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The VRR: Cowboys (5-2) @ Eagles (5-2)

How do you defend the hottest receiving threat in the NFC East? Both the Dallas and the Philadelphia defenses could be asking themselves this very question all the way up to the Cowboys @ Eagles matchup on Sunday Night Football.

It could be tough for us, fans, to relax and watch the day games without twiddling our thumbs in anxiety over such thoughts as, "will Miles Austin's touchdown streak continue?" or "can the secondary stop DeSean Jackson?" Certainly, there are many other stories to the game to focus on, but lately it has been the continued emergence of these two weapons that has greatly increased the threat of these teams' respective offenses.

When that first ball kicks off, though, we will forget this week's headlines and get caught up in the hard-hitting, well-balanced contest that this should turn out to be. Playing physically has helped put the Cowboys where they are today. Continuing to do so could help produce on the scoreboard, and better yet, lead to a 6-2 record come Monday.

Can the physical play of Mike Jenkins stop DeSean Jackson? Eagles' safety Quintin Demps says, "no".

"Just be physical," Jenkins said Wednesday. "Go out and hit them in the mouth."

If that means playing press coverage, Jenkins might want to re-think that stance, Philadelphia safety Quintin Demps suggested in a phone interview.

"I've never seen a guy that fast and quick at the same time," Demps, a Roosevelt graduate, said of Jackson. "And he's smart. He knows how to play off of leverage and get off press coverage."

More Cowboys @ Eagles after the jump.

Star-divide

If Miles Austin and DeSean Jackson get voted into the Pro Bowl, it would be the first time a WR from both teams make it to Hawaii since the early 90s.

Now our guy Adam Schefter has unearthed the interesting nugget that a Cowboys and Eagles wide receiver haven't gone to the Pro Bowl in the same season since Michael Irvin and the immortal Fred Barnett both made it in 1992. Before that, you have to go all the way back to Tony Hill and Mike Quick.

Former Dallas defensive coordinator, Brian Stewart, may have not have much insight to offer Andy Reid in regards to Wade Phillips' defense.

Philadelphia coach Andy Reid tried to downplay the importance of having former Cowboys defensive coordinator Brian Stewart on his staff. Reid said whatever insight Stewart offers in advance of Sunday's game would be offset by coach Wade Phillips' ability to be unpredictable with his defense.

"Wade is a pretty creative guy," Reid said. "We have talked to ... [Stewart], but at the same time I know they've made changes."

Since taking over the Cowboys, Phillips is 2-2 against Reid. For his career as a head coach and defensive coordinator, Phillips is 4-5 against Reid.

Roy Williams had two of his best games in Philadelphia.

Going to Philadelphia could rouse Roy Williams from his funk. With Detroit, he had nine catches for 135 yards and two touchdowns at Philadelphia in 2004 and nine catches for a career-high 204 yards and one touchdown in 2007.

S Brian Dawkins is a tough presence to replace in the Philly secondary.

The Eagles have used a three-man rotation his place: rookie Macho Harris, Sean Jones and Quintin Demps. Harris started the first six games, but Jones replaced him for last week's win over the New York Giants. The Eagles have not committed to a starter against the Cowboys.

LB Chris Gocong is doubtful, but Brian Westbrook will be ready.

In other injury news, running back Brian Westbrook was held out of practice on Friday after a strong two days of practice by Reid, but he is expected to play and contribute in a significant manner on Sunday night against the Dallas Cowboys.

Wide receiver Kevin Curtis is the only player listed as out.

Rookie seventh-round pick Moise Fokou will start as the strongside linebacker if Gocong is unable to go. Coach Reid said he had plenty of confidence in Fokou to get the job done.

"He's worked hard," Reid said of Fokou. "Even when Chris was healthy, he worked in there during practice."

Cowboys @ Eagles injury report, courtesy of philadelphiaeagles.com.

CuJo and K.O. to play against the Eagles?

Based on the special teams practices all week, it appears linebacker Curtis Johnson and wide receiver Kevin Ogletree will both be in uniform for Sunday’s game in Philadelphia.

Marion Barber's quad is inching closer to being at full strength.

It could take up to 10 weeks for Barber to be 100 percent, according to the Cowboys. But Wade Phillips said Barber is getting better every week and starting to show some of that old explosiveness.

"He’s got a little more juice," Phillips said. "It’s an injury that you lose strength. It’s not something where you’re going to get injured again. He lost some power in one leg. He could play, and I thought he had his best game last week. He looked good today. I think more and more we’ll see the Marion Barber that we know and love."

Barber blogged about getting ready for the Eagles on his website.

My left thumb is still a little bit jammed from our game in Kansas City. I jammed it pretty good during pass protection but it's alright now. It doesn't affect my ability to carry the ball or anything.

Miles Austin has been coming up big for us recently and it's no surprise to anyone on the team. He's been balling out there and he's gonna continue to do so. We have a lot of guys who can produce and it's a great feeling. We have three guys in the backfield who are all dangerous too. That's a big plus for us because we work really well together. Nobody worries about who gets the touches, we all just want to win. There's no jealousy.

Stephen Bowen's hard work and athleticism are really starting to show this season.

Bowen, who carries 306 pounds on a 6-foot-5 frame, started playing football when he was 7. He said his height was average until the ninth grade, when he had a growth spurt that continued until he was big enough to move from linebacker to defensive line at Hofstra.

Bowen also played running back in high school. As a senior, he amassed 565 yards of total offense and scored four touchdowns.

"A lot of guys think I have good feet, and it's because I wasn't always big," Bowen said.

Bowen's athleticism was on display when he batted down Hasselbeck's pass on third-and-10 from the Dallas 25-yard line during Seattle's opening possession. Had the ball found its way to running back Justin Forsett, he likely would have scored on a perfectly set up middle screen. Instead, the Seahawks had to settle for a field goal.

With his impressive leg strength, David Buehler will reassess what his touchback goals are for this season.

No other team has more than 13 touchbacks. Buehler, who came into the season, with the goal of leading the NFL in the category said it's time to revise his goal.

"Instead of leading the league in touchbacks," Buehler said, "I can try and push past everybody and be in a league of my own."

The series history between these two clubs:

The Cowboys hold a 53-43 advantage in their all-time regular season series with the Eagles, including a conventional split of last year's home-and-home. Dallas won a 41-37 home thriller when the teams met in Week 2 of last season, but as previously mentioned, were drilled by a 44-6 count with a playoff berth on the line at Lincoln Financial Field in Week 17. Dallas last won in Philly in 2007, coming up a 38-17 winner in a primetime game there.

