MNF Open Thread
by Dave Halprin on Nov 30, 2009 7:15 PM CST
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PrintNow this is a Monday night game definitely worth watching. The Patriots travel south to meet the undefeated Saints.
This is an open thread for game chat.
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I can't help but root for Brees...
kid’s a Texan, right out of Austin. Undersized and overlooked his whole career, and now he may be the best. Now Reggie Bush and Jeremy Shockey…..those two can go step in front of a bus.
F*** the aints
I like Brees and allN and wish would have pounced on him when NO did, but I am sick of all these ppl at my work talking weird and talking crap about their aints being the greatest thing since sliced bread. Eff the aints, I have ONE team and that is the cowboys, and it is better for them that the aints lose so I go for belicheat and his unlikeable team.
by TONYINCC on Nov 30, 2009 7:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Just need Brady to stay under 22 FF points
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
anyone have a link?
It's not that I'm saying we're due a playoff win, but I didn't have my license to drive when we won our last one...
a link to MNF?
are you in the space shuttle?
I was hoping
he was in the space shuttle. I want to know what it’s like.
how does someone get that wide open?
By being guarded by #31 that’s how.
Did you see the look of confusion on his face?
Is it me or...
is the Saint’s defense actually their offense? When they score so easily and often I think opposing offenses press a little too much to keep pace. Sorta like NE did to everyone in the 07 season. Their defense shouldn’t scare anyone especially their linebackers & secondary. McKenzie is the best guy in the back 7. As I stated in a post last week, I believe we will move the ball on these guys and score, a lot.
brees = manning
These two freaks are crazy good. The game to them is sooo slooooow. They both help draw up the offense… and I mean all of it… Xs and Os, personnel packages… everything.
It’s unfair.
MVP – Brees? Manning? Favre? Chris Johnson?
not to irritate the
in-house Romo-maniac, but how good would Miles Austin be on the Saints? You have to believe he’s faster than Meachem, Colston and Henderson.
Not henderson or Meachem
Austin is fast but not super fast.
Austin is good because he is not just tall (about 6’2.5) and fast but because he is also quick for his size and is very strong.
Brady looks rattled
the offensive line is lunging, grabbing, and falling everywhere just to hold back 3 and 4 man rushes… i wouldn’t be surprised to see Brady get hurt.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
lol stanback in at wr
youre welcome new england
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
So....
The game against NO is going to be fun.
Defending Big D: A Dallas Stars blog on SBN: easy to use, free to join.
Im scared of that rush....
can we be patient and run on them like NE did at the beginning? Can our defense keep them out of the end zone?
protecting romo will be important
right now they are feasting on pressuring brady and forcing him to throw it before wr’s are open. a few near int’s on that last drive
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
Why exactly?
We will run on this team early and often. That will keep the beasts at bay and keep the ball in TRs hands not DB. Again, their offense is their defense.
we'll....the run will work but it'll have to yield TD's......
We will not hold these guys to under 21 I believe
theyre d looks bad
equally poor is their o-line.
"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."
-Ari Gold
he shouldve told payton not to challenge.....
isnt that like felix’s fumble that couldn’t be challenged because it was the recovery of a fumble or something like that?
LOL
It’s half-way through the 3rd quarter and Brees is averaging 20 yards per attempt.
20 yards per attempt.
20
madness
You're...
Such an exaggerator. He’s only averaging 19.9. I must say I’m disappointed in your hyperbole :)
The Saints are terrifying
I can’t believe we play this team in a few weeks :(
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: not 11-5 :(
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25
and miss a trip to NOLA? No way!
I love New Orleans, I always have a good time there :D
I still believe in Romo.
Wait...was this a knock towards me? lol
Even if it was…the Saints still scare me.
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: not 11-5 :(
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25
McKenzie is playing out of his mind
hard to believe that guy was out of football last year. What a ball hawk.
Drinking the Blue Kool-Aid since 1980. "Ohhhhhh yeeeaaaaahhhh!"
He played for the saints last year and plated well.
