ROY WILLIAMS??? GET HIM OFF MY TEAMYESNo

by bloodsweatandtears on Nov 22, 2009 7:00 PM CST

IS ROY WILLIAMS A RECEIVER??? cuz i certainly cant tell. how many dropped balls is he gonna have? He honestly looks horrible out there, its embarrassing. Put someone else in there...teach him a lesson. your telling me that Ogletree wouldnt try to play out of his mind if given this kind of chance? Even give Hurd more snaps. Maybe even matt mcbriar? he probably can catch a football better then Roy right now. What does everyone else think?

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Is Romo ever gonna hit him...or any other WR in stride again?

Williams has some drops, but jesus, the number of times Romo has flat out missed him when open or hung him out to dry to get his ribs crushed doubles Williams’ # of drops. the far bigger problem today was Romo.

by stephen1 on Nov 22, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions

ROMO

Hit Roy in the hands on 3 different occasions yesterday…ALL DROPS!!!
You think Romo should start hitting him in the facemask….Again…Like last week in green bay?
Oh thats right…He dropped that one too!

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 23, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Exactly.

Quit making excuses people. Williams sucks and they need to sit him down for a game or two to let him know that the way he is playing will not be tolerated. Maybe he’ll man up.

Jimmy Johnson for GM.

by TXHC on Nov 23, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions

I disagree its rw

When your getting paid to be a legit number 1 wr u need to make plays which obviously rw struggles with..With his size he should be able to attack the football and make those tough catches..Like i said many times rw is soft and it shows on a weekly basis..

by scandrick32 on Nov 22, 2009 11:20 PM CST reply actions

+1

Romo has thrown some off the mark, but more often it’s Roy flat out missing the pass. Shouldn’t a guy being paid his salary catch a few that aren’t right on target, as well as the ones that bounce off his hands, arms, facemask, etc? I think so. Roy needs to step it up.

You can't stop Patrick Crayton, you can only hope to contain him.

by APerfectStar on Nov 23, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions

no doubt that Roy isn't living up to expectations

but Romo was overthrowing Witten, Bennett and Austin too. Romo probably threw about 8 overthrown ball yesterday to open WR’s/TE’s, to me that was the bigger problem with our offense. RW is not a #1, but we have enough talent on offense to succeed anyway. The problem yesterday was Romo.

by stephen1 on Nov 23, 2009 8:20 AM CST up reply actions

I think by the end of the season

Romo and RW will be in sync, they just need more time to work on their timing, it will come.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 23, 2009 7:56 AM CST reply actions

timing?

Their timing looks fine now. Roy is just not catching balls.

by quincyyyyy on Nov 23, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions

+1

The proof is that our opponents are doubling AUSTIN and not RW.

You'll never get in a traffic jam,while going the extra mile. -Roger staubach

by TrueBlue24 on Nov 23, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions

They've been working with each other since February.

Romo instantly clicked with T.O., Crayton, and Witten when he took over. I think it’s deeper than just being in sync.

2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: not 11-5 :(
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25

by Grady90 on Nov 23, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions

Sigh

All this Williams bashing gets tiring. Good lord. This team is 7-3, and yet people are still bitching about something. There’s a lot more issues with this team besides Roy. Was the trade a good one? No. Is he worth all that? No. But oh well. Move on from it. He’s going to be a Cowboy for a while.

All I keep reading is that he needs to be benched. OK, for who? Hurd? Meh. Ogletree? So far, he’s been a preseason stud, and a WR screen guy. That’s it. The WR depth on this team isn’t that great, so benching him is out of the question, in my opinion.

Roy isn’t your true #1 WR. He’s a WR who excels in certain routes. It’s up to the coaches to put him in those routes (like his TD catch vs Tampa Bay.)

by Dub_TC on Nov 23, 2009 10:36 AM CST reply actions

and

I know people are tired of the drops. But he’s shown he can catch the ball in the past. We just gotta hope it’s a phase.

by Dub_TC on Nov 23, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions

Good point about the routes.

If Roy is dropping them on those mid routes where he gets hammered, why are they continuing to go to him there? I know that he drop that “visor” one on the sideline, but he’s made awesome grabs over there in past games.

What happened to hitting him on fades/out-n-ups? Romo seems to throw those well. Also, the WR screens were lacking from his repertoire, which he and RW seem to have good chemistry on.

Maybe they’re trying to get him killed.

I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...

by Aaron Novinger on Nov 23, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions

It wasn’t too long ago that you all were happy as hell to have RW on your team when you traded for him. I think it’s funny that everyone else was telling you that you overpaid for him….none of you believed one word about that. Now I bet you’d do anything to kick him off your team.

Huge waste of draft picks for a guy that on any other team is a #3 receiver!!!

by slandog on Nov 23, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions

RW = 75 Yards Against the Eagles

What is up with Eagles fans leaving comments on every thread?

Agreed that RW hasn’t lived up to expectations— Romo should only throw to him when playing against lousy teams like the Eagles.

by Taoboy on Nov 23, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions

Hasty generalization...not everybody was happy.

I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...

by Aaron Novinger on Nov 23, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions

Just think, Roy has just as many Super Bowl rings as the Eagles organization

by mhuff13 on Nov 23, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions

I was never happy with the guy coming here

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Nov 24, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions

I like this...

So since I agree with half of the people on this thread you attack me. It’s a public thread, I’m not bashing anyone or your organization. All I said was when he was signed every one of you said he was going to be great, him AND TO together would be unstoppable. Well now look TO is moved on and RW is your #2 if not #3 guy. I’m just stating facts and you all agree.

