Sunday Games Open Thread
With a Week 12 win already safely in the bank, we can sit back and watch the rest of the NFL today.
Matchups that are of special interest to Cowboys fans include teams that are battling for NFC playoff position.
Philadelphia (6-4) host the Redskins.
The Falcons (5-5) play Tampa Bay.
Arizona (7-3) goes to Tennessee.
Chicago visits Minnesota (9-1).
Use this thread as for all the games to be played this Sunday, including the Sunday night game. Raf will have an article later this evening about the dreaded December swoon and the thruth behind it. After that, we'll be back on a non-holiday schedule starting Monday.
Hope you had a good holiday weekend.
This is an open thread for game chat.
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WTF?
eagles start with an onside kick. What is this? Pop Warner?
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 29, 2009 12:05 PM CST reply actions
nice play to start off the game though - brought back memories of when the iggles tried that crap on us.....and seems like we ran it back for a TD
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 29, 2009 12:05 PM CST reply actions
which Cowboy was it that snagged that onside kick to start the game....it was years ago - can't remember
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 29, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
ah - Randal Williams looks like:
“Add beating the Philadelphia Eagles to the list of things the Dallas Cowboys can do under Bill Parcells that they couldn’t the last few years.
Randal Williams foiled a game-opening onside kick by returning it 37 yards for a touchdown and Billy Cundiff kicked a 28-yard field goal with 1 minute 11 seconds left to give the Cowboys a 23-21 victory over the Eagles on Sunday, ending a six-game losing streak to their division rivals.
Dallas had lost those games by an average of 25 points and hadn’t scored an offensive touchdown in the last three. That made this a key early … "
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 29, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
I believe it was Dave Campo's first game as a HC
and the eagals ran an on site to start the game and never looked back. They embarrassed us at Texas Stadium it was the opening weekend.
i couldn't quite recall dcfanz - but the article i found said it was Parcells, and that we won the game
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 29, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
yep I remember Parcells's game too, but
the game I am talking about was maybe in 2001, first game of the season. J. Galloway blew up his knee as well, that was his first game as a Cowboy
u were dead on dcfanz -
Staley torches Cowboys for 262 total yards in 41-14 win
Latest: Monday September 04, 2000
" But for all the offensive and defensive success, it was Reid’s roll of the dice on special teams that set the tone.
The Cowboys were expecting a deep opening kickoff, but David Akers popped it up for an onside kick that Dameane Douglas caught at the 42.
Staley, the Eagles’ first 200-yard runner since Steve Van Buren in 1949, then gained 45 of the next 58 yards. The drive was capped by a 1-yard touchdown pass to wide-open Jeff Thomason — and the rout was on.
“I came up with it a month ago,” Reid said of the onside kick. “We saw some things in their front where we thought it could work.”
Seems like Reid has a fetish for game opening onside kicks…
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 29, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Wow - RZ fail
the Eagles game may be more enjoyable than the Dallas-Oakland game lol
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 29, 2009 12:18 PM CST reply actions
I just had to clerify for my wife
When she made a gagging sound when I cheered the Redskins score. I’m cheering AGAINST the Eagles, not for the Skins…
Houston up 14-0 against the Colts, Schaub is 8-8 with 1 TD
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 29, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions
I think Washington has no chance in this game, unless
McNabb gets injured and Vick has to be the QB for extended time
Skins may not score again
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
I hate the Skins,but I hate Philly more
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
I missed
the Oakland game..have not seen a SNAP. Anybody know where I can at least get some highlights online? (I was hunting and I forgot to TiVo it.)
off topic, but did anybody watch the LSU / Arkansas game last night? sweet jeezus Chad
Jones absolutely killed one of the Razorback receivers
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 29, 2009 12:37 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, I saw that
then that same receiver got the score anyway! (though we lost in the end….blah)
I still believe in Romo.
The Colts are shell schocked.
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 29, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions
Anyone else watching Colts/Texans.....
Really enjoy having Billick do color commentary on the game.
