longs..but I’m not entirely sure it will require some tape study
Definitely...
This game proves that Jenkins >>>> Scandrick. Seems like for whatever reason he doesn’t put his hands up or try to make a play on the ball.
I agree...
To me this game proved that Jenkins is way further along then Scandrick. For whatever reason it seems like he won’t try to make a play on the ball or even put his hands up.
Definitely went after Scandrick
I like Scan, but when he’s forced to step up to #2 he hasn’t fared well, to put it mildly.
All the nonsense about him pushing T-New to #3 next season can stop now.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
I have no idea...we should blitz more heavily ithink
this is ridiculous. There is no excuse for not gettign off the field on third and 13+
I thought we blitzed too heavily
leading to coverage lapses.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
I don't mean rushing 5 guys
I mean7 or 8 like philly does and force the qb to get rid of the ball immediately.
I don’t know lol im making crap up. No matter what we try, we fail week in and week out.
I absolutely agree...
A five man rush against a team in near max protect does nothing but hang our secondary out to dry.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 15, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
our coaches couldnt figure out the off line problems. r. williams made 2 key mistakes that cost us drives and momentum. injuries hurt us too.
i think we got out coached today
Capers schooled Red
I think Dom knew Red’s tendency and gapped the bliztzes to take advantage of them.
he coppied the eagles and attacked the a gap with both linebackers
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
at which point
Garrett needs to game plan Wit and the rbs back into the passing game, and run the ball to pull the dogs off.
by RA*9 on Nov 15, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
definitely
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
definitely
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
definitely
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
I agree even more than Aaron did
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Couple of double posts
and now a triple? Step up your game Mr Novinger
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
Dang, I guess I should stop being stubborn when it takes to long to post.
While you guys are popping up comments, it’s been freezing up the board.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
I posted one and then it just automatically started to post another one.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
lol
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
Offense is just putrid sometimes
Frankly I think this game really went south on the first play of the second half. GB played tough tough defense the whole first half and Garrett’s answer coming out of the locker room was a thoroughly predictable dive up the middle. Thanks for the latest moment of genius Rudy.
TO effect.
"Right after the game, say as little as possible."
- Tom Landry
The offense went to hell after Colombo went down.
At least that’s how I saw it. Romo kept getting pressure from the right side and hardly had any time to throw. Garrett’s play-calling didn’t help anything though.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
This game is so ugly I'd just prefer to throw the game tape of the offense away
The D did fine, except in 3rd and longs.
i agree
but, GB is good offense. They are eventually going to get theirs, they didn’t mentally beat themselves like we did. Penalties, TO’s, and missed assignments.. WOW
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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The packers had 9 penalties
they tried
We were just better at it
LOL
very true.. upped their penalties and added turnovers.
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penalties were even
honestly, the entire difference in the game was
a. Roys two screw ups
b. OL playing bad for the whole game
c. Our defense inability to get off the field.
i think it would've been a different game
if Folk hadn’t missed the fg. That seemed to suck the air out of us. You saw it on Romo’s face, and if RW hadn’t fumbled the ball. That was a big momentum switcher as everyone knows. If we go in halftime with a 6-3 or 10-3 lead, the second half probably turns out differently.
I agree with Grizz
Plenty of blame to go around, we looked awful on offense. The line play was terrible, what is going on with Flo? Time after time he missed key blocks.
Time to tuck this one away and learn from our mistakes. Hopefully Jenkins and hamlin are ok.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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I will make this my mantra to my grave
take a link out of the chain, it falls apart.
We lost Columbo, and couldn’t recover.
Thank you Romo for at least preventing the blank.
Knowing is half the battle. http://deartracyp.blogspot.com
by Captain Grid Iron on Nov 15, 2009 6:48 PM CST reply actions
the line was bad before he got hurt.
Folk started the unraveling..
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i totally agree
Folk started the meltdown. that missed kick may have only kept 3 points off of the board, but it erased a lot of momentum. he’s not the same kicker he used to be…
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
that depresses me
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Me too.
I thought the days of me holding my breath on even routine FG’s was over. Guess not
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Deja Vu to Lin Elliot era
somehow Dallas won a SB without needing a clutch FG all season.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
McBriar is taking the blame for the missed FG.
Didn’t get the laces spun around again like in the KC game or something.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
You're going to be saying that for the next 3 months??
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I agree with Grizz
Plenty of blame to go around, we looked awful on offense. The line play was terrible, what is going on with Flo? Time after time he missed key blocks.
Time to tuck this one away and learn from our mistakes. Hopefully Jenkins and hamlin are ok.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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Worst game this season for the O-line
Roy WIlly and Folk killed off any possible momentum. Defense was gassed.
I think I’ve summed up the game.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Defense was gassed
it all started with the loss of Columbo
Knowing is half the battle. http://deartracyp.blogspot.com
by Captain Grid Iron on Nov 15, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
true.
We lost turnover battle.. Raf said if don’t turn the ball over we win..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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we lost the turnover battle***
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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I would like to see us put Free on the left side and Flo on the right side
If he is our guy it is time to see
I like that idea..
Flo seems too slow to be playing LG at the moment. He has great games and then clunkers like this..
Free has looked hit or miss at times.. if he can get full reps in practice this could be viable
Great minds think alike!
And so do ours on this one.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
I like it..
Email Jason Garrett and Wade
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I was thinking that too
buti thought I’d get killed for saying it.
They need to at least look at it. I watched Flo play RT at the Pro Bowl a few years ago and he looked like it was his natural position
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I agree
If Free fails they can always switch back, but it’s worth a shot.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
If we did it against the Raiders or something I wouldn't mind.
Not against a decent opponent though.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
Luckily, this game wasn't super important.
I know that they are all important, but the Cowboys still have a 1 game division lead, 2 winnable games coming up, and then December and January which we all knew would be their true test all along.
This game was just way more important to the Packers than it was to the Cowboys, and it definitely showed.
As long as the Cowboys win their next 2 very winnable games and then go at least 3-2 over their last 5, they should take the division.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 6:50 PM CST reply actions
I agree...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Dallas better be 8-3 after Thanksgiving dinner...
…and this game will be long forgotten, just like the Denver epic fail.
+1
That was fortunate for us.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
+2
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
The game was over when the refs blew the fumble call.
I’m not blaming them, because the offense was just not good, but after that, there just wasn’t time to catch up.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 6:54 PM CST reply actions
the call wasn't correct..
Felix had control and was touched down..
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yea the call was wrong
but there was somehow nothing they could do about it.