75 yards agains the Eagles. Yeah that is a decent game, but does that mean he was worth his trade? No I don’t think so. So you can keep smiling about those huge 75 yards if it helps you sleep at night Taoboy…haha, boy says a lot!

Sure the Eagles have zero Super Bowl rings…..but aren’t NFL Championships the same exact thing except they changed the name a while back basically? Oh yeah they are aren’t they……but you educated Cowboy fans seem to forget things like that. One day maybe you’ll come back with a good argument.

Like I said, I only commented on the fact that he hasn’t been worth what you gave up for him, and I get bashed for it. But at the same time a lot of you agree with me. Fine, bash me for being an Eagles fan, but you know I’m right. So I can still smile and you can pout, but you know I’m right, and you only bash me because I’m an Eagles fan AND I’m right.

by slandog on Nov 24, 2009 10:02 AM CST reply actions

All I said was when he was signed every one of you said he was going to be great,

This is categorically untrue. I was not happy, and many others here were unhappy as well. By saying that, you either don’t know what you are talking about with respect to the opinions on this board, or you don’t care and are just trying to stir up trouble.

Yeah, the Eagles won some NFL Championships. The last one was with Chuck Bednarik, right? Is he still alive? Were you alive when the Eagles last won a championship, or do you just know about because the old guys down at the tap room tell you about it as they slobber down their Pat’s (or Geno’s, I don’t have a dog in that fight)?

And stop with the “educated cowboys fans” putdowns. I have been to games in the Vet (not the Linc yet), and you lot are just as dopey as any fans I have been around.

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Nov 24, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions

You’re right I’ll take back the “educated cowboy fans” because every team have their winners, so that is my bad.

But the fact that we haven’t won a championship in quite some time doesn’t stop the fact that we have still won it. It’s a fact look it up. I know you’ve all won more recently but the fact that you all say we’ve never won one…..is so incorrect. I’m just trying to teach some of you a lesson.

by slandog on Nov 25, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions

We're saying you've never won a Super Bowl.

Which is true.

Chop it up, and spin your Eagle fandom/rationalization however you like…. But we’re talking Super Bowls. Not NFL Championships.

by tkosmith on Nov 25, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions

Superbowls = NFL Championships. THEY ARE THE SAME THING. At the time NFL Championship game was the Superbowl.

Do you need a picture to understand this. I’m sorry never mind I’ll give you a break I should be so hard on the handicapped.

I’ll go slow for you on this one…..Have…….a…….good……Thanksgiving! There do you understand that?

by slandog on Nov 25, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions

I tell you what...

We’ll keep smiling about those 75 yards as long as you keep thinking those NFL Championships are equal to Lombardi Trophies.

Upside to our situation? Most guys on this blog were actually alive when our team won it all. You guys are still living on the memories of “old-timers” who can vividly recall what life was like when everyone drove bubble top Pontiacs, football didn’t have the forward pass, and women wore skirts down to the floor.

Congrats!

by tkosmith on Nov 24, 2009 4:17 PM CST up reply actions

So why aren’t the two equal? Because the names are different? Come on your better then that.

Ok so you’re bringing what have you done for me lately into the game. Alright so you won a Superbowl about 15 years ago give or take, sounds like yesterday to me. But what about winning a playoff game……just WINNING ONE PLAYOFF GAME. That was just the other day too I suppose.

Haha, nice try. Keep up the good work son…..and Congrats to you as well! If not winning a playoff game in over 10 years is what keeps your blood flowing so be it.

by slandog on Nov 25, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions

So what's worse?

I don’t view the two as being equal, as the league was VASTLY different from what it has been the last thirty years. Consider me an outsider, but I’m one of the few who think it gets harder and harder to win it all as time goes on. Yet, that is merely my own opinion, so if you think they’re equal, then good for you.

Not winning a playoff game in umpteen years, or winning a couple, yet constantly falling short of the “true” goal. As far as I’m concerned, not winning a playoff game and getting bounced, is equal to winning playoff games and getting bounced. If you don’t win it all, it was all for nothing.

Feel free to disagree, but every year one team wins it all, and everyone else is playing catch-up.

by tkosmith on Nov 25, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions

Very true

But what would you rather have? Sit at home and watch playoff games you don’t care about? OR wait for it, watching a playoff game that means something to you. Being with your friends at your place or at a bar and sitting on the edge of your seat hoping your team wins…living and dying with every play.

You’re right there is disappointment when your team makes it to the playoffs and then never makes the Superbowl. I’m the first to admit that the Eagles are 1-4 in the NFC CHampionship game. But I’d rather have been there the last 12 years to have a fighting chance.

In saying all of that, one of the biggest letdowns has to be when Romo fumbled the snap on a FG. I remember cheering like crazy when it happened. But if it happened to an Eagles player I’d be devastated (like you probably were I’d imagine). But I’d rather have that opportunity then not i guess is what I’m trying to say.

by slandog on Nov 25, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions

I'd rather have my team win the whole enchilada.

Perhaps it’s fun for you to see how close the Iggles can get to winning it but, getting close and not winning are two different things. I understand your reluctance to admit that the Eagles have basically been an also-ran since the AFL-NFL Merger, but face the facts, Jack.

The thing that gets me the most if that I know the minute you guys do win a Super Bowl (Yes, it will happen eventually), your immediate thoughts will be ‘Yay, we don’t have to hang on to our argument that we were NFL champions at one point in time!’. You guys have a good team, and have competed at a high level for years, to no avail.

Win a ring, and I’ll pipe down. Until then, put on your Vince Papale replica, celebrate your Romo fumbles, your 44-6’s, your 4,862 time NFC East champions. Perpetual losers celebrate the small victories. We celebrate the big ones.

by tkosmith on Nov 25, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions