The Cowboys Escape the Redskins Death Embrace, 7-6
Just win, baby.
Dallas worked out Al Davis' motto today, relying on a late, nine-play, 60 yard drive to push them ahead of the game Redskins 7 to 6. Tony Romo's 10 yard pass to Patrick Crayton with 2:50 left let the Cowboys Nation exhale after a frustrating afternoon where nothing offensively seemed to work.
Quick Notes:
Romo was 7 of 8 on that drive.
Jason Garrett didn't call a single run. We can debate the reasons. Perhaps he didn't want to take his erratic-throwing QB out of his delicate rhythm. Whatever the case, it worked.
Miles Austin, Jason Witten and Patrick Crayton made plays. Roy Williams? I think we can officially declare him a divo.
The defense again surrendered yards, but proved stingy with points. They played 60 minutes and every one counted.
The Doug Free experiment looks okay, one week in. The Dallas run mix, which was heavy in the first half, saw more runs called to his side than to Flozell Adams'
I think you can see the problems with a ball-control offense. The line takes too many flags. You can't rely on 10 to 12 play drives because a hold or an procedure will arise somewhere in the mix. Having Marion Barber fumble at the 12 didn't help.
It's time for Joe DeCamillis to float the prospect of David Buehler as the lone kicker. Nick Folk has been off all year. He was missing kicks in preseason and has consistently missed this year. He again missed a sub-40 attempt today.
This is the way Washington plays. They drag teams down into the mud and rubber dirt with them. Dallas won. For all the ugliness, they're 2-1 after one tour through the East. That's big.
Take a shower. Have another stiff drink and start thinking about Thanksgiving. Dallas escaped like this in Kansas City and regained its offensive mojo. The team had no time to take a breath and relax but may find its bearings again.
More tonight.
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I don't know how you older fans do it
how have you lived this long being a Cowboy fan without suffering cardiac arrest?
MAN….
I still believe in Romo.
for some of us older fans
we can still recall 3-13 as well as 1-15 in back to back seasons. I’ll take this over those two seasons any time. Heck, 1987 wasn’t that pretty either.
by Perry the Platypus on Nov 22, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
You HAVE to do it.
Being a Cowboy fan is not a choice. It just is.
I don’t about anyone else, but Roy Williams is becoming tiresome. We had a great rhythm going, then he starting whining, now the offense is out of sync again. We were AWESOME when we were just spreading it around.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
yeah
hopefully he and Tony will get on the same page, but time’s running out. December and the ensuing playoff push is almost here.
I still believe in Romo.
It's not Romo to Williams any more
it’s now just down to “Catch the freakin ball, Roy!!”
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
In all honesty
Last week was the first time this year we got our butt kicked. This week we won a defensive slugfest. As long as Romo gets back to finding minimum 8 targets a game this team will be fine. The Redskins played a great defensive game. Gotta give it to em. But now we need this next game because December is brutal.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
I kinda disagree
I think these last 3 games are all very similar. Against Philly, we got lucky – we got a few timely calls – they were correct, but the timing was excellent for us, against GB the opposite happened. We struggled offensively in both those games. The last 2 weeks, folks missed fgs which also hurt us.
The difference between this game and the GB game imo is that GB had a much more explosive offense that we could only hold down for so long without some offensive support to keep the D off the field.
We only allowed 17 points. That's not an explosion
I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing with. That Romo shouldn’t spread the ball around?
If you’re disagreeing that last week was our first butt kicking, in my book you have to lose to get your butt kicked. Of our three losses GB is the only one that I was convinced we should have lost. That’s all I’m saying.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
my point was
that the difference between our wins against philly and washington and our loss to GB is about 5-10 plays in the game.
We looked equally as bad offensively today as we did against GB, maybe even worse, but our defense was playing a lesser team today (they also played a more complete game, but is tough to know who to credit considering washingtons offense is so bad)
Any way
we can give Williams Austin’s contract and vice versa?
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
I'm usually all for the players vs the owners, but on this I agree...
If players demand top dollar for their skills, then don’t show up, there should be some retribution.
How’s Brandon Tate doing for NE? He could have been a 3rd round pick-up
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Out for the year, isn't he?
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
REALLY??? wow... last i heard he was coming on strong?
I’ll blame that one on Thailand
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Yep, went on IR 11/14
Look at the comments under Jeff Wilson's blog post on dallasnews.com. What a bunch of rocket scientists.- Keith Law
Don't insult my Tar Heel pet
:)
Maybe I should start pulling for Nicks?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
No disrespect to Tate
but what really IS the difference between a guy who won’t show up and a guy who can’t?
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Remedy
There is a remedy. You can waive the player. Don’t count on that, though since JJ was the architect of bringing RW here in the first place, waiving him would look bad.
by Cowboys Oldtimer on Nov 22, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Its offical
Roy is a bust.. maybe we trade him next year… wash our hands from him…… 2 b honest i feel as if we need to bench him give PC and KO the reps!!!!!
Staubach and Landry used to do this crap all of the time.
Thats the reason why Roger was captain come back..
KICK ASS every day!!!
I didn't watch. That helped a bunch. I worried about Thanksgiving. All that work to put dinner
together, I hope the Cowboys don’t ruin it with a one disaster after the other type game. God, they must be better than this.
Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!
How realistic
is the notion of beuhler getting the nod? since Folk’s surgery he hasn’t been nearly the same.
Texas Stadium has a hole in the roof so God can watch his favorite team play football.
He's not been spinnin' the ball so the laces face forward all the way.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
the fg holder is often a position over looked.....
Brad Johnson, Nick Folk, and LP, were tandem we all took for granted. If the ball is not snapped just right, held just right, then the kick will be off by a smidge. And thats what im seeing. Folk is as clutch as you can get. It’s an odd thing with kickers. You never know what your gonna get. Everything has to be perfect.
by TARHEEL PAUL on Nov 22, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
perfect... like the Tar Heels yesterday?
:)
or like our Bball team in April?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
we found a way to win with Romo hurtin
and thats all that counts. The D came up big and so did #9 when it really mattered, when the pressure was on to score or lose the game.
A win is a win and we should take them any way we can get them regardless of who our opponent is. Steelers would agree today.
In Romo we Trust
Marty B too. I tweeted at him to check on that hit he took...
His reply:
Yea I’m fine yall I got hit rgt in my lower back shit hurt. Lol but I’m fine I broke the tackle tho. Lol
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Aaron, shoot me an email
and I’ll give you my cell# so we can hook up for the Oakland game
In Romo we Trust
Will do when I get back from dinner tonight.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
um, do you get the real Romo anytime you want?
just kidding, but I could not resist swinging at the one
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Terry, have you ever actually met Tony Romo................
Other than the Fathead decals that adorn your walls?
Wharter
Raf the way the game was going, I was getting the feeling that dallas was going to let Was score a TD and then
the game would have been effectively over. But everything just fell together towards the end. The defense held, a missed FG kept it a one score game; and it was up to the offense to drive down the field for a TD. I think the offense knew that it was now or never on that drive, and when I saw them working their way down the field you could see the players who wanted to win, the line game romo more time, romo found his rythym, witten and miles made the catches; and crayton kept fighting all the way. Then the defense finally forces a TO to give it back to the offense to killl the clock. It was very much like the KC game and I hope it brings back their confidence in the offense.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
That is why I did not mention him. Crunch time this guy is nowhere to be found.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
a shame
jerry got hose on this trade….But he was the one who push it and i watch football every sunday and c the guys we could have took with the RW picks c those guys perform every sunday out.