He blew out his knee at the end of the year and they released him because of his salary and the fact he wouldn’t be ready until this late in the season.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 30, 2009 10:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
for those who knock Jason Garrett for being a big play guy
the Saints have run just 36 plays and there are only 10 minutes left in the game.
They have almost 450 yards of total offense.
That’s over 12 yards a snap, with LOTS of big plays thrown in.
The scoreboard could melt if the Dallas o-line holds up in N.O.
Prior to this game they had 18 rushing TDs and 22 passing.
56% of their scores came throwing. They also run a balanced offense even when they average 20 a pop throwing.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 30, 2009 11:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Um big plays are nice, and that is not our argument
We are saying you need to run the ball more than 11 times a game (or use Felix more than 0 times a game), and for all their big plays they have ran the ball 21 times so far.
Plus few teams can do what the Saints can do.
I have no problem with the game plan in Oakland
I have a problem when Garrett gets away from the run and gets too pass happy. Big plays are great, but you still have to run the ball.
Who stop us?
Answer: JasonGarrett
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 30, 2009 11:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Stupid penalties and lack of focus stop us.
WTF is Garret going to call on 3rd and 15? A draw to Felix? Hell no, he is going to pass. The only team that can stop the Dallas Cowboys is the Dallas Cowboys. Jason Garret can only tell the players what to do. If they can’t get it through their thick skulls and perform then no offensive coordinator in the league can make them.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
I treat you with a certain amount of intellegence, do the same for me.
Of course we are going to pass on 3rd and long, we are going to throw more than we run but don’t abandon the run and ecspeciallywhen the passing game is sucking.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Dec 1, 2009 8:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry to put you in the camp of mindless coach bashers.
I over reacted and hope you will accept my apology.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
you make it sound like that happens every week
hardly the case.
by Rafael Vela on Nov 30, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
It is true that we don't run the ball 10 times a game every week
but I’m not just talking on the level of whole games. I’m talking about individual plays, where Garrett will throw the ball when you should obviously run it. There is value in catching the other team by surprise, but if you look at percentages running it on the goal line yields better success than throwing it.
Moreover we are 18th in the league in attempts. How does that make since when we have one of the best runningback tandems in the league. Not to mention their was that long stretch of games where are receivers weren’t doing squat.
I disagree
Running the ball inside the 10 requires a certain mentality by the OL which I’m not sure we have, especially without Colombo.
Just out of curiosity, which situations are your referring as obvious running downs?
In Romo we Trust
Think the secret might be to find a way to keep their damn offense off the field
or somehow disrupt their rhythm.
no, you need the power to outscore them
Carolina ran like made on them and lost because they could not sustain scoring.
Dallas can run but nobody can play keep away from them for 60 minutes.
by Rafael Vela on Nov 30, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
You make it seem like you are less likely to score if you run the ball
Each team still has the same number of drives as the other team in a game if I am not mistaken. But one has to be efficient.
The only time that you should abandon the run for the pass is when they get far ahead. As long as you are scoring every time you have the ball – whether you take 2 minutes or 7 minutes to score – it shouldn’t matter.
No, this team has been a down the field offense the last three years
I have no problems with it. This isn’t the ‘90s Cowboys. They don’t power run like those guys, and they commit too many penalties.
This same bunch went powerball on the Giants in the ’07 playoffs. How did that turn out?
This o-line isn’t a powerball bunch. Yeah, it’s good to run, but they are going to attack throwing the ball — and they should.
by Rafael Vela on Nov 30, 2009 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
We have shown the ability to be a great run team, and to be blunt we have to if we are going to win
Saints have Shockey, Henderson, Meachem, and Colston. We have Austin and Witten. That is it. They win if it comes down to who is going to put up more yards through the air.
absolutely not true at all
We have never shown the ability to be a great run team and I if Romo gets the time Brees gets, he can slice up their secondary much worse than Brees will slice up ours.
In Romo we Trust
We haven't?
At the beginning of the year we were averaging close to 200 yards per game rushing. Right Terry…
that doesn't mean we can run whenever we want
those runs were the result of catching the opposing defense off guard with brilliant play calling by Garrett. ;)
In Romo we Trust
Catching them off guard? Seriously?