Gotta love bizzare rules...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 15, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
The replay call was correct, in that it wasn't reviewable.
But they blew the actual call that Wade wanted reviewed. Felix clearly recovered the fumble and was down by contact.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
+1
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
on another random note:
we lost two fumbles because Austin and Felix couldn’t hold onto the ball in a pile.
I still cannot believe
we did not get that Austin recovery. He clearly had the ball before being piled on. That was an absolute terrible call.
The worst call though was on that lost fumble in which they said Felix didn’t have it. It was the worst because if you watch the tape, the nearest ref was clearly signaling Felix down before getting taken out by one of our lineman. Sure enough the other ref didn’t call him down and GB got the ball.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 15, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
it really does..
Packers are a solid team. Just frustrates me how often this team beats itself.. It is a major flaw..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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it really does..
Packers are a solid team. Just frustrates me how often this team beats itself.. It is a major flaw..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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Pakers are a solid team?
Check last week…..they got beat by winless Tampa Bay
by Cowboys Oldtimer on Nov 15, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
This was Green Bay's Super Bowl...
plain and simple…
by TheCowboyFan on Nov 16, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
Actually, Favre coming to GB was their super bowl
This was the consolation game
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Let's be prifessional
I’m hopeful the ’Boys feel every ounce of the pain this loss brought for the rest of tonight…and then tomorrow forget about it and focus on the Redskins. Every team is going to lay a stinker like this one. The true test is how they bounce back. At least the Eagles lost again.
Personally, I have to hand it to the O for fighting for that garbage TD at the end of the game. It’s like they scored it for the D because the O sucked so bad.
It sucks for Colombo. Free has gotten some praise this year. Hopefully, he will shine like Mkles Austin did when he got the starting nod.
I, for one, haven’t lost an ounce of confidence in this team.
by JoeWho on Nov 15, 2009 6:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Funny, but...
I know of two teams who have stinkers and yet find a way to win in the NFC- N.O. and Minn. I love my boys and am proud of them this year, but I think this shows we are not on the level of those two teams. If we can just get 1 playoff win this year, I think the year will be a success.
we definitely are not
but recent history says you don’t need to be in the regular season, only in that 1 playoff game.
NO and Minny have undoubtedly better offenses than us
haha good point by strahn
this conference is a turnstile. Once you think you know something about anyone other than Minny and NO, you get proven wrong.
I actually don't mind him either as an analyst
but it seems to me he kinda has a favorable opinion of dallas, so that is why.
Isns't he from Texas??
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
That's true I guess..
I just really didn’t like him last year when he was all over the giant’s man-parts…
But he really never was the Cowboy hater like .. let’s say Tiki of Keyshawn
NO let STL drop 23 pts on them
had a chance to win.. they got lucky
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We needed..
Bill Parcells to hang the mouse traps from the locker room…
We weren’t gonna win them all..
Some of us got overconfident
especially after seeing GB lose to the Bucs last week…
But the reality is, GB is a good team, they were desperate for the win at home in Lambeau.
A win here would have put us in really great position, but with the Iggles loss we’re basically treading water and still in good position.
The loss of Columbo is actually bigger than the loss of the game.
And altho Free is active as a swing tackle, isn’t he really a LT, and it’s McQ who played RT with the 2nd team in camp? Could we see McQ starting next week with Free still at swing backup?
What matters now is how well they bounce back and compensate for the injuries.
all you fools need to wake up
if Columbo hadn’t gone down the line would have gelled
like the past 4 weeks
Knowing is half the battle. http://deartracyp.blogspot.com
by Captain Grid Iron on Nov 15, 2009 6:58 PM CST reply actions
gelled?
Romo was running for his life last week.
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well, they were blitzing
but we were doing a decent job picking up the blitz and making them pay for it… this week, not so much
sometimes
After the last two weeks….I think defenses will continue to blitz this team heavily untill we show we can pick it up and make them pay.
and when you can't pick up the blitz
Witten and maybe another rb has to stay in block. One solution would be to go to 2 TEs.
we had shots
Roys fumble was a killer
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His drop was just as bad
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
His drop was just as bad
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah...
The O line never gels until the second half of the game in week 10… WE are fools.
Doug Free is my man
at left tackle, I’m afraid he will struggle at right but we’ll see
I'm with you. He's probably better at LT and I hate to see Colombo go down, but Free should be pretty good.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
Jenkins hands to the face was a killer..
We would have the ball 1st and goal..
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yeah that was a big one
can can’t forget the Felix non-recovery bad call… that one might not have made the ultimate difference, but it sure didn’t help
yes..
Killer. How do you miss that..
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yes..
Killer. How do you miss that..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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there were so many big penalties
Honestly ithought they were pretty ticky tacky. a few of them.
There was no hands to the face...
That was a terrible call to negate Scandrick’s sack/fumble recovery/TD…that changed the game in my book.
by TheCowboyFan on Nov 15, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
I thought the same thing
I never saw Jenkins hands get higher than the receivers shoulders.
It was ticky tack
He didn’t push the WR’s head back (which is the only time they should call that) Jenkins barely touched the facemask. That was a big play overturned with a really cheap call.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
I agree.
Really questionable call. C’mon refs!
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
It happened, but it was pretty weak.
Wasn’t intentional that’s for sure, it was just incidental.
Jimmy Johnson for GM.
This team, while they got beat, was not the chief problem this week
Let’s just hope we never get this officiating crew again. They were abominable.
The problem was not that they ate the cheese, but that they didn’t eat the cheese! Get it??? hahaha
This team is still good, and I don’t think that they lost because of having a big head. They just played poorly and the refs totally screwed them over on top of that. That = loss, regardless of confidence.
while the refs stunk
good teams overcome that. If Roy had made those catches, i think we may have – we may have gotten the lead and never looked back. Same with the folk kick.
On a side note, FOlk has not been reliable this year
I agree - not the refs' fault.
And I also agree about Folk. I am really questioning carrying 2 kickers at this point. I realize that every kicker is going to miss one here and there, but at the current rate, it doesn’t seem to be beneficial to tie up 2 roster spots. If Folk’s going to miss anyway, why not just let Buehler have a shot?
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
i think folk may be on a short leash from now on
im not sure how many more kicks the coaching staff is gonna let him miss.
I hope so.
Because with the injuries, those roster spots are getting to be even more valuable, not to mention the active game slots.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
I've lost my confidence that Folk will make every kick
I’m back to my normal worrying self at FG time.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
+1
I Folkin’ miss ole Mr. Solid.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
+3
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Kickers are creeps.