We might need to look at washing our hands from this trade. If it wont click this year it might not click next year…..unless we get a new OC
Hopefully
All that comes out is 1. Detroit stops failing so horribly year in and year out thanks to our draft picks, which is good for the league. 2. Dallas makes it to the playoffs, wins at least one game, and it’s all thanks to Austin/Crayton/Ogletree, Romo, and Smash, Dash, and Tash, and the defense, of course. 3. Roy Williams is traded/waived and Dallas just had one bad draft because of it, but nothing gets truly affected.
Hate that guy.
Romo was throwing high
but I’m not sure what the furor was. He took care of the ball, ran the final drive to perfection, probably stopped a fumble recovery going for a TD. I’d call this one a mediocre job.
I agree completely. The line’s prblem is not lack of talent, it’s inconsistency – giving up sacks, penalties, missing key run block assignments.
Roy Willy needs to be replaced by…by… wait for it… THE TREE!!!!
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
+85
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
They really could use a quick guy working the inside
a la Welker. That element is missing…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I totally agree... given the first 10 games, there's no doubt Tree would be an improvement
Is there a trade deadline? Think we can still get a 1st, 3rd and late-rounder for Roy?
:)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
agreed on everything
Romo didn’t play too well for sure, but it was far from his worst game.
The Cowboys announcers said it was McBriar's hold.
I don’t know if that is true or not since I had to resort to sitting in my driveway listening to the game, as Tampa Bay was on TV, but that’s what they said.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 22, 2009 4:00 PM CST reply actions
's hold was the issue
but I know at least two have been his fault (he admitted as much).
They said he tilted it the wrong way,
and that the replay showed it. I’ll have to wait and download the game form iTunes to see, though.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 22, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
It's entirely possible
I was watching it online and didn’t notice the replay. Perhaps it’s time to try someone else out on holds. Maybe Beuhler could do it, who knows though.
lol
i guess that would be a true test of character…but i dont really want the backup holding for the starter
How about we put someone in there w/some passing ability ...
to give us an option to fake. Crayton is the only one that comes to mind, but I’m sure there’s a couple more.
Seems like a lot of excuses
for a kicker who is missing. Guess that never happened last year, so lucky for Folk.
It probably didn't happen much last year
Since Brad Johnson had been the holder for several years, it’s all about consistency and routine with those kickers.
you'd think it wouldn't be that hard
but maybe we need to bring back Brad and add another one-trick specialist to the team lol. he wasn’t much of a backup QB, but he was a great holder!
I thought the line played excellent
Great running day, one sack (where Romo showed no pocket awareness), Romo had plenty of time to throw put was just off, and I thought just a couple penalties. Seemed like the tight ends had more penalties called on them than the O-line.
I think the line was great
but only in turns. Choice’s failed third down pick up was a missed block from the backside. Romo was escaping pretty consistently until the final drive. It’s not one guy. It’s all of them from time to time. If they could each limit the errors, the whole offense would instantly improve. Penalties and no yardage on first are killers when you try to play ball control.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
it really is
its 2-4 errors a game from EVERYONE.
If they could just reduce those mental lapses
this team would look like the Saints.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
The Sack Was On Bigg
And Romo deserved no blame whatsoever on this play
You mean the one
where a guy 100 pounds lighter bullrushed Bigg? I have to concur, Iowa…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
The DT dropped a smashburger on the ground to distract him.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
Bigg Must Have Been Caught Unaware
I don’t recall such a bad play for him all year . . .
I agree, but that's my point
these guys are really very good, they just need to play a little more error free and the whole team will improve.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Agree
The Cowboys are very well represented across the board in mistakes, from front office to coaching to players.
A win is a win..The offense will will get things together..no worries
Also..Doug Free played well today…good sign
+1
it’s really huge, given that oline depth was what we feared perhaps most of all about this team. the fact that we hardly heard his name is great, and they were willing to run to his side. will be interesting to see some more detailed film review on his performance.
I had faith in free
but the problem is that we’re one injury away from a gaping hole on the line.
he looked very tired
on the run where Barber had a ton of room and got tackled around the ankles. Free let that man go by.
Conditioning has got to be a factor for him especially with a short week. I can’t wait to see how he handles Ellis.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
Redskins Defense
going into this game, I didn’t give them enough credit, trying to discount their #1 pass D ranking due to the strength (or lack thereof) of schedule.
But I have to give them credit. And give Dallas’ offense a little bit of a break. They are a good defense. I certainly don’t feel good putting up only 7 points against them and being shut out for 57 minutes. But keeping in mind that they are actually a tough D helps keep it in perspective a little bit. And the offense made the drive when it counted, and put it the points it needed to for the win, thanks to an overall solid outing by our defense (and a couple missed FGs by Suisam).
Definitely
I predicted a tough game, so I wasn’t surprised at all. My hope is now that their season is pretty much officially dead, they’ll just give a wink-wink-nod-nod for the next game…
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
there aren't too many defenses better than the Skins
it’s their offense that is responsible for all their losses.
In Romo we Trust
Skins Run Defense Is Barely Average
And certainly this is true with Fat Albert not in there. We have nothing to be proud of today in terms of offense.
Amen
It’s hard to support RW but Romo was 3 foot high on a lot of throws that could have changed the game. The Cowboys ran the ball good enough to win. Romo was really off target today.
the one before the half cost us another set of downs or an easier field goal
high but RW isn’t paid for his alligator arms
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
He also is not getting paid
to get his spine crushed either. Romo cannot continue to throw the ball high on balls in the middle of the field. That’s how tipped passes occur. Did Witten have alligator arms on the pass that Fletcher almost intercepted in the first qtr?
That's right
and Barber should be benched because Romo got hurt making a tackle after he coughed it.
QBs miss throws. WRs have a rsponsibility to go get them. Watch any team that pushes its way into the SB and you’ll see WRs doing whatever it takes. RW isn’t doing that for his team or QB. High or not, a good half dozen balls have passed through RW’s hands without stopping.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Can't it be both?
I think RW is definitely not doing all we hoped he’d do. But Romo was also not his usual self (lots of high passes, much like the pass that got RW hurt.
Of course it's both
I just object to this idea of “Oh he’s hanging them out to dry”. Funny no one says that about Flo or Koser when Barber or Romo gets hammered after a poor block. Williams get paid to go get the ball and all players take risk when they step onto the field.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
go back and look at the posts after Romo hit Bennett over the middle
I can’t remember when that was, maybe mid-second quarter? Bennett was hit hard and there was a flurry of Romo-hating posts… as if Tight Ends should not be asked to go over the middle…
Grrrr….