You can’t run 200 yards in a game without the opposing defense starting to take notice of your run game much earlier on.
if they play their safeties
25 yards back and concentrate on stopping the pass, you can.
In Romo we Trust
Your right but at one point late in the game they ran 21 times and threw 22.
They don’t abandon the run EVEN when they throw that well.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 30, 2009 10:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
RAF, they throw this great yet they don't stop running the ball.
At one point late in the game they had21 runs and 22 passes.
Sorry if this is a repeat I’m on my iPhone and I didn’t see my other responds.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 30, 2009 10:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Remember one thing
the Patriots are 1-4 on the road this year. That 1 came at Tampa.
People got all crazy about them when they beat Tennessee 59-0 but they’ve been weaklings on the road this year.
by Rafael Vela on Nov 30, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
the Jets, Broncos, Colts and now Saints have smacked them on the road
they’ve beaten Atlanta and Baltimore at home.
Not awful, but not that impressive.
by Rafael Vela on Nov 30, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
true,
but if you’re legit, you should have a win in there, if not more
by Rafael Vela on Nov 30, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
I'm gonna call it right now
Are we watching the Saints Super Bowl tonight? How similar is this game to the Dall-GB game in ’07?
I’m just saying . . .
by Perry the Platypus on Nov 30, 2009 10:13 PM CST reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
Is a collapse in the making after tonight?
’twould make things verrrrry convenient for Los Cowboys :D
2009 Dallas Cowboys: 10-6
2009 New York Jets: not 11-5 :(
2009-2010 Dallas Mavericks: 57-25
How could they possibly play . . .
a better game than the one we’re seeing tonight?
by Perry the Platypus on Nov 30, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
So...
Is there any way we can beat the Saints? I mean, seriously?
These guys are amazing. I knew it already, but…. Wow. Just wow.
I don't know
I believe we are a very good football team, but if these guys are playing like this against us, we don’t stand a chance.
I guess I am forgetting
That these guys had close ones with Miami and St Louis…. But holy hell they look great tonight.
These guys wont play like this against us
because our defense is much better than the Pats D.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 30, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Unh.... Depends on what you mean by better?
Better run D? Yeah. Their passing D is statistically better than ours…. Add to that fact our issues with turnovers (In that we don’t really get them) and it’s kind of a wash.
And the Saints haven’t really been running the ball a ton this game. All the monster plays are via the pass.
Nope
we are better
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 30, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Most important stat
scoring D says were better
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 30, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, they were ahead of us going into tonight.
Obviously they won’t be now, after running into that buzz saw. But going into this game, their scoring defense was at 16.4/game compared to our 16.5/game. And the Saints ate them up.
I’ll admit it, the Saints are scary.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 30, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
Atlanta had the momentum on NO in the late third to early fourth quarter of their game
One of NO’’s TD’s in that game came off a Pick 6 when the linebacker had clearly interfered with the Atlanta receiver.
Dallas had effectively controlled Atlanta through four quarters the week before.
I’m feeling really good about our chances, even after watching this game. The key will be preassuring Brees up the middle. I think our corners can keep everything in front of them long enough for Ware, Ratliff, and Spencer to get in Brees face.
by LDVFootball on Nov 30, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
I think there's a chance...
But not if the Saints are anywhere near to this level. We would have to completely bottle up Brees, and I don’t really know that we can do that.
Darren Sharper has a switch inside his jersey thet briefly changes his uniform appearance
to that of the team he is playing.
lol...totally!
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
by Aaron Novinger on Dec 1, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
I want the Saints to remain undefeated
the cowboys need to prove themselves. If they want to do anything in the playoffs, they need to play big against teams like the soon-to-be 11-0 Saints.
I still believe in Romo.
Tom and Tiger
what do Tom brady and tiger woods have in common? they both are highly paid, married to super models, and crashed and burned this week
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
by LucyFur3d on Nov 30, 2009 10:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
saints are scary
I love the Boys, but I am scared to play these Saints
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
by LucyFur3d on Nov 30, 2009 10:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
the Cowboys get paychecks too Lucy
by alanTdot. on Nov 30, 2009 11:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
scared?
