Drowning in a Vat of Whey -- Packers 17, Cowboys 7
On the Cowboys final drive, after Tony Romo threw his touchdown fade to Roy Williams, the cameras captured Flozell Adams shaking Romo's hand, thanking him for continuing to play on a day when too many of his offensive teammates didn't have the spark.
Dallas came to town content and was outslugged by a Packers team that had its season on the line. The Dallas defense kept the Packers offense in check for around 40 minutes, until the injuries to the secondary left it playing Alan Ball at one corner and Pat Watkins at free safety.
While the game hung in the balance, at 0-0 and later at 3-0 Packers, the offense could never get into gear. Packers DC Dom Capers flummoxed the line with a blitz package which frequently got linebackers and corners free. Tony Romo was sacked five times, most of them coming in the first half.
The problems went father than scheme. The Packers simply outhit the Cowboys' on this side of the ball. Marion Barber was overrun on one Dallas sack. His skill position mates took turns short-circuiting Dallas possessions with miscues, which negated several big calls by Jason Garrett.
Like the Eagles the week before, Capers' Packers brought a lot of long secondary blitzes, where corners or safeties lined up deep then floated off their receivers or tight ends to make delayed rushes behind the linemen and linebackers. In the second quarter, Garrett caught Green Bay in one and sent Roy Williams into the deep middle. Romo hit Williams in stride for 41 yards, but the receiver didn't wrap up when he tried cutting past CB Charles Woodson, who peeled off Miles Austin in support, and whom Williams could clearly see. Woodson knocked the ball from Roy's arm and the Packers recovered, sending the offense back to the sideline after just one play. It was, in effect, a quick kick on 1st-and-10.
On Dallas second 2nd-half drive, with the score 3-0, the Cowboys offense finally appeared to revive. An eleven yard Tashard Choice run from the Razorback was supplemented by a fifteen yard facemask penalty, moving the Cowboys to their 46. Two plays later, Miles Austin ran an out towards the right sideline from the slot and the Packers corner and safety on that side rolled up with him. Roy Williams drifted free down the right sideline and Romo floated a perfect pass to him at the Packers 30. Roy inexplicably tried catching the ball with his facemask (something I do not advise) and the pass bounced to the turf.
Garrett made another inspired call on the next snap, when Choice ran out of the backfield and up the right seam, where he caught another Romo dart or an apparent first down, inside the Packers 30. This play was wiped out by Jason Witten, who was flagged for offensive pass interference. The Cowboys failed on their 3rd-and-23 attempt and punted the ball away.
The next time the offense took the field, just over eight minutes later, the score was 10-0. On the third play of Dallas' possession the line again exposed Romo to a weakside corner blitz, as Flozell Adams blocked down to his right, giving Charles Woodson a free lane at Romo. Woodson stripped the ball from Romo's hand. Felix Jones appeared to recover the ball and roll once on the turf before Johnny Jolly tore the ball from his hands. The officials ruled the play alive and Clay Matthews recovered the ball down at Dallas' three, setting up a short Aaron Rodgers pass to Spencer Havner for an unreachable 17-0 Green Bay lead.
The Cowboys would move the ball and score in the waning minutes, but the game fell apart on these two series in the mid 3rd and early 4th.
Notes:
-- Poor execution can make the defensive play callers look stupid too. In last year's win over the Packers, Wade Phillips called several corner blitzes out of the slot for Anthony Henry, who made two sacks and caused a turnover. Early in the second quarter, Wade called the same corner blitz for Orlando Scandrick, who roared in untouched from Aaron Rodgers' right, sacked the QB, stripped the ball and recovered it at the Green Bay fifteen. The Cowboys appeared ready to seize the lead, at 3-0 if not 7-0.
Scandrik's exemplary play was negated by a hands-to-the face penalty by Mike Jenkins. It was that kind of day.
-- Joe DeCamillis' group wasn't immune to curd poisioning. His return units took several block-in-the-back penalties, which kept the sputtering offense on long fields. They continue to struggle blocking kickoff returns.
-- I think it's now official: Nick Folk is mired in a mini-slump. He's missed quite a few mid-range kicks this year, going back to the preseason. He pulled a 38 yarder wide left to end Dallas' first drive. The Cowboys would chase those lost points all day.
-- Dallas called only eleven runs to its trio of backs in the game. The knee jerkers will likely point to last year's Washington game and accuse Jason Garrett of getting pass happy. I don't think that had anything to do with the loss. I've broken down Dallas' drives and find that penalties and sacks kept the offense off the rushing side of the play sheet:
First Half
- Series one -- two rushes, 20 yards;
- Series two -- three rushes, 8 yards;
- Series three -- one 1st down rush for 2 yards. Romo sacked on 2nd, taking the run option away on 3rd;
- Series four -- two rushes for 3 yards. Choice is two feet short on a 3rd-and-4 draw;
- Series five -- no rushes; Roy Williams fumbles on drive's only play;
- Series six -- Romo is sacked on 1st down, putting Dallas in 2nd and long. No rushes;
Second Half
- Series one - Barber rushes on 1st for no gain. Romo sacked on 2nd down;
- Series two -- Choice runs once for 11 yards; Williams and Witten bungle the drive on subsequent plays. (see above);
- Series three -- Felix Jones rushes on 1st down for 4 yards. Romo sacked on next play and fumbles;
- Series four -- Dallas takes the field here down 17-0 with 10:44 left and doesn't call another run.
Jimmy Johnson's halftime remarks on Fox were apt. Dallas could not get first downs, and when you're taking sacks and penalties and not converting, you have no chances to build a running rhythm. Dallas didn't get a first down on five consecutive series starting with its third. It had three rushes in the five italicized drives,while the game was in doubt. But where are the extra runs in that segment coming from? One series lasted one play, and it was a great call. Another lasted two plays. The most promising drive wasted two great pass calls.
The Packers front won the battles up front on run and pass downs, and I don't think we can fault Doug Free too much. The leaks were coming from the left and up the middle on linebacker blitzes.
-- Dallas has seven guys it could really not afford to lose. I'm taking about its starting five offensive linemen and its starting safeties. The team just lost Marc Colombo for several weeks with a broken fibula and Ken Hamlin's status is uncertain after he left the game with an ankle injury late in the 3rd quarter. Offensive line and safety shortcomings have been the Cowboys downfall every season since '05. They had the starters covered on opening day, but nothing but question marks in reserve on both units. Those question marks, Doug Free and Pat Watkins, may hold the season in their hands.
-- Memo to Roy Williams. The last guy named Roy Williams on this team used to get off the ground pointing at a teammate every time a bomb was completed in his area. The fans didn't buy it. I doubt that pointing to the Lambeau Field lights after a perfectly thrown pass hits you between the eyes will be any more convincing.
On to the Redskins
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based on what?
You know I don’t like Pat Watkins, but Hamlin hasn’t played since the early preseason. I have no idea how good or bad he is, and I don’t know if the coaches do either.