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
And no, for Witten
that ball was not catchable. But he’s not a WR and he’s not saying things like “just throw it up there and I’ll go get it”.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
My objection was
the allegation of “alligator arms” and extremely high throws in the middle of the field. If Romo wants to throw the out route or flag route high that’s fine. But high throws on crossing patterns in the middle of the field lead to picks and getting your receivers killed. No one ever said receivers shouldn’t have to go over the middle but they should also be allowed an opportunity to protect themselves. I’m sure Roy didn’t mean “just throw it up there etc.” when he knows Laron Landry is two steps away from blowing him up.
I don't think Romo is throwing them high on purpose
I’d guess that he is doing the best he can to make the right throw, just like Flo is doing the best he can to block. But sometimes you’re the bug and sometimes you’re the windshield. In this game, Romo’s team mates think that he was in a lot of pain, making it difficult to step into his throws as well.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
According to Laron Landry Soy was "scared".
http://blog.redskins.com/2009/11/23/monday-november-23-laron-landry-doesnt-give-a-darn-how-he-p/
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Cowboys Ran The Ball Well Enough To Win
When Redball let them run the ball.
Im stuck in Saints exile with only an iphone and shaky reception.
Do we have any serious injuries.
Looks like Free did well. I never heard his name until a late sack. Who did he give it up to and who was he matched against most of the game.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Jenkins went out in the 4th quarter
with what looked like a stinger, and Romo played through an early hip contusion, but otherwise we came up relatively unscathed
Roy's pride got hurt again.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
He Just Does Not Seem To Have His Heart in the Game Anymore
Roy is really starting to piss me off
Me 2.
I just want a lanky possession WR that catches anything you throw to him. I don’t care where they get the guy, but this is getting freakin ridiculous.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
Bench Him on Thanksgiving
Start the Tree and Use More Bennett
It cant hurt
to bench RW. What did he do today?
I agree
it has to be something like that. The early drops are staying on his mind and he’s over-thinking,
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I mean if he was dropping that many passes throughout his career,
JJ would’ve never traded for him, plus the pressure to replace at least the bulk of “you know who” production might be getting into his head
yep, but RW is getting ridiculous
targeted 4 times and heaving 0 catches to show up?, at least TO will take one to the house
I am not defending RW
Frankly, I think the guy is a total bust and JJ shoul dhave never traded for him. My point was that Jerry sometimes does things like that.
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
He has always dropped a lot of passes.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 22, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, they don't log dropped passes on the back of my '06 Topps cards!
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
how many games do we extend this experiment?
… Ogletree is young, but he’s already better than Roy
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Okay, let's calm down
Ogletree is not better than Roy Williams.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
based on this year's evidence I'm not so sure about that...
heck, throw in last year too.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Evidence being
Two bubble screens designed specifically to allow him room to run, and a kickoff which he fumbled out of bounds. I think he’ll be good in the future, but I don’t think he should be higher than the fourth for this year. Roy sucks, but I’ll still give him the rest of the season to justify himself.
He is starting to piss you off?
I’ve been pissed at him since he came to Dallas
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
I missed the game
what happened with him? Another drop?
by what_the_crap on Nov 22, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
A couple
They were high throws but through the hands. I thought that’s what he said he wnted – jump balls to showcase those hands.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I thought one was a definite drop
and the second one was on romo, would have been a very difficult catch
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe
but the only thing RW was ever known for was having great hands. Both of those balls were catchable by someone who is supposed to catch tough balls.
Romo had accuracy issues but you gotta bail your QB out sometimes. That’s what winning teams do.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
exactly
i mean i know everyone expects romo to play better than he did, and i do too, but those balls were absolutely catchable. When your qb is struggling, other guys need to step up and make a play.
One was
the other one was POSSIBLY catchable by only one or two other WRs in the game
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
Possibly
but i do get your overall point. Your “no. 1” wideout needs to step up and make plays when your star QB isnt sharp. RW has simply not done that since he got here.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
Im not defending RW
at all but the second one I think only a randy moss or larry fitzgerald could have possibly made that.
Romo was not sharp today which amplifies every drop.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
sounds like the back injury was a big deal.
I am just looking for RW to be the possession guy. SO only 50% sucked today, but it’s becoming his defining pattern.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Agree
With the way he is playing he is the no. 3 guy on the team right now (behing crayton and austin in my eyes).
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
Is anyone still objecting to the SOY Williams nickname?
The guy has earned it
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Sean, Sean, Sean...
breaking down an optimist like that … you should be ashamed of yourself
:)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I feel like I've been
waterboarded, only with beer so I didn’t mind it that much.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Mmmm......beerboarding.....
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Yep...
Its one thing to criticize our players but to call him “Soy Williams” is something an opposing team’s fans would do.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
The other Roy Williams was called 'Thong' by Dallas fans
I don’t see why fans cannot call out someone on their team when he fails to produce, and the nickname does just that.
I forgot who came up with the nickname, but big thumbs up from me
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Well I was never one of those people so it doesn't really apply
but I understand your point. It is just for me personally that I don’t really use the nicknames since I reserve that for people I openly root against.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
I Must Be a Dumb One
What is Soy Williams?
and for what it's worth
there were six instances where Dallas ran on first down and gained 5 or less yards, and then they called a pass play every single time. Just FYI…
50/50 is bad
you don’t score points going 50/50.
It's not so much the pass/run ratio
as when the plays are called. If I were an opposing coach and the Cowboys run on first down and gain 5 or fewer yards, then I am putting a nickel defense in.
That might just be how the NFL is. And I have no problem with Romo leading the offense with his arm. I’m just saying, Garrett is utterly predictable in those types of situations.
it doesn't totally work like that
given that romo has the option of switching to a run play every down.
But you’re right, we’re predictable.
if they are bringing a S up into the box
and he’s calling the pass at the line, then it’s the right call. you can’t just judge it without knowing what the defense was showing.
right
but…i don’t know we were running the ball so well all game i feel like that wasn’t the case. washington played their safeties deep a lot.
It's a great discussion
npt sure though. I suspect that they over-emphasiozed the run today. Just a few passes here or there might have gotten them into a rhythm.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
No way,
Quick stats,
we rushed for 153 yards on 33 carries for 4.6 yards a carry. Thats good.
We threw 27 passes and 15 completions for 5.6 yards per pass. absysmal.
Despite the crying on here about our D being on the field all game we held the ball for 31.26 minutes.
We were 3 for eleven on 3rd down. I know one of them was a run we misses on. How many were passes?
KICK ASS every day!!!
thats not relevant in todays league
unless your back is named AP…its irrelevant. most of the teams score points through the air.
no
they don’t. The Steelers, Colts, Pats, Saints, Cards and Eagles are all not balanced. They all heavily favor the pass (in the saints case, they are close to 50/50 cause they have insane crazy leads).
The only teams the last couple years to be very successful while staying balanced are teams with top flight defenses.
Last 5 super bowl winners
yr team run pass run % pass %
2008 steelers 460 506 47.62% 52.38%
2007 giants 469 544 46.30% 53.70%
2006 colts 439 557 44.08% 55.92%
2005 steelers 549 379 59.16% 40.84%
2004 pats 524 488 51.78% 48.22%
2003 pats 473 537 46.83% 53.17%
total 2914 3011 49.18% 50.82%
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
I apologize for the formatting
excel copying and pasting can be unfriendly
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
The saints are
almost completely balanced. The colts are not
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
stats don't do it justice
the saints get their leads by passing.