In addition to their regular season advantage, the Cowboys have a 2-1 edge in the postseason series. The Eagles were 20-7 winners in the 1980 NFC Championship, while Dallas won NFC Divisional Playoff games over Philadelphia following the 1992 and 1995 seasons.

Eagles head coach Andy Reid has a career record of 14-6 against the Cowboys. Dallas' Wade Phillips is 3-2 all-time against both Philadelphia and Reid all- time, with the first of those wins coming in the form of a 26-0 rout for Phillips' Bills over the Eagles in 1999.

Raf breaks down the key matchups in his post here.

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I think we're really goin' to value Buehler's presence in this game...

…ya can’t run it back if you can’t get the ball. Also, I have a feeling the Eagles’ secondary will be heavily keying on Miles & Witten, leaving RW for some good 1v1… I hope he’s on point this game.. we’ll see what the scenario is when it gets that time.

Superbowl, or BUST.

by .FRoST.USAF on Nov 6, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

“Just be physical,” Jenkins said Wednesday. “Go out and hit them in the mouth.”

Really, Mike? Kinda like this….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW7lz8x2I-0

by JimmyK on Nov 6, 2009 2:27 PM CST reply actions  

Buehler ...

anyone wanna say he was a bad draft choice now? Stupid media.

by Dub_TC on Nov 6, 2009 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

I laughed at that pick too

I’ll admit I was wrong. It turns out Buehler (a guy that does nothing more than kick off) might be the best player from this Cowboys draft class. So uh… congrats on that. :)

by JimmyK on Nov 6, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/2009/11/cowboys-prewind.html

This isn’t a shit talking trap, it’s a Cowboy’s video analysis done by an Eagles fan. He’s extremely objective and really knows his football.

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by southjersey89 on Nov 6, 2009 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

Good stuff

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Nov 6, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Great review, A-Ron

Jackson and Westbrook are a handful and I’m betting that Reid runs at Dallas much more than most poeple expect.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Nov 6, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

Nice link to the online game, Aaron

I’m gonna check it just to get the online only stuff, but I’ll still be watching on the 51 inch in hi def.

There IS something to what Jenkins had to say. Jam Jackson at the LOS. I’m not saying that will shut him down, but it will slow him down. I’d really like to see what Jenkins could do on Jackson all night long. (that didn’t sound right.)

Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"

by White Wolf on Nov 6, 2009 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

Jam Jackson

That’d be a cool name for a bluesy Jackson5 cover band.

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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 6, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd rather see him become a jar of preserves after Jenkins finishes with him

Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "where the heck is the ceiling?"

by White Wolf on Nov 6, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Go to pissing green blog site and read what John Harbaugh said about Dallas.

“Dallas stands for everything thats wrong with the NFL” WTF has this jerk ever done. Hell his best LB committed murder. I guess that whats right about the NFL. The stupid SOB needs to worry about his on team. They’re 4/3 and in third place and will be sitting home watching the playoffs.

Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.

by DIRE WOLF on Nov 6, 2009 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

Here's a

link

Harbaugh shows himself as classless for writing it. He’s Ed Werder in Raven’s togs – say whatever he can about a popular team so he can generate buzz.

Buzz buzz John, you’re a jerk.

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by dunkman on Nov 6, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

The Eagles have proven they're great like

the Vikings in 60s and early70s and the Bills in the late 80s and early 90s. Never the bride always the brides maid. I wonder where they display thier SB trophies. O yeah they don’t have any. Well maybe Jerry can take a picture of the Cowboys five SB trophies and send it to Philly so they will know what they look like.

Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.

by DIRE WOLF on Nov 6, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you really disagree with the thrust of the quote?

“Why is that? Because what Andy Reid and his program stand for is the opposite of what the Cowboys stand for. The Cowboys are a star system. It’s all about building around individuals first and collecting talent, collecting great players. Andy has always been about building a team. And over the long haul, it’s a team sport, and one of the greatest examples of that is what’s happened with the Eagles and the Cowboys over the last 10 years. The Cowboys stand for everything that’s wrong with the NFL.”

That was Jerry’s M.O. for awhile, collecting stars, and he thankfully appears to have stopped doing that. Yeah, Harbaugh went over the top in saying that the Cowboys are what is wrong with the NFL, but his criticism of the contrasting styles is spot on.

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Nov 6, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

that makes no sense because don't you build teams with talent?

You think Reid is building his team with scrub players??

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 6, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Terry, as a guy who has been arguing that players don't win or lose games, teams do, I know that you understand this point and are arguing for the sake of arguing

Jerry, during his awful years as GM, was always trying to make the big splash by signing name players and wheeling and dealing instead of doing the hard and unglamorous work of building a team by finding players that work together and complement each other..

Given the relative success of the two fracnhises over the past 10 to 12 years, I don’t think anyone can seriously argue that Reid’s method has not been more successful

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Nov 6, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

thats not true

I never said players don’t win or lose games, quite the contrary, I’ve always argued that.

In my mind the players comprise the team so it’s the same thing really.

I’m also not arguing that Jerry hasn’t made mistakes by signing big name FAs because he has, but my point is that both teams attempt to collect talent, some just do it differently than others.

BTW, I think Jerry is getting away from signing big name FAs if this is any indication, but some years he can’t help himself.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 6, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

never said players don’t win or lose games, quite the contrary, I’ve always argued that.

You have not always argued that. You have argued that teams win or lose games whenever anyone writes that “Romo has never won a playoff game.”

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Nov 6, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

What the hell has Harbaugh ever done.

In three years he’ll be an asst. coach for one of his buddies in the NFL if he’s lucky.

Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.

by DIRE WOLF on Nov 6, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, Harbaugh's team won more playoff games in his first year than Jerry's team has won in thirteen

Also, Harbaugh’s team embarrased Jerry’s team in the final game in Texas Stadium.

But other than that, nothing

Lifetime Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey

by Seanrude on Nov 6, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

In his rookie season as a head coach last year, he took a 5-11 team to the AFC title game. Is that good enough?

by JimmyK on Nov 6, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no issue with

saying that Eagles run a franchise the way Harbaugh thinks franchises ought to be run. I personally think the Eagles are a very good franchise. The part that is is classless and jerky is:

Dallas stands for everything thats wrong with the NFL

It’s (a) not true and (b) says more about the pin-head who wrote it than the subject of the quote.