I don't think the stretch drive of a playoff chase is the right place for on the job training
but who knows?
we could put him in some packages at first
I can tell you one thing: Mike Hamlin is a much smarter player than Watkins. That was one of his biggest attributes coming into the draft: his intelligence and intangibles.
hey they guy bought
Hey in TC as a free safety might b a Jarius Bryd. He has better instincts as a Free safety as far as SS i would test a rookie any day over Pat Watkins
Tony = big heart
I was cringing watching him getting bent backwards and going headfirst to try and get us a meaningless score- until i remembered, it’s not meaningless. He went out there (maybe stupidly) and said he wouldn’t quit, and wouldn’t be shut out. I’m not a Romo homer, but this game told me a lot about who Romo is.
The rest sucked. But the glass is half full.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
Definitely not meaningless.
Tony’s proving to be a leader on this team, and you want the leader to have that type of mentality. If he’s fighting to the end, then there’s no reason/excuse for the rest of the team not to follow suit.
And besides, the Packers D was playing for a shutout (which I wish we did more often, instead of playing prevent at the end). Better to not give them THAT much satisfaction (small consolation, but better than nothing).
I still believe in Romo.
Glad you agree...
this was a big deal to me.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
I love Romo.
As much as one man can love another man where the only words ever spoken directly to him while he was about 4 ft away was, “Nice shot.”
I didn’t want to be shut out, and I’m glad we got the score. It’s important to keep trying even when you are losing and ther eis no chance left to win.
Like a lot of people. . .
I saw this one coming from a mile away. But it still makes me a little sick to my stomach, like every Dallas loss does. My head is still swimming a little, so there’s little point in my trying to even start fingerpointing.
One thing I won’t do, however, is blame is on the refs. Sure, it was bad. But calls go in both directions, too.
Mostly, though, I just don’t wanna appear like a Philly fan from last week.
Saddle up for next week.
The refs had nothing to do with it
Green Bay was playing for their lives and Dallas was flat. It showed.
Baloney
Be real people. The refs made the game difficult for us. Claiming the refs haven’t any impact on the results is flat wrong. They game is too close to overcome a disproportionate number of 50-50 calls going against you. I don’t know if the Eagles have a similar claim last week (consider the non-pass interference in the end zone against R. Williams that would have given the Cowboys 4 more pts). But I do know that I didn’t see 50-50 calls going for the Cowboys in this game.
I’d like like the calls to be balanced during the game. Can someone out there who is more objective and who believes the refs do matter tell us about calls that went the Cowboys way?
by Eagles suck on Nov 16, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
I'm sorry but that's just a simply false statement
How many points off blown calls did we score? 0. How many did they score? 14.
The punt challenge was unquestionably not conclusive enough to merit an overturned ruling. That changed the game from our ball to them scoring a TD.
The bs rule of “a fumble recovery is not challengeable” also resulted in them having a gimme score instead of having to drive down the entire field after what should have been a recovery on our part and then a likely punt. Even if you say “they followed the rule”, who cares? Felix had the ball. I said he was down with possession in live time. They should’ve been able to as well. They get paid to see things like that.
And don’t give me the easy line of “Green Bay was playing for their lives and Dallas was flat.” That just is so totally wrong I can’t stand it. This team played with incredible heart and guts today. They weren’t flat, they just got beat. To say that Dallas only lost because Green Bay was playing for their lives and because the game meant less to Dallas so they didn’t care as much not only is an insult to the Packers, but also to the Cowboys. Both teams gave it all they had. The Packers just beat us. The refs helped, but they beat us. Hands down. People are acting like the Packers are just some ho-hum team that only won because they were against a wall, when actually, the Packers are actually a pretty good football team (just like we are). They’re only a game behind us after all. They didn’t win 5 times by mistake. They can play with anyone, just like we can. So stop acting like this loss was a result of different amounts of “want-to” on the part of each team. The loss was a result of one pretty good team beating another pretty good team. End of story. The Cowboys were prepared and focused coming into the game, and they got beat. It’s harder to swallow the loss like that, because it’s easier to think “oh well, we just have to be hungrier next time, and that’s easy to fix.” It had nothing to do with that and everything to do with playing good football. Not as convenient of a storyline, but that’s how it was.
Well, you're obviously still upset and word it pretty strongly
But I agree.
They didn’t look flat to me.
The D played w/ a lot of heart and guts with no support.
And since I haven’t read this yet, the Offense got outcoached. They were out schemed, why don’t more people see it that way? Also, they’re just a good Defense and played well.
by Realist Larry on Nov 16, 2009 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
they beat themselves, like they always do when they lose
I have yet to see another team actually just flat out beat them, their miscues and mistakes always do them in.
In Romo we Trust
Our offense is too good to be essentially shut out
The fact is that they left points in the field. Romo missed Austin and Bennett for touchdowns. Roy had the obvious fumble and drop. However, in my list of the blame for the game, first place goes squarely to the offensive line. None of those sacks were Romo’s fault, and he even avoided what could have easily been a few more. When a lineman double teams a blitzer as another one comes untouched, you don’t call it outcoaching or outplaying, you call it a missed assignment. To me, it’s really that simple. I agree about the overturned fumble on the punt return. I agree about the Felix recovery. I agree that the call on Jenkins was crap. Having said all that, Dallas did little to help itself on offense. Although, am I the only one who disagrees with the pass interference on Witten? The whole pick rule doesn’t really make sense. From what I saw, both guys were running straight and collided. It’s not Witten’s fault he’s a stronger runner than the defender. I don’t know, that’s just me.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
I was listening to the pre-game coverage, and you knew...
the Packers wanted this win badly, especially after an embarrasing loss to the Bucs. But I was hoping the Cowboys would weather the storm and prevail. That’s what good teams do.
u said it right what good teams do....
These guys r no where ready to dance until they clear up their issues.t
Yea it was just one of those games...
nothing went our way today, every time we made a big play it was negated by something stupid.
It shows the fine line between winning and losing though – about 5 smart plays this game and the whole entire game is different. The D isn’t on the field as long as they were, maybe they don’t wear down, etc.
GB otuplayed us in the second half, but I feel like if any number of things had gone our way, that may not have happened.
One things for sure – the OL has to get it together.We’re not gonna win too many games the way they played today. In fact, I expect every team we face to blitz us relentlessly after the last two weeks.
Washington will be interesting
they’re not a blitzing team. Greg Blache likes to rush four and play zones behind them. Wonder if he’ll dial up the pressure?
Oakland doesn’t blitz much either but they tripped up the Eagles with heavy blitzing. I think you’re right though. One or both of these teams will bring the heat in the next eleven days.
Yea i was wondering about that with washington
The frankly have done well the last two years against our O without blitzing a lot. But if they do, they have a decent secondary that can hold up.
Oakland will bring the pressure, I feel confident in that.