That is like saying we were balanced in 2007. I have no idea about percentages but they were shifted about 7-10% to the run because we ran when we had big leads.
It doesnt matter where the points are, The reason for it is they both play off of each other.
Defenses have to guess. You run the ball even if its not effective because it sets a mentality of agression. It sets up play action freezing LBs. It acts like body blows aiding your offense in th4th quarter. It keeps the clock running and helps keep you D off the field as much. Geesh!!
Look at the balance of the teams that won the SB.
QBs will have games like today. The running game has to be able to bail them out.
KICK ASS every day!!!
That was the 90s, today's NFL is a passing league
you can’t win just by running anymore, have to be able to pass very well.
In Romo we Trust
The 4 teams with a better record than the Cowboys
record Team Pass Run run % pass %
9-0 Saints 288 291 49.74% 50.26%
9-0 Colts 201 359 35.89% 64.11%
8-1 Vikings 260 293 47.02% 52.98%
7-2 Bengals 274 290 48.58% 51.42%
x x 1023 1233 45.35% 54.65%
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Those teams also
have QBs named Brees, Manning, Favre, and Palmer with only the Vikings having a running game with the Cowboys potential. With Haynesworth out, running the ball a little more wasn’t a bad idea.
They way
i saw it and of course i am by no means an expert if you run the ball you must employ the shove down their throat type of mentality. I like the play calling mix in the first half but the passing game was just SOOOO inefficient that it made the running game less effective.
I do think the game is trending more to passing oriented offenses. I kind of wish we had a more creative OC.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
not trending, the transition has been complete
the league is a passing league. The Vikings would never be 9-1 without Favre, you have to be able pass well to score and therefore win.
Garrett should just ignore all the naysayers and let Tony get into a good rhythm passing early and often and use the running game to compliment the passing game and finish games in the 4th.
In Romo we Trust
Lets not let Micheal Caves get in the way of the truth,
By the way, Farve was the reason for Minnesotas only loss.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Terry you hit it exactly on the head,
last week was pass only, this week heavy running, it doesnt work like this for Romo and the offence. Gotta pass to set up the run
I think it's more than that
Of course I don’t know what it might be, either. But it appears to me that the pass play calls aren’t resulting in guys getting as open as they had earlier. Like what they are expecting on defense didn’t happen. It could be play calling, execution, Romo’s read… who knows.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Pls support
The Colts are the only team with a better record than the cowboys that pass more than 52.98% of the time. So 3 out of 4 teams are very balanced. This is also evident in the last 5 super bowl winners (the colts ran the ball much more than usual in their Super Bowl winning yr). So to say the transition is complete is a bit unfounded in my opinion.
“you have to be able to pass well to score and therefore win” Yes scoring does help winning i agree but you also have to be able work the clock down by running. Now you can argue which sets up which but the stats show the most successful teams are balanced.
"More than likely JW never played sports above the youth level. It amazes me that he seems to have no concept on the common reactions of an adult athlete or their normal interactions between each other." - laxonto
by Michael Cave on Nov 22, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
Stop Terry
Don’t even think about saying Romo is better than those guys.
i saw that too.
But overall i thought the playcalling was good.
It wasn't the Redskins defense
as much as it was the offense appearing to be out-of-sync for a few quarters.
Well, like most things
it was probably both. The Skins have a very good defense. And Dallas was out of sync.
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I think they have to stop and ask themselves..........
…………What are we? Are we a pound the ball, grind it out and control the clock team? Or are we an explosive passing team with some very good playmakers on the offensive side, who CAN pound it out to finish a game when needed? I’d go with the latter. I kept expecting them to go with the no-huddle and up the tempo, but that didn’t seem to be in the game plan. I believe the Packer game caused some self-analysis, and maybe some self doubt as well, though I’m not sure why. They ran into a good, desperate team at home and lost. Stuff happens. I thought that Free played pretty darned good, all things considered. Other than a running play in the 2nd half where he let his guy get inside him and tackle Barber from behind on a run to the left I can’t remember anything too obvious a problem. He should do just fine as long as he’s used appropriately.
yea
offensively, we have no idea what we are or what we’re good at. We’re still working out the kinks.
The good news is that our defense is keeping us in these games and allong us to win it with a couple big plays.
What I hope is that this team doesn’t do the 180 flip like last year. Starting around midseason our offense fell apart and our defense raised its game – they’ve been playing sound ball since that TB game, and they’re still improving.
We sucked today...
We got lucky and won but this level of play wont take us nowhere……this was absurd playing this bad against such a poor team without Haynesworth, Portis and Betts (who was out after the first drive). Roy Williams experiment is a mess and Romo has to find his accuracy again. This was absurd but Im glad we got lucky and escaped.
Hope not to have another embarrassing performance against Oakland
It's the best kind of win in some ways
the coaches will have EVERYONE’S attention this week. The offense know how bad they were.
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????
After the Green Bay fiasco, the players weren’e paying attention?
by Cowboys Oldtimer on Nov 22, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
I knew it mattered not who was hurt
“Everybody has their best day against Dallas”.
Haynesworth was a big loss
but lets not make portis and betts to be world beaters. Honestly, I think Cartwright did much more for them than either of those guys would’ve.
How I see it
We are 2-1 in the division and 7-3 on the season. Was it pretty? No. Do we have some big issues? Most definitely. But what is going on now matters not. We got a tough win and we’re still on top of the division with 6 games to go. There is no doubt that the issues on offense have to be addressed and Romo needs to find his rhythm again. The defense, however, has played superb in my opinion. Yea, teams rack up some yards but they have gotten stingy where it matters most; points. I’m even more impressed with the fact that Hamlin was out and Ball seemed to do decently in his place. There were no backbreaking plays aside from a couple missed tackles. We’re in a decent position and if the offense can get things together the sky is the limit for this team. I was also pretty impressed with Free. Looked pretty good anytime I was paying close attention to him.
I agree
every team in the league has their own issues, look at the defending champs, they lost to KC in OT, no team is immune from peaks and valleys.
In Romo we Trust
He didn't finish a block on a run play
allowing the player to get under him for a tackle… That’s the only negative I saw… otherwise he held down his side rather well…
Sounds about right
and if that’s the drop off (so far) from Columbo to Free, I’ll take it and be thrilled.
I just hope this game can stimulate some change like the KC game...
For whatever reason, our 3rd down play on both sides has been atrocious. Our D gives up long 3rd downs and our offense seemingly refuses to execute quick passes or effective runs on third down. This was the problem against GB too and if it isn’t addressed this team will continue to struggle since it leaves our D on the field and keeps our O out of sync.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
anyone remember earlier in the season, when Romo seamed to be thinking too much
instead of gun slinging it, for one reason or another the whole game looked like overthinking minus the TD scoring drive
nah i didn't think so
i thought he was just a little off like the denver game cept not as bad. Romo was a little high, but his receivers really did him no favors.
Agree
He’s been throwing high for a while, but some of the throws were still into the hands. I watched Warner all the way to the SB last year. Some throwes were great some were off, but his WRs made plays when they needed to. The differences in pro football are small. WRs have to make plays too or the offense will sputter.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
and its not like Romo fires bullets like favre
those balls were definitely catchable.
Hey, great news!!
Aikman and Joe Suck won’t call the Turkey Day game!
Well Sure
Since it will be broadcast by CBS, who handles Cowboys games when they plan an AFC team at home.
I still think we need to draft a QB next year. Romo flashes his potential about 1 of every 3 games and that isn’t good enough. We got lucky today plain and simple. Garrett is a below average play caller, our WR’s aren’t that good and we have 3 good RB’s but no idea how to use them.
I use Aaron Rodgers as an example for getting a new QB. Rodgers’ OL is not as good as Romo’s, Driver and Jennings are better than Williams and Austin but Witten is better at TE. Plus our running game is better. Yet Rodgers out performs Romo almost every week. Rodgers does things to win games while Romo hangs on and hopes for the best.
Romo isn't good enough?
Step … Away … From … The … CRACKPIPE
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Rodgers gets sacked on Romo's game-winning throw ...
… every time
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Not even remotely true...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Romo Proved He is A Winner Today
He carried that last drive single handedly: I wish we would send Red head up stairs as a consultant and let Romo call his own damn plays.
not me
Romo, very much like garrett, has the tendency to see 8 in the box and audible away from the run. He does it so much its hard to know who to blame sometimes when we don’t run the ball enough.
I hurd him kill a pass play twice in this game, it worked fine the first time MB for 9-10 yds
the second I think the rusher was hit behind the LOS
so he actually does both lol
when he says kill, i think its a run like 80% of the time. I cannot remember the last time he screamed kill and it didn’t end up being a run. But Romo many times audibles away from the run.
Yeah, let's trade for
Campbell. Make Dan Snyder’s day. LOL.
Great last-minute comeback win for Romo
and the legend grows…
(although not to nitpick there were several plays when he could have ran for big yardage)
And I can’t remember the last time that the Cowboys won by scoring so few points. I think they might have won a game against the Redskins 9-7 in 2001, but I don’t think they’ve scored just seven and won since…1970?
un otro Calvados sirviente
The beleaguered Wade Phillips couldn’t inspire a group of children to capture the flag. The bloated, passive head coach who is living off his father’s legacy needs to be fired. Tex will be in his new stadium suite on Thanksgiving, but this performance, or lack there of, almost ruined the Texas trip. Fire Wade Phillips.
Have to Admit That Mr. Krispy Kreme
Is not inspirational
Earth to Tex...
That was Wade’s Defense out there that saved the game…
It’s JG who almost ruined your trip…
Are you referring to Wade Phillips version of Doomsday?
… Tex, if by uninspiring you meant the Defense that is Wade’s responsibility, well… I gotta take exception.
If, instead, you mean he didn’t inspire you in the post-game presser… well, okay, you may have a point.
Thing is, all Wade needs to do is create a D that works.
JOB WELL DONE
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
yeah, you guys cannot touch
that will cause the destruction of the universe for sure
Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
Please, Terry, promise us
I have vacation plans I’d kind of like to take before the world is sent into oblivion. And think of Tony. He’d be destroyed, too, you know.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Now Dunk ...
don’t you know the Mayans have shown that the Terry-Tex meeting is not till December of 2012. Don’t dally on those vacation plans.
I just watched Star Trek and it proved that you can meet your future self and universes will not implode.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'm bringin' my camera!
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
Taking away the Os TO on our 3 yard line to GB
This D has given up 16 points in 2 games!
Tex, that is an average of 8 points a game. Get a clue and thank him for carring the offense.
KICK ASS every day!!!
Gotta give props to Ware
for a great game. Reminded of Dat Ngyen’s “Watch the shuttle pass” moment when announcer Aikman pointed out that waving his hand over his face, Ware indicated to watch for the screen, which was exactly what the Redskins ran — only to be stuffed on the play. I also appreciated the camera catching him encouraging Romo in the last quarter. As a football player and leader, Ware’s got it all.
Ware was great
but I’d have to give my D game ball to Brooking again. He was everywhere and his pride and fire seem to be contagious.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Yes, Brooking also
had a great game — he got the “game ball” from the Dallas station carrying the game. He is arguably the best defensive free agent vet we’ve brought in.
The best in a long time anyway
I am amazed Atlanta let him go. The guys is great
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
hopefully
that ends the “almost” curse. Probability says that he is due lol.
so funny he finally got his sack and then got it taken away
he was credited with the sack when Campbell stepped out of bounds, because he was the closest defender, but then when they reversed the call he got it taken away.
Talk about almost getting a sack, guy can’t catch a break!
Spencer Was MVP in Green Bay
He is coming on strong.
I give some credit to spencer
man….i know hes still milliseconds away from big plays, but that guy does SO much for us, hes so solid in run defense, hes a good pass rusher despite the lack of numbers.
can anyone tell, which Skins CB went out injured early in the game,
I thought we gonna bomb that side of the D, but we kept running the ball heavily
Romo's back injury
It was frustrating to see the passing game struggle so much until that final drive, and I don’t want to just make excuses for excuses sake, but I do think it is important to keep in perspective that he was hurt early in the game and played through it, and I’m sure it must have affected his performance some.
I’m not sure what they said on the broadcast of the game, but Tony Romo has a sore back. He said he took a pain-killing injection afterward but he doesn’t think it will keep him out of the Thanksgiving game against Oakland on Thursday.
Romo took a knee to the back while taking down (ahem) DeAngelo Hall after a first-half fumble.
“As long as it’s not a broken bone that keeps you from missing time,” Romo said. “I felt like with the adrenaline of the game you can always play. It hurts right before the snap and right after.”
His teammates expressed some worry because he was off target during the game.
“He kind of got up slow and you could tell he was sore,” tight end Jason Witten said. “I could tell by his throws he was bothered a little bit by it. But that was a big play by him. If he doesn’t make that tackle it’s probably a touchdown.”
Dallas Cowboys linebacker Keith Brooking was concerned about the health of quarterback Tony Romo throughout Sunday’s win against Washington.
Romo injured his back making a tackle after a first-quarter turnover. He stayed in the game but had difficulty.
``I must have asked him 10 timew `are you okay?’ ‘’ Brooking said. ``You could tell he was hurting, but he kept going out there and grinding.’’
Makes sense
But I am even more impressed that he was able to gut that final drive, especially the Houdini play for the TD. Also explains why he didn’t run when I thought he could/should.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
vintage romo
last minute come-back drive, escaping and keeping the play alive with his feet and coming up big when most needed.
one would think they'll give him a cortizone injection or somethink like it at half time
anyone knows more on the subject?
I also think his team mates are saying it because
it WOULD look like an excuse coming from the player.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Yeah, some of the hate here directed at the Romo was unreal. And I mean at
least one guy literally saying he hates Romo. The guy had a tough day, but he soldiered through and was clutch, too. I’m glad his teammates are telling like it was.
+1...I think he proved alot of people wrong already..
I remember some questioning his heart and work ethic…all I know is the player brings it every game
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
Defense Does it With Depth: Players who impressed include
Mike Jenkins — what a great year he has had. This guy is a threat to intercept it every time and is aggressive to tackle. Plays hurt. He’s completely overcome that “whiff” tackle last year.
Olshanksy — tough run stuffing today
Ball — no major catches made against him as he replaced Hamlin today; good game
Bowen — great tipped pass for the interception that sealed the game; no drop off when he comes in
Scandrick — good tackling despite a few catches against him
Spencer — again, nice pressure and solid game; interception sealed the game. No sacks, no problem
Ware — no need to say anything
Ratliff — great interior pressure
Siavii — nice play when he was in the game; put the smack down on the RB
I know I"m forgetting others, but kudos to the whole defense today.
I can't think of anyone you're forgetting ... except, well ... maybe ...
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:)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
fair enough, but a list of defensive guys without him looks funny :)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I should have included him anyway, I agree. I said above that he
was perhaps our greatest free agent defensive player acquired, and noted that he was named “player of the game” on the radio. Still, I should have included him here!
I'm sorry, but I simply cannot accept your apology
… in fact, I’m gonna need to report this post to SB Nation’s Omissions Committee for further review…
sorry, just feel obliged to do the right thingy
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
my initial reaction to the post was to compliment you ... though you probably took some steam away from the game-ball article...
… but then I got all distracted by the Brooking omission and all bets were off…
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Teach, you are better off with the compliment
it’s well known as a kiss of death around here.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
for all those saying we couldn't survive with siavi out there
I think they’ve been proven wrong. Hes seen a decent amount of PT and played well.
with Rat such a stud, and Siavii coming on so well... does that eliminate the need to draft a NT?
… seems like it …
which sure would silence a ton of the guys on this board
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
LOL
How’s our #3 whatshisname coming along? We seem to be so perfectly set on QBs… but maybe trade Roy to Tennessee for Vince? Or Philly for Vick? We need a wildcat type methinky
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
He was on TV today!
I saw McGee in uniform bouncing a ball off the ground during the game. I was wondering – did he dress or is the guy wearing a replica?? That would be sad.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
I'm pretty sure he dressed
something about Joe D demanding a back-up holder
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
The 3rd QB always dresses
it’s the special rule for backup QBs, your 3rd QB can be inactive, but still be called up for the game, but once he’s activated the starting QB can’t come back in. I think that’s how it works.
Sensabaugh Had A Couple of Hits
He brings the wood.
Free had a nice game....just the one play where he gave up a sack
"Austin made the play, Austin saved the day" Brad Sham
wasn't the sack on Bigg?
he did give up the backside pursuit that got Barber for a loss on the 3rd and short
Love the defense...
but a little worried about the rest. I thought we had a gem in Folk, but looks like that gem may have been mined. And the sputtering offense… reminds me of a supercharged V8 with carb issues… when it catches, look out, but it stalls at some inconvenient times. Back to back weeks with 7 pts, both times scored at the end of the game. Not good, not good. Happy to be 7-3, but hoping for more to really stand a chance in the playoffs.
I really think McBriar's holds may be as much to blame
as Folk’s kick themselves.
Joe D really has to come up with a way to fix that, though, whatever the problem.
A great defense and a more mature qb...
I like out chances in december and january this year more than the last couple.
I'd say so
in years last he would have made a lot more mistakes desperately trying to win the game himself. He played through and they got the win. That’s a big step forward.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
one more thing, with Skins depleted OL
even one more casualty during the game, I was expecting more sacks. I know the preasures were there, but just one sack.
Seems like Campbell avoided about 5 sacks
with Romo-like ability…he played a very good game. Freaking 12 of 13 on 3rd down?
Yeah, he looked like Romo on the completion
where he avoided the rush and got the ball downfield.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
rams driving against cardinals
chance to tie. once again, leinhart enters the game and the cards crash and burn. very interesting lol.
Anquan 1st half = 15 FF points ... 2nd half = 1
say no more, say no more
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I'm playing him in the BTB league, and against him in another league
trying to protect leads in both, so I want him to get just enough lol…
compared to last year, he's been a massive disappointment...
i thought i had a great WR corps with Roy Williams, Boldin, Ochocinco and Crabtree… what a pile of disappointment
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Is it safe to come back? Couldn't take the negativity here during the game anymore.
Still worried about the D giving up a lot of yards; this is a bad offense, so they got away with it, but NO or San Diego? Don’t know how that turns out. That said, clutch plays on that INT to seal the deal.
Yes, you're in a safe place now, Fernie
DalaiLuke has rebalanced the karma and scottmaui changed the subject to FF.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
Did you see? I was called out for my "moral soapbox" after ripping the pessimists bandwagon
where’s 5blings when you need a good entertaining argument?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
btw... bless you my son for your omniscient appreciation of my simplistic clairvoyance
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go bless someone else. I’ve witnessed the destruction your little “blessings” have wrought.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
sorry, but reversing blessings is bad karma
… until further notice, you’re stuck with destructive omniscience
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
A moment of silence for the greatest drug ever
… yea, even higher on my list than those
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I feel an Offensive Explosion coming this Thursday!
Oh wait, it’s just gas from too much stuffing…TR, RW, WTF gentlemen? RW is looking more and more like once a Lion always a Lion…
haha yea i have my doubts
though I think we’ll play better than we did today. I hope we do lol.
I don’t see a blowout, but I think we could definitely win 20-7 or something.
I sure hope so since I will be there...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
stay away?
no. find them each and introduce them. then sit back and just watch. or maybe not… could be like the Ark of the Covenant opening.
And then have your head explode like that Nazi guy??
Don’t do it man. It looks like angels at first, but then it’s all death heads and fire.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
OMG
Raiders just scored a touchdown to tie Cincinnati. Bengals fumbled away the kick return. Oakland at Cincy 17 with less than a minute left.
hopefully they'll party into Tuesday morning over this one !!!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
What?
NOOOOOOOOOOO. I had Cincy in my survivor league.
Well, that means they’re due to be embarassed on national tv.
I had Pittsburgh, then switched to Cinci at the last second...
I was so happy when Pitt went down… only to lose anyway!!!
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I will never get to week 11 again
i was debating between this game and the vikings game, but i decided i wanted to save minnesota since cincy should beat oakland.
Honestly, I thought Oakland could be a sleeper in this game, and ive stayed away from those so far this year, but it gets much harder as you go on.
I would like to point out my
joy that Free played as good as he did. I thought he would struggle more at right tackle but he did good.
I expect some big things out of him, I think he takes Flo’s spot by next year and I said this in the pre season.
i would love this
if Free is out LT of the future….that would be HUGE for this team.
So far its just one game. But Free could hold the key to our future.
this is probably the greatest story of the entire game for the Cowboys
… and the one that leaves the pessimists with little to hold on to, outside of merely a flat showing…
This offense (well, every NFL O) lives and dies by the success of it’s O-Line. If Free proves to be up to the task, we’ve every reason to be optimistic.
What’s Columbo’s time-line for returning ??? I think I read by the end of December?
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
easy drop, harder drop, really hard drop ... impossible drop = 0/4
yup, that about sums it up
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Jerry should fire himself for not keeping TO
… kinda like the drunk king saying: “off with my head!”