How do you expect this team to get anywhere fearing opponents?
I guess that's my point
not to be a doomsayer – again I am born and raised and will die a cowboys fan – but I don’t see us beating this team – I hope I am wrong, but I just don’t see it happening
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
by LucyFur3d on Nov 30, 2009 10:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Mark my words....
We will win the game…
by LDVFootball on Nov 30, 2009 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
our secondary
better show up in a HUGE way or we are milktoast
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
by LucyFur3d on Nov 30, 2009 10:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
well
doesnt it seem likely we are going to get 2 shots at N.O. in N.O.? They are going to have home field advantage throughout the playoffs. so the likelihood is, if we make it as far as we all hope we do, we’ll be traveling down to N.O. sometime late in the playoffs.
personally, i think it makes more sense to get slobberknocked in 2 weeks, fall off their radar, and surprise them in late january.
to me, if we upset them at home in 2 weeks, it’ll be almost inconceivable that we would have a chance to beat them again, at their place, in late january. inconceivable. can anyone here really imagine themselves sitting on their barcalounger in february saying, yeah, that’s right, we beat N.O. twice in N.O. in the span of 6 weeks?
Avatar trailer
did anyone else notice the Avatar movie trailer , where they say it’s the greatest adventure ever, yet some army ? general says ‘we aren’t in Kansas anymore’ – does the greatest adventure ever really have to rip one of the most re-used lines ever??
Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him. - Bruce Lee
by LucyFur3d on Nov 30, 2009 10:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Run the ball, score on long drives
and limit the big play.
that is how someone will beat the saints in the playoffs.
just like atlanta did to the 14-2 vikings in an NFC CS game.
teams are going to have to keep the saints offense on the sideline, and it looks like they can be run on.
BTW, dont turn it over as the pats did.
It was worse...
At least Cutler forces his throws into traffic….
I think Brady’s elbow gave out trying to throw across his body.
I wanted to post this before the game but couldn't get recepption
I was wondering if we should use RW like they use Colston. Half of his game is on or outside the numbers. Drew seems to throw him high back shoulder throws. He doesn’t get drilled because the corner isn’t in a hitting postion and it’s really a safe throw that with Colstons size he can easily go over anyone else to catch the pass. RW can thrive with his ability to go up high and again with the backshoulder pass he is more times than not protected from the big hit.
KICK ASS every day!!!
by squidlo97 on Nov 30, 2009 11:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I wanted to post this earlier...
and they just mentioned it on TV. Is it just me, or did it piss you off when the Pats pulled their offensive starters with over 5 min left in the game? Maybe I just really hate the Patriots (which I do), but it seemed like a bitchy move.
Happily supporting non-championship teams and self-medicating since 1996.
sounds like
Belicheat to do something like that, maybe that was his way of getting the saints to stop scoring, “maybe if I take my starters out, they will call the dogs off”
It was a chickenshi* move
by TONYINCC on Nov 30, 2009 11:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He didn't want his players injured during meaningless snaps.
Smart move.
The Knights season may have just ended, but the Cowboys year is just begining!
by aussie_cowboy on Nov 30, 2009 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
Classic Bellicheat
Guy is a real dick. Why you want to pull your starters with 4 plus min left? They kinda still had a chance,slim but its there. Excuse my language but that was a little bitch move
no excuse for your language
you’re classless. Re-read your post.
Sorry Geez
Next time I will try to be nicer like you. This is a great classy blog site but i was writing because I cant stand that p#@%$. Is that better joey?
by sandmanschevy on Nov 30, 2009 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
no u said it right the first time - the site generally frowns on profanity, but i've seen people on here write a lot worse than what u said - wtf is the "you're classless" stuff about anyway...cuz the guy said d*ck??? i hope that was just sarcasm
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Nov 30, 2009 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
+1
I don’t know why the classless comment was necessary, but some ppl have hot spots, where they get ultra sensitive. At least it was about football, and not some other issues that are not appropriate. Btb monitors the blog well enough, and when they deem repremanding someone, then fine, but we should leave it to them. I think he was stating his opinion, then was personally attacked for no reason but THATS MY OPINION.
by TONYINCC on Nov 30, 2009 11:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Could be wrong
but didnt 2zzs get dinged for language on here – his post may have been a sarcastic zinger aimed at management.