We should encourage the blitz.
It creates huge holes in the defense, and even if they play man defense, we have big WR’s who can get position and make a catch. They just need to man up and do it..
"chase lost points"
those are three depressing words.
Raf
this was brought up in a previous thread – What do you think about the idea of starting free at LT and Flo at RT? It seems stupid to move two guys around as opposed to just one, but Flo got ripped today and Frees seen more time at LT.
Flo has a bad day
but who would you rather have at LT for the last seven games? Flo has been good against the big rushers. You going to put Romo’s backside on Free?
I wouldn’t.
Take him out and see how bad he is
This team will win maybe two more games if you sit him down.
they getting beat he just not as quick anymore
that sack by Clay Mathews he was just not quick enuff
Hey im just saying
u got to put people in places to succeed and right now LT is not FLO spot anymore
mayb G or Rt i dunno>>>
he might finish the season at LT but i guarantee he will not be back here at that position.
If you're gonna replace him, and he's healthy, the guy replacing him better be
better than he is.
If they felt Free was better, he would be starting. He’s in year three and he’s not.
Free is going to have to start either way
either him at RT and Flo at LT, or vice versa. It’s not like you are forcing him into the lineup.
yeah lets bench Flozell
How bout you let someone ask Raf a question that isn’t idiotic.
by alanTdot. on Nov 15, 2009 11:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Free didn't have a flawless game
But he also didn’t blow up Romo like Flo missing his Woodson assignment did.
And to say that money has nothing to do with Flo still starting is ignorant to reality. Jerry is not going to pay somebody what he’s paying Flo to sit. It’s just not going to happen, regardless of whether the backup is as good or even marginally better.
“If they felt Free was better, he would be starting. He’s in year three and he’s not.”
I don’t know if you’re “he’s not” is saying Free’s not starting or Free’s not better. But if you’re saying he’s not better, I think you are jumping the gun a bit. I don’t think there’s been any evidence to support the idea that Free is simply not as good. The only reason people keep calling for Free is because he’s played well when given the opportunity this year. I’m not saying he’s the answer definitively, but he has looked promising. But his good performances (from what we see at least) definitely eliminates the option of him definitively being worse. There is nothing you or any or us has seen from Free this year to lead to the conclusion that he is definitely worse. He may or may not be better/worse, we don’t know yet. But he’s looked good. The other side of that is that no one here can say definitively that he’s better or worse than Flo at this point. We just don’t know for sure because we haven’t seen him enough. But he has looked good.
It boils down 2 this one thing
we got shut out until garbage time in the 4th quarter. They Blitz us and we folded…….. JG made zero adjustments.
We lost to what could have been a start into a 9-2 record going until a brutal December schedule.
I'm with Raf
Flo has been solid all year going up against some strong pass rushers. He’s also made the left side of the line really strong in the run game, which is why I was shocked when Garrett dialed up a run to the right in what seemed like the first run since Free got in the game. I figured he would have tried to ease him into it.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
This is not 2005
This is 2009, and the players backing up Flozell are completely different. Doug Free is better than anyone we had backing up Flozell back then and Flozell is also not as good as he was back in 2005. He has regressed and the backup has gotten stronger. Hence, the difference in ability is much less distinct. It’s not that far-fetched to think that Free might be arguably as good as Flo, if not better.
There's a hole at right tackle
That’s where Free is going to play.
Flozell isn’t moving there, cause he’s never played a down there as a pro. I don’t even know if he was a swing OT at Michigan State.
That’s where it sits.
Raf
I agree with what you’re saying but I have seen Flo play RT in the Pro Bowl. Obviously that alone isn’t conclusive but he looked natural there. I have NO idea if Free can play LT at a decent level but I believe that Flo can probably play RT and play well.
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Oh I agree completely
Now you HAVE to play Free at RT. I’m not saying “play Flo at RT” or anything like that. What I’m saying is, if you have a healthy Colombo (which we don’t right now, so it’s kind of a moot point), you should try Free at LT. Moving two guys around is always a bad idea. Hence, Flo LT Free RT now. But with all five guys healthy, try Free at LT and that’s only one change (that might be a change for the better).
We can always go back
but this is a good opportunity to see if Free has what it takes, and I think Flo would be a very good RT.
So all of you experimenters are ready to put Romo's joints on the line?
Cause I guarantee you if the Cowboys shuffle three guys to new spots halfway through a season, Romo will be injured within three games.
Hey im not a coach but i do observe
if any thing just gotta work in a rook … Every team does at some point just got to c what they are made of.
Wow
This is pretty sad. The O-line obviously played bad this week, but you can’t just start calling for people’s heads after one game. I heard rumbles of giving Kitna a shot after the Giants game because Romo was supposedly cooked too. This is a joke man. The line has been solid all year long. They aren’t the best pass blocking, but they are usually solid, and they work well with Romo’s elusiveness. It just sounds like the typical overreaction for Dallas fans after one poor performance. Remember when everyone called for Crayton’s head? Remember Allen Rossum? I think we all need to take a deep breath.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
This is not a one-game problem
Flo has been struggling for a while. He’s not terrible, but he’s not great anymore like he once was. He’s average, maybe above-average now. And I think Doug Free may be just as good at this point.
We’ll see how Free does at RT.
Hey im not a coach but i do observe
if any thing just gotta work in a rook … Every team does at some point just got to c what they are made of.
Arizona tried to make Davis a left tackle...
And that explains why he is presently with the Cowboys.
yea
but JJ paid some serious money 4 a RG. Trust me JJ paid that money to place Davis at LT if needed.
My friend... Keep on thinking...
You’re asking for a whole reshuffle of the Line?
Davis showed in his days with Arizona that he isn’t a good LT. Davis has continued to show that he has problems with speed, AT GUARD! I don’t want to see him in space.
Flo at Guard? He hasn’t EVER played the position… Oh, come on…
Free at RG? Ditto on Flo…
And Kosier at RT… Yeah, sure, Kosier was a Tackle with the Lions… But he was awful, which is the main reason behind the Lions not making a big effort to retain him. He is mobile, but he isn’t quick enough, and he isn’t really powerful.
That lineup is just crazy.
Preseason is time for experiments because they have a lot of time to train. Midseason ain’t time for experiments.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
Either way it go we r getting beat and beat bad!!!!
Im not saying a line reshuffle it u would have read the comments u would have known it was just a guess at playn Gm or coach. But Our O line need help…..
Something is wrong and it always been wrong….. Its kinda lame that everyone does not c it.
You forgot to move Gurode.
If your going to move everyother starter, you should move him too. Looser can start working on his long snapping.
I think Free at LT and Flo at RT is at least worth considering, but we can’t move four linman to new positions.
by Trey, on Nov 15, 2009 11:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
NO
Give it another thought for real this time.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
You want to have FOUR guys on the line trying new positions?????