They’re the pop divas of the NFL. They’re all due for a breakdown. Just look at Vanderjagtoff: most accurate kicker of all-time until he lost it.
Folk = Vanjagt
it wasn’t a drawn out decline, just a sharp drop. cut him. let beuhler kick and activate another lineman
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
not yet
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
You can't put it on the refs
but I agree it would have helped. If our offensive line could have handled the blitz we could have overcome and avoided the mistakes that allowed the refs to hurt us. The O-line owes Tony a huge apology because they sold him out all night.
On another note, I have no idea why you throw on 1st and goal at the one. I would actually prefer the Razorback to that stupid call.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 15, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Can't we all agree the hands to the face on the fumble runback....
….Was a phantom call? 7-0 being erased is a bigger downer than Folk’s early miss. Now, I’m certainly not complaining because the Cowboys were awful on offense and deserved to lose. But I think that call deserves to be revisited.
I agree that call was way ticky-tack...
Just wasn’t a good day all in all. Just gotta come out and stick it to the Redskins next week.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 15, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
just imagine having that officiating crew for the bulk of your season!
that would suck…
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
I was on another site.
And they were complaining about how many penalties the Seahawks/Cards game had and how unwatchable it was. Lo and behold, that game only had 20 penalties and the Cowboys/Pack game had 22. That’s not even getting into the zebras taking five minutes to figure out the Packers were out of timeouts and thus incapable of challenging a call.
Yeah, I can't believe there's no penalty for phantom challenges.
I hope those refs get fined or something.
so can we expect Colombo to go on IR??
or will he be back at some point??
After Fuentes blows a save and an Angels loss to the Indians:
"Angels still in first place" - UCI Halo
"Hey you know who would have gotten those 3 outs in the 9th?
Darren O’Day." - FirebatM3
LOL
Wade just said he's having surgery tomorrow, but says he may not be out for
the season. Don’t see how that could be.
me either..
Wade still playing cat and mouse. give it up, he is going to the IR.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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from a broken leg?
really?
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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I read somewhere that he could come back for the playoffs, but I would imagine his leg would be super weak in supporting that big body.
Hopefully, he can be ready for the SuperBowl.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
What would be worse?
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Fibula
Yeah, I’m pretty sure I heard Buck say it was the fibula. It’s not a weight-bearing bone. I have a med school test on the lower extremity tomorrow, so Mullin is the expert here, but it isn’t nearly the same as a broken tibia
Yeah, what's so hard about just saying the guy is going the hell out???
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Classci let down after the big win in philly..saw this one comming
Bot the end of the world though…Still 6-3 and on top in the east…Just a bump in the road
i predicted a greenbay win too
but not like this
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
What happened?
I had Dallas banking this game in their pocket. How did Romo do? Was the weather that bad?
Fire Bruce DeHaven.
I thought you guys had that game one at quarter time.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
I thought you guys had that game one at quarter time.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
Just overall sloppy, inefficient play.
Turnovers, penalties, dropped passes, sacks, allowing 3rd and long conversions, etc. And then add in injuries and a couple of tough calls. They just outplayed and outcoached us.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
Romo was fine
The ol was brutal. Columbo done for the year probably. Terrible ol play, everyone was at fault too, Flo got burned badly which led to two fumbles and the interior line was suspect. Roy had two backbreakingly bad plays which prevent our offense from potentially getting rolling
Defensively we played well, the score doesn’t do them justice.
Cowboys D played great most of the game and then just ran out of gas because our offensive line was horrible. Our offense was just shut down
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
The D played great and was gassed...
but there are such things as three and outs which they didn’t have enough of. Their 3rd down defense was awful.
by TheCowboyFan on Nov 16, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Skip Bayless
Still riding with Dallas in the nfc east..
RT@RealSkipBayless: Cowboys had some bad injuries (Columbo, Jenkins) but they will still win the NFC East. Book it.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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i forgot no name calling
does that apply to skip?
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
Not a fan either..
He called the GB game right too, ugh..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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The world is upside down
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
and tilted 23 degrees
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
oh God. Skippy is picking the Cowboys?!
the world is upside down…
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
actually...
Skip used to cover the cowboys back in the 90’s. While there, he wrote three books about the Cowboys. Didn’t know this myself till just a couple of days ago.
This is annoying
Packers are supposed to be bunch of push overs. This was the game I expected us to win.
it was bad
Woodson made a great pick.. Circumstantial pick though.. Normally on 1st and goal from the 1 u call in the barbarian..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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it was bad
the game was basically over at that point though. It was a great play by Woodson too.
Play was rushed we were already in a bad position
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
why didn't we run there?
you have marion barber and you’re on the 1…
+24
Where was the Bigg package? That really frustrated me. Why throw?
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
Green Bay is a good team with a strong D and it was a must win for them at home.
We’ll bounce back.
Our offensive problems clearly start on the offensive line. The worst part about Marc Colombo’s injury is that now there’s no chance of Doug Free taking Flozell’s job no matter how many assignments he blows or flags get thrown on him.
5 sacks and at least 10 other knockdowns of our QB, plus defenders in the backfield on most running plays.
I’m just really thankful Romo didn’t get seriously hurt. It reminded me of last years Arizona game the way he was getting smacked around. That Romo fumble that sealed our fate was on Flozell all the way. How does a 12 year vet continue to make those mistakes? He doubles up on Kosier’s man and lets a sprinting CB have a completely free shot on Romo’s back! Fumble, game over.
I was thinking the same thing
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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+1
Big game for GB and we played like crap.
officiating was very sketchy today.
does any qb take more hits to the head than Romo?
by oneforthethumb on Nov 15, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
it won' be
were gonna have to win a war like the eagles game. Hopefully we actually keep possesion of the ball for some length of time next game.
another 20-17 affair as
long as the offense shows up at all.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'm hoping more like 20-6
this defense has gotten better every week, they could (hopefully) ompletely shut down washington
but you'e probably right..
it’ll be a battle
How is it possible that we only had 14 rushing attempts all game?
We averaged 4.4 yards per rush too. I was also really upset when McCarthy attempted a 3rd challenge. Either he is a total moron that can’t count or he did it on purpose to upset the rhythm of the drive. I think that attempting to challenge when you’re out of them should be a penalty or a charged timeout.
We can bounce back from this – I’m less worried about peaking too early now. This will hopefully refocus them.
3rd challange is supposssed to be a penalty i believe
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
I thought so, too.