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by dunkman on Nov 6, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

To put this in perspective..

Harbaughs’ opinion is just as relevant as whatever bowel movement he had this morning. It has the same scent, and it makes just as much sense.

by Benthere on Nov 6, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

The Eagles and Cowboys over the last 10 years............

The last 3 years they are 3 and 3. Since the BP era they are 8-6. Since 2005, 4 and 4. The difference is that the Eagles have had a good QB the last 10 years and we have had a good QB the last 3.
The way teams go though players, 3-4 years is a better indication of whats going on in the series.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Nov 6, 2009 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn good points, squid.

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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 6, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, I have been getting angry with won-loss of the last 10 years.

Most of those victories came from some of our darkest days as a franchise and the Eagles very best days. I believe Flo is the only surviver from those early years.

The eagle fans throw the 44-6 in our face and rightly so but all they did was hold serve. We beat them last year at our house.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Nov 6, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

And it was us and them against us in that 44-6.

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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 6, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't really disagree with that quote

although it fits Dan Snyder and the Redskins more than Jones and the Cowboys. No wonder the Eagles and Giants have been so successful in the NFC East the last decade…

by DavidH22 on Nov 6, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

no kidding

it fits the Redskins more than the Boys.

by Dub_TC on Nov 6, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

This isn't a franchise issue..

It’s a GM and player personnel issue.

Is Reid a better personnel guy than Jerry? Absolutely he his. Unfortunately for a stretch Jerry was sold on bringing people in like Rocket, Testaverde, Bledsoe, Leaf.

Thankfully Jerry has recently hired better personnel guys like Tuna and Wade ( a severely under valued quality of Wade) and let them have a big stake in drafts.

This isn’t the MLB where a farm system allows some teams to rely on young talent. It is a GM league. The Cowboys don’t show everything that is wrong with the NFL. Jerry for a spell showed what’s wrong with a team trying to buy talent as opposed to being able to find it outside of the first round of the draft. He showed that hiring big names doesn’t make you a great GM.

 Harbaugh is a putz for making this statement.

Wade Phillips has never won a playoff game as a head coach..he has lost 4 home playoff games.
His longest tenure as head coach was 3 years.
Only once did his record as a HC improve from one year to the next (by 1 game)

Wade Phillips for DC

by SDTrueblue on Nov 6, 2009 9:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

it's

just one man’s opinion …. nothing to get mad at.

by Dub_TC on Nov 6, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard he thought his sh!t doesn't stink.

But his opinion sure does

Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.

by DIRE WOLF on Nov 6, 2009 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I did see that story earlier and wondered why Mosely broke that story out now.

The book was released early last month; so, being ESPN’s NFC East blogger, I imagine he’s been saving that quote in his backpocket for this week—to lead into the Cowboys/Eagles game.

Perhaps he didn’t read the book yet, or has yet to but someone pointed the Harbaugh comments out to him.

Personally, I can see how some (especially other NFCEast coaches, fans, etc.) may feel that a quote like that represents Cowboys’ teams of the past, but it in no way correlates with the direction this team is heading nor the road it has been taking.

Thanks for stereotyping an entire franchise, Hairball!

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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 6, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

To me the point is he's been a head coach for one year.

He doesn’t have any skins on the wall. His team is in 3rd place one game over 500. Who is he to talk smack about any team in the NFL.

Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.

by DIRE WOLF on Nov 6, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

The other end of the Eagles spectrum is how they treat players

They have a long history of casting off players that have given them the best years of their career. How many players have the Eagles dumped? The Cowboys have a rich history of allowing their great players to retire as Cowboys. They’ve also encouraged them to retire or go elsewhere on occasion, but it’s a pattern for the Eagles. The Eagles are a cheap franchise. They would rather say goodbye to their best all-time players, than give them a contract they have earned.

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by White Wolf on Nov 6, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm

Interestng perspectives…

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by dunkman on Nov 6, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I have always thought Jerry went after stars when he felt

we were in a position to contend for a SB.
Stars that we have gotten off the top of my head,
Haley (won 3 SBs here)
Dieon Sanders (1 SB)
Galloway (JJ thought with Aikman and Emmitt we might squeeze in 1 more SB)
T.O. (was extremely productive for us and Andy Reid made same gamble, 1 playoff apperances)
Roy Williams ( I think JJ saw the wheels coming off of the TO train and jumped, early returns not good but time to turn it around.)

There were other FA signings such as Drew Bledsoe (but I didnt think of him as a star but rather a veteran QB holding the rains til Romo was ready) and Brookings Marcellus Riley ect…. but I didnt think those were star player signings but rather trying to squeeze another couple of years out of a good veteran.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Nov 6, 2009 4:04 PM CST reply actions  

But he hasn't done anything like the rest of the players you list.

I think Jerry would like a do over on RW

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by DIRE WOLF on Nov 6, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Your guess is as good as mine.

What that asshole is talking about. I don’t think he knows what he is talking about.

Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.

by DIRE WOLF on Nov 6, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I wondered about Cujo earlier when you reported he was not on the injury list.

If he’s on the 45, who do you think isn’t? Just curious.

"We'll see." --Bill Parcells

by Uncle Angus on Nov 6, 2009 4:12 PM CST reply actions  

Steve Octavien and Jason Williams look to be the odd guys out.

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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 6, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Curtis Johnson will surprise everyone

I checked out his history after we picked him up and he is very athletic and talented. He’ll do well as a situational passrusher I think.

by quincyyyyy on Nov 6, 2009 4:38 PM CST reply actions  

Who do we sit for him.

Jason Williams or one of the 2 rookie OLBs. Though their reps are limited I still like the fact those guys are getting PT.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Nov 6, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Me too

When the team’s winning, I’d always rather the rookies get a run. Especially on defense, where it’s so much more reactionary.

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by accidental innuendo on Nov 6, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

And since he's been with the team for a while, he ought to be able to contribute.

He’s just got to get through pregame warm-ups.

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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 6, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd be willing to bet that the Ravens

Have more free agent/ trade aquisitions on their team than we do…every single starter on our offense with the exception of the line and RW has played in dallas their entire career. Either through the draft and through rookie free agents. The defense is pretty much the same way except the safties, brooking, and igor

Michael Irvin to Keyshawn Johnson "I know where me and Rice belong on the top ten receivers of all time list, but who do you have in the bottom 8?"

by markdamack on Nov 6, 2009 5:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I dont know. Ozzie does a dam good job with the draft.

Of course that has nothing to do with Harbaugh.
I just remember though Ozzie is no better at picking WRs than us and has been in almost every sweepstakes involving a big name WR. Problem is none want to play in a D oriented system with no QB. Ma7be he gets lucky with Flacco on board.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Nov 6, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree ozzie is smart

Like the kid up there said harbaugh was a rookie coach that took a team from 5-11 to the championship. He inherited a great defense and ozzie shored up the qb position, aong others, in the draft. Harbaugh lost a lot of cool points for that…if he was spot on i could see.

Michael Irvin to Keyshawn Johnson "I know where me and Rice belong on the top ten receivers of all time list, but who do you have in the bottom 8?"

by markdamack on Nov 6, 2009 5:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Basically he's trying to call out

Dallas for doing what ALL teams try to do – assemble great talent. His vaunted Eagles were more than happy to bring in known carcinogen Owens. Dallas’ talent was largely drafted – Irvin, Aikman, Smith, Woodson, Allen, on and on and on. So is drafting well an issue for Johnny Basic?

Is the contention that the Eagles intentionally bring in inferior talent? Lord don’t tell their fans. There’d be a riot in the cheese-steak city. Or is it that Dallas doesn’t coach it’s players? Really? Jimmy Johnson couldn’t coach?

The point is thin and on top of that, uinsulting and smacks of envy…

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by dunkman on Nov 6, 2009 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Harbaugh is right!

Unless we all walk through life with our heads up our butts, the Dallas Cowboys haven’t been so good the last 10 years. They have never pulled together like our Playmaker pulled the guys in the 90s togaether.

I would say that, things changed when Parcells came in … but crashed down with T.O.’s finger pointing last year.

Which is why this year can be so special .. They got a players like Brooking that understands what a “team” is. He makes everyone around him better. Romo has not only committed himself to winning, but he says all the right things, like he has the tunnell vision you need sometimes. The secondary is playing together and feeding off each other. They are in “wars” and playing for one another. You see it!

That is why it is all the more frustrating .. Roy Williams throws his TEAMMATE under the bus this week. … We got this thing going in the right direction .. Romo is playing SMART football. The defense is getting better each week. Special teams has been just that, special. .. And all week the BIG story is?? … All the players have to answer questions about?? … Roy Williams’ commments. ………….. That is a shame

by spadesking131313 on Nov 6, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

How does any of this

make Harbaugh right? With the exception of Owens – whom Harbaugh’s hero also brought in to Philly – who has Dallas brought in that wasn’t a team player? You’re making completely different points.

Williams is frustrated and the media is picking at that wound to get copy. It’s only a big deal if they let it be, and I don’t think they’ll let it be.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Nov 6, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

You are thinkin in reverse

Since players like Haley and Irvin left Dallas, who have the leaders been? .. Look at Philly .. although I love to hate the guys .. Brian Dawkins was/is everything a football player should be. Trotter .. McNabb. Who have we had leading like that in the last 10 years? Dawkins, Trotter, McNabb get the respect because they put in their dues at practice. These players lead by example.

Harbaugh is pointing out that Philly built a “WE” atmosphere. Something Dallas lacked.

There are signs of a “WE” attitude being built here in Dallas. You got Witten, Brookings, Sensibaugh, Newman … don’t need a ANY player reverting back to finger pointing.

by spadesking131313 on Nov 6, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really

Harbaugh was directing his diatribe against Jerry Jones, not the players. He claims that Dallas brings in stars. It’s all crap.

And there have been plenty of leaders – Dat Nygen, Darren Woodson, Quincy Carter. OK, i just put him in for humor.

And of course, I agree. THe finger pointing is just dumb and Roy needs to put his frustration into his cleats and take it out on the Philly D. But that’s not the franchise’s fault.

Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.

by dunkman on Nov 6, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Woodson was drafted by JJ, pre-1999.

Jerry screwed up with the tactic that one guy was going to “complete” the team. Its the same tactic Minnesota used when Dallas robbed them with the Walker trade. He gave up too much with Galloway, which cost the “team” for years, but also brought in the likes of Owens and Leaf. The Boys drafted players with talent, but with poor “team” attitudes .. Ross and Bryant. Guys that didn’t want to be taught nor go through the tough practices to work on mental toughness. This was a trend after Johnson left and why Dallas struggled to sport a solid team for so long.

Parcells came in and brought in steady and stable players .. guys like Ware, Columbo, Witten … who created a base for a strong TEAM.

Now they have continued the TEAM attitude with the Brooking and Sensibaugh signings.

by spadesking131313 on Nov 7, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually the "on guy" theory worked great at times

he used it (and said so) when he grabbed up haley and then Sanders.

You are making the same mistake Harbaugh does – looking at the effect and then writing your own causes. If the team wins, they were tough minded, team-first guys. If they don’t, they are puffed up superstars.Sometimes the answer is that GMs and franchises simply misjudge their own roster and make mistakes in acquiring talent. Over the hostory of the NFl, ALL teams go through these dry spells. It doesn’t mean that everyone involved is stupid or incompetent.

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by dunkman on Nov 7, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

True, the mighty Patriots(with Pioli there) missed badly on Adalius Thomas and

an OLB from the Bears(his name just jumped out of my head and I cant remember) several years ago.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

No that is where you are wrong

Every player has a trade price. Dallas soarly overvalued how much Galloway would help, compared to where they were as a team and how much missing those draft picks would hurt. The theory to OVERPAY for one guy because he “completes” the team is off and hurt the team long term.

I gave you guys that Dallas aquired who were malcontents but “talented” .. You fail to mention any players that were aquired that were “team leaders”, “roll players” or anything of the sort. .. I also gave you examples of poor decisions the Cowboys made with draft choices .. You fail to mention good young “building block”-type players they aquired. .. I gave you examples were Dallas overvalued one player at the cost of the team … You gave no examples were they “got a steal” via free agency or through the draft.

This notion that Dallas does everything right is asinine. They were a struggling franchise for a good 10 years. Accept it. .. They overvalued the star name and it has bit them in the ass plenty over the pass 10 years. Accept it.

I have and now I am glad that they have a staff in place that does a good job at evaluating talent and tries to build a brotherhood in the locker room.

by spadesking131313 on Nov 7, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

How can anyone factor in a torn ACL before it happens.

Who knows what happens if he doesnt tear it. The fact that until this year he was still producing at a high level(6more years) tells me the only problem with that move was the injury. Surely you can do better than that.

Nobody but nobody on here thinks we do more than 60% things right and that is a big time homer. I have been on here for years and we all kinda agree we were lost until BP draft wise. All he did was overhaul the draft room and taught JJ alot more.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Leaders: Zach Thomas, Keith Brooking, Role players: Bigg Davis, Marc Colombo

Building block – Ware, Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, Choice, Jones. Need any more?

I am not sure who you are addressing “This notion that Dallas does everything right” to. I have never said that because I’ve never believed it. I think they really turned around their player evaluation process during the Parcells era and are still benefitting from it.

I am beginning to think you were just looking to fight the first guy who walked into the bar.

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by dunkman on Nov 7, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I said Harbaugh was right ...

until Parcells took over. Every last player you mention was post Parcells.

by spadesking131313 on Nov 7, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Then we are not a star system. We know we lack direction before him.

Galloway doesnt cut it for me. He was injured so its hard to say how he would turn out. The fact he played at a high level for 6 more years works against your view.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

When you give up the future for one player ..

you can call it what you want.

Plus, besides Galloway, the Cowboys aquired a number of athletes during that time that had no commitment to the team. .. I have named the players I am talking about .. there weren’t a lot of players that Dallas aquired that were “leaders” in the locker room, including Galloway. The “team” was marred with selfish misguided athletes .. gotta say that this is what Harbaugh was talking about. By “star system” I take a team looking for the stop-gap instead of building a foundation and adding to it.

by spadesking131313 on Nov 7, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

At the time of the deal we were trying to win one more SB before Aiman retired.

We were rebuilding after Aikman retired. Aikman doesnt pick up that concussion from Wash LB(cant remember his name) and Galloway doesnt tear up his knee then who knows.
When you have a top notch QB you have to take chances. They just dont come around fast enough. Please dont tell me you draft one. You go with the one in hand not the crap shoot in the draft.
Our stop gaps had to with misses in the draft. When you miss you have to go FA. EX, our Oline.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

The Roy thing in a nut shell:

The Cowboys organization felt that they needed that type of WR, so they went and got a big possession-type player. This deal pales in comparison to the Galloway deal because Dallas needed the picks then to rebuild when they gave those selections to Seattle, and they gave better picks to the Hawks. Because of the draft order, Dallas’ selections became even higher when Dallas flopped the next couple of years, so it hurt that much more.

Williams, though, can still give the Boys the production the team wanted. Its been others, like fans, and media, and possibly Roy himself, placing these super high expectations on him because of the price Dallas paid for him. This part is unfair! He isn’t the T.O.-type, and has never even come close to that type of production, so expecting that isn’t fair to him .. but he is a piece of Garrett’s structured offense. .. He can be productive playing his roll (i.e. blocking well, moving chains, and creating red xzone mis-matches with his size). Holding him up to the standard of the price Dallas paid for him is rediculous. And sure they gave up too much for this type of player, but it doesn’t paralyze the team like the Galloway trade did. First off, the organization is better than it was when they made the Galloway trade. The team and organization can overcome one poor deal because they have made plenty of good decisions before and after that trade. Doesn’t signing Romo, Brooking, Sensebaugh etc. etc. and drafting Ratliff and Austin in the 7th rounds etc etc. and drafting Ware and Spencer etc. make up for this one semi-bad trade? I think it does! A team is weighed by the entire product. … a player is weighed by his product. And to me Roy needs to ask himself …

Am I ok if I catch 3-4 passes a game and do a good job blocking .. as long as the team wins? … If he is, then he need not explain his “lack of production” to anyone.

by spadesking131313 on Nov 7, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Go back and look at the 1st rounds of the 2000 and 2001 NFL Drafts.

Where the Cowboys were picking in the 2000 draft, the best player and only real impact player that got took was actually the player Seattle ended up taking; Shaun Alexander. I don’t think Jerry was going to pick a running back.

In the 2001 1st round, there were guys like Deuce McAllister and Michael Bennett. Again was Jerry going to spend a 1st on a guy who would be backing up Emmitt for another 2-3 years? Also, there was Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne but this was well into the era of Jerry having a bug up his ass about drafting receivers high.

On general principle, giving up two 1’s for Galloway was a real boner but I don’t think there was even a solid player to be had in the 1st rounds of those particular drafts and even if there was, I bet Jerry couldn’t have found them.

by MadMick on Nov 7, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Pacman and Tank were not team players

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by Seanrude on Nov 6, 2009 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

True but they had potential,

and truth be told we got them for a song and a dance. Those were shrewd moves that cost us nothing and a possible high upside. We have had a couple of reclamation projects that have paid off. Tose are 2 that didnt.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 7:44 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.

by DIRE WOLF on Nov 7, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Tank and Pacman's problems

were not in the locker room.

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by dunkman on Nov 7, 2009 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Pacman is just eatup with the dumbass. Such ashame he could of been a very good CB. He was missing one thing, a brain

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by DIRE WOLF on Nov 7, 2009 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

just win baby....play good, get lucky, smash them....

break their ribs….whatever it takes. Show me the attitude and the brains and get the job done.

by ManTab on Nov 6, 2009 5:43 PM CST reply actions  

Watchin Philly @ Dallas from last year on NFL network

I forgot how much I loved to watch Owens play when he had it goin. The man was electric. I’ve loved Miles Austin since day 1 (three years ago day 1 not 3 weeks ago) but he’s just not Owens. Watching him catch that long TD from last year has just become the highlight of the last 5 days for me. I always defended Owens and I really think he tried to be a better teammate in his last season here. Having said that, Dallas is better without him and honestly, is more dangerous. You can’t double anyone anymore, too many options. Sunday can’t come quick enough

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by Young Wiz on Nov 6, 2009 8:21 PM CST reply actions  

aaaaaaaaaaand

i just changed it. Too depressing to watch stuff from last year… plus I’m watching superbad for the 30th time in what seems like 30 days..

Anyway.. one quick thought that I’ve heard people only quickly touch on.. In the last few years, Dallas’ d has been really good in the redzone. If they are able to prevent giving up the big plays, the have the ability and precendance of holding teams to fieldgoals (as they did on a nice first drive in that Philly game I was just talking about). Dallas’ redzone effeciency has been really spotty and is just another x-factor to think about.

Anyway.. one quick thought that I’ve heard people only quickly touch on.. In the last few years, Dallas’ d has been really good in the redzone. If they are able to prevent giving up the big plays, the have the ability and precendance of holding teams to fieldgoals (as they did on a nice first drive in that Philly game I was just talking about). Dallas’ redzone effeciency has been really spotty and is just another x-factor to think about.ok we’ve exhausted every possible x-factor in this game, have we not?

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by Young Wiz on Nov 6, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

hmmm

nice double post computer. thank you for that.

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by Young Wiz on Nov 6, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I have been thinking the same thing.

Not giving up the big play will be a key for us. The closer to the goaline the less effective Desean becomes. Its hard to get behind a CB when you have 30 yards are less of field. We can tighten up our run D and force 3 pointers.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 7:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Austin had some pretty ridiculous catch and runs the past few weeks

I totally disagree. Austin has the potential to be better than Owens, and has lived up to that potential the past few games.

by quincyyyyy on Nov 6, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

If "better than Owens" means

more championships, then he can possibly be better. If it means matching or exceeding Owens’ stats/production, he has no shot. Austin would have to average like 1500 yards a season over the next ten years. I just can’t see that with this team.

by jevans1729 on Nov 7, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Asante or Sheldon can cover Miles Austin one on one. Hell, Joselio Hanson can do a decent job by himself. Eagles SHOULD but probably won’t focus on covering Witten since they never seem to cover TEs. Anyway, Eagles have the personnel to cover your WRs. You guys can pick your poison, but someone will be open for the Eagles.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 6, 2009 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

Smoki'n MM again aren't you.

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by CowboyMan on Nov 7, 2009 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Brilliant analysis

“Our corners can cover your receivers! WE WIN! YAYS!”

We have a running game, defense, and special teams unit that are all pretty good too…

Cowboys win 114-10.

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by the red scare on Nov 7, 2009 3:46 AM CST up reply actions  

All I said was someone will be open. However, I do think the Eagles win.

1) We’re in Philly.
2) We only give up 3.7 yards per carry. You can and will run, but not as much as you’re used to.
3) Our defense has been outstanding. Leading the league in turnovers and we get tons of sacks and stops for losses.
4) Our special teams has been playing very well, too.
5) Yeah, I don’t think you can cover Jackson AND Maclin AND Celek and Westbrook or McCoy and Leonard Weaver.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

NO ONE can cover those guys

That’s why you are 7-0. Goodell is at this very moment conferring with the competition committee on whether to even play out the rest of this season or just hand the trophy over to Philly.

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by dunkman on Nov 7, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

"someone will be open"

that’s going out on a limb ….. that’s like saying. “Philly will get at least 1 first down!”

Now, since I am bored at work, let me try and counter your points

1) Yes, you’re in Philly, and I think that’s a huge edge in this game
2) Yes, 3.7 is a good number, but the Eagles give up 103 yds a game, Dallas 105 yds a game. Not much of a difference.
3) Philly D is always good (RIP Coach Jim) and the numbers don’t look like Dallas’ D is any good, but the last month or so, they’ve been great as well.
4) Special teams is a wash, both are good
5) You guys do have some speedy weapons. But I don’t think with all your injuries, there’s anyone on that O Line that can stop DWare or Ratliff. Throw some James, Brooking, and Spencer in there … and it’s on.

I hope this game is like the first game last year, cause it was entertaining as hell. I’m going in thinking Dallas will lose a close one. This won’t be a 44-6 type game again, I believe.

Now, that wasted a good 10 minutes of my time …. now I gotta find something else to do.

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, the Eagles give up 103 yards a game and the Cowboys give up 105 a game but that only means your opponents haven’t made as many rushing attempts…

Jason Peters and Winston Justice seemed to do just fine against Osi and Tuck. I know D Ware is a little better, but not head and shoulders above those two.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

we gave up 97 yards rushing on 26 carries for a 3.7 ypc to the Giants and you guys gave up 141 yards rushing on 32 carries for a 4.4 yards per carry average.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, you wanna compare the games where we played the Giants? Haha.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Just compareing your superior run defense

to ours against a team known to be a great rushing team that we both played. I think your rush D is good.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Cowboys: Eli Manning – 25/38 330 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs.
Eagles: Eli Manning – 20/39 222 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs.

Cowboys sacks: 0
Eagles sacks: 2

Cowboys: 0-1
Eagles: 1-0

We didn’t care about allowing yards on the ground because we had the lead the whole game. We played pass defense almost exclusively from the second quarter on.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Because they quit running.

Do you want me to bring up your losses to.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

IYep

you sure got us!

But let’s wait til Thanksgiving … so we can compare games against the Raiders …. that should work in your fav …… oh wait ….

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

lol we could beat you tomorrow and your comeback would be “Yeah but you lost to the Raiders!”

jackass

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Nah

our comeback would be, Cowboys lead the division, enjoy 2nd place.

Suck it.

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

if we won

that is.

If we lose, then yes it will be, cause it’s pathetic to lose to them.

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

That's like one of those scores from Madden '93....

Where Emmitt could have multiple 99-yard TD runs and rush for 1,300 yards in a single game.

by MadMick on Nov 7, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

true

but they also love to take chances, and if they don’t tackle right …. Austin will break one for about 70 yards ….. trust.

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Let me get this straight

I have been listening to y’alls B.S. and tell me if I got this right. Your
QB, OL, DL, DBs, Coaches,Front office, Draft Team, Owner, WRs, Passing game, Running game, pass rush, coverage schemes, announcers, fans, pass defense, and run defense are all better than ours. Yet we are 3 and 3 the last 3 years and you have 1 more SB appearance than us the last 14 years.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, they must be superior because Buddy Ryan once coached there.

And you know how he pwn3d us after those 20 straight playoff seasons under Landry.

Oh, wait, they only want to count the last 10 years?

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by Uncle Angus on Nov 7, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

We’re a better team today. That’s all we’re talking about. We’re not comparing Super Bowl wins hurka dur.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Take your homer goggles off.

We are about as evenly matched as they come.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I don’t think we are evenly matched. Our defense is outstanding and yours is mediocre, against very mediocre offenses no less. Both of our teams are playing well on offense, though. All I’m saying is don’t be surprised if #5 is doing this tomorrow:

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

He will when we knock the sense out of him again.

Thats embarrassing dude, you should hide that not show it.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

That is embarrassing he looks like an idiot

11 SUPER BOWL TROPHIES HAVE BEEN WON BY NFC EAST TEAMS AND HOW MANY HAVE THE EAGLES WON

by DIRE WOLF on Nov 7, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

your outstanding

defense got beat by the Raiders …. and our D has been playing great lately …. so calm it down a little. They’re pretty even.

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's not forget to

mention the 48 points dropped on them by New Orleans.

by jevans1729 on Nov 7, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

What is number 72 doing,

telling him he looks retarded on national TV. I think he making him stop.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Big deal. This is a man.

I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles...
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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 7, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

and

they still can’t cover tight ends!

ooooh.

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

That's quite a fancy little manly dance there.

McNabb may play quarterback but I’m sure he’s quite the eligible receiver in other aspects of his life. Even Westbrook is rolling his eyes at this foolishness. Notice the look he shoot Andrews’ way.

by MadMick on Nov 7, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL!!!

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

There's a winner in town.

He didn’t say what town. His son is the same type of asshole,apple don’t fall from the tree do it.

Tom Landry=the greatest football mind ever.

by DIRE WOLF on Nov 7, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

exactly

and McNabb’s dog is better than Romo’s too.

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

but not better than's Vick's

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by BishopWest on Nov 7, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Vick can't have a dog anymore :>)

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by DIRE WOLF on Nov 7, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I would say McNabb is better overall just because of how well he protects the ball. Romo puts up more TDs and yards but turns the ball over a lot more. I’d rather have more modest passing figures and someone who protects the ball than the other way around. I’m sure some would disagree.

Our O-line… yeah, it’s better. Your o-line is old and suffers from it. You get a ton of false starts from your tackles, and the pass protection sometimes leaves something to be desired. Your run blocking is great. However, we’ve got ridiculous depth (as shown by the fact that we’ve played fine most of this season without 2 starters) and our line will be intact for years to come.

Our d-lines? About the same, honestly.

Our DBs are better, yeah. Sheldon Brown is LOCKDOWN and Asante gives up a big play occasionally but gets a ton of INTs. Mikell is super-underrated. Our other safety spot is very iffy, but both of your safeties are iffy haha.

Coaches and front office? Hahahahahaha. Don’t make me compare them.

Your owner is better at making money? But I don’t care how much my team makes. I’d rather have an owner that hires people that know what they’re doing like Jeff Lurie than a guy who thinks he knows what he’s doing by controlling the whole shebang.

Wide receivers? Yes, our WRs are better. Roy E. Williams is a freaking joke and so is anyone that defends the trade that landed him in Dallas or the ridiculous contract you gave him. DeSean Jackson is better than Miles Austin. Maclin is better than Williams. Avant is as good, if not better than Crayton. There’s your WR comparison.

You guys have a superior running attack, that’s for sure. But we have a much better run and pass defense.

Run defense? We give up 3.7 yards per carry. You give up 4.2. Any questions?

Pass defense isn’t even close. You: 6.9 yards per attempt, 4 ints, 17 sacks. Us: 6.2 yards per attempt, 14 ints, 23 sacks.

So, yeah, I will be a man and apologize for using “stats” and “facts” and not “Super Bowl victories from decades ago” as criteria for which team is the better team tomorrow.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

yomjoski

Your so much better than us but yet your 5-2 like us. Have split the series the last 3 years.

Your Oline has given up 17 sacks to our 13 sacks. We have averaged 5.4 yards per rush while yours is 4.8 per rush. Which is .6 better while your run D is only .5 better than ours.

The talent of these 2 teams is about the same overall the last 3-4 years so tell me again how your front office is better at getting talent.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Roy E. Williams.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

DeSean Jackson

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Your 2009 draft.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

All your first round draft picks the last like 5 years.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

TO. Good job letting him go. I was so glad he got released. One, because we wouldn’t have to play him anymore and your offense would be worse without him, and two, because I didn’t like him and he’d have to play somewhere terrible.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

it's not worse

without him …. that’s pure ignorance.

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

He’s a better goddamned wide receiver than Roy Williams so you tell me how your team is better off with him than without him.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

tell me how your team isn’t better off with him than without him*

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

You of all people should know the anwser to that question.

Because a disruptive influence is gone. Because our QB get to spread the ball evenly. Because we are higher ranked offensely this year than last. Do you want more. You know why.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, and he’s being replaced by… a terrible receiver who is becoming a disruptive influence. I mean, at least TO delivered.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Is our offense overall better? Yes!

apparently its working.
P.S He isnt delivering anymore than RW right now and at his age probably wont. RW is young enough to put it back together again.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

This is Williams 7th year in the league, he’s not going to magically stop sucking.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

By the way, your avatar looks like a Raider.

Not a cheap shot, just an observation.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

actually

if you really wanna be technical …. his production has been replaced by Miles Austin ….

I know you’re just trying to piss us Cowboys fans off … but come on.

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

funny

he seems to be sucking as much as Roy is ….

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

As we have been trying to tell you guys for months now, he is done.

We wouldnt be better with him. Your stuck in preseason hyperboyle.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

A pissing contest, cmon man.

The overall talent od these teams are even so the front offices are even.

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by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

He’s good but your coaching staff is too dumb to use him properly so it all evens out.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

58.56% Eagles pass attempts
54.37% Cowboys pass attempts

Yeah, extremely legitimate point you have, there. < 4% is such a tremendous gigantic difference. If you’re going to argue something, at least make sure you’re CLOSE to accurate.

The point I was trying to make is that if a guy is averaging 8 yards a carry, and he’s getting <8 carries a game, your coaches aren’t utilizing that guy. I don’t think anyone would argue that the Eagles aren’t utilizing their players correctly. In fact, I think they’re squeezing a ton of production out of just about everyone.

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by yomjoseki on Nov 8, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

If the Eagles are so good ...

Why do they have the same 5-2 record?

The Eagles have scored 6 points more than Dallas and allowed 3 less. Yet the Iggles have played the cupcake part of their schedule. Take a look at the two teams uncommon opponents so far this year:

Dallas – Seattle, Atlanta, Denver (Combined 14-9)

Philly – Oakland, New Orleans, Washington (Combined 12-11)

The Boys are 2-1 against better teams. Their only loss was a close game in Denver. I think we can live with that.