You’re out of your mind. Continuity is what’s important on the OL and you want to shuffle the whole unit for no apparent reason.
Leonard Dvais has played LT before, by the way. Go watch some tape. It’s not pretty.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Raf, I know it seems like a lot of comments, but it's actually just one guy
He has just managed to post 30+ times in the last hour.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I guess with Oakland and Washington coming up
there aren’t bad matchups for him, but i expect philly and nyg to really bring the pressure and i think those matchups may be trouble with speed rushers, though hes done well against Osi.
I played right guard in high school
and there was absolutely no way that I could have been asked to play left guard at the same level. The other guard though, he could play left or right. If the coaches know their players, they can figure out which type of player Free/Flo are. Hopefully one of them can be flexible.
As far as Flozell, I have to agree with you: no way you put Free at left tackle.
Flozell started as a guard, then went to tackle. If Free looks good the rest of the season, perhaps Dallas has its left tackle of the future.
Why does this Dallas team lack a sense of urgency week in and week out? Athletes cannot play their best games every week, but they can put forth a great effort every week.
Several teams seem to be able to play at a high level of intensity on a consistent basis, but not these Cowboys. As you noted, they were flat, and it was painfully obvious.
There's a difference between a high level of intensity, and a high level of execution.
Execution makes up for a lack of intensity at times.
I thought the defense put forth an outstanding effort
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Ooh, look.
Manning threw a horrible pass to a french guy. Must be CGI because Prince Peyton never throws shit passes.
haha
I loved this comment from Collinsworth “That was the Haleys meteor passing, Manning just threw a ball right to the ground”
Eagles fans everywhere had to be shaking their heads in disgust.
Collinsworth is slowly growing on me
His call on Austin’s TD last week:
“they’’ve been setting him up all night. They know Sheldon Brown likes to look into the backfield and he just got BARBECUED on that play!”
You have to like that.
I like Collinworth enough...
I don’t think he has any real biases, and he occasionally provides some insite into the game that I was otherwise ignorant of. I don’t think Aikman has ever said anything I didn’t know in advance.
I wonder if he secrectly hates Al Michaels
I know I do. Ok, it’s no longer a secret.
Collinsworth is a pretty cool guy, and doesn’t seem to get overly predictable or corny with his calls, which is exactly what Michaels and the rotting corpse of Madden always were.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
the cameras captured Flozell Adams shaking Romo’s hand, thanking him for continuing to play on a day when too many of his offensive teammates didn’t have the spark.
Yeah, I saw that too…made me feel good about this team…I already believe in Romo, but it made me feel good to see physical confirmation that he has the respect of his O Line…
Respect of the OL
not as good as protection from the OL.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
... protection BY the OL
Hmm. Maybe protection FROM the OL is right too.
Keep doing what you been doing, keep getting what you been getting.
If you really want to know how good Brady is, they just flashed a ver y telling stat.
He’s 25-2 when he passes for 300 yards. Now as we all know here, football 101 says huge passing yards usually come when you’re playing catch-up.
Wait, Brady has 27 - 300 yard games?
I believe he’s had more 300 yarders after Moss got here, but I don’t remember his getting too many before Moss…
Maybe they're adding in postseason?
I don’t doubt I could’ve misread the graphic but I’m pretty sure that’s what it said. Besides Brady’s played around 120 games so that only equals out to about 4 300-passing yards a season and if you subtract the 7 or 8 he had in ‘07, it’s not that many.
Agreed, but Brady's passing statistics weren't that great before Moss and that started in 2007...before that
his numbers (except win/loss) were very “unremarkable”….
Well, he played with goofballs.
In fact, that bug-eyed Reche Caldwell cost the Patsies the ’07 AFC Title game with his awful drops. And all this is totally objective because I hate the Hoodie and Tom Teriffic.
Exactly, before Moss, I don't think he had that many 300 yard games...oh well, whatever...
by CaliFanInTx on Nov 15, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Two extremes.
He went from having total gimps to having the best receiver (when motivated) in the game. Hey, he did have a 26-TD season throwing to those total gimps.
Browser's going dinky again.
Post I typed up included this:
Brady went from having total gimps to the best receiver (when he’s motivated) in the game. Brady did post 26 TD passes throwing to aforementioned total gimps. Now if you want to say that Marvin Harrison was never as great as Manning made him look and that Manning would’ve had a 60-plus TD season with a freak of nature like Moss to throw to, that’s another discussion altogether.
Raf, since yoyu seem to be around, how much of the struggles do you think were due to playing a 3-4 w/the blitzes disguised?
I got the feeling our OLine didn’t sem to know where they were coming from 1/2 the time, even before the injuries.
The O didn’t look great against Philly either, let’s not forget one TD was on a 37-yard drive after a turnover, and one came on one big play to Austin.
I’m wondering if Garrett needs to go to 3/4 101 class, but you’d assume w/Phillips around he’d be informed on that.
Damn, someone remembered!
It wasn’t me, the odds just were not in our favor.
At least it was only one OLineman.
by Realist Larry on Nov 15, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
We're one more oline injury away
from this season being in serious jeopardy, so it better stay at just one ol.
Also, we’re ridiculously thin at lb, lets not suffer any injuries there either.
yea i was wondering about that too
We rarely face 3-4 Ds given that most have resided in the AFC.
The last two teams have had so much success blitzing us, I see no end to it untill we burn them with quick slants/big plays. We should’ve today but RW pretty much blew it.
Our "own" defense is a 3-4...this isn't an issue...
the Packers just outplayed us today…scheme aside, their players wanted it more…
I think Romo's now 4-5 against 3-4 D's. I wouldn't have expected that since he faces a 3-4 in practice
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
He faces a 3-4 in training camp.
In practice, during the season, our defense mimics the opposing defense, which most weeks is a 4-3.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
Denver ran a 3-4, and the offense didn't light it up then either.
There may be something to that, but usually when you play the a team who runs the D scheme your team runs, you are used to it from pre-season practice. I guess not.
our scheme is slightly different
Its a different style 3-4.
The denver game was different – Romo was just not hitting guys and Flo was getting straight up beat. There weren’t as many missed pickups if i remember right.
romo
served the role of a pinata today. He played hard throughout, we saw similar play to that KC game but he didn’t have much help today.
Wasn't it Rodgers who was suppose to take all those hits? Talk about role reversal...
by CaliFanInTx on Nov 15, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
rodgers took plentyof hit himself
if the offense gets anythin going and keeps the defense off the field, rodgers probably gets hit even more
On Friday they were saying Rodgers was better than Romo
and if Rodgers had Romo’s o-line, he would be amazing. Apparently people don’t watch the games, because Romo is constantly bailing out his o-line.
I'm not saying Rodgers was "hitless" just that Romo took the kind of punishment we thought Rodegers was going
to get from our D Line. Look at the hits Romo took and the Packers didn’t even have their best pass rusher available…
by CaliFanInTx on Nov 15, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
we countered that
by losing our starting RT though.
Our line failed everywhere. The interior had multiple breakdowns and Flo got burned quickly twice.
LOL
we got 4 sacks on him and at least 3 holding calls that prevented sure sacks. Not to mention all the hits we got on him, plus the forced fumble that I don’t believe was a sack after the the Packers recovered it past the line of scrimmage. Please don’t compare our O-line to the Packers O-line.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
PLUS...
they had to change their entire offensive scheme and we still got 4 sacks, 3 holds, and a forced fumble. The Packers will go no where having to max protect and/or calling 3 step drops. They played right into our defenses hands which did exactly what it expected to, just didn’t get help from the offense this time..
How about we give our D some credit? The Packers have a really good offense, and honestly, we can play the blame game, but the Packers scoring wasn’t on them. You can blame the refs if you want with the fumbled punt and Felix’s recovery, but both td’s came off of short fields.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
It's the quarterback stupid...
Romo fumbling away the game AGAIN. The same type of fumble turned a 10-0 lead in Denver into a loss. Today, the slippery fingered quarterback turns a 0-10 score into an insurmountable deficit. When is Romo going to develop a snarl? The pear-shaped quarterback isn’t a leader – he tolerates mediocrity around him, unlike Aikman and other winners. He’s Wade Phillips under center. Austin and Williams dropping balls and there is no accountability. Cowboys fans have enough from the best quarterback never to win a playoff game.
lol
apparently Tex didn’t see Romo barking at people everytime they didn’t convert on 3rd down. I thought Romo stepped up despite missing 2 td’s. The INT in the redzone you could put on him too. For once someone jumped Witten’s route. I think that’s the first time I’ve ever seen that.
I’ll reply for you quincy… When there are as many lineman as blitzers, Romo can’t held accountable for getting crushed from his back side time after time. The Cowboys got two fumbles on Rodgers and just had bad breaks with where the ball bounced or a cheap 5 yard hands to the face penalty. Romo is probably the most underrated leader in the league, seeing as how people like you constantly say he’s not a leader.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
Tex is a Romo hater
He will always blame Romo for any Cowboys loss, no matter what really happens in the game.
In Romo we Trust
Yeah I don't really understand
people like that. If it’s Romo’s fault I’ll be the first to blame him (see Giants post game threads). But he’s our quarterback, and a damn good one, so I don’t see the need to constantly bash him. I love when they try to come back with the “realist” excuse. Kind of funny.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
It's your crappy gimmick that sucks, Luke.
You are Luke because no grown man would write eighteen paragraphs defending your sorry ass gimmick which is what Luke did at the old site.
Whoa, where did that come from?
I haven’t commented on a Tex post in about 2 years. What’s got your knickers so twisted Madmick? You must be quite the sensitive young woman to get so riled up and lash out so blindly so easily.
I think you need a nap so you don’t further lower the standard of this fine blog with your bizarre, immature and unwarranted personal attacks.
You did post eight-paragraph defenses of Tex. Who cares when?
I’m also fairly liked on this blog. And just this weekend there was a mention of AWOL posters that mention you but you only suddenly pop up out of the woodwork when your passionate love of Tex is addressed.
Tex sucks. You’ve spent multiple paragraphs defending him. It doesn’t matter if it was during the bicentennial. That’s still very fruity behavior for a grown man.
I’m ready for the IP address reveals that prove you’re not Tex, bro.
Also when Tex posted his lovely vacation photos it was pointed out there were snow-capped mountains closer to your proximity than a dying guy in California.
My final statement is even if you aren’t Tex you authored novel-sized posts defending his lame schtick and novel-sized posts regarding Terrence Newman’s rebellious off-season radio interviews.
No, what's fruity behavior is you personally attacking two posters who weren't attacking you. I wasn't even commenting at all!
Sure I posted a defense of Tex way back when. So? I still think the same way. I’m a huge Romo fan and I do not agree with Tex’s stance on Romo at all but it doesn’t bother me that he has a different opinion. What I was responding to was the constant calls to authority from cry baby’s like yourself to ban him because you can’t ignore someone with a different opinion. Do you scream for your mummy when things don’t go your way too?
Madmick said; "I’m also fairly liked on this blog". Wow, you’re my hero!! I’ve got no idea if your liked by others on this blog or not and I don’t really care. Your behavior on here is abrasive at best and plain rude most of the time.
Grow up internet tough guy.
Please point out to me where I ever asked for Tex to be banned.
We’re waiting!
We’re waiting!
Just one cite.
I just always stated he sucked.
Tex sucks. Any of my nieces or nephews could do his repetitive schtick.
You wrote long-ass posts defending Tex’s dumb schtick; with apparently no stake in how lame most thought he was. These are facts.
Like I said; I know IP addresses would reveal the real truth. Maybe you go a long way in sponsoring Raf’s camping trips; in which case I say fine: create three more stupid gimmicks.
But for a grown man to write eight paragraphs defending a dumb ass schtick my infant nephew could come up with; either you are the sorry gimmick or you have serious problems.
"Eight paragraphs"
- why are you obsessed with the number of paragraphs (assuming you’re even right). Do you think eight paragraphs is a lot to write? Does your mind quiver if you get past a sentence or two? Do you understand that for a "grown man" to write eight unreferenced paragraphs it takes about a minute and a half?
"Please point out to me where I asked Tex to be banned" – Come on man, I’m not digging through hundreds of pages and thousands of comments from Raf’s old site for this stupidity. You’re the one who’s obviously still obsessed with things I said years ago I wouldn’t have even remembered that post if you didn’t bring it up!
Are you holding some sort of grudge against me? I think we’ve had an argument or two before on the old site. Wow, I must have really wiped the floor with you for you to still be holding some sort of burning grudge against me years later. I’ve barely given you a second thought and yet you seem to be able to remember many of my posts.
And now you want my IP address? This seems to me an unhealthy fixation that could be bordering on internet stalking. Madmick you need help, and you need to accept the fact that we’ll never be together ok. I have a girlfriend and I’m very happy.
Try having a real relationship and interacting with real people sometimes as it’ll do wonders for helping you overcome your social and communication problems.
Whew, what a first day back on the blog! Although I’ve kept up with reading most of the posts I haven’t had any time for joining in since the season started. I make a reappearance today for the first time in months and I already find myself under attack. Ahhh, it’s good to be back.
Awesome
I love how riled up y’all are after a loss.
by Dansonofdirm on Nov 16, 2009 1:51 AM CST up reply actions
Just a random thought..
Are one of you Jewish and the other British? I think I caught a schtick and a mummy in there lol
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
If your hero Garrett would've called a run at the 1-yard line...
The game might have turned out differently, Spermbob Queerpants.
I thought 2 months ago you said Jay Cutler was the best QB never to win a playoff game?
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Man, Peyton is not having a very good game...Steelers get dominated, Saints win a close one, Panthers beat the Falcons....