At least a delay of the game, if nothing else. I know it’s a penalty if they try to challenge inside the 2 minute warning.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
should be some kind of penalty
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
3 of those were Romo scrambles
So yeah, I think we abandoned the run way too early
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yea, it's not like we were down big and had to pass
If we wanted to try to sustain drives and their blitzes were working well, why didn’t we rush more. It was only 3-0 at halftime
what?!
Garret abandoning the run too early?! Say it ain’t so.
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
time to move on .........
just one of those games where they didn ot show up after a big win the week before…no biggie even though its frustrating
the loss hurts, but we can bounce back..
Like NYG loss, I don’t blame this one on the coaches.The game plan wasn’t bad, but the execution was.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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I think its oversimplifying it to say we didn't show up
the line may be a serious issue from here on out.
This subject has surely been covered, BUT the league needs to take a hard look
at today’s officiating crew.
Wharter
last week too
they were equally as bad
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
no big deal, we're still in 1st place
I thought we’d lose one of these road games in November and I’m glad it was to GB and not the Eagles.
We just have to beat our East opponents, and we’ll win the division.
And for all the Doug Free fans, you just got your wish, now we’ll see if he’s the real deal.
In Romo we Trust
Ohhhh nooooooo
i said Free was better than Flo, hes not quite as good a Colombo, and he’s not a right tackle
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
I got news for you
If he can’t play RT he sure as hell is not good enough to play LT.
In Romo we Trust
thats not how it works Terry
i wish it were,
I will just have to wait and see, Hell, they might put McQuistan out there, he is the backup right tackle after all.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
I wanted Columbo, not Flo
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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What bothers me is
they worked McQuistan at right tackle after our rookie got hurt, they took Doug out of the right tackle sweepstakes.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
It could still be McQuistan next week.
He wasn’t active this game, though.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 15, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
McQuistan is our backup RT
Free is the active backup swing tackle for game day, but isn’t McQ the backup RT? Couldn’t we see him start next week and Free still be the swing backup?
in his radio show this week Jerry said Martellus could make a hell of a LT
well maybe he could play RT instead lol
Grizz...
Columbo has a Fx tibia?? I thought it was fibula..
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
Fibula
Is that the shin?
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
The lower leg is made up of two bones
The Tibia and The Fibula…
Tibia take over 90% of the body weight
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
Cool.
Thanks.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
none that weren't called back I don't think
McB almost made a nice FF
I am worried about Folk tho. He used to be a sure thing, I had total confidence even on FGs close to 50 yards. Now I have doubt every time even on short ones.
I want to see him attack the ball like it's his and his only.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
He was like, “GIMME THAT!”
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
I pin this one on two people...
Turnstile Flo and Roy Whiner. Flo, if you can’t do better than that, please do the team a favor and go ahead and ride off into the sunset of retirement.
Roy Williams, you need to quit your sarcastic complaining of how everyone just thinks you suck for no reason. I saw one pass go through your hands and nail you in the facemask and then you motion like the pass was too high. Nice accountability, loser.
i agree
but individual players can play a bigger part in the loss than others.
I agree terry
they are frustrated but it makes us look bad to just start blaming…..53 players win or lose
hmmmm...
Avoid making people accountable. This would definitely improve coaching. Maybe they will just make big scheme adjustments to the entire offensive package to overcome the mistakes of one or two. I’m sure that’s how Lombardi would have done it, right?
Lombardi's a pretty high ceiling there.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
there is a difference between making players accountable
and blaming them for the loss…huge difference.
In Romo we Trust
The team lost...
But probably wouldn’t have if two players had done their jobs. But look at it any way that lets you sleep at night.
I agree on Roy's fumble
That was a huge mistake. BIG!
But he actually did make some plays, and looked like him and Romo have found their connection, so that’s good going forward.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
ohh...
just a little disclaimer. I said “I pin this one” on so and so. I didn’t say everyone must share my opinion. All I do is watch the game, but I do think I’m allowed to make observations… I think.
and terry
is allowed to disagree, maybe he could do it a little nicer though
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
I am not sugar coating anything ,I refuse to blame anyone....
I saw a GB team that looked hungry and inspired at home for a win they needed. I felt Dallas went into this game with a mindset to win but didn’t throw everything onto the field to do it. The refs had nothing to do with it. The missed blocks, missed assignments, bad secondary defense at the end, etc. were due to GB being more aggressive than we were in this game. Injuries are a bad thing and guys GB has a shit load of injuries. We were one of the most healthy teams in the league and well its our turn. This game felt good to me right up until the missed field goal and then well it just seemed to stall from there on. Dallas needs to look back at this game for what it is. These teams are so close due to the salary cap and Dallas has to want it every game. I was saddened by the fact GB took it to us. That right there should tell this team to get up and kick washington and Oakland in the mouth if they want to be a good team this year.
Congrats GB , now boys lets kick ass …….Go Cowboys!!!
welll
look as we got shot to death this game its a shame had to fight not 2 b shut out . Our offensive play calling suck MB 5 rushes for 24 yards. What a waste>>>
It seem to me no one trust the cowboys as for as analyst goes Cboys get how and is suppose to win they lay and egg ( with the help of officials) but the way our O play i doubt it would have matter>>>>>>
I hope JG take a great thought process this week to look in this team identity on O. 50/50 not 99/1
the play calling did not suck
the execution did
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
yes
missed fg
droped 50 yd pass/ fumble
20 yard drop
flo the human turnstile
ect-ect-ect
there are no calls for those things
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
but romo sack 5 times
when they should have run. yea i give u all that but check >>>the last ii check the time off possession GB had like 30 some minutes to our 14 i do know they double us…. Our D broke!!!!!!!
do you understand the play calling didn't make
Flozell not block or Williams eat buttery popcorn before the game.?
There was nothing Garrett could do
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
If barber hass 5 rushes the play calling suck guy
All that stuff u talk is efficient to defend JG but until that lost fumble that felix was suppose to recover>>>> the game could have went either way. 4 Jg not to establish anything on the ground is ridiculous.
Romo was getting ate in the pocket so>>> y not utlize the Rb more…. Pl\us everyone in the league thought the Cboys was going to come out running but all and all JJ was piss offf.
Trust me we should have ran the rock more this game
I wish they could've established the running game cuz Barber looked good.
But, they didn’t have the ball enough to do that.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
First half breakdown
was 8 run and 13 pass plays I think. Which is pretty balanced.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
yea 1st half
but was their balance in the play calling did they utilize the run and pass in combination or it was it like what ever.
It looked like players not executing
Not Garrett calling bad plays.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
+1
Except that 1st and goal call from the 1.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
-1
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
they should have.
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I hope we see the Pack in the playoffs.
Seek and destroy.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather play them than the Giants, or Eagles
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Home field against the Pack or Eagles would be nice.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Home field against the Pack or Eagles would be nice.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
How can the refs have nothing to do with it?
The call on Jenkins that negated Sacndrick’s sack and fumble was phantom. That changed the game. The fumble recovery by Felix was another missed call that cost points. Argh. But yes they blew it with a bad offense. The Redskins handled Denver. I wouldn’t look past Washington.
The Fibula
Is the outside lower leg bone and takes from 5-7% of your body weight… he could come back…
if that’s what happened
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
I haven't seen the x-rays or evaluated him so it tough to speculate... could be 3-4 weeks.. could be longer... it dependes on the size of the FX
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
guys hes out ...probably for the year......
they only have so many spots and they cant leave this open….they need someone to take that spot that can contribute
Well I am a certified nothing and I would
and you should be very suprised if he is not put on IR this week. That coming from a specialed nobody :)
I was insulting myself not you mullin lol
My uncle is a emergency room doctor 34 years and I talked to him and he told me that bit of info :)
but they have 8 inactive spots, anyways
I’d rather they hope he can come back rather than sign some scrub.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=4657799
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
So you think 4-6 weeks estimated recovery?
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
Yes...
But if it needs a plate and screws to heal could be longer…
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
Most offensive lineman
usually don’t come back after a leg break in the same season….there were a few that broke that bone last year close to first of the season and didnt return. With Marco having so many problems in the past with his knees , I would seriously doubt they want to rush him back. He could do like most people and hurt other parts of the body compensating for the main problem ,causing problems in other area’s of the leg…..IMO ofcourse. Lets hope he gets better regardless.
My take on the game
I blame this loss squarely on the offense. The Defense played well for the bulk of the game. Why does Jason Garett refuse to run the football. The game was close, and they could have established the run at any point during the game. That definitely would have slowed down the pass rush of the Packers. Our offensive line was horrible today, and Romo had little time to no time to throw. The goat of the game hands down to me is Roy Williams. He had a few big drops that killed momentum, and the fumble was a killer. Who knows how the game turns out if he holds onto the ball.
This game sucks, and I’m slightly disappointed. However, Green Bay needed this game more than the Cowboys this was their season, and they played a good game. Let’s not hit the panic button. Take care of business and we should be 8-3 going into December.
its hard to establish the run
when you’re going 3 and out all the time.
yup
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
yup
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
I really hope we sweep the Eagles.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
That's a real possibilty...don't you think that the Cowboys have in the back of their mind how sweet it would be
to turn the tables on the Eagles? Based on their win/loss record, that final game at Cowboys stadium might have playoff consequences…wouldn’t it be great to end the Eagles playoff hope on our home turf?
the players lost the game thats it
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
in his radio show this week Jerry said Martellus could make a hell of a LT
well maybe he could play RT instead lol
I would like to see that in some packages.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
if you can keep your head while those around lose theirs...
this was not unexpected; a road loss against a desperate team. If they’re the team I think they are this year they will win the next two.
We are still up by a game in the east.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"
two weeks we would have taken asplit
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Yes...
Right about the same time I wasn’t sure what direction this team was going to take and had my doubts. Good to go back there.
10/6 11/5
thats what this team is
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
seriously has anyone noticed the laggy
running Jones has been doing of late? Am I the only one seeing he is not running with the explosivness as in the first few games?
Agreed
He isnt the same as he was pre-injury
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
With the PCL injury
An athlete can’t plant and rotate like he did prior until it heals or has surgery
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
I know Mullin ...we agree. but he shouldn't be on the field
cause thats what his job is entitled to do ….run and cut :)…..IMO they should sit him if he is running that tentatively
Hopefully, this game will show them that it needs fixing...FAST!
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Dubious
please avoid the hard profanities, as from the site guidelines “No excessive profanity, especially the hard stuff. Occasionally using damn, hell, or similar is OK, outside of that, don’t do it.”
Otherwise good comments can get hidden if they contain profanity, so just bleep it out somehow and it’s all good.
he is so big I don't think he can come back
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
That may have little to do with it
It all depends on the severity of the break and where it is
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old
Some optimism from the Boston Brawler
“I’m mad but I’ll get back on the field as soon as possible and it’ll definitely be this season,” Colombo said. “We’ve got seven, eight weeks left in the season. I’m not a doctor but I know I’m going to go out and rehab as much as I can.”
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/11/marc-colombo-not-ruling-out-return-this.html
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
its encouraging but it would be more encouraging if he was a doctor saying this :)
players always say the right thing then they never come back for weeks after they said first
until they officially put him on IR
we wont be able to believe anything that is said.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't see the game
but it sounds like we are becoming more and more of a passing offence. Uggh.
If Colombo doesn’t go on IR, someone likely gets cut. Rossum?
Either hiim or CuJo, I would think.
I’m gonna do some digging on what’s going on with Robert Brewster. Need some depth now other than the McQ twins.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
CuJo had at least 2 block-in-the-back penalties
If he’s not good enough to rush the passer, then he better not make dumb penalties on ST.
I wouldn't say that necessarily
We couldn’t do anything on offense for most of the game until the last few minutes and then we had to run it ’cause we were down by 3 scores
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Per DMN
Dallas Cowboys offensive guard Leonard Davis made his 41st consecutive start with Marc Colombo next to him at right tackle. It will be a while before they team up again.
Colombo went out during the first quarter of Sunday’s loss at Green Bay because of a broken left fibula. Cowboys owner-general manager Jerry Jones indicated it likely will be a season-ending injury.
``It’s big,‘’ Davis said. ``He’s a guy that I’ve been playing with for a long time. Half the battle is communicating, knowing what the guy next to you is going to be doing on certain plays versus certain looks.’’
Doug Free, who has never started an NFL game, replaced Colombo. Davis said Free did well under the conditions, and they will get to work on communication during the coming week of practice
Damn
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
Good point
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
I thought...
Philly had the defense that was going to give us fits with their rush. Who knew the Pack’s defense was the reincarnation of the 85 bears? Or did we just make them look that way? Here’s hoping the Redskins don’t blitz much next week.
No kidding!
They were all over the place like green and yellow gnats. SuperBowl Sunday for them!