Maybe Joey
Has a Bellicheat poster in his bedroom. And joey I am kinda classy I just brought new tires for my classic 69 Chevy P/U the one with the Cowboy Helmet on the back window, If you see me riding around before a game stop me and we will drink some brewskis joey ok Pal?
by sandmanschevy on Dec 1, 2009 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
I agree.
He runs the score up on other teams but can’t take it when he’s getting his ass beat.
by UCIrvine kings fan on Nov 30, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
SSSHHH
Dont say ass-joey might say something
by sandmanschevy on Nov 30, 2009 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
dont let it upset
You, then the whole thread will be about that kind of stuff, and grizz will have to put out a reminder of "blog etiquette.
by TONYINCC on Dec 1, 2009 12:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Joey doesn't allow you to criticize Belichek
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Use a similar defensive game plan to the one we used against the Eagles, run the ball early, and limit the turnovers
That is how you beat the Saints
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Yep Cowboyfan
We have the beef up front that is a excellent game plan, You reading this JG?
by sandmanschevy on Dec 1, 2009 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
more likely scenario
in all likelihood, we are going to get absolutely throttled in N.O. in 2 weeks, and what’ll happen is, we’ll start with a heavy dose of runs, find ourselves behind 37-0 after the first quarter, start to play catch up through the air, nearly come all the way back, still lose, and too many on here will say that by starting out running we never gave ourselves a chance in what was obviously going to be a track meet.
do i hope the above happens? of course not. It merely seems likely.
also we might
Want to rattle brees and plant him on his a** quite a bit, every qb looks average when they get sacked a few times and consistently don’t have time.
by TONYINCC on Dec 1, 2009 12:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking that while watching the game..
How would this guy (Brees) do if he had the slobber knocked out of him a few times? Not quite as well I bet.
can u just imagine the hype if we're 10-3 and they're 13-0 a few weeks from now
by Loozeeana_Cowboy on Dec 1, 2009 12:22 AM CST reply actions
kinda like the hype
of the Pats being 7-3 and the Saints being 10-0
The Saints played as though there wasn’t even another team on the field. I understand believing in your team and always believing you CAN win every game…but I don’t know how you watch this game and feel very confident.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
I'm not confident at all...
I have seen nothing from the Cowboys this entire season that tells me they’re going to be beat the Saints in New Orleans. The Saints will line up in a plethora of formations and run an overabundance plays while the Cowboys will line up in the shotgun 80% of the time. I kid Jason Garrett, I kid…
But in all seriousness I would be very surprised if the Cowboys pull off that upset in a few weeks (unless the Saints suffer an unfortunate injury or two). In the mean time I’m more worried about this weeks’ game with Giants. Nothing irks me more than getting swept in the division; especially the Giants whom I hate more than anyone. If the Cowboys lose to them this Sunday I’ll be wearing my "who farted" face all next week.
The 2009 Dallas Cowboys: Talk to me in December.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
If we take of business the next few weeks, beating the Saints won't be necessary
and it will be fun and interesting to see how we match up against them.
In Romo we Trust
You have to play one game at a time.
Take care of the team in front of you and worry about the Saints in 3 weeks. A lot of things can happen in 3 weeks worry about that bridge when we get there.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
Lets see
Both our starting cb’s are out this week.One of our best recievers is out.Reggie Bush is hurt.Your coach doesnt even come close to the talent of Sean Payton.Our offensive line is the best in the nfl.And we put 48 points on the Giants and the Eagles
And we’re playing in New Orleans keep trying to talk yourself into thinking your better then us.We’ll see you in a few weeks
GEAUX SAINTS
You never can tell. One good hurricane and you will play the rest of the season in a toilet bowl.
"Help, it's hot and dark in here and someone is laughing." Taco Bell
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