You just never know in this league, do you?
Could've handled the lost
I actually thought this might be a letdown game for us.
But I did NOT see all the injuries coming. Just brutal.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Romo played tough.
On the Cowboys final drive, after Tony Romo threw his touchdown fade to Roy Williams, the cameras captured Flozell Adams shaking Romo’s hand, thanking him for continuing to play on a day when too many of his offensive teammates didn’t have the spark.
I’ve long felt like those “December swoons” have a lot more to do with the O line wearing down with injuries and lack of depth than some failing on Romo’s part. I hope we’re not about to see more of the same.
they're due to many reasons
that are mostly dominated by the OL and Romo’s poor play. And in fact our receivers did a terrible job getting open towards the end of 06 and 08.
The medias obsession with blaming a single player for a teams collapse is ridiculous.
Raf I agree, the game was like the iggles game last week, if dallas executed the plays and did not turn over the ball
then they were in a much better position to win. What about the defense’s inability to get off the field on 3rd down, I know there were injuries on the secondary, maybe they wore down in the 2nd half and the injuries just made the problem worse.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
wow
crazy. Faulk just bobbled the ball going backwards and lost the first down.
I can’t believe the Pats went for it. I love the call though
Agreed
Twas a good call. Think it should have been first down though
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think the gist of the ruling was...
That Faulk never actually had control of the ball until he was drove back short of the marker.
Yeah I get it
But I disagree
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
So do you dislike the rule?
No sarcasm whatsoever but I think that rule’s fair for what it’s worth. I do understand the concept of forward progress. However, the concept of a guy bobbling a ball beyond a marker and getting ruled down when he gained control seems fair enough to me.
Or are you saying he had the ball earlier? I’d have to see replays before making a judgment there.
But as far as I could tel the zebras got it right.
I thought he juggled it
But regained control in a position past the 1st down marker. Not 100% but my opinion.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
They've went for it on 4th in the playoffs from the same spot on the field.
Of course, in this instance, I think Bellicheck crossed the line from genius to madman.
Pats just got ripped off
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
WOW! Belichick really doesn't trust his defense...
giving Peyton the ball just outside of your own 20 yard line…disaster!
Think it was more trust in his offense
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
He's never actually pulled that stunt so late in a game.
But he’s went for it plenty of times (in the playoffs no less) at similar field position.
What a game
Colts rally was amazing
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
I dont think that was bad
Colts probably would have scored anyway. Wasting Time Outs was the real problem.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
I love that call
Do you trust your offense to get 2 yards or your defense to stop peyton manning.
Agreed
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
That has to be the dumbest call ever made
Did Little Bill have a mini stroke on the field.
His arrogance cost them the game.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
?
Reference to his pencil behind the ear?
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Eh, wasn't Hack-Man Little Bill in The Unforgiven?
There was also some jackass named Little Bill in another movie but Hack-Man will always be the brutal sheriff of Big Whiskey for me.
Oh, Duh
Yeah, great movie.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Wow Aaron
I thought you had me. 1 point victory!
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
For me and the Colts
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
WOW!! Oh man...how do the Patriots feel right now?
We feel bad, but their fans gotta be pissed !
Maybe Moss scores an 80 yarder?
If anyone can do it its him.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
Romo has more guts than Belichik
Belichik quits, takes off his headset. Is he gonna walk off early again too, like a little sissy?
What are you talking about?
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks, Kinda
In comparison to Romo actually finishing games and manning-up (no Manning pun intended).
Fair enough. You didn't kiss any Peyton hiney in your reply.
I just like pointing out that Peyton isn’t Gawd because he has a ring when the numbers say he was terrible in that postseason.
Yeah, it really had. . .
nothing to do with Manning, lol
How do you think they got to the postseason
And why have the colts won more games this decade than any other team? Despite coaching changes and other player movement?
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
The fact that their run defense was awful has been disproven.
Because they were so horrible in two December games against the run that it made them look way worse than they were. Also they lost those two games so it’s not like “ooh, Peyton overcame the horrible run defense.”
Here’s the real genuine pop quiz moment.
If that Colts defense sucked so bad, then can you even try to guess which QB put up this statline against them in the regular season?
20-35, 201 yards, 0 TD, 4 INT. Care to tell me who the Colts bullied into this terrible performance?
I'm not saiyng Colts are bad
I am just saying Manning is great.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 15, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
He's great.
But as much as Romo gets raped for his winter no-shows, Manning is just as guilty. That’s all I’m saying. And Manning had a great running back in Edgerrin and a damn good receiver in Harrison (before he started shooting people at carwashes.) The overblown ass-kissery of Peyton is made all the more nauseating when I hear how average Aikman was even though is postseason numbers dwarf Peyton’s.
Should be "even though HIS postseason numbers"
I wonder who’s the all-time leader in posting errors. Raf’s made quite a few so there’s no real shame in it.
By the way.
" Yeah, it really had. . .
nothing to do with Manning, lol"
You sarcastically mocked my suggestion that Manning was less than good or even great during the playoff games where the Colts won the Super Bowl. So I’m confused by you.
So if you have a brain in that head please discount these actual real stats of Peyton Manning in the postseason.
http://www.nfl.com/players/peytonmanning/gamelogs?id=MAN515097&season=2006
Or feel free to give non-sequitor replies like “What are you talking about?
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Dude
I meant my POST had nothing to do with Manning.
It was about Romo and Belichik.
Got it now?
Sheesh.
Well, he didn't shake Dungy's hand that time.
Bill’s always been surly when things don’t quite go his way. This is nothing new.
And how
Would the Patriot loss even affect us?
Stay focused.
It does not effect the Cowboys, but any time the Massholes are ticked off is good
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Saty focused?
People can enjoy football even if it isn’t the Cowboys. 100% attention in life doesn’t need to be given to them, you do realise that we don’t actually play for the team right?
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 16, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
Some people think that what we write on these boards gets transmitted directly into the mindset of the franchise.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 16, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I have noticed
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 16, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
yay at least Peyton gave me a fighting chance lol
35 points from him means I just need 28 from Ray Rice vs. CLE to pull out a huge comeback in my PPR league, which is actually quite doable
Once again
Hello. Patriots and Steelers are irrelevant now. Unless you’re looking for silly “moral victories.”
dude...
Watching teams that you don’t like lose is always a comforting thing. Who cares what conference they are in?
I love watching the Pats lose… almost as much as I love seeing the Eagles lose.
Pats are relevant
There is no sweeter taste than a Masshole’s tears of defeat
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Okay So It Hurts We Lost Today
And there’s nothing we can do to change that, but knowing the Eagles lost, and the Patriots died a horrible, devastating last-second death in Indianapolis warms my heart. It’s funny that the Colts, who supposedly choke in the clutch have beaten the allegedly most clutch team of all team four of the last five games.
Yeah,
The big line two, three weeks ago was “parity is dead.”