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I hate the Packers. Jerkiest team in the North.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
really?
they’re the jilted former team of a certain “old man winter” who happens to be playing in their division SOLELY for the purpose of kicking their butts twice a year…
the Vikes are the turds of the north (in my most humble opinion)
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
I like watching the Vikes.
The Packers just always seem to be in the Cowboys’ way.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
i like watching AP
i never could stand Farve…
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
I picked up Sidney Rice in FF, so Favre's chemistry with him has made me happy.
He had over 200 yards receiving today!
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Makes me wish we had drafted a WR
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
What about your "ace in the hole"
Colston against the Rams?
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
The Rams brought their “A” game! Shoulda had that at the end there.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah Benson going down didnt help you either
Both our teams have scored pretty poorly this week.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Though I would like addai to be on the field
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Here comes Reggie Wayne!
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
All over I think
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
most of the league would have beaten either of us this week
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
I had Colston on my team. He sucked.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
ahhh
i passed on ff this year. life got too busy
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
I gots to say.
Favre deserves the hate. Those weepy-eyed faux retirement press conferences were all that is “unman.” How fitting for that old queen to retire (if he ever does) in purple.
untill we beat teams deep
I expect teams to blitz the crap out of us.
Better to have to deal with a flaw in the system now rather than later.
Let’s see how Boy Blunder diagnoses whatever flaw it was that the Packers exposed.
Like mister Krabbs told spongebob...
“Boy, what doesn’t kill you… usually succeeds on the second try”.
LOL
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
trust me we made them look that good
we can say all this stuff>>> but we should have ran the ball that would have took alot of pressure from Romo.
Like they said on NFL network they did not let there CB’s play off our Wideouts they playd real physical. plus blitzes
I tell u its was JG who made GB look so great>>>>> like i said they calld him out on NFl network Irvin seem reluctant to call him out bc he got our pom poms and he has close relations with this team.
If we ran more and mix it into our play calling we would had better manageable 3rd downs .
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PASS BLOCKING AND RUN BLOCKING!!!!
About the REDSKINS THEY WILL BRING IT u know it i know the whole world know it. They hate the crap out of us if they can go 1-16 and have that 1 W against us that would make there whole season.
If we cant handle GB ….plz some help us!!!!
This game was lost by the offensive line
Period.
by torchindefenses on Nov 15, 2009 8:06 PM CST reply actions
nothing on O was working
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Oh no,
as I was corrected earlier on this blog, that was just a mirage. The entire team actually lost that game…
Take the split and be happy
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Split of whom?
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Depends on whose split it is. LOL
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
you know guys .....
I have seen the Cowboys have big injuries and a guy steps up that would have never had the chance otherwise. This could be a good time for Dallas to see what they have in Free and also give Free a chance to prove he is a good pick. You never know till they play and unfortunately its usually due to injury. Eevery player had a time when they have never started an NFL game. Let’s let Free loose :)
Just wish it wasn't our one good tackle that got hurt
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
well true but if Free does avg. well
then we know we have a good player for the future and also if another injury happens
I did play by plays on Doug in the pre season and they need to run right behind him
to give him some confidence.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
I agree.
This is why they drafted him. Hell, the Pack started a draft pick at tackle from THIS year. He’s had a few to develop…
OHHHHHhh my…Isaiah Stanback just caught a pass!
Sorry, got distracted.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
good for him
i just wish he could’ve developed somewhere else…
i hate the pats
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
me2
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
As much as any other position, a backup LT generally just isn’t going to get much playing time until it’s by necessity. Now we’ll see what he is. The biggest concern is the communication as much as the raw skill, we were just so fortunate to have a line that has been together for so many starts and can know what each other are going to do. So we’ll have to try not to judge him too harshly right away as he gets some practice time and game experience to get the communication going.
Stanback just made a catch for NE
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
+9
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
Players get hurt
if you can’t overcome it you not a good team
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
not true
sometimes the healthiest teams win
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
+1
we’ve been blessed by lack of injuries. Now we’re like most teams, and still in better shape than a lot at this point in the season.
Did anyone just see Isaiah Stanback just catch a 1st down for NE??
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Then it's a good thing I posted it when I did
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
How could anyone not be watching that game
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
We have our QB and it could be worse
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
and our linebackers
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Just had a nice dinner...would have been much better had the Cowboys won...
what’s been going on here?
concern about Colombo
planning on dismantling the ‘Skins
smack talkin’ on refs
watching Stanback
sad about Folk’s inaccuracy
some props to the D
hoping for better pass protection and a focus on the running game
the usual
What you have for dinner?
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for the update Aaron. Concise and to the point...I like it!
I hope the Cowboys send a letter to the league about the officiating…
Pasta Alfredo…
The league will file it right next to the letter
from the Eagles about that spot on the 4th down play that went a long way towards helping you guys win last week. I’ll grant you the Jones fumble recovery looked like he had it for a split second, but he’s really got to hold on to that. It wasn’t nearly as bad of a call as the one that hosed the Bucs today against the Dolphins.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 15, 2009 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
Look at the replay in the Eagles game, even moved up it didn't reach the tip of the beak...they needed to get just past the
beak for a first down…and it still didn’t mean the Eagles were going to score a touchdown, because it wasn’t like the Eagles were inside our 10 yard line…
The missed call today was more evident…not crying over spilled milk, just want to make sure a complaint is issued so that this officiating crew has no chance to officiate in the playoffs…
When he's not taking it easy...
“Sometimes I take plays off. I play when I want to play”. LOL
Why can't our WR's get downfield on a safety alone??
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
But...
It wasn’t his fault, it was the teams fault…
huh?
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Sarcasm
Just another point from an earlier argument… (I really do blame Roy).
In the replay it looked like he had a good hold on the ball.
Can’t believe Woodson was able to pop it out.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Convinced we've been cursed
by the turnover gods this year… too many odd turnovers…
Hackeysack INTs
Blooper fumbles
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
I thought he just hit his arm down a little and the ball just fell out. Didn't look like a hard hit
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I blame Roy too, but if we want the team to do well...
We got to hope he learns from this mistake and does better next time…
getting tired of hope
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
true that
I have to admit that after the TD, I was having miraculous comebacks (ala Bills ’07) running thru my head.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
At least Roy took blame after the game...
…on the bright side he won’t be bitchin’ if Romo starts throwing less to him in the future…
Yeah, that was a good sign.
So, was the 20 yard reception in the first series and the other reception he fumbled.
It was just too strange a game to put all the blame on him, some of the blame, not all.
Wade's fault actually...
DVR it and you will see…
LOL
Don’t blame Roy. It was the one armed man that did it. Wait…that was Roy.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Moss is absolutely going off tonight
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
Who is the White?
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Snow White.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
We shoulda offered the Raiders a 3rd.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Two thirds?? That's a little much. LOL
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Jerry's a cockhat who couldn't draft an elite receiver to save his life.
The homers who cover his ass by stating “how risky picking a receiver high is” make me sick.
Chill Out
Our WR situation is pretty good right now.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Agree.
I admit I’ve been a big critic of Austin and I couldn’t have been more wrong. On the other hand, I don’t think Jerry should be endlessly praised for unearthing some gems. The Austin find (and wasn’t that more of a tip Jerry got from friends of the organization much like Payton endorsing Romo?) needs to ultimately be weighed against the Roy trade.
But this mandate that Jerry won’t pick a receiver before the 4th round (and even when he does it’s a lame-ass project) is downright goofy.
As much as I loathe the Patriots...
I would take a considerable amount of glee in seeing overrated Peyton Pussington get blowed out by Brady’s bunch. Just the mood I’m in.
Manning overrated?
Are you confusing Peyton and Eli?
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
One-and-done 6 out of 9 playoff appearances.
And sucked for much of the Colts’ Super Bowl run.
Look, I still don’t think Romo is in his league as a pure passer but it will be real fun to see all of his buttlickers try to explain why he is the greatest of all-time despite any real postseason success.
I've always liked brady over him
Brady always looks calm under pressure, Manning seems to unravel under it, especially against 3-4 Ds.
To be fair, Bradys had better teams every year though
Brady's better.
He can win multiple styles of games. He can win in the elements of New England (without all the flashy stats of course) but when he gets to the Super Bowl in comfy settings he lights it up. I still think he’s quite the douchebag. I’ll never forget that one clip of him bitching out his linemen because they missed an assignment when they were up 49-0 during their magical ’07 season. Reeks of a guy who is bitter because certain people call the tuck rule out for the crock it is much less Spygate.
i like peyton (significantly more than his brother)
it’s brady that i can’t stand. last year was still a good year even though the cowboys didn’t make the playoffs because i didn’t have to hear his name every freaking week.
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
+1
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Oh. I dislike Brady infinitely more.
It all goes back to the stinking tuck rule and then that gay celebration after the first Super Bowl win over the Rams where he pounded on Bledsoe’s shoulderpads like a little girl that just got voted Junior High homecoming queen.
But considering all the hatred Romo gets for being this non-entity beyond December, it’s unfathomable how much of a pass Manning gets for his no-shows in the postseason.
I honestly like eli
I like the way he has handled himself despite all the NY media pressure.
Is he a great qb? no way, but hes solid. I’d take him over 15 other guys in this league at least.
And hes not a jacka** like rivers.
Of course, I would take Romo over him without thinking twice.
I also like
that the Giants will be stuck with an above average, not elite qb for the next 10 years
best argument i've heard for eli ever!
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
The best thing about the Patriots possibly winning
is that there will be pie on Dungy’s face when he has to make excuses for the Colts after the game…
keep up with the times mister
can’t you see we’ve moved on to talk about the patriots!
No I agree, I hope hes not that hurt.
by Musiccitynorm on Nov 15, 2009 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
Still digesting my dinner...I haven't had my say about the Cowboys so I'm taking my moment...
besides, it looks like the Patriots might blow the Colts out at this point…
Only...
If they are certain he can come back relatively soon. Otherwise, we need depth that his spot could be preventing us from having.
Obviously, we need to look at better options if they are available...but I'm an optimist...
I firmly believe we make the playoffs and I want the nastiness that Columbo brings…
I'm sure they will know more tomorrow...
Has he been x-rayed by a specislist yet?
I kinda hope the Colts win.
I hate Belichick and his arrogance, and I still refuse to give the “golden boy” Brady all the accolades everyone heaps upon him. I think he lucked into the perfect situation and system. If he is God’s gift to QB’s , what happened at Michigan???
Boo Michigan
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Neutral...
I really don’t have an opinion on Michigan, just know Brady rode the bench there.
ND fan here
so its by default
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Did you know he started 25 games?
That isn’t exactly riding the bench
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Was that when Braylon was there?
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Wolverines not as nauseating as the Suckeyes.
I just hope a team like TCU crushes the stupid BCS system by making the National Title game.
what happened at Michigan?
Drew Hensen. nuff said…
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly...
Couldn’t beat out the great Drew Henson…lol.
yeah
pretty good idea to slam Tom Brady based on what he did in college. Better for your argument if you totally ignore what he has done through this decade.
here are some actual accolades you can dismiss as overblown:
2001 NFL Super Bowl MVP
2003 NFL Super Bowl MVP
2007 NFL AP MVP
2007 NFL PFWA MVP
2007 NFL Newspaper Ent. Assoc. MVP
2007 NFL Bert Bell Award (Player of the Year)
2007 NFL AP Offensive Player of the Year
Still hate him
and still discredit it as being in the perfect situation and scheme… also, could the league possibly make up some more rules to protect him?
and...
did I somewhow get transported to some alternate universe where I thought I was on a Cowboys blog, but am actually on a Gaytriots blog?
pwahahaha
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
I always figure guys who use sexuality as a slur
have latent issues with their own compass.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
You are pretty clever
going on about how Brady rode the pine at UM, despite starting two full seasons, every game.
If you are also threatened by gays, and like to use it as a slur, call me whatever you wish.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Not calling anyone anything...
But while we’re “figuring”, poll the rest of the population in here as to what they have probably just “figured” within the context of your posts.
Tell me more about how you know Brady rode the bench at UM
while simultaneously making 25 starts. You have much to teach me.
If you acknowledge that you were completely wrong, then maybe someone will listen to you.
What have they figured? That I think you are threatened by other men’s sexuality? That you spout facts that are incorrect and then resort to playground taunts.
25 starts – does that surprise you?
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Actually...
You are correct that he did start a couple of years. And we heard a lot about his prolific career there, didn’t we? Did I say he rode the bench his ENTIRE time there? No. But he couldn’t unseat Drew – I couldn’t cut it in the MLB or NFL- Henson. To say I said anything else is to read something into what I said.
And resorting to playground taunts? LOL. You’re kidding, right? Maybe I’m wrong again, and need to learn what a taunt really is.
So sorry about trying to be clever about how much I hate the Patriots and offending a certain group. It wasn’t about them, it was about the Patriots.