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 29, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions
is he bein' cocky? i kind of get a kick outta him too
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 29, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Not at all.
He just has a good take on the game that perfectly matches the analyst. Just a really enjoyable broadcast so far.
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 29, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah....
He’s a really good analyst for sure. I enjoy listening to him when he talks about anything because not only does he analyze but he also admits to when he’s wrong.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
It's the Colts by week
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Washington just scored....
Makes the 7-6 win make the defense look pretty nice.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions
Jason Campbell was tremendous in that game.
Cowboys should have had about 6 sacks.
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 29, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
For sure...
I was at the game and we were all like… “Where did this come from?”
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Was that Orakpo?
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 29, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Orakpo is the defensive rookie of the year hands down.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said last week...
Having him in our division is PAINFUL.
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 29, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
What a catch.
Who the heck is Garson? And why does Indy continually find these receivers?
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helps to have pm as qb
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
yea, thats the other thing, they have all these receivers that seem to come from no where, there is one common denominator…
one of the best ever
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
In my made up bio of him...
he is a gem that Indy found off the shores of France.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
ha..
Or a french pimp that plays football just so he can recruit new talent…
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Nov 29, 2009 1:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If we make it to the SB and play the Colts, and half our cheerleaders disappear
we’ll know why LOL
I still believe in Romo.
The Colts are being destroyed by boot legs and PA.
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Is there any doubt that Andre Johnson is the best WR in the NFL?
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runs great routes, works the zones so well...
not as flashy as Moss, but more consistent… can beat almost anybody…
13 pts ain't sht for colts to overcome
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
he's been the one bright spot for that team this year
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -Max McGee
by BigDinSC on Nov 29, 2009 1:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Philly fans are so stupid...
I swear to god, is their a more ignorant fan in the NFL?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 1:20 PM CST reply actions
Two weeks in a row, Peyton Manning has thrown two INTs. Maybe the Colts
should think about drafting a QB next spring. That was sarcasm.
tony romo actually has less ints than peyton this year… if he threw two today, then peyton has 11 for the season i believe? compared to romos 7
haha
of course peyton has more TDs too, and a lot more attempts
Watching the Eagles Receivers, I'm even more happy to have Miles...
Jackson runs almost no routes across the middle… Guess it’s too easy to redirect him…
Maclin can run fast, but he can’t stop and start fast.
Miles has been in the league for 4 years
Jackson is a beast…both in PR and WR….and he should get better with experience.
Not sure if he is as versatile...
If you can shut him down over the top, how effective can he be over the middle? I haven’t seen him make those kind of plays yet.
he also can be a head case
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Larry Johnson 8.2 YPC
what is it with head case players flaming out, then getting dumped, then experiencing a total rebirth in Cincinnati?
I still believe in Romo.
wash can fcukup a crowbar
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Bad weekend for Notre Dame fans
ND loses it’s last game, and Brady Quinn continues to look terrible (though he did have a good game last week against….Detroit)
I still believe in Romo.
As Bad as Indy Has Played
And as good as the Texans have played, it’s now 20-13, Houston. Two important pass interference penalties helped.
IND-HOU is always close
no matter how good/bad both teams are over the course of a season, the body match up well and it usually comes down to the wire.
I still believe in Romo.
NFC EAST......
after seeing NY and Philly play this week so far, clearly, to me at least, it’s Dallas’ division to lose….
All Dallas has to do is win in December
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
I'd like to see TCU play Bama or Fla. in a BCS bowl.
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
It should be
Tex vs. Florida in MNC and TCU vs. Bama in the other.
I’d have to look at the matchups though to see if that’s possible.
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 29, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
I think TCU will play Cinci
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
interesting...
If houston scores one more touchdown and the saints score at least 18 against the patriots our defense will lead the league in scoring defense
Can I have you balance my checkbook...
good work with the stats…
haha
turns out since it looks like cincy wil be pitching a shutout, theyll lead the league. cleveland would have to score 15 for us to be tied. and pittsburgh would have to score 12 against the ravens for us to win that (which sounds probable to me)
and that is a very importent stat...
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Nov 29, 2009 1:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nate Jones and Jaque Reeves
look like NFL caliber players for other teams. Whats up with that?
Jacque Reeves
I haven’t spoken his name since his facemask penalty helped the Giants score that 47sec TD at the end of the first half of our playoff game.
I still believe in Romo.
fantasy question real quick...
do you start harvin or ward without big ben today?
TD redskins
although it looked like Campbell crossed the LOS
Touchdown Redskins
We hold them to two field goals, but they can move up and down the field on the Eagles.
Redskins lead, 21-16
Our defense is moving into the dominant category.
WP is a very good DC
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Redskins receivers are making some great plays.
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by Brandon Worley on Nov 29, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
Bills QB Fitzpatrick is their rushing leader LOL
is TO playing?
He don't like the middle : )
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
that hit sent him to the locker room
Drinking the Blue Kool-Aid since 1980. "Ohhhhhh yeeeaaaaahhhh!"
He hasn't come back...
Rib injury? Speculation?
Houston will find a way to lose to Manning and the Colts
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Kinda the samething
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Texans would be a perrenial playoff team if they didn't play in the AFC South
I still believe in Romo.
Jacques Reeves just let Garcon run right past him.
That was ridiculous.
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a little off topic, but did anyone read
Mosley’s article on Eli, where he says the plantar fasciitis on his foot is leading to a stress reaction in another bone and is very susceptible to a big injury. Anyway Giants season might be over if we win next Sunday
their season is over if eli leaves
if he cant play against dallas, ware will get the sack record for one game haha
What the French?! Toast!
Mosley declared Eli
the new savior and now he has to make up excuses why he sucks.
to clarify
I don’t mean the the inhury is an excuse. In his article Mosley points to it as a reason for Eli struggling, which is kind of a stretch imo because he was playing subpar before the injury.
or at least on/off.
i hate eli but before his injury he was a scoring machine for my fant.foot.team
I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....
by hashishkabob on Nov 29, 2009 2:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well if true that sucks for Eli
But sounds like another mediot making an excuse for the Giants struggles
Iggles self-destructing?
I can only follow the game via NFL.com. is my impression right?
Not executing the short game on offense...
Jackson out
WAS is not much better, those 5 yards offsides are killing them
I’m amazed there is another team more penalizaed than us
The Skins might be 3-7
But their defense is playing outstanding. If they had any offense, they would be a playoff team.
Indeed
Games like this put things into perspective.
A win IS a win afterall.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
wash playing not to lose
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
if philly loses i might have to go trolling and rub it in
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
take some backup
it’ll be ugly in there after a 3 game skid
Drinking the Blue Kool-Aid since 1980. "Ohhhhhh yeeeaaaaahhhh!"
Switching back and forth between the Eagles game call and Washington
The Eagles guys are disgusted.
The Redskins guys are in it, but NERVOUS. I’ve never heard Sonny Jurgensen that way. He’s trying to nurse the win home Their play by play guy mentioned Suisham’s miss in Dallas about five before he hit the last field goal. :)
Haha...
If I was a Washington fan I would be loving this, hell they have nothing to lose really. All they can do is try and prevent Philly from getting into the playoffs.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
Too funny
Sonny and Sam Huff were ripping on Landry when he missed the first tackle on Avant:
“he went for the kill shot instead of the tackle.” “That’s one of his faults….”
Now, they’re praising him for smacking Avant on the next play.
Okay just got home from thanksgiving vacation
and God forgive me for this, but…
Let’s GO REDSKINS!
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
damn skippy spirals : ) - it's been tough on all of us rooting for the skins today, but it's the best thing for the boyz : )
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 29, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Like I told my wife earlier
I justify it by saying I’m not cheering for the Skins, but against the Eagles lol
slap a collar on the receiver's necks - Vick'll be sure to hit 'em then
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 29, 2009 2:44 PM CST reply actions
LOL, they've been my pick all year
Actually, they’ve been my pick every season except 2007 (picked Baltimore)
I still believe in Romo.
Yea Peyton is like Michael Jordan in the regular season
EVERY year he could be the MVP, but sometimes you just gotta give it to someone else
You know, they have trouble with the Chargers
and Norv’s guys look tough this year.
wash will find a way to blow it
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
too much time...
campbell can’t play in the clutch.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
let's hope so
would be a little breathing room
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
ahh
I was already smelling that 2 game division lead..
Bloody deadskins f’d it up
by SDTrueblue on Nov 29, 2009 2:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
i'm afraid of any division matchup
in the nfc beast
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
Eagles can mess it up too
Don’t count out McNabb
great play
good fake.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
oh crap
sellers is a great player they need him.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
watch philly march down the field
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
they have a chance
but it is campbell
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
i'll give 3 to1 they don't score
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
fox switched
shoot.
The redskins will be a tough out for anyone over the next month. If haynesworth were in these last two games, they may’ve beaten both us and philly.
4th and 1.....
Low throw…and then Campbell is slung to the ground.
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lol thats it sorry ass deadskins
How bout dem Frogs!!!!
Redskins fold like a blanket....
shocking…..
by death of the cool on Nov 29, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions
Not a confidence game for the Eagles...
We played better versus the Skins. Plus, Jackson never came back… The Redskins may still have done us a favor…
Yeah, saw that...
…what’d he hurt? His jaw? Neck?
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
Falcons just won too
On a Chris Redman TD to Roddy White. So they’re still in the playoff hunt.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
I know that it's hard to be a Cowboys fan sometimes...
but thank God i didn’t grow up to be a Redskin fan!
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
Avant has become a strong player
He’s a big strong receiver and is very good after the catch. I don’t like him.
Larry Allen benched 700 pounds. That is Leonard Davis times two.
To the minute
New England — 164 (after 10 games)
Dallas — 182 points allowed
Indy — 184 points allowed.
If the Saints score 20 or more, Dallas starts the week as the NFL’s number one
defense.
correction, your pre-season pick, the Bengals, are ahead of us at 174. Baltimore is also still 11 points ahead of us before the game against the Steelers.
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 29, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
Correct. had not factored Cincy into the mix
they’re the #1 scoring D now.
I’ll take tops in the NFC for the moment.
thought Baltimore may stay up there now that I think about it.
cause Ben ain’t playing
lol, but if you look at Yards required for each point scored against our defense, were No.2 (19.8), just a hair’s breadth behind Indy (19.9), and we’ll stay in 2nd regardless of the outcomes tonight and tomorrow.
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 29, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, up to the minute
Pats — 164 (after 10 games)
Ravens – 173 (after 10 games)
Bengals — 174 pts. allowed
Cowboys — 182 pts. allowed
Colts — 184 pts.allowed.
How about that Mike Zimmer?
Very nice. Wade is way underappreciated.
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 29, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
I looked at what Wade has done since the Giants game
very impressive. It’s in the late story that goes up in about two hours.
Then I've gotta stay awake to read that
I’m also preparing something on the defense and 3rd downs for a post tomorrow, so I’ll read yours and then edit mine lol
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 29, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
phew (breathing a sigh of relief)
that’s the centerpiece of mine. And I would’ve hated to delete that piece :-)
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 29, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
I always felt Parcells
second biggest mistake was not staying with the Zimmer 4-3.
First was not getting a legitimate pass rusher in 04 when there were so many available.
3rd was not getting a second corner when so many were a avaible
4th Jacob Rogers
5th Stephen Peterman
like I said , I believe that this division is ours..
based on what I have seen this week.., what do you think Raf?
Phillys still right in it though
The Giants may be worse than wshington at this point. And Eli suffered a stress fracture in his foot, he’ll be playing hurt even more than normal.
But we do control our own destiny. If we sweep this division the last 3 games, we win it.
Huh?
Win in New York before you THINK of saying something like that.
The last I checked Philly was a 2nd half team and while they’re winning ugly, they’re winning.
That’s all that counts.
If we win the three remaining division games
its hard to imagine us not winning the division.
wouldnt write off philly yet, but they sure look beatable.
Philly has atlanta next week
they won today so they’re still alive and will play hard. they’ll be up for the game too w/mike vick returning to atlanta.
if dallas wins and philly loses, we’ll go into mid december w/a three game lead on the gints, a two game lead on the iggles, and those two playing each other still.
why?
dallas can go in and beat the gints and atlanta can beat philly.
not saying it will happen, just saying those are both winnable games for dallas and atlanta.
every game left on their schedule is winnable
and every one can be lost as well.
Yep
its up to them.
they’re much more healthy this year though. they need to be confident and focused.
I’m telling you, they stop turning it over, they roll in december.
Chris Johnson is amazing.
I love Felix and all, but……damn.
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do you need one?
if the side of your leg is on the ground, that seems down to me.
The rule goes something like
any part of the body NOT the hands or feet
by One.Cool.Customer on Nov 29, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Like John Madden said
One shin equals two butt cheeks.
Thing is, I know what I saw on that play; but I can’t imagine someone’s foot being flat on the ground(?) and that same shin being down. Maybe the rise in the middle of the field made it look like the shin was down? Of course, the rules regarding replay do say “visual evidence”, so that’s what you go by.
his foot wasn't flat tho
his whole foot was turned sideways so the bottom was off the ground and the ankle and lower shin were touching.
Do any of you ever read the NFL boards beneath the games on NFL.com...
Makes me appreciate the intelligent posters here.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 4:14 PM CST reply actions
Man...
Minnesota is really good.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 4:16 PM CST reply actions
or chicago is really bad
Their QB is not all he is cracked up to be and their defense is decimated by injuries, not to mention their Oline.
Question about the Sunday Night Game
Is Jeff Garcia injured? If not it seems like the Steelers should’ve signed him instead of playing Dennis Dixon
favre is playing lights out
will it last is what i wonder.
and cutler sucks
man, im glad we didnt pull the trigger on that one.
he's an idiot....
the worst attitude I’ ve ever seen from a player….even worse coming from a QB.
Hey I will fanshot this but Sheli has a new injury.
http://www.bigblueview.com/2009/11/29/1177797/breaking-news-eli-has-stress#comments
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
is there a team with as long an injury history as the giants?
in the last 5 years, 3 seasons have been derailed by ridiculous amounts of injuries and in 1 more, plax shot himself. Their one year without 3+ major injuries, they won the superbowl.
Perhaps....
Subway is bad for the bones…
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
vince young
attempting another GW fourth quarter drive. He seriously has like 9 in 24 starts or something.
including one of the more embarassing losses in giants history
when he lead them back from down 21-0 a few years ago. That was pretty awesome.
WOW!!
Vince Young is…unstoppable.
99 yard drive for a game winning score.
Britt seemed to come out of nowhere to catch that ball.
Not that i means much, but we take over the 3 seed.
the 3 is what I want
You get a home game to open the playoffs;
you stay away from Arizona early. They scare me more than the Vikings or Saints. They have a good defense.
I thought the Vikes have a pretty good D...
Are you basing this on matchups?
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
good point
I was thinking 3 vs 4 is irrelevant cause we wouldn’t see them till the nfc championship anyway and its impossible to determine which WC we’d be if thats the case, but it also means Arizona is unlikely to get that 2 seed. Which is big.
If our offense can get rolling, this conference will have 4 solid very good teams at the top.
I don't ever know if Vince Young will ever be what he was in college...
but even if you don’t like him, that’s ridiculously clutch.
Good job VY.
by The Immortal Iron Fist AKA AFB on Nov 29, 2009 6:22 PM CST reply actions
i doubted it for a while
but hes really playing well. Hes not looking to run first, he looks like a much more complete qb than vick ever was…but its still early.
And man..once the game enters the fourth quarter, he turns it on.
I think he can be a guy like Ben or McNabb, qbs who (generally) aren’t extremely accurate but can buy time with their feet/big bodies and make plays when they’re needed to win games.

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