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
I'm off the RW bandwagon
OFFICIALLY
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Nov 22, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
Me2.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
I'll try, but he just doesn't do it for me.
If he was somebody else, it’s hard for me to imagine he wouldn’t be benched yet.
Mr. Unreliable…we need him and he’s not pulling through.
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
That goes for me too
I’d love for the guy to produce, but he’s killing the team right now.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
he'll come around, just be patient, if not he'll be dumped in the uncapped year (if there is one)
I doubt JJ will let 10 mil WR on the bench
I've been pulling for him every week ...
… but finally had to bench him myself in FF this week
you are what you are, and this experiment’s shelf-life is coming due
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
+11
As a Longhorn fan I wanted Roy from the time he came into the league, but even I am getting tired of it. I probably wouldn’t be so put out by it if he hadn’t a cried 2 weeks ago. There’s no proof Roy ruined our tempo, but it is at least a huge coincidence that since Romo started concentrating on getting Roy accurate throws, barely anyone else is getting the ball.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
Don't care...
Still glad we don’t have him. I will take Austin and Williams over Williams and T.O. every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
It could have been like Batman Beyond
T.O. as Bruce Wayne. And Austin as the new Batman.
by ym on Nov 22, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
it's 730 am in thailand, do i know where my bar girl is?
g’night boys
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Campo
Tex wishes that the beleaguered Wade Phillips had as much charisma and passion as the Cowboys secondary coach. Wade’s laissez faire approach to life and football is appalling. Again, this team took on the identity of their coach, who’s never won a playoff game, and they barely showed up. Phillips must be fired. He looks like a rain cloud follows him overhead and was out coached by Zorn, which is saying something.
'Wade Phillips
has never gone 5-11 with the Dallas Cowboys, much less 3 times
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Nov 22, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
Specifically, what did Wade do to get "out coached by Zorn?"
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions
Nooooooooooooooo
One doesn’t feed the beast. It only makes it fatter and less coherent.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
He didn't respond so it hardly matters
but I was interested to see what Tex, who is so adamant about Wade leaving, had to back up his opinion. Not surprisingly, it doesn’t appear there was anything.
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by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
Campo was fed up with Newman, who quit on a 3rd down play. But that’s OK on a Wade Phillips’ coached team. Mediocrity is just fine. Shucks, things are good in Wade’s World.
by Montecito Tex on Nov 22, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
If it is OK on a Wade Phillips team, why did Newman get chewed out for it?
Seems like an awfully big contradiction considering Newman did get chewed out for it while Wade was actually still under contract.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Newman started spectating
as they chased Campbell around, and lost treack of his man. Bad discipline.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
davecampo looks like a teddy bear, but he's a little grizzly
Take that TNEW!
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
I was yelling at Newman too so
I was gratified to see that he was getting an earful from someone.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
He's lucky Hamlin held Campo back.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Perry the Platypus?!?
WTF LOL!
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
lol...I'll tell Campo.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Head Coach
A good head coach has to do more than hold the worst offense the Redskins have ever trotted out to 6 points, thanks to a few misses by Rick Smits. Phillips need to be a leader of 52 men, on all sides of the ball. This Cowboys team came out flat, for the second week in a row, and were lucky to avoid disaster. Tex was ready for Jerry to rip the headset right off of Wade’s head. Phillips looks befuddled on the sidelines and his “aw shucks” demeanor is a stain on the franchise.
Be honest...
Wade Phillips will not be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys in 2010. The franchise is too sexy for this bland, fat re-tread who’s team is their own worst enemy.
by Montecito Tex on Nov 22, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
you might be right, but JJ does not want a strong minded coach,
I can see maybe JG, but not Holmgrens, Shanahans etc. BTW how’s the roundabout on 101 by Vons coming along?
What's your schtick going to be next week, big boy?
First Briant Stewart, then Romo, now the head coach. Will you harp upon Hudson Houck as the achilles heel of this team next week?
by Urinal Mint on Nov 22, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
I think we have a bad spell on us for 2 weeks in a row,
RW’s fumble in GB and MB’s fumble on the second posesion, those two plays negated a posibility for us to come out with a lead and opening up the playbook for JG
burp
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
I had a hiccup in there too, but it didn't show.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Content and Relieved
Make no mistake, Tex is relieved and ready to enjoy an evening in Austin, but this wasn’t a Championship performance. Wade Phillips rarely has this team clicking on all cylinders, but its a win over the Redskins and not much else could be finer… except for a few more cold Shiners. Ask for the Montecito suite on Thursday if you are in the stadium.
Shiner blonds, please!
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
Cue the music for a Terry Tex personal meeting and bromance
by I_miss_Switzer on Nov 22, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
yea but he said after the game that hes fine
whatever thats worth…
Oh yeah, forgot...Jenkins suffered a concussion.
Cornerback Mike Jenkins suffered a concussion late in the fourth quarter when he crashed into inside linebacker Bradie James on a tackle of running back Rock Cartwright. Jenkins, who is already playing with a bruised biceps injury, should have stayed down to allow the team trainers to tend to him. But Jenkins stood up and the Redskins ran a play.
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thats what i thought
he got rocked. He looked completely out after that hit I was surprised the refs didn’t do anything.
Zebras haven't helped us much lately.
That play could’ve been disaterous.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Why was James on the sidelines late in the game?
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
Don't think he was hurt. Perhaps just the package they were in?
BTW, James has been playing very physically lately—much the same way he was playing at the end of last season. I wonder if they were just giving him a breather becuz of that.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmm.
I’ve never known James to get a break. Must be Carp is playing pretty darn good to give James a breather.
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
After Carp got his bell rung, he sure came on strong.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'll resist the blonde joke
Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"
man, tons of concussions these days
big ben had one too. I know part of it is just that they’re getting more attention, but still…
hope he’s able to come back but Thursday is a quick turnaround for even a minor concussion.
I read where they had these new $1000 mouthpieces that were supposed to help limit concussions.
Wonder if the Cowboys use them.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Lets go cutler!
barf.
If Philly wins (and i think they will), they better embarass him and run the ball so can pull off a ff upset.
This is the Bears season though…we’ll see. If they pull this off it really boosts our playoff chances
Maybe he got his picks outta his system last week?
They’ve had a good 10 days to prep for the Eagals.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
They're still pretty horrible and Cutler doesn't look like much. Wonder if anyone still wants to trade for him??
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Campbell would be a nice fit on the Bears.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, Danny might but
I actually meant any Cowboy fans. LOL
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
He'd be a great pitching coach.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
okay
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Mannequin Two
Sequels are always better.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
I really hope...
This team is conscious of the pathetic performance they put out there today. Specially Romo and Williams and they pick it up on Thursday. Oakland beat Cinci today and they should be fired up. Gradkowski looks much better than that other moron they had playing QB. The way we’re playing Oakland will be no walk in the park and then I don’t know how the hell we’re going to win 2 more with the rest of the schedule looking pretty tough….
how we're going to win 2 more?
sorry, can’t resist the urge to point out when pessimism and concern don’t quite equal reality …
1. We play the Raiders.
2. We’ve already gone 2-1 against the division… and you can argue that should be 3-0
3. We play the Redskins (I know, I know, that counts above, but couldn’t resist)
4. Since when did San Diego at home and New Orleans become automatic losses?
My conservative bet is we go 4-2, winning the two we should, and splitting the rest.