Finally, I think you still have it figured wrong. Just poll them. Go ahead. Or is that another thing you would consider a taunt?
Done with this.
If you want poll results
you poll people. I don’t have a clue what you are talking about. I know you have issues and are factually wrong.
You said Brady “rode the bench there” – most freshman and sophomore QBs don’t start. To call that riding the bench in disingenuous.
Did you know Henson backed up Brady in 1998 and 1999? How is that not a case of Brady beating out Henson.
Who won the job after Griese? How many games did Henson start with Brady on the bench. You suggest his career at UM was not prolific, but the left the school with some records and won 20 of 25 starts. That is pretty damn good.
Again – when was Henson starting and Brady not?
You are flat out wrong, and you need to own it.
Now run that poll – after you get me the info about Henson beatin out Brady.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Mea Culpa
I was wrong about who he was behind (on the depth chart) at Michigan. For some reason, I was thinking Henson, but he did end up beating him out. Griese was the starter those two years. I did get that part of it wrong.
“Brady played college football for, and graduated cum laude from, the University of Michigan. He was a backup his first two years, while teammate and future NFL quarterback Brian Griese led the Wolverines to a share of the national championship in 1997 in the Rose Bowl. When he enrolled at Michigan, Brady was seventh on the depth chart and had an intense struggle to get some playing time. At one point, Brady hired a sports psychologist to help him cope with frustration and anxiety and even considered transferring to Cal7.8 "
I will own up to the PART I got wrong. Most Soph’s and Freshman don’t start, but many great ones do.
Brady started 25 games at Michigan
That is over 2 full seasons which is pretty good.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Henson was behind Brady in 1998 and 1999 and then
Brady graduated. Henson never beat him out.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
this game
is a fantasy goldmine.
Manning and Brady are SOOO good. Like…there isnt another qb in the nfl that looks like they will be on their level.
Well I just lost to Aaron
Addai out is a killer
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Think back 2 years ago...
Remember when…
you knew Romo was going to have time to make that crazy throw at the end of the game to win it? That’s gone.
you knew that Folk anywhere close to 50 yards was guaranteed? That’s gone.
you knew that the #1 WR would make drops at the least convenient time? That’s the same.
you were so excited about the new stud OC Red Ball? That’s gone.
you wanted to give Barber more carries? That’s gone. Start Choice. Mix in Felix. and 3rd down and 4th quarter MB3…
the season’s a long way from being over, but that season ended poorly and we’re not even close to that level this year.
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
the defense on the other hand is significantly better
I’ll take the more mature qb and better D.
good point.
then again, i think that season was teh start of the 55 minute defense. we get killed in teh last 2:30 of every half.
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see it the same way...
this team is better than the team we had 2 years ago…
You shouldn’t judge them on this performance…
also
there is no continuity between regular season and playoffs in this league.
Its flat out wrong to suggest that because the 07 team did nothing in the playoffs, we will because we had a worse regular season.
Get in and thats ALL that matters. Anything is possible. Past performance is irrelevant unless your qb is named Brady, Warner or Ben, guys who have proven they can pay well year after year in january. Otherwise, there is really no consistency from one year to the next, even from december to january
Man, they sure hate to call holding on the Pats
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
You know...putting some perpective in this GB games...
The final score is 17 to 7…but if Folk makes that first field goal and the refs didn’t gift the Packers that “bad call” fumble that resulted in the final GB touchdown…it’s a 10 to 10 game…there really is a fine line between winning and losing…
Surprisingly, after that win last week against the Eagles, I’m pretty philosophical about today’s loss…we’re in a driver’s seat position and have a good team…I’m generally very positive…
i won't be positive about it for atleast 24 hours.
then i’ll slowly get over it.
fortunately, i have a lot of practice getting over Cowboy losses ;)
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
by bulldog jeeper on Nov 15, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
lol
We’re still just 19 points from 9-0…lol!
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 15, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
C'mon, since Romo came on the scene we've won a whole lot more than lost...
…and I really like where Romo’s head is right now…
Seriously, except for a few trolls on this board, I sense there is general optimism from the fans…I think the vast majority of us are hopeful…
can't blame today on romo,
can you? I thought he played well enough.
I'm a big Romo fan...I was really pissed at him after the Giants game, but have seen very good improvement
from him this year and I already felt he was a top tier player…
I just really like that he is a calmer and more patient player. Games like this would have rattled him in the past and he would have “pressed”, but he was more “calculating” in this game as he has been this year…I think we are more prepared for December this year…
yea i agree
but i think GENERALLY..we didn’ play as well as we should’ve. If you don’t play well, you leave it up to crap like random chance bounces/missed field goals/poor refereeing to hurt you.
The ol should’ve been better. If they were better we wouldn’t have needed long plays from Roy or better calls from the ref later in the game when our defense was gassed.
no man.....dont pull out an eagle here...> we stunk.
this has nothing to do with the refs…….THE COWBOYS OFFENSE was brutally bad today…..period
OK, I agree, but how many NFC teams would you rather be right now? Maybe, 2? Maybe....
True that things could be better, but aren’t they pretty good right now?
Pretty good...
with the potential to be better…
I didn’t feel the same way last year. The linebacker and secondary play was poor. And, then, I always dreaded what TO was going to say, win or lose…
Feeling a bit more positive myself...
We didn’t lose Jenkins for the year…
We played a really bad game and we only lost by 10. Last year, this game would have been a blow out.
Doug Free may get a chance to show us he can replace Flo. That’s the next major project for this team. I would rather know that before the draft.
Even Roy gave us more hope. A mixed bag for him, but I am beginning to see more of the potential.
Should McCarthy got unsportsmanlike penalty
On the 3rd challenge, I believe GB should have got 15 yards penalty. I remember the Saints-Dallas game from Dec 06. The situation was the final 2 min of the first half and Parcells threw a challenge flag for some reason. If I remember right, the pass was broken up but Saints got 15 yards (& eventually scored) because Parcells should not have thrown the flag. This may not have changed the outcome, but I wonder if the Cowboys coaches missed something here.
Things were happening to fast at that point...
The officiating had been so odd. If I were Wade, I would still have been thinking about the fumble recovery that could not be reviewed.
Jenkins...
So what was the final determination on his injury? I never heard.
Deep bruise to his bicep...
Is what I read… He told the DMN that he will be ok, that he expects to play the next game…
Going to call it a night...
The Boys will be back… Either way, I’ll still be here… Good night to all.
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