You skew your argument. You go position by position on offense based on OPINION .. then throw out stats for the defenses. But lets look at the offensive statistics.

Lets start by saying … Dallas gains almost 70 yards a game more than Philly. The Boys have a better passing attack (34 yards/game) and a better running game (33 yards/game) .. and are more balanced. Lets not forget either, the Cowboys played a healthier Giants defense and Denver at the new Mile High. … In your diatribe, you never even mention Witten!! Your argument for offensive lines is only based on your own opinion, but look at the stats .. o-line is usually measured by two ..

Sacks allowed: Dallas 13 – Philly 17
Rushing yards per game: Dallas 148 – Philly 115

So viewing the history of the two teams, Philly is a high pressure defense and Dallas is a high powered offense. Both teams weaker parts have been playing well of late, which is why this game is bound to be a real good one!

Another part you missed is special teams … and I know the Boys units have been nothing but steller. So bring on your Iggles and lets get this party started!!!!

by spadesking131313 on Nov 7, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

perfect

end to my day. good job sir.

Here’s to hoping the game is a good one!

by Dub_TC on Nov 7, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Our WRs are better than your WRs. I’ve yet to see anyone, Cowboys fan or not, argue that.

Yeah, your passing stats are better, but only because of Miles Austin’s two exceptional games. We had our backup QB in for two games (one against KC, who we beat handily, and you barely beat in overtime).

Also, I’m convinced the Eagles would have more yards if they had longer fields. They begin with outstanding field position for most of their drives because of turnovers and special teams playing well. Proof of that? We’ve scored more points than you with 34 less yards a game.

So I’m not allowed to think my team will win, despite the fact that:

Our defense is better (turnovers, sacks, yards allowed,
Our WRs are better
Our QBs are evenly matched
I’ll even throw you a bone and say our O-lines are evenly matched
Your running game is better, but hasn’t faced anyone as good as our run defense yet
Your TEs are better

You have one clear advantage (tight end) that I am actually really worried about, but lo and behold, Celek has been doing better than Witten this year BUT I’LL STILL GIVE YOU WITTEN as a better player.

I think you’ll run on us, but you won’t go crazy on us and you won’t gain enough to win the game. Maybe 120 yards.

So hell yeah, I think the Eagles will win.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Nov 7, 2009 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Everything you throw out is opinion and "speculation" ..

First off, our offensive line is one of the best in the NFL based on stats and production .. both this year and last. When healthy last year, Dallas had the #1 offense .. remember week 2 last year? They now are #2 behind the Saints. As a unit, the Boys offense is balanced, so teams who play the pass well (ala Oakland Raiders) still will struggle to stop us.

Philly on the other hand, are pass happy. Playing in a cold weather city .. maybe why Philly puts up great passing stats in the season then crumble in the playoffs at home. Think thats a possiblilty.

And I don’t revert to name calling … that usually means the person’s argument is weak!

by spadesking131313 on Nov 7, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn’t call anyone names before they called me a name.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Nov 8, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

No prob but ..

I didn’t call you any name.

You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

You argue that because your offense “has scored more points”, but then argue your “defensive stats” are better despite both teams giving up vertually the same amount of points. .. Bottom line – our offensive stats are superior, your defensive stats are superior … and the teams’ total points scored versus total points allowed is different by 9 points in the Iggles favor, which isn’t a lot, especially when you consider the two teams’ uncommon opponents.

by spadesking131313 on Nov 8, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

OK, you’re right actually.

I did call you a dumbass because you called me out for not responding to a post within 90 minutes.

I just thought it was extremely funny that you thought I was scared to answer or whatever because that had to be the only explanation if I didn’t immediately post a response.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Nov 8, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Our passing numbers say they our WRs are better. I believe they are without numbers.

Bone, your not throwing us nothing. We run more with more ypc. More yard rushed per game. We have given up less sacks and we have produced more yards passing and total.

You keep trying to claim your players are better but facts keep getting in the way.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess false starts don’t count for anything, plus the fact that McNabb holding onto the ball and trying to run with it accounts for half his sacks. He’s historically been sacked a lot because of this.

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Nov 8, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, and the Eagles have scored more points with less offensive plays and less yards per play… we must be inferior!

I am the people's troll :3™

by yomjoseki on Nov 8, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't like the idea of trying to rough Jackson up at the line

I do think he’s tiny enough to get destroyed by our DBs, but the chance that he can burn a DB at the line makes the prospect of trying to jam him seem a little less tempting.

Just put T New on him. He’s shut down burners like Steve Smith and Santana Moss in the past. Jackson’s good, but I wouldn’t over estimate him just because he’s fast and has a few big plays under his belt. I honestly believe he’s up to the task. The Eagles have too many weapons to focus too much on just one guy.

Epic Fail since 1985

by the red scare on Nov 7, 2009 3:55 AM CST reply actions  

+1 I dont think we can get our hands on him with his quickness.

At least not consistently. We can still be physical with him and hit him all over the field until the whistle blows.

KICK ASS every day!!!

by squidlo97 on Nov 7, 2009 7:53 AM CST up reply actions  

how early do we see Felix?

Let the guy with 9 lives get some early touches.

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by Wmillion on Nov 7, 2009 6:36 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I say opening kickoff and then third series in on offense.

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by Aaron Novinger on Nov 7, 2009 7:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I know this is an old one... but still one of my favorites.....

What do you call a Philadelphia Eagle with a Superbowl ring?

A thief.

by Road Warrior on Nov 7, 2009 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

CHECK OUT THEIR WRITERS

this is the philly blog preview. only hate about our organization with weak facts. please go and support dallas fans there.

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/11/7/1120153/tighten-your-holsters-eagles-vs#add-comment

by FireWadeNow on Nov 7, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

This game wil be decided by the kicking game. I say the cowboys win by virtue of

field position and return yards. Beuler will keep the Eagles kick off return average to less than twenty yards. McBriar, although he will not be needed much if the Romo is clicking, wll pin them deep, and kick us out off trouble when the offense stalls on the Eagles end. Crayton, Jones, Austin will out distance the Eagles returners. This week, as the teams are otherwise pretty even, it’s all about the kicking game. Cowboys 35, Eagles 21

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by CowboyMan on Nov 7, 2009 8:01 PM CST reply actions  

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