The old guard doesn’t look so hot. Steelers get swept by Cincy. Pats D looks so-so, though they did lose to Indy. Eagles lose again. Giants are licking their wounds after 4 straight. We didn’t look so hot, etc., etc., etc.
Saints were scared to death by the Rams.
Hey, the Titans are moving on up, George Jefferson style. I need to see if they can still qualify for the playoffs?
Mathematically, yes, they certainly can
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Doesn't matter to us
Anything outside of the NFC right now is just girl talk. It’s not just about the NFC East. It’s not about the AFC at all.
It’s all NFC.
Again
We dont actually play for the Cowboys. Our attention can shift to the Pats or the AFC.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 16, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
fellas fellas
I’m pretty sure we weren’t going to win out this season.
The team was flat today. they need to go home and regroup. win the next two at home and all is forgiven. wouldnt be shocked to see GB go out to SF and get beat next week. Look how flat the iggles were after playing the cowboys last week.
BTW, dallas is still 6-3 and in first.
If you want to piss and moan, piss and moan about colombo.
That's a big injury.
What does it tell us?
They don’t trust McQuistan. He wasn’t a consideration. I don’t know if they activate him anymore. I think the only subs active today were Proctor and Free.
We know what Proctor is, yet they have him above Holland and Preston.
This tells me we have ONE decent backup — Free — and going forward he’s a starter.
If the o-line suffers one more serious injury they’re sunk. It’s ’05 all over again, with Tucker and Petitti. I shuddered a little just writing that line.
by Rafael Vela on Nov 15, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
lets see what free does.
i dont think he is the 2nd coming of torrin tucker, shudder and vomit
No, they can handle ONE big injury
But they suffered that today. They no longer have a margin for error. If you see another one of the backups out there soon, Romo is going to take a serious beating.
by Rafael Vela on Nov 15, 2009 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
I always liked Tucker's wingspan
buy my he was terrible – and still somehow hard to replace.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
McQuistan was not active today
We only had two backup OLs active.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Peter Faulk as o-coordinator.
He’s still alive right? He was great in “Made.” “You little Cawksucker!”
Cronenberg's remaking The Fly.
But I don’t know why that would be significant unless you’re a geek like me.
Okay, mixed it up
saw he retired and has Alzheimer’s.
Very sad, but no, he’s not dead.
by Rafael Vela on Nov 15, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Okay So It Hurts We Lost Today
And there’s nothing we can do to change that, but knowing the Eagles lost, and the Patriots died a horrible, devastating last-second death in Indianapolis warms my heart. It’s funny that the Colts, who supposedly choke in the clutch have beaten the allegedly most clutch team of all team four of the last five games.
parity is alive and well
The crap being thrown out about it being dead is just that, crap.
some of these sportswriters are idiots.
Who are the idiots dismissing parity?
The gold standard Patsies haven’t won it all in 4 years. Even the Steelers are about to lose their precious division crown to the Bengals again; and they might not have won it all in ’05 without Kimo Vonasswollen rolling up Palmer.
I saw an article pronouncing it dead in SI recently
I also heard (read) that idiot florio spouting it on his site.
BTW
You dont change multiple positions on the offensive line cause one guy goes down.
Its time to see what free can do.
Pissed
I’m pissed about the loss, but it hurts twice as much since I have Romo and Austin on my fantasy team. UGH!
I feel like an idiot starting Felix.
0.6 points, FML. Plus, I was debating with myself whether to pick up Ladell Betts or not. FML x2.
I can do you one better
I started felix over Wells.
And in another league, i started lesean mccoy over Stewart and Wells. At least McCoy is now the number one
man, why would you put cowboys on your fantasy team
when they lose, it hurts just as bad.
Roy Williams needs to be benched
there’s no excuse for his poor play.
If there’s no salary cap in ‘10, it’d be nice to just see him cut loose completely.
I think Crayton could play his position just as well (Robin to Austin’s Batman) with Ogletree filling in as Alfred in the slot
I mean, if Roy's future were so bright
he’d have to wear shades
by Urinal Mint on Nov 15, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
Good one
Reference to his “excuse” for letting the pass hit him in the facemask? That was a lame move.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
Above reply was for Urinal Mint's Timbuk 3 reference
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
Er I meant the vaunted tinted visor.
Visors are for douchebags anyhow. The only guys who made helmet visors cool were Jim McMahon and Barry Sanders.
What would you offer in Roy's place?
Austin is back to being “Mr. Austin Miles” now with two games without consequence for the first 55 minutes of play. Crayton is just steady. Hurd has Crayton-like potential though with even less break-away ability. Ogletree? Let’s get real. He can come in for 1 or 2 specific plays planned for him and that’s about it at this point in his career. But that’s it.
Don’t look now, but if we were to bench Roy, we’d be starting WRs Jason Witten and Martelus Bennett. Phillips would be the single TE.
by Eagles suck on Nov 15, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know how fair that is to Austin.
Even though the fact is that Green Bay and Philly have elite corners compared to the Falcon and KC scrubs he was burning. Of course, even if he is the real deal, he’s going to get taken away eventually because he’s on film now and D-coordinators will realize hes’ the only real weapon in the passing game.
Let’s see how the freckle-faced fruitcake responds because he just got owned by a legendary defensive mind; Dom Capers.
he was doubled much of the day
which says the respect he has earned, but to take his game to the next level he needs to beat double coverage as well
Hopefully, he'll get that far very soon.
I still believe this offense will suffer if Felix can’t stay healthy and that’s very depressing. This offense could be all-time great with a Chris Johnson-type weapon.
Considering Romo was running for his life all day, what would you have Austin do?
He’s obviously the #1 target of defensive strategy.
If Roy Willie catches a meaningful pass and moves the chains, perhaps that takes some pressure off of Austin.
If Garrett decides to use Witten down the seam instead of on a 2-yd out, perhaps that takes some pressure off of Austin.
You’re not going to score much unless you’re moving the chains. Romo didn’t get any help in that department today from anybody… until GB called off the dogs and sat in prevent.
by Urinal Mint on Nov 15, 2009 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
That's a completely stupid statement.
Because there have never been receivers that have had bad days.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 16, 2009 7:54 AM CST up reply actions
whats weird is
he had his best stat line of the season and made two huge mistakes.
If RW just does his job
He has Miles Austin’s line from K.C., or something close to it, and Dallas might have a 3 point win.