Call me a crazy optimist, but reality is on my side.
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
its amazing the way this season is breaking down
games 1&2 – offense clicking, defense not playing toooo well, we ran the ball extraordinarily well. Romo’s disasterous Giants game makes everyone forget that we offensively dominated that game
Games 3, 4 and half of chiefs game - Offense was really poor. Tons of penalties. Tons of blown blocks. Romo off in the Denver game. Romo overly conservative with throws in general. Once Austin got going we took off.
2nd half of chiefs game, falcons and seahawks. Offense tears it up as Austin stakes his claim to #1 wr.
Eagles, Packers and Redskins. this has just been a struggle. Continue to beat ourselves and take points off the board. In the philly game, we converted big plays to Austin and Crayton while we haven’t in the other two, but we haven’t been good offensively in any of them.
lol who knows where this unit will be in 2 games.
Not a bad review ...
Shows consistency is lacking. We’re now 10 games in … if they continue to play inconsistent ball into December, you can’t expect a 4-game playoff run. So now’s the time to prove that the good performances are for real.
That’s as pessimistic as I get :)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
4.6 ypc
for all the complaints about the offense today, they managed to put up 153 yards on 33 carries, for 4.6 ypc. The Skins aren’t a great run defense, but still that’s not at all shabby considering that they expected us to run.
Yeah, I read that.
Good to see Barber bashing it up again, and Felix getting double-digit carries for the first time ever!
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
Yes and there weren't any big gainers to skew the average
there were a lot of 4-8 yarders in there. Consistent yardage. Good stuff.
Good point.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, they showed him on the sidelines about 58 times with his big ol' diamonds.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
A certain deadskin player needs to avoid the trash talk especially when they do not back it up.
Guess who failed to make a sack on romo when he had the TD pass to crayton? It was none other than deadskin trash-talker Arapaho (I know it is arakpo but witten called him arapaho). Man, that has to sting for the rookie, he has a chance to make a play and back-up his talk and fails. I think dallas should make Shuisam their mvp; he kept 6 points off the board.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Didn't know he made any trash talk...
But Orakpo is going to be a hell of a player and a thorn in the side of the Cowboys for a while. Of course, I’m a Longhorns fan. And it PAINS me he went to Washington.
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 22, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
Stupid Redskins.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
And Aaron Ross went to the Giants...
So two of my favorite UT players go to two of the teams I hate the most.
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 22, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Stupid Giants.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
He was on Galloway and Co. and he was saying how he was looking foward to going against out Oline
because they looked like they were either lost or getting beat in the GB game. Arapaho was basically trashing our Oline.
DCfanatic had it on his site:
http://dcfanatic.thedallascowboyshow.com/2009/11/19/orakpo-taking-shots-at-cowboys-o-line/
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
rookies shouldn't trash talk
all talk, no action. how’s that offensive line now, Arapaho? How’d it feel to whiff on Romo for his game winning TD? lol.
this guy is actually a really good player who we’ll be going up against regularly for many years, but it sure is nice to see him come up empty after his big talk this week.
I can't believe I'm saying this
But the Raiders are playing better football than the Cowboys right now.
we had only 305
30 point difference is not great comparing Romo to Gradkowski, when they were also up against a tough defense. after the last 2 games, and them beating Cincy today, I’m not taking anything for granted, and I’m sure the players aren’t either. They’ll have to earn this win Thursday, despite how bad we might have thought the Raiders to be.
last time I checked 305 is better than 275
and this has nothing to do with taking the Raiders lightly, I was just pointing out an incorrect statement.
In Romo we Trust
wel
we’ll get to find out next week, won’t we?
the day after the day the day after tomorrow
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
In Thailand it was like last week sometime
‘cause we’re miles and miles and miles away :)
Doomsday returns... Wade Phillips style.
Not even close...
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Witten is the target
This year so far Jason Witten has been the target of every defense and well covered thus diminishing Dallas ‘s offensive production…Is he as good as we thought or is the coaching (defensive) of other teams they face that good?? Dallas’s coaching is (in my opinion ) weak and being pushed around by the Quarterback…he has over ridden the coach on several occasions …WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT? Pillsbury dough boy needs to go. I hated seeing coach parcells go. Would Romo tell parcells what to do? embaress him??? I DON’T THINK SO. bOYS AINT GOING KNOWHERE UNTIL THEY GET A TOUGH COACH WHO WILL INSTILL THAT FEAR BACK INTO THE LOCKER ROOM.-
Maybe Wade should paint his face like John Randle did.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Why not? John Randle has so many Super Bowl rings....
Oh wait…
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by Cowboyfan729 on Nov 22, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
at least it was nice to see Martellus step up with some big plays today
if they’re going to focus on shutting down Witten, we need to be able to make them pay with Marty B
Back in the day...
Dallas has always had the annoying habit of playing down to their opposition – as they did today,
Shoot, the Cards gave us fits back in the 70’s and we lost games to them we should not have, and that was when Roger was here.
I have seen this kind of thing too many times over the years – some things never change.
a classic Boys-Skins game
ugly, close, hard fought, and without relation to either team’s record…. in the last 2 years, if you throw out the final game of 2007 when we had the #1 seed locked up and sat many starters, the total point difference is only 8 points over 4 games. average of 2 points per game. this was really very typical.
For as bad as they looked today offensively
they won.
Oakland beat a very worthy opponent in their back yard.
Expect a similar effort on Thursday from both ends.
Dallas 20
Oakland 13
I don't think they need to cut Folk, necessarily
but why not run Beuhler out there for the next FG attempt to rattle his cage a bit?
I think cuz of Buehler's broken little piggy toe, that they'll just stick with Folk until he stops Folking up.
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 22, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
Dont let Romo off the hook
Dont let Romo off the hook concerning Roy Williams..It seems to me Romo passes to Roy have been off the mark or just too plain HIGH!!!! Nobody else is Romo throwing Shaquille Oneal passes to but Roy!!! I dont blame Roy that much cause as I recall ROMO IS THE ONE WHO STRUNG HIM OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE AND GOT HIM HURT GOING FOR A HIGH BALL!!!!!!
New flash
they all play, they all take risk, even kickers. Roy is paid to CATCH THE FOOTBALL. Not CATCH THE EASY FOOTBALLS. Not CATCH THE FOOTBALLS THAT ARE SAFEST TO CATCH. Not CATCH THE BALLS THAT MAKE THE MOST BUSINESS SENSE. Just CATCH THE FREAKIN BALL.
Some will be perfect, some will be high, some will be low. He still has to CATCH THE FOOTBALL. It’s in the job description. I checked.
FREE THE OGLETREE!!!
rw no divo
You screwed the pooch on that comment Raf. While he’s not been the #1 receiver we hoped and paid for, he’s been a team player and has not moaned, groaned and divided the locker room like our old pal TO.
Still perplexed as to why he’s lost the sticky hands he had at UT and Detroit; hopefully they’ll return soon.
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