The game was there for the taking in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, if Dallas could ever get a lead and come after Rodgers with all guns blazing. But they never could get out of their own way offensively.
but Roy won't "just do his job"
He begs for the spotlight, then gags when it shines upon him. I think mostly he just wishes he were still in Austin being worshipped by throngs of t-shirt fans and adoring coeds. He’d probably trade his contract to be in Jordan Shipley’s shoes right now.
by Urinal Mint on Nov 15, 2009 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Mental lapses
all the way across the board, but especially with Roy. I don’t think he can handle playing in Dallas. He did go to Texas, but I’m sure he got comfortable being able to do whatever he wanted in Detroit without getting killed for it. To get that ball stripped by what was basically a flailing arm as Woodson ran by, just sad. He is way too strong to let that happen. No concentration. Same with the drop. He blames the lights, but you know he was worried about his rips being exposed to the safety coming over to help. Notice how he still dodged the hit after he dropped the pass.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
one of those days
forget it, regroup and start thinking redskins.
boys need to get back on track and all is forgiven.
good night.
yep
it looked just as bad after Denver.
But the line is not healthy anymore.
That’s a big concern.
by Rafael Vela on Nov 15, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Time to sign McQ 2?
Paul came in for a tryout earlier this week, right?
I think we will find out soon, as in Monday.
You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.
by APerfectStar on Nov 15, 2009 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Yes please.
If Procter is the best next player, we need some new bodies pronto.
by Eagles suck on Nov 15, 2009 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
I think he is a guard
we need a T likely.
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 15, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
Look at the brightside...
…with Free playing for the foreseeable future, Jerry will have conclusive evidence that he needs to draft a starting caliber OL prospect in the next year’s draft.
That's why they drafted Brewster this year. Starting caliber.
Didn’t work out as planned.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
I still don't get why they couldn't patch up the pass protection at the half
I also don’t know where the “let them run their blitzers into a bad place” misdirection plays were today, either.
It's too bad you can't make a trade
because I’ll bet Jerry would flip a decent pick to buy some decent quality veteran OL depth.
I'm also rather displeased with the quick-out to Witten at the GL for an INT
They ran the exact same play against NYG and got a TD by the skin of their teeth.
I think you have to throw the ball there, but why roll out a play that a savvy DB like Charles Woodson has studied and expects? He is just sitting on that route. There has to be a better (and unfamiliar) option.
Witten played one of the worst games I've ever seen him play today
Having Charles Woodson on you as a TE certainly doesn’t help.
Also, that’s offensive pass interference penalties two weeks in a row for him. Hope he gets back into his groove soon.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Witten has been invisible for a while now
its a little concerning.
What do we think about Jenkins and Hamlin?
50% of our starting secondary down and Scandrick has not shown himself to be as capable a replacement as he was last year. Any word on these guys and their status yet? I’m hoping Jenkins is just a contusion and not a torn bicep, which would be season-ending.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
If we lose Jenkins
we can forget about our reborn secondary. With scandrick on the outside and whomever covering the slot on passing downs, we’re average at best. And we’ll be praying whenever opponents get to 3rd and long.
Hamlin… I don’t care too much. Maybe he proves to be the Kyle Kosier of the D-backs and proves to us that we might miss him more than we expect, but for now, I don’t mind seeing Ball or Watkins or even the rookie Hamlin in some safety capacity (I’m assuming Sensabaugh can play either strong or free safety)
Who knew that zebras are blind?
At least the officials are admitting that they made stupid calls (check the ESPN Dallas site).
For me, I saw the following calls by the blind animals:
+ hands to the face by Jenkins when we got the sack by scandrick and recovered the ball. Possibly scored.
+ pick by Witten and ?. The Cowboys players didn’t even come into contact with the Packers. How can someone throw a pick when there’s no contact?
+ Reversal of the fumble on Packer’s punt. I saw the replay as McBriar never touching the player and without doubt, pushing the ball out of grasp before any other contact might have occurred. Either way, it was inconclusive and shouldn’t have been over turned.
+ Fumble non-recovery by Felix Jones. That’s the biggest bonehead non-call ever. How can a recovery not actually be a recovery? When, then, does the play end on fumbles?
Someone put these useless striped animals out of their misery!
i don’t get on the interference call on witten is he was being shoved by the packers linebacker the entire time.
and mcbriar was knocked down on his first two punts but there was not one call, why do we never get this call?
by DavidLaFleur on Nov 16, 2009 3:15 AM CST up reply actions
You sound like an Eagles fan
From last week.
If we can’t overcome bad officiating, then 95 percent of the time, we don’t deserve to win.
This was one of those 95 percent, dude.
Disgusted in WI
I am a lifelong Cowboy fan living in Madison WI and I am thoroughly disgusted this morning.. The team was so flat and uninspired during the ONE game the HAVE to win for ME!
OK, enough about me: Wade Phillips, I want you gone. It is YOUR job to get your troops ready to play every week and I, for one, have sat through too many of these uninispired laughers. I want you gone.
Roy Williams: You are a joke. Catch the ball and shut up. You dont like the way Romo throws you the ball? You dont want it to hit you in the hands. Jack*ss. Youve been playing with lights on a football field since High School. Catch the ball and shut up or sit down. We already got rid of one prima donna WR. We will do it again..
Sigh. Thanks for letting me vent.
"Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or later the man who wins, is the man who thinks he can."
Felix doesn’t look right to me…
He doesn’t appear to have the same burst or quick cutting abilities. He hasn’t looked the same to me since his early season injury.
When healthy I think he is the Cowboys most diverse weapon but is he better at 80% than Choice is at 100%? I think, NO.
Why not switch these two on the depth chart while Felix heals. I’d really like to see Choice line up in backfield more often than just 3rd and long or in the Razorback.
In fact I haven’t understood this all season long. When you have 3 backs of this quality why not give the majority of the carries to whoever is healthiest. What does this kid have to do to prove he’s a better starting option than either of the other two when they’re not 100%?
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
This may have been discussed; but if Folk had made his kick; and the zebras
hadn’t screwed-up and given GB that fumble rcovery inside our red zone, the score at the end of regulation would have been 10-10.
We were that close..in spite of Dallas’ poor play.
Wharter
Folk?
I really believe that missed FG yesterday killed us. He was a rock last year. Now he is a 50/50 proposition. Anyone have an idea what the problem is?
Bring in Beulher!
Seriously… kickers are 100% about consistency and mental prep and that’s it. If they start to miss, they miss. If they’re on a streak, they’re on a streak. Folk is missing. I definitely haven’t a clue what to do to snap him out of it, but I do know we have an alternative this year. Perhaps the coaches ought to look at Beulher for more than kick-offs during the week of practice?
maybe McBriar holding
Kickers are strange creatures of habit, he was used to BJ the last few years, having another hold for him might be messing up his mojo, especially if McBriar isn’t turning the laces like he should be.
In Romo we Trust
ehhhh
Don’t forget the kicker who shall not be named, who went from the most accurate kicker in league history to shamefully out of work thanks to his performance in Dallas. Not sure how much Joe D has to do with actual kicking, but Folk is on ST and could use a lashing from Joe. I wouldn’t snap to Beuhler, just because Folk had such a great year last year and hit clutch 50 yarder after clutch 50 yarder. He’s not really shanking kicks just slightly pulling them. I’ll never understand kickers though, so…
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold

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